FORMERON FAQ

brundel said:
Tons of plants have at least mild AI activity in vitro. The issue is most also are worthless when eaten...
Mangostin from the mangosteen plant. Looks amazing on paper. We obtained a strong% extract standardized for gamma mangostin and even at 700mg twice a day it only inhibited 30%. Aromasin is like 96%. So 30% is bad.
pomegranate
Mullberry
licorice
even chamomile
have Mild AI activity. What we need....is STRONG affinity for the aromatase enzyme.

Trust me Im looking for it. Clearly others are as well and missing the mark. We spent a ton on testing mangostin but we never sold it to you guys because it didnt make the cut. DHAA also doesnt make the cut.
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Have you looked into Indole-3-carbinol and it's ability to control estrogen metabolism? There are plenty of studies to show that it does work and is much better then DIM.
 
Man it sounds like Ur cruising on low dose E..... :) Where do u pick up this combo, I,d like to give it a try. PM me if neccessary and enjoy the ride.....

D, L- Phenlalanine. The L part is used for increasing dopamine, libido, and energy. The D part is man made and activates endorphins so it is used as a powerful pain reducer. You can buy DPA or LPA without the combination, but all the research I have done indicates that the combo is the way to go for most people since just taking L-Phenylanine can make people jittery and very hyper. The 50/50 ratio seems to balance it out.

All I know is that I took 1g yesterday around noon and was flying through my day until about 8pm, and then started to unwind. I crashed at about 11pm and had the normal crazy dopamine type dreams. The difference was that I bounced out of bed with energy and in a great mood. I decided to skip my morning coffee and took another 1g about an hour ago. I am sitting here cruising through emails and just in an amazing mood. I have energy just buzzing through my muscles and feel like either going for a run or calling people to talk. LOL[/QUOTE]
 
I,m also on the Formeron train, I have my 5th and 6th bottle on the way. I love the vascularity, one of if not the best supp. Ive taken over many years....
 
RipdnTxs said:
Man it sounds like Ur cruising on low dose E..... :) Where do u pick up this combo, I,d like to give it a try. PM me if neccessary and enjoy the ride.....

D, L- Phenlalanine. The L part is used for increasing dopamine, libido, and energy. The D part is man made and activates endorphins so it is used as a powerful pain reducer. You can buy DPA or LPA without the combination, but all the research I have done indicates that the combo is the way to go for most people since just taking L-Phenylanine can make people jittery and very hyper. The 50/50 ratio seems to balance it out.

All I know is that I took 1g yesterday around noon and was flying through my day until about 8pm, and then started to unwind. I crashed at about 11pm and had the normal crazy dopamine type dreams. The difference was that I bounced out of bed with energy and in a great mood. I decided to skip my morning coffee and took another 1g about an hour ago. I am sitting here cruising through emails and just in an amazing mood. I have energy just buzzing through my muscles and feel like either going for a run or calling people to talk. LOL
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Right?

So today I am getting the exact same effects. 40-60 min after ingestion I notice I am bouncing my knee while sitting at the computer so I get up to go into the kitchen and I just feel like doing things. So I grab the dog and walk her for 45 min, come back and knock out about 100 emails and write a report. I'm just smiling as I walk around the house and being productive only like I have been on phenylpiracetam, but with a really happy mood. Here it is almost 6pm and I have dinner going, the kids painting in the kitchen, and writing this.

The stuff is incredible, imo.

edit- just saw your question. You can grab this in any vitamin store in the amino section. I encourage you to read about it and see why it is so perfect for sports supplementation.
 
Ill take a look into it.
A Noot supp would be good if I can make it incredible.
 
koi1214 said:
Have you looked into Indole-3-carbinol and it's ability to control estrogen metabolism? There are plenty of studies to show that it does work and is much better then DIM.
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I have. IIRC it increases metabolism. Does it also have AI activity?
 
Thanks for the DLPA suggestion.
Its already lead me down a path that shows some promise. Perhaps not DLPA...but some cool ideas forming.
 
brundel said:
Thanks for the DLPA suggestion.
Its already lead me down a path that shows some promise. Perhaps not DLPA...but some cool ideas forming.
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So pumped for this!

I am curious to try this DLPA. Could be a new beginning for focus potential.

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koi1214 said:
That would be the perfect preworkout. It would have all the right ingredients all at proven amounts. The key would be using micronized GMS & straight L-citruline. I would leave the stims out for those who lift at night or make a stim & stim free version.
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Definitely! brundel ;)

Hell those legit ingredients and DPLA in a pre workout would be a absolute game changer
 
koi1214 said:
Have you looked into Indole-3-carbinol and it's ability to control estrogen metabolism? There are plenty of studies to show that it does work and is much better then DIM.
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DIM has been shown in studies to be far superior than I3C
 
A good friend of mine whom also uses formeron like there's no tomorrow addes a chrysin supplement called chrysin surge. And says he notice even more dryness. It's 900mg of chrysin a serving. Would this be overkill or a plus for more physique dryness??
 
Cjg said:
A good friend of mine whom also uses formeron like there's no tomorrow addes a chrysin supplement called chrysin surge. And says he notice even more dryness. It's 900mg of chrysin a serving. Would this be overkill or a plus for more physique dryness??
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Ive never used chrysin. Its my understanding that it cant survive the intestinal tract and is pretty much useless.
 
My wife has agreed to try it for PMS(dlpa) and see if she sees any benefit as reported since I definitely see the energy, mood lift, and dopamine dreams.
 
kisaj said:
My wife has agreed to try it for PMS(dlpa) and see if she sees any benefit as reported since I definitely see the energy, mood lift, and dopamine dreams.
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It can be extremely harmful to women.
Women have much higher phenylalanine levels than men. Specifically pregnant women but Im not sure if all women apply.
Id do some serious research before you feed it to her.

honestly...buy her Prolactrone. Itll increase dopamine levels ALOT.
phenylalanine-becomes>tyrosine>LDOPA>dopamine. Since there are so many reactions needed to get to the dopamine part there is not only a wide variation in the level of increase but also the potential for none at all.
Id skip some steps and just use 99% Ldopa.
Prolactrone is for prolactin primarily bit I take 1 every day as it really kicks up mood and energy. In addition in mouse studies 90% of the mice lived 150% of normal lifespan. Unfortunately the other 10% died of sudden death within weeks or something lol....keep the dose low :)

For PMS..have her rub on 2 pumps Formeron per day for 2 days leading up to PMS and 1-2 days during.
I know several girl friends who use it for this.
In this case, mild herbal AIs might also work.

In addition, an increase in sensitivity to prolactin is believed to be part of PMS along with decreased PGE1.
Try evening Primrose.
 
It's actually very safe and has been around forever. I remember after talking to my dad about it, he remembered taking it with his weightlifting buddies years ago (along with Boron, lol) and they all loved it. Then all the sexy, designer companies started making their all in one stacks and it was forgotten.

So my wife came home from kick boxing last night absolutely beside herself. She was like, "what the hell did you give me? I am in such an amazing mood and kicked ass tonight in class, I just didn't want to stop.." I just smiled and told her to trust me.
 
No, my dad doesn't know about any of that stuff- he just lifted heavy things and ate a lot. My dad was really into vitamins and he felt that boron made him feel stronger. You have to understand that my dad is straight from Hungary, old school, very hard core Eastern European that "didn't have time to know about that crap". LOL.
 
kisaj said:
No, my dad doesn't know about any of that stuff- he just lifted heavy things and ate a lot. My dad was really into vitamins and he felt that boron made him feel stronger. You have to understand that my dad is straight from Hungary, old school, very hard core Eastern European that "didn't have time to know about that crap". LOL.
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A fellow Magyar! Nice!
 
Lol I hear that. What you guys think of creatine, di arginine malate,alpha lipoid acid and vanadyl sulfate all in one.?
 
Cjg said:
Lol I hear that. What you guys think of creatine, di arginine malate,alpha lipoid acid and vanadyl sulfate all in one.?
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Creatine is good, arginine is worthless, ALA and vanadyl are better as GDAs. What are you looking for? A preworkout combo?
 
Love creatine
Arg is useless. Use agmatine instead.
ALA can cause BP issues so I avoid it but its great for keeping your insulin levels down when eating carbs.
Not sure about vanadyl.
 
Vanadyl scares me a bit. Never been a fan but I'm sure diabetics are.
 
Is there any truth to low dosing a prohormone first thing in the morning to prevent or minimize shutdown? For example 10 mgs epistane or 5 mg superdrol?
 
Cjg said:
Is there any truth to low dosing a prohormone first thing in the morning to prevent or minimize shutdown? For example 10 mgs epistane or 5 mg superdrol?
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Broscience at it's finest, man. No, without even looking anything up, I can tell you this will not work on any level.
 
Cjg said:
Is there any truth to low dosing a prohormone first thing in the morning to prevent or minimize shutdown? For example 10 mgs epistane or 5 mg superdrol?
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No this is false.

Decades ago guys used to use Dianabol as a "bridge" during off cycles. The belief was that the dose was low enough to allow for the endocrine system/HPTA to recover while giving you some boost during PCT/OFF. Unfortunately dianabol even at 5mg is pretty strong stuff. Back in the day I had these british dispensary 5mg pink thai dianabols. I gave 30 to a friend. He ate 1- 5mg tab per day and gained 10 lbs lol...seriously. Just goes to show how underdosed **** is these days.
At any rate, some low dose anabolics will allow for recovery if the conditions are just right. For example, Formeron is anabolic. Under normal circumstances it can be used for PCT because its potential to elevate test is greater than its potential for suppression. Once dose gets higher...Im unsure here but probably the 600+ range it will do more to suppress than elevate. Might be higher, might be lower but at 1-4 pumps your fine.
This is understanding that 5mg dianabol is MUCH stronger than 2 pumps of Formeron.

Either way taking your prohormones in the morning isnt gonna do anything different than eating it at night.
I recommend spreading out oral doses and centering them around training.
 
Im gonna get to work on a Free T product.
While we are working on the test booster I can release a Free T product that I know 100% works.
I make it for myself and my Free T went up 600% so it works.

I have everything here.
SO....new plan. For you guys Im sending tongkat....would you also like to test a FREE T product?
 
brundel said:
Im gonna get to work on a Free T product.
While we are working on the test booster I can release a Free T product that I know 100% works.
I make it for myself and my Free T went up 600% so it works.

I have everything here.
SO....new plan. For you guys Im sending tongkat....would you also like to test a FREE T product?
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Hubba hubba...I wanna see some test rats take you up on this!
 
brundel said:
Im gonna get to work on a Free T product.
While we are working on the test booster I can release a Free T product that I know 100% works.
I make it for myself and my Free T went up 600% so it works.

I have everything here.
SO....new plan. For you guys Im sending tongkat....would you also like to test a FREE T product?
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I would but i think it would be best to run the tongkat log first and then the free test product.
 
koi1214 said:
I would but i think it would be best to run the tongkat log first and then the free test product.
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I got everyones stuff in labeled bags.
Ill probably ship tomorrow or something. Just so behind.
 
koi1214 said:
I would but i think it would be best to run the tongkat log first and then the free test product.
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No need to really run a log. Its only 10g. So...Im not sure how much you want to eat but its not alot.
****...I should send you guys more.
Ill up it to 20g. This will give you 40 days at 500mg.
I dont think you need 500mg though....I took 150 and it made my heart race.
 
No problem.
This is actually great for me as well. Now I get to have members of AM test and give feedback. This helps us make products that work and that you guys are stoked on. Good for both of us.
 
BigGame84 said:
Tongkat... 200:1..?
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No sir.
Its an extract we had made specifically for us.
Its unlikely there is ANY 200:1 really. 200kg to give you 1kg? There would be no tongkat left on earth lol.
It would also be extremely expensive so most likely 200:1 is a marketing scam.
Also understand that 200:1 isnt 100 times stronger than 100:1 for example. It just becomes less and less of certain chems .

I have taken most tongkat products and ours is as good or better.
But anyone can say this so...we are letting a handful of guys try it and report back :)
 
My little niece eats hands full of sand all the time....shes always full of energy. I should look into it ;)
 
I look forward to hearing the feedback from the samples the testers are getting. Hopefully, none of you get the product and disappear.
 
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