Gaining strength while cutting fat log

Day 12

Day 12

Back

Deadlifts
405lbs x 5 reps
455lbs x 4 reps

T-Rows
270lbs x 8 reps
315lbs x 6 reps

Free Weight Loaded Hammer Strength, undergrip rows
135lbs per side x 8 reps each arm
160lbs per side x 6 reps each arm
180lbs per side x 5 reps each arm

Free Weight Loaded Hammer Strength, neutral grip rows
270lbs per side x 8 reps each arm
270lbs per side x 7 reps each arm
270lbs per side x 5 reps each arm

Machine, Lat Pull Down
290lbs x 8 reps
300lbs x 6 reps
320lbs x 6 reps

Cable Rows
260lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 6 reps
280lbs x 5 reps


20 min intervals of Stair-climber on level 6, 7, 8
 
VolcomX311 said:
Day 12

Back

Deadlifts
405lbs x 5 reps
455lbs x 4 reps

T-Rows
270lbs x 8 reps
315lbs x 6 reps

Free Weight Loaded Hammer Strength, undergrip rows
135lbs per side x 8 reps each arm
160lbs per side x 6 reps each arm
180lbs per side x 5 reps each arm

Free Weight Loaded Hammer Strength, neutral grip rows
270lbs per side x 8 reps each arm
270lbs per side x 7 reps each arm
270lbs per side x 5 reps each arm

Machine, Lat Pull Down
290lbs x 8 reps
300lbs x 6 reps
320lbs x 6 reps

Cable Rows
260lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 6 reps
280lbs x 5 reps


20 min intervals of Stair-climber on level 6, 7, 8
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Keep up the hard work. Don't be afraid to reduce your volume on days that you feel really drained. One of the most important elements to accomplishing your goal is listening to your body and refeeds on days when you need it.
 
Rodja said:
Keep up the hard work. Don't be afraid to reduce your volume on days that you feel really drained. One of the most important elements to accomplishing your goal is listening to your body and refeeds on days when you need it.
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I agree. Today I had to cut my Deads and T-Rows short. By the second set of both of those exercises I felt my body discouraging me from continuing on, so I hit the hammers. Something I could perform upright and without the apparent, unwanted stress to my lower back (and right knee), especially the right knee.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I agree. Today I had to cut my Deads and T-Rows short. By the second set of both of those exercises I felt my body discouraging me from continuing on, so I hit the hammers. Something I could perform upright and without the apparent, unwanted stress to my lower back (and right knee), especially the right knee.
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Pay attention to your lower back. It will have less time and material to repair itself and you don't want to get an overuse injury. You may even want to work up to only one working sets on deads/squats.
 
Rodja said:
Pay attention to your lower back. It will have less time and material to repair itself and you don't want to get an overuse injury. You may even want to work up to only one working sets on deads/squats.
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I actually used to do that. 3 progressive warm ups and 1 ballz out working set. I suppose for the purpose of strength, it's not a bad idea to do that on occassion again.
 
Day 13

Day 13 Morning Cardio

HIIT

50 yard back peddles right into 50 yard forward sprint, walk to the other side and immediately start again. x 10 times

50 yard sprint, walk to the starting point and immediately start again. x 5 times.
 
yeah, can catch decent ones on ebay as low as $25-30 sometimes. I got one of the $100 rebok ones for $25.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Straps, my gym doesn't look too kindly on chalk.

If I were able to hold and pull 465lbs for multiple reps with my raw grip, I'd go find Popeye and slap him.

I "hear" single reps are plausible to hold heavy, heavy loads with a raw grip, but I've never tried it. However, I am a huge advocate of forearm (flexors, extensors and brachioradialus) development and strength, so they are up to par, but I've never tried Dead Lifting without straps before.
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Bro I pull 475 for 10 reps RAW grip, and my forearms are nothing to write home about. I wish they were but truth is they are not :-( I even started training with the Captains of crush grippers. Have any forearm training tips for me?
 
Figured I'd check in!

Great log you got going here man. Glad to hear I could help you with the heads up on guggulsterones...your definitely better off without the guggulbolic. Anyway, keep up the great work and detail man. I'll be checking in again sometime soon. Till then keep kickin ass in the gym! Nuff said!

-Sean-
 
BigCasino said:
Bro I pull 475 for 10 reps RAW grip, and my forearms are nothing to write home about. I wish they were but truth is they are not :-( I even started training with the Captains of crush grippers. Have any forearm training tips for me?
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You could single hand choke a buffalo with that grip
 
SamBoz19 said:
Great log you got going here man. Glad to hear I could help you with the heads up on guggulsterones...your definitely better off without the guggulbolic. Anyway, keep up the great work and detail man. I'll be checking in again sometime soon. Till then keep kickin ass in the gym! Nuff said!

-Sean-
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Thanks, I appreciated the detailed info and the heads up. That's why AM's the best.

Day 14: REST No cardio, no lifting.
 
Day 15

Day 15

Intervals on the Stair-Stepper for 25 min at level 8, 7, 6, 5

I was dead today, probably from the time change. I was planning on a 40 min session and I gassed out BJ Penn style at 25 min.
 
Day 16 Split Workout Day

I hit Big Bad Back in the morning prior to work and I'll be hitting chest tonight after work.

Day 16 A.M. Workout: BIG BAD BACK

Bent Over Barbell Rows
405lbs x 6 reps, x6 reps, x6 reps (I forgot how heavy these were or I would have started at 385lbs and pyramided up)

Smith, One Arm Barbell Rows (I improvised this exercise up due to the lack of Db's that go above 120lbs at my gym)
185lbs x 8 reps
225lbs x 6 reps
245lbs x 5 reps

Lame attempt at Rack Deads. I felt my lower left side straining, so I stopped at 225lbs (warm up set) and went on to something else.

Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
405lbs x 6 reps

Smith, Behind the Neck Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
385lbs x 6 reps

I'm normally a bit more extensive with my back workouts, but my workout partner has two BJJ tournaments coming up this month so he wanted to stay away from any heavy low back exercises because he's very susceptible to lower back strains, therefore, I decided to do the meat and potatoes stuff without him and I'll have to meet up for back again on Friday, so I didn't over extend myself.

Tonight I'll be hitting up Big Chest
 
Day 16 PM workout

Day 16 PM. I hit Back this morning and I hit Chest tonight.

I started off with 30 min intervals on Stair-Stepper on intensity 5 & 6.


CHEST

Flat Bench
275lbs x 8 reps
295lbs x 4 reps
315lbs x 5 reps (yelling & screaming. Personal Best!)

Flat Db Press
110lbs Db's x 8 reps
115lbs Db's x 6 reps
120lbs Db's x 5 reps

Decline Bench
185lbs x 8 reps
205lbs x 7 reps
225lbs x 6 reps

Incline Hammer Press
140lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 6 reps
320lbs x 4 reps

Cable Flies
100lbs x 8 reps
120lbs x 6 reps
140lbs x 5 reps

Incline Machine Press
305lbs x 8 reps
310lbs x 6 reps
315lbs x 5 reps

I almost did cardio following my workout, but I didn't want to over-do it. I hit a personal best on the flat, it really shocked the hell out of me when I did it.
 
Comparson Day 9 vs Day 16

Day 9@225lbs

Flat Bench
275lbs x 8 reps
295lbs x 6 reps
315lbs x 3 reps

Day 16@225lbs (still)
275lbs x 8 reps
295lbs x 4 reps
315lbs x 5 reps

I lost two reps at 295lbs, but I gained 2 reps at 315lbs. That's a bit strange, but ultimately, it's a strength gain.

My own personal opinion on my loss of reps is that whenever I underestimate the intensity of the weight, my performance always decreases, and I tend to underestimate my 2nd sets in general, but if I over-estimate the intensity of the weight and really psych myself up to the point of borderline convulsions, a switch turns on and my performance will often extend beyond my expectations.
 
Day 17 & 18

Day 17 Rest

Day 18
Intervals on Stair-Stepper for 25 min. I planned on doing 40 min, but the other day's split workout ripped a new hole in me and didn't leave money on the light stand. Hopefully I'll be feeling 100% by tomorrow, I'd even settle for 80%.

My sleep has been horrible for the past three days, I'm sure that has something to do with my overwhelming fatigue.
 
Day 19 AM workout

Day 19 AM. Morning Workout (planning on a PM workout)

I was 223lbs this morning. Total loss of 7lbs so far and my strength is slightly increasing week by week as my weight is taking its damn time to decrease week by week.

SHOULDERS

Smith, Military Press
135lbs x 10 reps
155lbs x 8 reps
175lbs x 6 reps
195lbs x 5 reps

Hammer Strength Shoulder Press
230lbs x 6 reps, x 6 reps, x 5 reps

Db lateral raises
40lbs Db's x 8 reps
45lbs Db's x 6 reps
50lbs Db's x 5 reps

Barbell Upright Rows
95lbs x 8 reps
115lbs x 6 reps
115lbs x 5 reps

Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
405lbs x 6 reps

Free Weight Loaded, Shrugs Machine
180lbs x 8 reps
270lbs x 8 reps
360lbs x 8 reps

I could have kept on going higher with my last shrug exercise, but I'm prone to have upper/mid trapezium strain and I felt it coming on, so I made the decision to call it a day.

I'm at school right now, after school I have work and hopefully after work I'll be back in the gym for a night workout. I may lift or I may just do cardio, either way, I'm getting rid of some kcals.
 
Day 19 PM

Day 19 PM Workout

Bi's


EZ Bar Curl (outside grip)
90lbs x 8 reps
100lbs x 6 reps
110lbs x 5 reps

Concentrated Curls
50lbs Db's x 8 reps
50lbs Db's x 6 reps
55lbs Db's x 5 reps

Free Weight Loaded Preacher Curls (inside grip)
70lbs x 8 reps
80lbs x 7 reps
90lbs x 6 reps

Machine, Alternating High Curls
80lbs x 8 reps each arm
90lbs x 6 reps each arm
100lbs x 5 reps each arm

Machine Preacher Curls (supinated grip)
80lbs x 8 reps
90lbs x 5 reps
90lbs x 7 reps

Cable Curls
100lbs x 8 reps
120lbs x 6 reps
120lbs x 5 reps

Feeling good, feeling strong.
 
Holy F*ck...its Hercules!

VolcomX311 said:
I hit Big Bad Back in the morning prior to work and I'll be hitting chest tonight after work.

Day 16 A.M. Workout: BIG BAD BACK

Bent Over Barbell Rows
405lbs x 6 reps, x6 reps, x6 reps (I forgot how heavy these were or I would have started at 385lbs and pyramided up)

Smith, One Arm Barbell Rows (I improvised this exercise up due to the lack of Db's that go above 120lbs at my gym)
185lbs x 8 reps
225lbs x 6 reps
245lbs x 5 reps

Lame attempt at Rack Deads. I felt my lower left side straining, so I stopped at 225lbs (warm up set) and went on to something else.

Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
405lbs x 6 reps

Smith, Behind the Neck Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
385lbs x 6 reps

I'm normally a bit more extensive with my back workouts, but my workout partner has two BJJ tournaments coming up this month so he wanted to stay away from any heavy low back exercises because he's very susceptible to lower back strains, therefore, I decided to do the meat and potatoes stuff without him and I'll have to meet up for back again on Friday, so I didn't over extend myself.

Tonight I'll be hitting up Big Chest
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Holy sh*t those are some damn impressive numbers...its obvious which part of your body is the strongest. I can't get over the 405 for 3 sets of 6 on barbell rows...man that is some hardcore powerlifting. I'm beyond impressed bud...way to kick some ass!!!
 
SamBoz19 said:
Holy sh*t those are some damn impressive numbers...its obvious which part of your body is the strongest. I can't get over the 405 for 3 sets of 6 on barbell rows...man that is some hardcore powerlifting. I'm beyond impressed bud...way to kick some ass!!!
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Thanks, I'm hoping to improve my strength while losing the adipose, so far it's working out really well.
 
Day 21 HIIT Death

Day 19 Rest
Dat 20 Unplanned Rest. I had to do a muscle performance lab write up which consumed my day into the night.

Day 21: Punishment

HIIT

1. 50 yard back peddle, directly into 50 yard sprint, immediately walk back to the oppoiste side, straight into the next back peddle 50/sprint 50. 10 TIMES

Immediately after 10th Repetition;

2. 50 yard full sprint. Count 10 seconds, another 50 yard sprint. 10 TIMES

Clearly by the 5th-6th Sprint in a row they were no longer full sprint speed, but still full sprint effort with what was left in my depleted and fatigued legs. It felt like I was moving in slow motion, but my legs were numbed, thats what we performance coaches like to call, LACTATE THRESHOLD. Mine was well exceeded. The 10 second rest in between sprints wasn't suffice, but it's a method I use to maintain an increased heart rate.

Eventually my 50 yard distances will become 100 yard distances, but then I would only perform 10 reps of one or the other, not both, but my rest time will still be 10 seconds.

I just finished and my lungs still burn and I'm still coughing :whiner:

It's worth it!!
 
Day 21 afternoon

Day 21 Incline Chest

I like to emphasize incline or decline lifts on occassions.

Incline Db Press
100lbs Db's x 8 reps
105lbs Db's x 7 reps
110lbs Db's x 5 reps

Smith, Incline Press
225lbs x 8 reps
245lbs x 7 reps
255lbs x 4 reps

Incline Machine Press
80lbs x 8 reps
90lbs x 6 reps
100lbs x 5 reps

Incline Fly Machine
200lbs x 8 reps
205lbs x 7 reps
210lbs x 6 reps

HIIT in the morning and LIFTING in the afternoon, that's my idea of a good day.
 
jbono731 said:
Thats a great cardio session Volcom! Good job!:clap2:
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Thanks! I've been doing static cardio all this week so this was a nice change in pace. I prefer HIIT, but I don't have the morning time or after school/work day light to do them.

I like mixing things up to avoid monotony. I have cones in my trunk that I set up sometimes to run routes, speed & agility exercises, like the T-Test, I'll use plyometrics in my HIIT sometimes, or Track & Field, Soccer exercises. Whatever I can do to maintain an elevated heart rate and create a caloric genocide, while avoiding "going through the motions," which static cardio is so susceptible to.
 
Day 22

Day 22

Bi's; Emphasis on brachioradialus & extensor(s)

Alternating Db Hammer Curls
65lbs x 8 reps
70lbs x 8 reps
75lbs x 6 reps

Concentrated Db Hammer Curls
50lbs x 8 reps
55lbs x 6 reps
60lbs x 5 reps

French Curl Bar, Reverse Curls
65lbs x 10 reps
85lbs x 8 reps
95lbs x 6 reps

Cable, One Arm Hammer Curls
50lbs x 8 reps
60lbs x 6 reps
70lbs x 5 reps

Barbell Reverse Curls
85lbs x 8 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
100lbs x 5 reps

Machine, One Arm Preacher Hammer Curls
60lbs x 8 reps
70lbs x 6 reps
70lbs x 5 reps

Db Reverse Wrist Curls
50lbs x 10 reps
55lbs x 8 reps
60lbs x 8 reps
 
Fat Down, Strength Up

This is another progression update

Day 1 weighing at 230lbs
Db Hammer Curls
60lbs x 8 reps
65lbs x 6 reps
70lbs x 5 reps

Day 5 weighing at 227lbs
Db Hammer Curls
60lbs x 10 reps
65lbs x 8 reps
70lbs x 6 reps
75lbs x 4 reps

Day 8 weighing at 225lbs
Db Hammer Curls
65lbs x 10 reps
70lbs x 8 reps
75lbs x 5 reps

Day 22 weighing at 223lbs (my current weight)
Db Hammer Curls
65lbs x 8 reps
70lbs x 8 reps
75lbs x 6 reps

I know Db hammer curl strength is a bit arbitrary, it's not like comparing bench and dead lifts, but its an exercise I start with consistently, so it's a good measure of "fresh strength."

Next time I do Db Hammers I'll probably start with 70lbs Db's and end with 80lbs Db's and see where I land as far as repetitions go.

I might do deads tomorrow morning and I'll report any strength improvements if I take the weight up to my upper limits.
 
Day 23

Not a Back Day, my official Back Day is this Friday, but I did Deads and Shrugs today. I have to take my girlfriend to the airport at 2:30am tonight, which means I'm going to bed early as hell, which means I can't workout after work, which means forget that I'll workout bright and early instead.

6:00 a.m., heavy deads :cheers: I'm usually not up until 6:30, but I was up at 5:00am this morning. Thinking about Deads got me wide eyed. That happens sometimes when I imagine what I'm going to do and how I'm going to do it. Deads is the only exercise that gives me butterflies.

Other "big guys" mad dog me when I do heavy deads, I see the hate because I think I crush their ego's. Not a lot of truly "strong" guys at my gym, plenty of big guys, but not strong relative to their size in my opinion. Enough story telling.

Deads
405lbs x 5 reps (I can hit 10 of these, but high reps aren't the focus of my strength phase).
455lbs x 5 reps
475lbs x 1 rep (MUCH heavier then I thought, I was expecting to pull 3 reps, but I could tell by how slow my ascent was that one was going to have to do).

Barbell Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
335lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
405lbs x 6 reps

Smith, Behind the Neck Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
335lbs x 7 reps
365lbs x 6 reps

Free Weight Loaded, Shrug Machine
360lbs x 8 reps
450lbs x 6 reps
450lbs x 6 reps


I know, strange workout. I really wasn't trying to hit a true back workout, I just wanted to squeeze something in due to my awkward schedule today, so I augmented my Deads with some additional Shrugs work (I love traps as you can see).
 
Weight Down, Deads about the same

I thought I'd offer a more comparable measure of strength then my hammer curls.

Day 3@230lbs
DEAD LIFTS
405lbs x 8 reps
455lbs x 5 reps
465lbs x 4 reps

Day 23@223lbs
DEAD LIFTS
405lbs x 5 reps
455lbs x 5 reps
475lbs x 1 rep

That 475lbs caught me off guard. I might not have given myself enough time to rest between the previous set or maybe 475lbs is really that much heavier then 465lbs, but I was expecting 3 reps. Either way, if you consider the repetitions vs weight used, I'd say my strength is about the same. I wanted to report a strength gain, but I think it's fair to call it even. Unless you see it differently???

I want to re-emphasis, I didn't lose any reps at 405lbs during Day 23, I chose to stop because I knew i was going to try for the 455lbs+ so I was trying to save myself. But deciding to stop at 5 reps instead of 8 could be why 455lbs seemed so much easier today, which gave me the false sense of strength to attempt 475lbs for reps (which I've never done before).
 
Great workouts man, subbed in! The stack your running is something I'm looking into for the summer once my cut is complete.
 
Great log brother.

I must say I am really impressed, I did a cut a while back and I went down from 255 to 225, but I was unable to hold onto my strength, even when traning with an emphasis on strength & lots of BCAAs I lost it. I probably lost it too quickly, Leviathan + albuterol and I was melting the fat off (prolly the muscle too).

I gotta say now we are prett
 
Day 25

Day 25

AM Workout
Morning Cardio: 20 min on Stair-Climber

PM Workout
Bi's

Short Barbell Curls
65lbs x 10 reps
85lbs x 7 reps
95lbs x 6 reps
100lbs x 5 reps

Preacher Curls
80lbs x 8 reps
90lbs x 7 reps
100lbs x 6 reps

Machine, Single Arm High Curls
80lbs x 8 reps
90lbs x 6 reps
100lbs x 5 reps

Cable, Single Arm Curls
80lbs x 8 reps
90lbs x 6 reps
100lb x 5 reps

Free Weight Loaded, Machine Preacher, Single Arm Curls
45lbs x 8 reps
55lbs x 7 reps
65lbs x 5 reps

Concentrated Db Curls
45lbs x 8 reps
45lbs x 7 reps
50lbs x 5 reps

Db Wrist Curls
50lbs Db's x 8, x8, x8 reps

Post Workout Cardio: 15 min on Stair-Stepper
 
Day 26

Day 26

AM Cardio
25 min intervals on Stair-Climber.
(I want to slowly make my way up to 40 min, 5 min at a time).


PM Workout
Back

I made the error of working my back the day after a bi's day, but that's what my workout buddies were ready for. Our schedules got mixed up this week, so this was the situation.

Furthermore, my lower back has not recovered from the heavy deads I did on Monday, so we did almost all vertical resistance exercises as to avoid any amount of stress to the lumbar.

BACK
Weighted, Close-Neutral Grip pull ups.
Body Weight x 10 reps
BW + 45lbs x 8 reps
BW + 45lbs x 6 reps
BW + 70lbs x 4 reps

Weighted, Wide-Neutral Grip pull ups.
BW x 8 reps
BW + 25lbs x 5 reps (too much weight)
BW x 6 reps

Hammer Strength, Lat Pull Downs (Bilaterally). Seated Backwards for a behind the neck emphasis
230lbs x 8 reps
280lbs x 6 reps
300lbs x 5 reps

Machine, Lat Pull Downs
270lbs x 8 reps
280lbs x 7 reps
290lbs x 6 reps

Machine Rows (Bilaterally)
270lbs x 8 reps
280lbs x 7 reps
290lbs x 6 reps

Free Weight Loaded, Machine Shrugs
225lbs x 8 reps
315lbs x 8 reps
405lbs x 7 reps

Smith, Behind the Neck Shrugs
315lbs x 8 reps
365lbs x 7 reps
405lbs x 6 reps


Vertical Resistance Exercises aren't as "hardcore" or as fun as Deads and Bent Over Rows, but they feel more direct and concentrated. I hope to get in some HIIT this weekend and that's it for now.
 
Your Opinions

I was thinking, considering this is a weight loss + strength gain log, is it arbitrary for me to list my entire workout? Would only noting my 1st workout or first three workouts be relevant? considering it's when I'm fresh and truly exhibiting fresh & maximal strength, or should I continue listing my entire workout?

Your opinion would be appreciated.

P.S. I don't mind listing my workouts, it's kind of fun, but woud you guys prefer I be concise and to the point? Or should I keep doing what I'm doing?
 
Day 27

Day 27

AM Cardio
30 min intervals on Stair-Stepper

Afternoon Lifting Split CHEST & SHOULDERS
CHEST, incline emphasis

Incline Db Press
105lbs Db's x 10 reps
115lbs Db's x 8 reps
120lbs Db's x 6 reps
120lbs Db's x 6 reps

Smith, Incline Press
225lbs x 10 reps
255lbs x 8 reps
275lbs x 6 reps

Hammer, Incline Press
270lbs x 10 reps
320lbs x 6 reps
320lbs x 6 reps

Machine, Incline Press
270lbs x 10 reps
280lbs x 8 reps
290lbs x 6 reps

SHOULDERS
Side Lateral Raises
40lbs Db's x 10 reps
45lbs Db's x 8 reps
50lbs Db's x 6 reps

Bent Over, pronated-grip reverse flys
30lbs x 8 reps
40lbs x 7 reps
40lbs x 6 reps

Laying Parallel to the floor, one arm lateral raises
30lbs x 8 reps each arm
30lbs x 7 reps each arm
30lbs x 6 reps each arm

Laying Parallel to the floor, barbell front raises
35lbs x 8 reps
45lbs x 6 reps
50lbs x 5 reps

I had taken 9 RPM's by 11:00am. 4 RPM's before morning cardio and 5 RPM's before 11:00am lifting. Now I'm waiting for the chicken to finish baking... I'm so hungry
 
VolcomX311:

Thanks again for the gugguls ! Within no more than 5 days, my skin tone has gotten better and it has cleared up my shoulders and upper arms (had a couple pimples from running ATD). I mean cleared up as in SMOOTH AND PIMPLE-FREE ! Just that is enough for me to get another bottle of it. So man, thank you !
 
btw . . HOOKED ON RPM MUCH ?!?! Holy hell ! lol ..

Just out of curiousity .. If you do cardio in the AM on a regular basis; how come you don't get a thermo/fat burner for the pre-cardio session, then crank of the volume with the RPM pre-workout ? SO you did cardio upon waking, then ate, then RPM, then worked out ?

(Curious .. I only tried 5-6 sample packets of RPM, and I couldn't imagine taking THAT before CARDIO -> it just wouldn't be the same, if ya get what I'm saying ?)
 
Norwegian said:
btw . . HOOKED ON RPM MUCH ?!?! Holy hell ! lol ..

Just out of curiousity .. If you do cardio in the AM on a regular basis; how come you don't get a thermo/fat burner for the pre-cardio session, then crank of the volume with the RPM pre-workout ? SO you did cardio upon waking, then ate, then RPM, then worked out ?

(Curious .. I only tried 5-6 sample packets of RPM, and I couldn't imagine taking THAT before CARDIO -> it just wouldn't be the same, if ya get what I'm saying ?)
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I'm waiting on USPlabs Recreate, but they're getting their jollies from playing with our emotions. Otherwise, I would do just what you said.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'm waiting on USPlabs Recreate, but they're getting their jollies from playing with our emotions. Otherwise, I would do just what you said.
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I believe your wait will be awarded ! Afterall, it IS a USPLabs product, and 9 out of 10 times, you can't go wrong there !
 
Norwegian said:
I believe your wait will be awarded ! Afterall, it IS a USPLabs product, and 9 out of 10 times, you can't go wrong there !
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That's the hope. I wished it were 90 degrees here like it is out in Texas. I'd be doing more outdoors cardio. I love running in heat and you're more then welcome for the Guggles. I actually have 3/4ths of Bulk Beta-Alanine I'm done with, I cannot STAND paraesthesia, so if you're interest in some BA, let me know.
 
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