Formex Write-up.
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nevergoodenough
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Is there a specific dosing protocol for PCT? I was planning on using reversitol for my Epistane PCT, but I'm liking the way this looks instead.
nevergoodenough
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Ahh nevermind I'm stupid. I just caught the link in natty's signature.
Iron Lungz
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Some are running it daily at 25mg while on TRT. Any reason to why you want to run it low-dosed for 2 months? Theoretically, it can be used through-out the year; however, I always recommend that you take a break from any and all supplements to cleanse yourself and to prolong the duration of effectiveness. For example, I would say run it for 60 days at 50mg (2 bottles), then take 30 days off. Or you can increase the dosage like such: first 30 days at 25mg, followed by the next 15 days at 50mg, then 15 at 75mg. Once you finish that 30 day run, (45 in total) taper down to 50mg for 5 days, then 10 days at 25mg, ending with a 30-45 day break. This is just an example, and/or the way I would personally run it.
M16
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Thats my plan...Been on TRT due to a medical condition for years so this will be a great addition...I will try to run it 8 weeks on 4 weeks off.
nattydisaster
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TRT + 25mg/day year round for me.
It is definitely a supplement you can use on cycle, PCT, and off cycle for a bridge or a non-suppressive cycle. Pretty universal I'd say!
It is definitely a supplement you can use on cycle, PCT, and off cycle for a bridge or a non-suppressive cycle. Pretty universal I'd say!
M16
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So formex is ok to run year round ? coo,l hope mine gets here next week.
nattydisaster
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hondizzle420
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my last epi pct i ran pcs, bulk atd and mass fx, would formex be a replacement for these?
nattydisaster
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Yes
BeBig
Well-known member
Also you might wanna watch out on your next cycle for gyno specially since you ran atd, one of the other guys in here ran some atd then stepped into do a log for The One and started getting a little gyno and him an all the other ppl in his log figured that the ATD caused it...But yes Formex would definitely be a good replacement...:cheers:
hondizzle420
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great, i just made the order to np, 2 bottles 1-t tren, epi, cs, formex, i got some nolva, but i cant find x dreams.
BeBig
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Looks like a good run coming up...Nolva is real good if you have any gyno flare ups...I got some epi for my next run also then gonna use formex for pct also...and some other goodies i'm sure me an my homie haven't figured exactly what all yet...:cheers:
hondizzle420
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yup, pretty excited. i got a bunch of other supporting supps i need to add, just havnt made the final decisions.
jcdenton
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So is formex safe for MPB prone people? I’m really concerned about losing hair and I’m thinking of running this alone. Thanks
Iron Lungz
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I'm sorry that no one has attended to your questions yet. It seems some forget the main reason we are here - to answer questions.
If your Estrogen is already low, why would you consider taking an AI? You need some sort of healthy level of plasma-ration to maintain libido and to keep your hair, amongst other things. N-XT has a bad reputation for giving people some very unwanted side effects. Thus far, we have not had any reports of sides that are like the ones you mentioned.
I am going to say yes it is safe; however, it's still a possibility. You have to have a healthy level of Estrogen for keeping your hair. Most think that Estrogen is the enemy, while it is too some degree, we as men could not function without it. Are you taking any preventative (finasteride/topical lotions/etc)?
Iron Lungz
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Do Rangers lead the f*cking way? Affirmative, we do!
jcdenton
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Thanks for the answer! I know that estrogen are important for hair, I'll do a complete blood work before start anything hormonal and to check if there is something wrong. I'm a very "androgenic" kind of person (body hair, great muscle hardness and vascularity,..) so probably my dht is high. Right now I’m using minoxidil but I’m seriously thinking about fina. I was thinking about formex to gain some mass and for is dht inhibiting properties.
Iron Lungz
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You can't go wrong, in my opinion. I would look into Finasteride; however, I would recommend dosing at .5mg ED, as opposed to 1mg.
LT*
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I have 2 bottles of Formex due in today. I've used TD on and off for years and love it. I've been on ATD (25 every day) for about a month. Due to low libido though, I've tapered that off (last dose was 2 days ago) and would like to start the Formex today. Is there any reason I should wait to start?
fueledpassion
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I'm curious about how to use this product with Tren-Extreme. I have 1.5 weeks left on a 4 week cycle of Tren-X. I started using Formex last night alongside my Tren. I planned on using 50/50/25/25, in which the last three weeks will be Formex alone. I have also started using AI Cycle Support, which I will use twice daily until it's gone. Is this a decent PCT? I have had very little sides associated with Tren so far. No gyno, but there is some unusual tenderness in my right nip. Anyone got any advice?
BeBig
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This definitely sounds like gyno. You may not think so or are hoping not but one of my friends on here just ran a log ended up having the same problem you are. Tenderness then little lumps and eventually a little pain...so I went back to his log and copied what he did...I will paste it right below this..so he ended up running nolvadex and it took care of it very quickly....
What he did>>>>
Gyno [Update] #1
Nipple is still painful, and puffy, but I didn't expect one day to fix this. I'm told wait a week or two for this to go. So patience is the key..which is hard..As mentioned Dirk and Rosie have been helping me address this, and I'm going to keep dosing The One, and run my SERM along side this.
I will run another 60mgs of Nolva tonight, then 40mg's until the pain goes, then 20mg's until the end of cycle. Dirk, let me know what you think?
fueledpassion
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Well, to give an update. Those symptoms are completely gone at this point. Not exactly sure if they will resurface on or after PCT tho. I dropped back to 60mg/day last week on Tren, bumped up to 75mg/day on Formex. No more tenderness, burning, painful experiences. Nipples are normal size, no puffiness--just normal at this point. I figured tapering the Tren would be best before jumping to PCT, so I extended my use of it for 1 more week, and only taking 30mg a day, which is hardly noticeable. Dropped back to 25mg Formex/day. I'll continue taking Formex during PCT, also using Clomid alongside the AI, and I'm planned on using some type of test booster only, with ZMA at nights and cycle support twice a day. This PCT should last about 4-5 weeks. I'm really hoping the seamless transition will allow my hormones to gradually level out rather than spike one way or the other. What do you think?
I did some research on Nolva use with (19-Nor products) and I found that Clomid seems to be more useful, as prolactin issues are the main thing to be concerned with. From what I've researched, the prolactin is a non-issue if you keep your estrogen levels from getting out of control. AI's and SERMs are good at this. My .02
nevergoodenough
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You guys that are using it for PCT; are you taking all 50mgs at once, or split in two doses? At morning or at night? I thought I remembered reading that it should be taken with a fatty meal, does it? If so how much fats? Thanks!
RUNNER 67
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I dose in the morning 25 mg with 5 grams of fish oil and 25 mg at night with dinner. Works fine. Nice boost prior to morning workout. No blood pressure issues or insomnia dosed later in the pm. I think its my favorite supplement to come along in a while. I love td application, but i think this is different, but better and no mess.
nevergoodenough
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sly
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1 more week, which will be 3 weeks, then I will do 25mgs twice a day for 2weeks .
nevergoodenough
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fueledpassion
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I only took 75mg for 4 days to reduce the estrogen sides, which at that dose worked effectively. 50mg/day is fine for me. I notice more vascularity, hardness, and oilier skin during workouts/pumps. Sweating increased for me as well. Libido up slightly and at random times. But then again, some of these effects were only exaggerated by the Formex since I was already on 19-Nor.
I think 50mg of Formex is fine personally, then taper to 25mg on last week or two. But if you have some estrogen related sides pop up, up the dosage by one pill/day til they subside. This is all I did. But I'm using this alongside Tren and as part of my PCT, so the application may look a little different for you.
Iron Lungz
Banned
Agreed.
One solid way to dose this that will really aid in either a Recomp, Cut, or for packing on lean mass would be: (25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg... repeat). This method is working very well for 3 people that I personally having running it and reporting all details to me weekly. All three noticed that within 7 days of dosing this way, not only did they begin to feel as if they're ON cycle (even though they're not), but the strength gains were through the roof. This is good news thus far; however, they will be dosing this way for at a minimum of 90 days. Once those 90 days are up, I will have 3 different views on the protocol and can better suggest such routine with minor tweaks. I'm telling you guys, Formex is the real deal! I'm not trying to sell anyone on a damn thing, I'm just telling it the way it's coming in.
One more thing - I can't say much, but what I will tell you is that we are working on a specific compound that will work directly with Formex to deliver astonishing gains that will be on par with actually being ON , but without the sides. That's all I can say right now. And no, none of my Reps can elaborate on this; it's strictly the Formulators puppy, but luckily, I am in the loop.
nevergoodenough
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Agreed.
One solid way to dose this that will really aid in either a Recomp, Cut, or for packing on lean mass would be: (25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg... repeat). This method is working very well for 3 people that I personally having running it and reporting all details to me weekly. All three noticed that within 7 days of dosing this way, not only did they begin to feel as if they're ON cycle (even though they're not), but the strength gains were through the roof. This is good news thus far; however, they will be dosing this way for at a minimum of 90 days. Once those 90 days are up, I will have 3 different views on the protocol and can better suggest such routine with minor tweaks. I'm telling you guys, Formex is the real deal! I'm not trying to sell anyone on a damn thing, I'm just telling it the way it's coming in.
One more thing - I can't say much, but what I will tell you is that we are working on a specific compound that will work directly with Formex to deliver astonishing gains that will be on par with actually being ON , but without the sides. That's all I can say right now. And no, none of my Reps can elaborate on this; it's strictly the Formulators puppy, but luckily, I am in the loop.
Very interesting... Would this protocol work strictly in a NHA capacity, or could it be applied to PCT as well?
Iron Lungz
Banned
I would maybe suggest a straight dose for 2 weeks into PCT, then switch over to the hybrid protocol.
M16
IBE Rep
How much do I have to pay to be in the loop bossman ???:bigok:
Agreed.
One solid way to dose this that will really aid in either a Recomp, Cut, or for packing on lean mass would be: (25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg - 25mg - 75mg... repeat). This method is working very well for 3 people that I personally having running it and reporting all details to me weekly. All three noticed that within 7 days of dosing this way, not only did they begin to feel as if they're ON cycle (even though they're not), but the strength gains were through the roof. This is good news thus far; however, they will be dosing this way for at a minimum of 90 days. Once those 90 days are up, I will have 3 different views on the protocol and can better suggest such routine with minor tweaks. I'm telling you guys, Formex is the real deal! I'm not trying to sell anyone on a damn thing, I'm just telling it the way it's coming in.
One more thing - I can't say much, but what I will tell you is that we are working on a specific compound that will work directly with Formex to deliver astonishing gains that will be on par with actually being ON , but without the sides. That's all I can say right now. And no, none of my Reps can elaborate on this; it's strictly the Formulators puppy, but luckily, I am in the loop.
Iron Lungz
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Darkman265
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When you use the hybrid protocol is that one week at 25mg one week at 75 or is that a daily protocol?
Iron Lungz
Banned
That's a daily protocol.
AK32408
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That looks like a real nice set up for dosing.
A few people have been asking me how they should set up their dosing schedule and I might recommend this to them instead !
LT*
Member
This sounds interesting, I may have to give it a try. What is the rationale for setting it up like this? If you don't mind me asking.
strategicmove
Legend
A bottle of Whiskey will do. Preferably dark, and from at least the early 1900's... Mmmmmm.
Done! :cheers;
strategicmove
Legend
A bottle of Whiskey will do. Preferably dark, and from at least the early 1900's... Mmmmmm.
Done! :cheers:
nevergoodenough
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I'll definetely guinea pig this. Weeks 1 and 2 50mg. Weeks 3 and 4 75, 25 alternating.
I'll also be taking clomid, fenugreek and lean fx.
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