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Formestane - Estrogen Control Agent - Topical

ryaroberts said:
thats what im thinking. reason i ask is b/c i had a bad rebound last mdrol and tamoxifen was not enough. i wasnt sure if i should run this along side tamoxifen then follow by using pct assist the following weeks or vice versa.
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did you rebound during pct? If so what did you use? Or did you rebound after pct?

IMO the TD form makes a nice bridge in the post pct timeframe to prevent that delayed rebound.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
Okay guys, I updated the write up in the first post. Please let me know if everything there looks good.
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The write up looks good. I like that you didn't screw around with recommending lower dosages. You got right to the point and said that most people like 200mg/day. That's a good honest recommendation :thumbsup:

DHT control could be mentioned as a reason to use on cycle for those that are prone to shedding, acne, or prostate issues.

Instigation of HPTA activity could be mentioned as a reason to use in pct.

Just some thoughts, but by no means necessary to include. The new write up is solid IMO.
 
celc5 said:
did you rebound during pct? If so what did you use? Or did you rebound after pct?

IMO the TD form makes a nice bridge in the post pct timeframe to prevent that delayed rebound.
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During PCT

my cycle was epi/mdrol
week 1-4 epi (@40mg)
week 4-7 mdrol (@10/20/20)

week 8 tamoxifen citrate (40mg) PCT ASSIST 2 caps 2X
week 9 " " (30mg) PCT ASSIST 2 caps 2X
***it was between week 9 and 10 i got my bad rebound)
week 10 started 20mg a few days, then bumped it back to 40mg PCT ASSIST 2 caps 2X

i started getting bad discharge from both nipples, puffy/swollen nipples. scared the sht out of me. started B6 and keeped tamoxifen at 40mg for the next few weeks. it eventually went down (even decreased puperty gyno) but i ran it for almost 6-7 weeks at 40mg. got blood tests done. i was ok. only problem was libido was NON EXISTENT. after a few after coming off tamoxifen, my libido had not recovered. i went back on PCT Assist (CEL) and after a few days my libido returned to normal. this was only a little while ago and i am still currently on PCT Assist (CEL). about halfway through the bottle.
 
celc5 said:
The write up looks good. I like that you didn't screw around with recommending lower dosages. You got right to the point and said that most people like 200mg/day. That's a good honest recommendation :thumbsup:

DHT control could be mentioned as a reason to use on cycle for those that are prone to shedding, acne, or prostate issues.

Instigation of HPTA activity could be mentioned as a reason to use in pct.

Just some thoughts, but by no means necessary to include. The new write up is solid IMO.
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solid, imo there are so many good reasons to use formestane that it would take 2 pages and then you might leave some out. no one is more thrilled than i am to see formestane at the top of the geadlines again-btw that was a great informative log you just ran/congrats.
 
is this out? is there a price or a eta

how will this compare to formex from IBE
 
can this be used for pct for a p-mag bold200 run?


Ill admit the only serms i know of and experience with are the usualy nolva clomid

im about to embark on my final PH journey and i want to line it up right
 
Outside Backer said:
can this be used for pct for a p-mag bold200 run?


Ill admit the only serms i know of and experience with are the usualy nolva clomid

im about to embark on my final PH journey and i want to line it up right
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you might want to use the td formestane on cycle if using bold. i just read a post by dinoii on another board where he says 6 people he was monitoring got gyno symptoms from bold, he agrees that using formestane on cycle is a good idea.
 
Backer,
I may have misinterpretted your post. But just to clarify, Formestane is an AI, not a serm.

BigT,
was it people who already had issues or was it CAUSED by the bold? Theoretically, there's nothing on the market that aromatizes that I know of :dunno: But, the form is good for prevention if there's a gyno or prolactin history like we're doing with our current cycles.
 
celc5 said:
Backer,
I may have misinterpretted your post. But just to clarify, Formestane is an AI, not a serm.

BigT,
was it people who already had issues or was it CAUSED by the bold? Theoretically, there's nothing on the market that aromatizes that I know of :dunno: But, the form is good for prevention if there's a gyno or prolactin history like we're doing with our current cycles.
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not sure which tread i will have to check, i mentioned dinoii's name as liking formestane and next thing i know there he is. he agrees on the form on a bold cycle.
 
i did a search at lb and saw those on question i tend to think some guys play with thier nipples more on cycle lol

what is the longest you can run this for straight

i was thinking of going low dose on cycle to stay dry and then increase dosage after cycle for pct which could mean being on td formestane for like 8 weeks low to high dose
 
Outside Backer said:
i did a search at lb and saw those on question i tend to think some guys play with thier nipples more on cycle lol

what is the longest you can run this for straight

i was thinking of going low dose on cycle to stay dry and then increase dosage after cycle for pct which could mean being on td formestane for like 8 weeks low to high dose
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I dont see that being a problem Ive used it for 7 weeks like that
 
mw1 said:
I dont see that being a problem Ive used it for 7 weeks like that
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the article by arthur l rea said that it is effective for up to 22 weeks of continuos use. guys like dreamweaver have been on low dose td formestane for months, and still feeling it's effects.
 
I have never used formestane before but have heard great things about it. It says that you cannot take for more than four week of continuous use. What is the time in between cycles you must take off before you use it again? I'd like to use it on my xtren/pmag stack for better gains and then use it with massfx or stoked in between cycles as well after my pct is done with.
 
tango said:
I have never used formestane before but have heard great things about it. It says that you cannot take for more than four week of continuous use. What is the time in between cycles you must take off before you use it again? I'd like to use it on my xtren/pmag stack for better gains and then use it with massfx or stoked in between cycles as well after my pct is done with.
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why not just extend pct time and include the massfx or stoked? i think formestane/ stoked would be nice together....mmm i may have to try that sometime
 
yea extending pct would work - but how many weeks in between should I leave out the formestane from on cycle into or after pct? - since you can only take formestane for 4 weeks contunuousely.
 
tango said:
since you can only take formestane for 4 weeks contunuousely.
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That's not necessarily correct. Timeframe was discussed just a few posts above where you asked this question.

Fellas just a little update on CEL's TD Formestane. I'm running a very low dose ON a P-Mag cycle. I'm running just 1 pump morning, and 1 pump evening. I have a mild case of gyno.

After about 6 or 7 days of Formestane use, the lump is definately smaller. Also abnormal sensations have been reduced. And that's occuring even though I'm on a hormonal supplement like PMag. This stuff is the real deal! :head: I HIGHLY recommend CEL's TD formestane, even this early into my log.

...did I mention that libido is up too :afro:
 
This product is definitely looking interesting to be ran as a stand alone. If one wanted to run this following the:
Stand Alone Cycles:
Week 1: 200 mg per day; 100 mg (4 squirts) twice per day
Week 2: 200 mg per day; 100 mg (4 squirts) twice per day
Week 3: 200 mg per day; 100 mg (4 squirts) twice per day
Week 4: 100 mg per day; 50 mg (2 squirts) twice per day

How many bottles would one need to purchase to run this cycle? Sorry for my ignorance, never been good with math lol.
 
Ok so with the info that GOGO posted up...and if i read correctly, one would need 2 bottles because -
200mg X 21 days = 4200mg
100mg X 7 days = 700mg = 4900mg = 4.9g

Since there is 3 grams of formestane in each bottle, that means there would be some left over for error lol. If i am wrong, someone please let me know lol. Much thanks.
 
Would Formestane and Clomid be a good PCT for a e-stane/tren/AH-89( prostanzonal clone) cycle? If so what doseages would you run?
 
AFOX said:
Would Formestane and Clomid be a good PCT for a e-stane/tren/AH-89( prostanzonal clone) cycle? If so what doseages would you run?
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I know its not addressed to me. But personally I would make it a part of pct to control estrogen but i would also use a serm if you can get your hands on one.
Thats a pretty heavy cycle bro.
 
What about a cycle of H-drol ran at 4 weeks for 50mg? Would Formestane suffice as a good PCT or would one have to get some clomid and nolva?
 
gogo said:
I know its not addressed to me. But personally I would make it a part of pct to control estrogen but i would also use a serm if you can get your hands on one.
Thats a pretty heavy cycle bro.
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Yeah, thats why I was asking if formestane and clomid would be a good PCT.
 
bmxrazr said:
What about a cycle of H-drol ran at 4 weeks for 50mg? Would Formestane suffice as a good PCT or would one have to get some clomid and nolva?
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Formestane would be fine. That is such a mild cycle I would never suggest anyone using nolva or clomid for it anyway.
 
bmxrazr said:
What about a cycle of H-drol ran at 4 weeks for 50mg? Would Formestane suffice as a good PCT or would one have to get some clomid and nolva?
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That sounds like a great first cycle. Maybe 5-6 pounds and zero sides at that dosage. No need for a serm there. Just pick up some cycle assist for on cycle and pct. Add in some creatine to the formestane for pct and you should be all set brotha!
 
celc5 said:
That sounds like a great first cycle. Maybe 5-6 pounds and zero sides at that dosage. No need for a serm there. Just pick up some cycle assist for on cycle and pct. Add in some creatine to the formestane for pct and you should be all set brotha!
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Agreed ! I'm not a big fan of Nolva(have used it) but its a first generation SERM that can cause more sides than the PH itself:raincloud:
 
Thanks for the opinions guys, I will probably pick up a bottle of H-drol and run a 4 weeker with Formestane as the PCT. Goals with the cycle are mainly cutting/drying out with maybe some lean mass. Will keep reading the forum to learn as much as I can!
 
bmxrazr said:
Thanks for the opinions guys, I will probably pick up a bottle of H-drol and run a 4 weeker with Formestane as the PCT. Goals with the cycle are mainly cutting/drying out with maybe some lean mass. Will keep reading the forum to learn as much as I can!
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Let us know if u have any cycle/pct questions
 
when is form coming to nutra?!

and when it does come, will it stick around?
not go away like before?

also, can you really use this during pct?
does the transdermal not convert to the little bit of androgens?

Ive heard and know that form can convert into a weak androgen, probally the cause of libido increases.

if not, you someone explain why me, and most people report libido increases, while on other ai's this is sometime opposite.

thanks
 
Mars1107 said:
when is form coming to nutra?!

and when it does come, will it stick around?
not go away like before?

also, can you really use this during pct?
does the transdermal not convert to the little bit of androgens?

Ive heard and know that form can convert into a weak androgen, probally the cause of libido increases.

if not, you someone explain why me, and most people report libido increases, while on other ai's this is sometime opposite.

thanks
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We are hoping to get more stock in next week, at which time we can send some to Nutra.

Our product is new, it has never gone away before. We intend on making it as long as we can find quality raw materials.

Yes, alot of people use topical formestane during PCT. There is a ton of feedback from people that have.

I cannot thoroughly explain the last question, BigT would probably be a good person to ask. But libido increase with topical Formestane is common.
 
formestane/6-bromo/atd/6oxo all can to some degree convert to androgen. but in such a small amount as to not suppress your production of testosterone to a significant level-if used in appropriate dosages. the boost in libido from formestane comes from the boost in igf-1 secretion, upregulation of hpta, and decrease of shbg. formestane has also been shown to decrease prostate concerns like bph, by reducing dht formation and activity. to put it in laymans terms formestane is a great anti-estrogen with a lot of plus's that others don't have.
 
thebigt said:
formestane/6-bromo/atd/6oxo all can to some degree convert to androgen. but in such a small amount as to not suppress your production of testosterone to a significant level-if used in appropriate dosages. the boost in libido from formestane comes from the boost in igf-1 secretion, upregulation of hpta, and decrease of shbg. formestane has also been shown to decrease prostate concerns like bph, by reducing dht formation and activity. to put it in laymans terms formestane is a great anti-estrogen with a lot of plus's that others don't have.
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^^^ Yeah, what he said :006:
 
sounds good, now let me get some!

ive only tried BSC labs formex before
 
thebigt said:
formestane/6-bromo/atd/6oxo all can to some degree convert to androgen. but in such a small amount as to not suppress your production of testosterone to a significant level-if used in appropriate dosages. the boost in libido from formestane comes from the boost in igf-1 secretion, upregulation of hpta, and decrease of shbg. formestane has also been shown to decrease prostate concerns like bph, by reducing dht formation and activity. to put it in laymans terms formestane is a great anti-estrogen with a lot of plus's that others don't have.
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I told ya'll this fella knew his form! :box:
 
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