FORMERON FAQ

Driven2lift said:
Isn't Hyde 400mg?
You would be nearly 1g, not 10

10 is absurd. I wonder if that was over a day or he took it in one shot
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I think you missed the sarcasm.
 
On a side note, I talked again to one of the guys I know who tested Nettle root. Apparently they did find SOME divanil.

They tested 15 different extracts. Labeled as 95% -98%divanil. Some were from well known supps you guys buy.
None tested above 1-2%. So, I retract my 0% statement. Nobody's perfect and Ill always admit when Im incorrect.

What is correct is there is no 95% divanil. or 10%. or even likely 3%.
So I still stand by everyone out there selling you divanil products that state high% extracts are lying.

In addition the other people I know who tested it still stand by 0 was found in directly imported plant extracts so..Who knows


I have some nettle at the shop.
I ate it but didnt notice anything. When I first took Boron I noticed something so it brings into question if nettle is needed.
Its SUPER cheap so we could just throw it in at 500mg with little price increase.
 
As an aside, I've noticed that since I started adding in 10mg of boron a few weeks back, I am breaking out a little bit. I haven't had any zits or blemishes since I was in my early 20's, so I wonder if it has a play on my free test. I have not run labs since starting , so just an observation.
 
Ive only seen my own bloods running it.
Free test went from 96 to 608 in 30 days.
 
brundel said:
Ive only seen my own bloods running it.
Free test went from 96 to 608 in 30 days.
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Not sure if you posted this as well but what was your total test and estradiol values? Just wanted to see if this is at a trt dose of test or more because 608 is unreal for free test as im sure you know. Thanks man.
 
Have any of you guys ever used atd? And if so what's your thoughts on it as an estrogen blocker?
 
bswanny said:
Not sure if you posted this as well but what was your total test and estradiol values? Just wanted to see if this is at a trt dose of test or more because 608 is unreal for free test as im sure you know. Thanks man.
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Total was in the 2000 range and E2 was 90.
So Total was 200% of range but Free was close to 600%. Its a huge deal.
 
Jon2787 said:
Can formeron cause hairloss??
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In studies Formestane was a mild 5 alpha reductase inhibitor so if anything it should help with DHT related sides.
I have more than one friend who notices a reduction in BHP issues when using Formeron.
 
koi1214 said:
Take out the nettle and add the SERM.
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Yah Im thinking the SERM+ tongkat+ boron and something to help with absorption will be perfect.

Will work as a SERM.
Will work as a T booster.
Libido enhancer
Mood
energy
etc.

Ill make a batch and we can see how it works.
 
brundel said:
Yah Im thinking the SERM+ tongkat+ boron and something to help with absorption will be perfect.

Will work as a SERM.
Will work as a T booster.
Libido enhancer
Mood
energy
etc.

Ill make a batch and we can see how it works.
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This sounds like a winner - yeah agree if nettle is not doing much even if it's cheap better not put it in and let tongkat do it's magic as SHBG inhibitor.

Less is more so I'm all up for less ingredient but at right amounts so tongkat + boron and if you want also a SERM plus some bioperine to increase absorption and this is it.

I'm now day 6 of taking just 1 pump of Formeron and don't know if it's placebo or already working but I do feel more energetic and my stomach area also look less bloated despite mainly not exercising and spending most of my day behind computer.

With just 1 pump a day this 1st bottle could last me 2.5 months easily - still a bit curious to try 2 pumps a day but not need it at the moment.
 
ahh123 said:
This sounds like a winner - yeah agree if nettle is not doing much even if it's cheap better not put it in and let tongkat do it's magic as SHBG inhibitor.

Less is more so I'm all up for less ingredient but at right amounts so tongkat + boron and if you want also a SERM plus some bioperine to increase absorption and this is it.

I'm now day 6 of taking just 1 pump of Formeron and don't know if it's placebo or already working but I do feel more energetic and my stomach area also look less bloated despite mainly not exercising and spending most of my day behind computer.

With just 1 pump a day this 1st bottle could last me 2.5 months easily - still a bit curious to try 2 pumps a day but not need it at the moment.
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1 pump is a VERY low dose. Im not saying its not working just that its a very low dose.

If its working no reason to fix it. THe higher you go the more effect youll get though.
 
So with this test booster you are creating, is it something we will see produced within the next couple months or is it something that's going to come out in a few years?
 
I know someone mentioned it earlier in this thread but I couldn't find it when I went searching for it. Has anyone tried covering their hand with a plastic sandwich bag or something and then pumping the formerone onto the bag to then apply?
 
Rarchib said:
I know someone mentioned it earlier in this thread but I couldn't find it when I went searching for it. Has anyone tried covering their hand with a plastic sandwich bag or something and then pumping the formerone onto the bag to then apply?
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One guy said he applied with a glove. I use my wrist to rub.
 
BigGame84 said:
I've tried forearms but surgical gloves are easier for me to apply.
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I've tried few times now grocery plastic hand bag and have to say it's effective - I think even gel stays liquid longer than when putting on forearms and even less white crystals after applying (maybe cause with hand you can apply faster than with forearms so you can rub more and bigger area in same time).
 
When I apply my formeron I get a bunch of white crystals on my forearms. Is this normal? Should I leave them there for as long as possible rub them off once it's dry?
 
SquatsAndOats said:
When I apply my formeron I get a bunch of white crystals on my forearms. Is this normal? Should I leave them there for as long as possible rub them off once it's dry?
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It's normal. If you want you can wait like 15 minutes after applying and use a hand sanitizer that contains aloe/vitamin E to help with absorption of the crystals.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
When I apply my formeron I get a bunch of white crystals on my forearms. Is this normal? Should I leave them there for as long as possible rub them off once it's dry?
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This is just the % that doesnt penetrate the skin.
I like to wait about 10 min then apply an alcohol based hand sanitizer to the application site. This will force more through. Then just brush off any remaining crystals.
 
Never knew this about boron. What's the preferred manufacturer of this supplement. Can anybody recommend anybody?
 
Mission1 said:
Never knew this about boron. What's the preferred manufacturer of this supplement. Can anybody recommend anybody?
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NOW Foods Boron.They sell it in 3mgs and take 3 caps in the morning.On a side note I started today on test booster that brundel sent me with Boron in it.I will give an update next Sunday.
 
koi1214 said:
NOW Foods Boron.They sell it in 3mgs and take 3 caps in the morning.On a side note I started today on test booster that brundel sent me with Boron in it.I will give an update next Sunday.
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Nice. I like what I'm reading in this thread for sure.
 
koi1214 said:
So what I noticed after my first dose.It seemed to give me a nice boost in energy but without the stim crassh. It also seemed to make my body hot as my back was all sweaty.Lol but that is what my girlfriend said. I definitely noticed a increase in heart rate and bp. I think I am going to dose it at 250 mgs twice a day.
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Update

So I have been using the tongkat for a little over a week now.I take 250mgs on an empty stomach in the morning.This is what I am noticing

1. It provides a increase in energy and it seems to reduce my fatigue & stress levels.
2. An increase in libido and stamina. It seems to give me more sexual stamina.
3. Testicular fullness.This could be due to an increase in test levels.
4. No heart rate increase.

Without getting blood work I do not know if the Tongkat has increased my total or free test levels.
 
koi1214 said:
NOW Foods Boron.They sell it in 3mgs and take 3 caps in the morning.On a side note I started today on test booster that brundel sent me with Boron in it.I will give an update next Sunday.
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I read that Borax is like 11% Boron by weight so I'm assuming you could also take like 100mg of Borax, yielding ~11mg boron. I think someone posted about this earlier.
 
Rarchib said:
I read that Borax is like 11% Boron by weight so I'm assuming you could also take like 100mg of Borax, yielding ~11mg boron. I think someone posted about this earlier.
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Do not take 100mg. Supemental boron is pretty much always bound to something else. In the studies i read that got me startef using boron I believe they used tetroborate which is also approx 10%.
Currently i use boron citrate which is also approx 10%.

No need for 100mg. Im not sure but at some point it will likely become toxic as well.
10mg.
 
koi1214 said:
NOW Foods Boron.They sell it in 3mgs and take 3 caps in the morning.On a side note I started today on test booster that brundel sent me with Boron in it.I will give an update next Sunday.
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I have relatively low hopes for this version.
The new version however i think will shine. Ill send you some of the new to compare.

The batch you have has nmda in it.
On a side note there is a new study out. They tested muscle warfare nmda. High doses. Nothing happend. 0 results.
 
brundel said:
Do not take 100mg. Supemental boron is pretty much always bound to something else. In the studies i read that got me startef using boron I believe they used tetroborate which is also approx 10%.
Currently i use boron citrate which is also approx 10%.

No need for 100mg. Im not sure but at some point it will likely become toxic as well.
10mg.
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Jesus thanks for telling me that. I guess when everyone said 10mg of Boron I assumed just straight up elemental Boron
 
brundel said:
I have relatively low hopes for this version.
The new version however i think will shine. Ill send you some of the new to compare.

The batch you have has nmda in it.
On a side note there is a new study out. They tested muscle warfare nmda. High doses. Nothing happend. 0 results.
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I am still going to take what you sent me and give honest feedback but I am taking it with the rest of the tongkat I have left. I am really liking the tongkat.Saw the study on nmda at another forum and am not surprised.
 
koi1214 said:
Update

So I have been using the tongkat for a little over a week now.I take 250mgs on an empty stomach in the morning.This is what I am noticing

1. It provides a increase in energy and it seems to reduce my fatigue & stress levels.
2. An increase in libido and stamina. It seems to give me more sexual stamina.
3. Testicular fullness.This could be due to an increase in test levels.
4. No heart rate increase.

Without getting blood work I do not know if the Tongkat has increased my total or free test levels.
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What brand tongkat are you using?
 
koi1214 said:
I am still going to take what you sent me and give honest feedback but I am taking it with the rest of the tongkat I have left. I am really liking the tongkat.Saw the study on nmda at another forum and am not surprised.
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The study is shady though. They are careful to hardly mention they are testing the proprietary blend NMDA and not straight NMDA.
Since its a prop blend there may be .0000000001mg NMDA in it.

Here is an interesting newer NMDA study supporting it does work. Invalid Link Removed

I cant wait to see what you think.
ALL of the other testers gained significant weight on the caps I gave you. LH gained 7lbs I think.
My training partner used it post cycle and retained 100% of the 20lbs he gained on cycle!!!
 
brundel said:
I have relatively low hopes for this version.
The new version however i think will shine. Ill send you some of the new to compare.

The batch you have has nmda in it.
On a side note there is a new study out. They tested muscle warfare nmda. High doses. Nothing happend. 0 results.
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Not sure what your stating? Now foods Boron no good?
 
Mission1 said:
Not sure what your stating? Now foods Boron no good?
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I was referring to the version of the test booster he is taking. I think compared to later versions it will not stack up but we will have to see as things get farther along.

As for NOW boron it was the first one I took and worked very well at 9mg daily.
 
brundel said:
I was referring to the version of the test booster he is taking. I think compared to later versions it will not stack up but we will have to see as things get farther along.

As for NOW boron it was the first one I took and worked very well at 9mg daily.
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Perfect.
 
My shipment of Formeron came in a few days ago. I'm as hungry, if not more, as I was on cycle. I literally can't get full; is this normal?
 
xant said:
My shipment of Formeron came in a few days ago. I'm as hungry, if not more, as I was on cycle. I literally can't get full; is this normal?
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Not abnormal. Could be an increase in test levels.
 
Brundel I tried sending you a PM but it didn't let me. But do you think Formeron would be a good stack with alpha mass and alpha test? and when will it be in stock anywhere! lol
 
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