FORMERON FAQ

ahh123 said:
When do you think your tongkat-boron-bioperine product will be available at nutraplanet?

Probably not this month but by end of the March 2014 could it be?

Or you make small batch first and offer it on BLR website almost exclusively for members of this forum?
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I think for sure by the end of March.
Ill talk to NP. Since we are working on it publicly here and there are guys who will for sure buy it they will certainly take a small initial order.
If it sells they will buy more and we are off.

Im making it primarily for you guys :)
 
bswanny said:
I'm sure this was already discussed but how do you get out the last remains in the Formeron bottle? I usually just pop off the dispenser and pound it on my forearm until the remains came out but was wondering if there is a more accurate/better way?
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Turning it over works.
I have tons of hand sanitizer at my house because my little niece always comes over and ...well she licks playground stairs and eats kitty litter so...I sanitize up.
Anyways..squirt 1-2-3 pumps of hand sanitizer in there. Swirl it around vigorously and while it will dilute the Formeron itll make it easier to get the last bit out.
 
onthemove said:
Will bioprene cpas help absorption? I have never taken them alone only had black pepper extraxt in other supps,

Im thinking of doing a formeron/tongkat/boron run with bioprene for absorption.....
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Bioperine helps with absorption yes. I dont think its needed with the tongkat and boron. They seem to work well without it.
Up to you though.
 
brundel said:
Now.....Who wants to test drive the SERM?
Its natural. But we have....altered it so its not in its natural state. Is eaten daily in many peoples diets.
Has been shown to work similar to Tamoxifen at the right dose. Same receptor binding affinities. Similar cancer prevention profile.
Similar potential to block estro and raise test and most likely also combat estro driven gyno.
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I'll test it.
 
brundel said:
Now.....Who wants to test drive the SERM?
Its natural. But we have....altered it so its not in its natural state. Is eaten daily in many peoples diets.
Has been shown to work similar to Tamoxifen at the right dose. Same receptor binding affinities. Similar cancer prevention profile.
Similar potential to block estro and raise test and most likely also combat estro driven gyno.
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I would definitely test drive the serm for you. I'm actually gonna start pct in 4 weeks. But if not I'll just wait to purchase it. I'm excited to run the serm and the tongkats product together with formeron to really jack up T levels.
 
Brundel, as for your question: yes, I would be more than willing to spend that money on a product that works.
 
flightposite said:
I would definitely test drive the serm for you. I'm actually gonna start pct in 4 weeks. But if not I'll just wait to purchase it. I'm excited to run the serm and the tongkats product together with formeron to really jack up T levels.
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Perfect Ill send you a bottle before you start PCT. Remind me in a week or so.
 
brundel said:
Perfect Ill send you a bottle before you start PCT. Remind me in a week or so.
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Ok that sounds awesome Brundel thanks.
 
flightposite said:
Ok that sounds awesome Brundel thanks.
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What did you have planned for PCT before this?
I assume a combo of things correct?

Id like to sponsor your PCT. Ill send everything you need. You have my word and guarantee that you will recover as well as ANY PCT available. Period.
This includes pharma drug based PCT.

Ill send:
1.SERM to trick the brain into thinking estro is low. THis way the LH signal is sent to make more test so..more estro can be made.
2.Formeron- to block this conversion so estro will drop and test will rise...When you use just a serm your body thinks estro is low so more test is made but it doesnt lower estrogen..in fact estro will likely rise with the rising test so an AI should ALWAYS be used for PCT.
3.The Tongkat/boron combo.

Ill do this if you will log the results for us.
 
brundel said:
What did you have planned for PCT before this?
I assume a combo of things correct?

Id like to sponsor your PCT. Ill send everything you need. You have my word and guarantee that you will recover as well as ANY PCT available. Period.
This includes pharma drug based PCT.

Ill send:
1.SERM to trick the brain into thinking estro is low. THis way the LH signal is sent to make more test so..more estro can be made.
2.Formeron- to block this conversion so estro will drop and test will rise...When you use just a serm your body thinks estro is low so more test is made but it doesnt lower estrogen..in fact estro will likely rise with the rising test so an AI should ALWAYS be used for PCT.
3.The Tongkat/boron combo.

Ill do this if you will log the results for us.
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Wow! that's very generous of you. I had planned on using clomid some formeron and a natty test booster but I hadn't decided which yet.

I would definitely log the results. I would even be willing to post blood work if you would like.
 
flightposite said:
Wow! that's very generous of you. I had planned on using clomid some formeron and a natty test booster but I hadn't decided which yet.

I would definitely log the results. I would even be willing to post blood work if you would like.
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THAT^^^ would be amazing.
I think the SERM+ Formeron+ the tongkat/boron will be plenty. In fact Im 100% sure as Ive seen it work in others already with bloodwork.
Id love to see how it works for you though as everyone is different.

Let me know the exact date you plan on starting PCT.
 
I'm starting a 4 week cycle of Super DMZ 3.0 next week so I'll be interested in hearing how his PCT goes.
 
brundel said:
What did you have planned for PCT before this?
I assume a combo of things correct?

Id like to sponsor your PCT. Ill send everything you need. You have my word and guarantee that you will recover as well as ANY PCT available. Period.
This includes pharma drug based PCT.

Ill send:
1.SERM to trick the brain into thinking estro is low. THis way the LH signal is sent to make more test so..more estro can be made.
2.Formeron- to block this conversion so estro will drop and test will rise...When you use just a serm your body thinks estro is low so more test is made but it doesnt lower estrogen..in fact estro will likely rise with the rising test so an AI should ALWAYS be used for PCT.
3.The Tongkat/boron combo.

Ill do this if you will log the results for us.
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Damn brotha, you are making a very solid rep/owner name for yourself. You are very generous and different than you need to be, but it is very respected.

I don't need much outside of Formeron and that tongkat because of my TRT, but I'll continue to bring your name up where ever possible because you deserve to be recognized.
 
kisaj said:
Damn brotha, you are making a very solid rep/owner name for yourself. You are very generous and different than you need to be, but it is very respected.

I don't need much outside of Formeron and that tongkat because of my TRT, but I'll continue to bring your name up where ever possible because you deserve to be recognized.
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Thanks bro I really do appreciate that.
I do my very best.
 
Psychward said:
So this is a prohormone but it doesnt shut down natural test production? It increases natural test?
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High doses will have a PH like effect; it's primary use is as an AI though
 
Psychward said:
So this is a prohormone but it doesnt shut down natural test production? It increases natural test?
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THere are alot of compounds talked about in this thread. Are we talking specifically about Formeron?

Formeron is an aromatase inhibitor. It does have some anabolic metabolites but its not really super strong in this respect.
Its primary purpose is for reducing estrogen and raising testosterone levels.
Higher doses youll get some added anabolic effect as well as some strength.
 
brundel said:
THere are alot of compounds talked about in this thread. Are we talking specifically about Formeron? Formeron is an aromatase inhibitor. It does have some anabolic metabolites but its not really super strong in this respect. Its primary purpose is for reducing estrogen and raising testosterone levels. Higher doses youll get some added anabolic effect as well as some strength.
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Thank you, yes i was talking about Formeron. So at 2 pumps a day it should be non-suppressive?
 
Psychward said:
Thank you, yes i was talking about Formeron. So at 2 pumps a day it should be non-suppressive?
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Yeah at 2 pumps you should feel something but not much.

I started with 5 days at 1 pump/day which was barely noticable then 1 week on 2 pumps and did notice a bit more but nothing crazy.

Then took 1 week off and now on day 3 of 3 pumps/day plus 250mg of L-DOPA (Dopadex) and still nothing crazy but my stomach area dose look better.
Do have to say now depressing dark winter in Europe plus me working on new online project so most of the day just sitting behind pc so not expecting any results in libido if no sexy thoughts all day.

Might run Formeron now 3 weeks on 3 pumps/day to finish my 1st bottle of Formeron then probably waiting a month to get another bottle with hopefully also tongkat/boron product out as well to order both.
 
ahh123 said:
Yeah at 2 pumps you should feel something but not much.

I started with 5 days at 1 pump/day which was barely noticable then 1 week on 2 pumps and did notice a bit more but nothing crazy.

Then took 1 week off and now on day 3 of 3 pumps/day plus 250mg of L-DOPA (Dopadex) and still nothing crazy but my stomach area dose look better.
Do have to say now depressing dark winter in Europe plus me working on new online project so most of the day just sitting behind pc so not expecting any results in libido if no sexy thoughts all day.

Might run Formeron now 3 weeks on 3 pumps/day to finish my 1st bottle of Formeron then probably waiting a month to get another bottle with hopefully also tongkat/boron product out as well to order both.
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Damn really?!
250mg of our ldopa cranks my libido UP!!! After a few weeks multi orgasm is possible.
Formeron may raise it or may not. It can go both ways. If estro gets super low libido goes down.
Im HIGHLY surprised your not like a dog without water. Give it a week.
 
Awesome, thanks for the replys. So i think i have 2 last questions. Is two pumps a day good as far as adding it to part of a pct? Or is a different dose recommended? Also, should i start it immedietly with serm on day 1 of pct or wait till after serm is done?
 
Psychward said:
Awesome, thanks for the replys. So i think i have 2 last questions. Is two pumps a day good as far as adding it to part of a pct? Or is a different dose recommended? Also, should i start it immedietly with serm on day 1 of pct or wait till after serm is done?
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2 pumps per day is perfect for PCT.
Start day one of your PCT and run concurrent to the SERM. So at the same time.
 
Just to keep you guys updated.
I have 10kg of the Tongkat coming. It takes a little while to receive the raw plant from malaysia then it has to be processed and extracted then shipped to us so...a couple weeks. In the meantime I have 3kg here currently.
Im also working on sourcing the boron. (harder than you might think) Its also not exactly cheap surprisingly.
At any rate Im 100% certain we can bring you the best product available for tongkat and also for a test product. Keep in mind total Test is not the important one. Its the free test that increases anabolism. So...the higher free t is the more potential you have for growth.

This stuff will crank it WAY up.

So ETA 2 weeks. give or take.


The Serm is on the back burner. I have 1/2kg at the shop and we are gonna run a few more tests. Once a few more people have eaten it and we can arrive at a good dosage we will likely release it as a solo.


The new compound is almost done. A few more days and it will ship to us.
So Ill be setting up the study guidelines over the next few days then open the study up for volunteers.
Should be pretty interesting considering the compound.
 
brundel said:
Just to keep you guys updated.

So ETA 2 weeks. give or take.

The new compound is almost done. A few more days and it will ship to us.
So Ill be setting up the study guidelines over the next few days then open the study up for volunteers.
Should be pretty interesting considering the compound.
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So give or take, it will be 2 weeks for Tongkat/Boron product?
Can you elaborate more on the new product yet?
 
Not really. The testers wont be told what they are eating. I can only say it looks exceptionally promising and nobody else is using it. Probably because the stuff is really expensive. I should have some soon so....we will run a trial with 10 people and document the results. Previous human trials were positive.

It is anabolic.
Will increase muscle and strength according to studies.
Should not be at all suppressive so..
You can take it on cycle
Pct whatever.

There are some other very interesting things this stuff does but I dont want to say too much.

Trials will start soon and we are gonna do it publicly on am.
 
brundel said:
Not really. The testers wont be told what they are eating. I can only say it looks exceptionally promising and nobody else is using it. Probably because the stuff is really expensive. I should have some soon so....we will run a trial with 10 people and document the results. Previous human trials were positive.

It is anabolic.
Will increase muscle and strength according to studies.
Should not be at all suppressive so..
You can take it on cycle
Pct whatever.

There are some other very interesting things this stuff does but I dont want to say too much.

Trials will start soon and we are gonna do it publicly on am.
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Really excited about this. Sounds interesting
 
You should be excited. I wish i could say more.....there is so much good stuff. I want to replicate the studies before I make claims. Once we run a study ourselves we will know for sure.

This compound is the future.
 
brundel said:
Just to keep you guys updated. I have 10kg of the Tongkat coming. It takes a little while to receive the raw plant from malaysia then it has to be processed and extracted then shipped to us so...a couple weeks. In the meantime I have 3kg here currently. Im also working on sourcing the boron. (harder than you might think) Its also not exactly cheap surprisingly. At any rate Im 100% certain we can bring you the best product available for tongkat and also for a test product. Keep in mind total Test is not the important one. Its the free test that increases anabolism. So...the higher free t is the more potential you have for growth. This stuff will crank it WAY up. So ETA 2 weeks. give or take. The Serm is on the back burner. I have 1/2kg at the shop and we are gonna run a few more tests. Once a few more people have eaten it and we can arrive at a good dosage we will likely release it as a solo. The new compound is almost done. A few more days and it will ship to us. So Ill be setting up the study guidelines over the next few days then open the study up for volunteers. Should be pretty interesting considering the compound.
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Thanks for the update Brundel. I am very interested in all of this!!!
 
brundel said:
Not really. The testers wont be told what they are eating. I can only say it looks exceptionally promising and nobody else is using it. Probably because the stuff is really expensive. I should have some soon so....we will run a trial with 10 people and document the results. Previous human trials were positive.

It is anabolic.
Will increase muscle and strength according to studies.
Should not be at all suppressive so..
You can take it on cycle
Pct whatever.

There are some other very interesting things this stuff does but I dont want to say too much.

Trials will start soon and we are gonna do it publicly on am.
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brundel said:
You should be excited. I wish i could say more.....there is so much good stuff. I want to replicate the studies before I make claims. Once we run a study ourselves we will know for sure.

This compound is the future.
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Another great job!
 
brundel said:
Not really. The testers wont be told what they are eating. I can only say it looks exceptionally promising and nobody else is using it. Probably because the stuff is really expensive. I should have some soon so....we will run a trial with 10 people and document the results. Previous human trials were positive.

It is anabolic.
Will increase muscle and strength according to studies.
Should not be at all suppressive so..
You can take it on cycle
Pct whatever.

There are some other very interesting things this stuff does but I dont want to say too much.

Trials will start soon and we are gonna do it publicly on am.
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sounds awesome, just finished reading the whole post from start.

Have run formeron a couple of times and love it for its hardening and subtle size increases, pump is good too got another bottle on the way
cant decide between DAA or Prolactone to run alongside it
 
MikeST said:
sounds awesome, just finished reading the whole post from start.

Have run formeron a couple of times and love it for its hardening and subtle size increases, pump is good too got another bottle on the way
cant decide between DAA or Prolactone to run alongside it
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Im not sure DAA does anything. We ran bloodwork on NMDA and NOTHING except liver stress happened.
 
The problem is it sells super fast....and we are small so we only produce so much at a time.
Currently working on increasing volume.
 
I tried formeron for the first time today to run alongside osta. It applied easily and quickly.

As previously mentioned and in PM, im definatly keen to try the Tongkat + boro combo. It might help my first comp prep go even better.
 
I had a physical recently and Ive stated before this Dr. is all about supplements or diet changes before drugs. I told him about Formeron and the results Ive had from it and he immediately knew what Formestane was. My blood work came back really good in all areas and he said he had no problems with the product and he was pleased with the results I was getting from it. BOOM, straight from a open minded DR !!! The only thing he said hewould like to see increase is my free T, so I am going to buy some Boron until U release Ur product. He also upped my TRT dose slightly :) he also has me on the three to four day injection schedule. If the other products perform like Formeron, Brundel is on his way to being a wealthy man...
 
RipdnTxs said:
I had a physical recently and Ive stated before this Dr. is all about supplements or diet changes before drugs. I told him about Formeron and the results Ive had from it and he immediately knew what Formestane was. My blood work came back really good in all areas and he said he had no problems with the product and he was pleased with the results I was getting from it. BOOM, straight from a open minded DR !!! The only thing he said hewould like to see increase is my free T, so I am going to buy some Boron until U release Ur product. He also upped my TRT dose slightly :) he also has me on the three to four day injection schedule. If the other products perform like Formeron, Brundel is on his way to being a wealthy man...
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I love seeing these thanks brother. I have talked to a few Drs that actually use Formeron instead of scripting medications.
Pretty awesome.

The Free test product will be ready shortly. Working on labels.
I have enough tongkat and boron to make approx 100 units currently so I can start soon.
 
brundel said:
I love seeing these thanks brother. I have talked to a few Drs that actually use Formeron instead of scripting medications.
Pretty awesome.

The Free test product will be ready shortly. Working on labels.
I have enough tongkat and boron to make approx 100 units currently so I can start soon.
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Any idea on the price? Can can we reserve our order and buy directly from you?
 
koi1214 said:
Any idea on the price? Can can we reserve our order and buy directly from you?
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Im working on Price.
Boron is surprisingly expensive per KG and is relatively hard to source.
I guess there is some issue with obtaining it from China. I got 1kg but I need to find a domestic source.
Im hoping to be able to be done with labels next week. So...tentatively we could have product as early as 10 days.
Itll be a small-approx 100 unit batch until I get more boron but itll last for a bit.
Ill Allow purchase through our website or me personally until NP picks it up. Our products sell well so they would likely pick it up right away.

I think Ill be able to beat the price of the quality Tongkat supps + it will have Boron which is my current fav supp.
 
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There is a new anabolic steroid bill they are trying to pass. If it passes 100% of the PH/DS will be gone.
Thankfully we are working on this new anabolic.
We will be leading the way with compounds they cant call steroids ;)

Believe it or not. I know what Im doing over here :)
 
brundel said:
Im working on Price.
Boron is surprisingly expensive per KG and is relatively hard to source.
I guess there is some issue with obtaining it from China. I got 1kg but I need to find a domestic source.
Im hoping to be able to be done with labels next week. So...tentatively we could have product as early as 10 days.
Itll be a small-approx 100 unit batch until I get more boron but itll last for a bit.
Ill Allow purchase through our website or me personally until NP picks it up. Our products sell well so they would likely pick it up right away.

I think Ill be able to beat the price of the quality Tongkat supps + it will have Boron which is my current fav supp.
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Nice news about tongkat-boron product available by the end of this month.

I guess it won't be available in Europe before Apr 2014 so looking forward to reviews by US guys.

Until then I might as well just pick up some boron product to test since I never took it.

Do you or anybody else recommend any other boron product besides NOW Boron or is this good enough?
 
ahh123 said:
Nice news about tongkat-boron product available by the end of this month.

I guess it won't be available in Europe before Apr 2014 so looking forward to reviews by US guys.

Until then I might as well just pick up some boron product to test since I never took it.

Do you or anybody else recommend any other boron product besides NOW Boron or is this good enough?
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I started taking now boron together with some other test boosting natty stuff two weeks ago after reading brundels experiences with this supp.I dont notice anything in the libido department BUT i dont loose strength at all though i already lost 12lbs the last six weeks during my hard cut
 
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