FL3X is boosting test in PCT with AgeForce Testo/100 transdermal patches

So since I keep forgetting to apply a Testo/100 patch before I leave for work, I have been doing this 1 day off, 1 day at 2 patches on kind of thing. Seems to be working pretty well for me.
Also I have just started a 5x5 training program. Never done this before (unless I forgot about highschool) so I'm looking forward to seeing some good strength, and I'm also looking forward to finally getting back into a leg routine and not just doing them here and there every other week ;)

stxnas from AI Sports sent me a sample pack and t-shirt the other day, containing a bunch of samples, a lanyard, a pill box, and the t-shirt, very cool stuff and I thank him for the hook up!
I guess I should thank KingJames too since it was his prize but he let me have it lol.
KingJames...are you alive? What happened to you???
 
Been taking the Ursobolic since the start of PCT just as FYI, haven't really noticed anything I can credit directly to it yet but I did finally get a smoke burp today lol...
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Been taking the Ursobolic since the start of PCT just as FYI, haven't really noticed anything I can credit directly to it yet but I did finally get a smoke burp today lol...
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Hahahahhaha, bro, I just posted that tonight in another thread.

I am taking Phytoserms 347, Anebeta, and Ursobolic.

Staples

N2KTS
Xtend
Creatine/Beta patches..

SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
Hahahahhaha, bro, I just posted that tonight in another thread.

I am taking Phytoserms 347, Anebeta, and Ursobolic.

Staples

N2KTS
Xtend
Creatine/Beta patches..

SJ
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Phytoserms looks like some good stuff. Always outta stock so I never really check it out though... lol..

How ya feeling in PCT fl3x?
 
I am feeling better than ever. This has got to be the best pct I've ran!
Strength is maintaining, I refuse to step on the scale but my added lean look in the mirror is hopefully a recomp look, and maybe still adding some mass. Appetite down a little but I make up for it.
Didn't notice how lethargic I was on cycle til I got off it lol.
Everything in my supp list is dosed according to the directions, keeping Ursobolic on the low side at 9 caps/day, and the test patches still running two at a time but thinking of staggering them one every 12 hours then take a day off (since I have so many).
 
Kinda funny I could have swore you and KingJames hated each other! LOL Now I hear he gave you his prizes and sh*t. Funny how things change in a matter of a week! Glad to hear this is your best pct and you are maintaining your gains bro! Cant wait to get my cycle rolling though for sure! Good luck the rest of the way through, I'll be watching!
 
SuppJunkie said:
Hahahahhaha, bro, I just posted that tonight in another thread.

I am taking Phytoserms 347, Anebeta, and Ursobolic.

Staples

N2KTS
Xtend
Creatine/Beta patches..

SJ
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Dude, the N2KTS and PhytoSerms will treat you well! Just got some creatine/ba patches in the mail :) Excited to start those.

LiveToLift said:
Kinda funny I could have swore you and KingJames hated each other! LOL Now I hear he gave you his prizes and sh*t. Funny how things change in a matter of a week! Glad to hear this is your best pct and you are maintaining your gains bro! Cant wait to get my cycle rolling though for sure! Good luck the rest of the way through, I'll be watching!
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Oh no man we just like to mess around, it's always been in good fun with us. He won an AI promo and let me have it cuz he has so much stuff from them.
 
Well I did some 5x5 training again last night.
It's hard to gauge my strength as a gain/loss scenario right now being new to 5x5, but I'm just going to guess it's about even with day 1 pct right now.

Did flat bench
Seated BB shoulder press
Deadlifts
Bent over DB rows
Wasn't ready to leave without a good pump so I did a couple sets of 20 reps behind the back single arm cable curls, 2 sets of 20 reps vbar pressdowns, and ran the rack with hammer curls followed by some standing overhead db tri extensions.

So far from this 5x5 I've gotten the following:
Excited for deadlifting once again :)
The feeling of an ab strain, just below my sternum on the side where my abs meet my ribcage thanks to struggling on my last rep with deads.
A very sore neck, more sore on one side than the other. I'm guessing this has something to do with heavy deads which I am not used to.
The need to sleep more lol.

Going to hit another 5x5 tomorrow night.
Will probably look like this:

Incline BB bench
Squats
Standing military press
Maybe some ab work

Does this look like a good A/B type of 5x5 split? I am focusing on my upper pecs. I don't want to overtrain but I don't want to leave anything out.
 
Oh and I forgot to mention, if you get Nolva capsules, make sure you either get a low dosage or buy some extra empty caps to re-cap them. Dumping half a 40mg cap in my BCAA shake makes it taste freaking NASTY!!!!


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Jeesus christ dawg you are SWOLE!!

And on the upper pecs. I think instead of military you could do incline in the 5x5 intermediate program
 
5 x 5 split looks good I would just change one thing and move the squats first before the bb incline presses I can never squat after doing something else my squat always suffers
 
mattrag said:
Jeesus christ dawg you are SWOLE!!

And on the upper pecs. I think instead of military you could do incline in the 5x5 intermediate program
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Thanks mang. So you're saying instead of military, replace with inclines, on top of already doing flat bench? What to sub in for shoulders?

bigdavid said:
Impressive arms dude keep it up
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Thanks for the pep

bigdavid said:
5 x 5 split looks good I would just change one thing and move the squats first before the bb incline presses I can never squat after doing something else my squat always suffers
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Yeah you're probably right. I usually bench first because it's my weakest point and I think it's going to take away from my workout if I do it any place other than first, but I need to get myself out of that mindset because I know it's not true.
 
You would skip shoulders. What 5x5 you doing bro? LOL I am following this template:

Workout#1
Squats 5x5
Bench 5x5
Bent over 5x5
Abs, lower back

Workout #2
Squats - top set equal the 3rd set of Workout 1
Military - 4 sets pyramiding up to max weight
Deads - 4 sets pyramiding up to max weight
Abs

Workout #3
Squats - 4 sets pyramiding up to one 3 rep set of 2.5% more than Workout one, then one set of 8 reps with weight used on set 3
Bench Press - 4 sets pyramiding up to one 3 rep set of 2.5% more than Workout one, then one set of 8 reps with weight used on set 3
Bent over row - 4 sets pyramiding up to one 3 rep set of 2.5% more than Workout one, then one set of 8 reps with weight used on set 3
Biceps, triceps, shoulder raises.

Then workout 3's top set will become monday's top set at 5 reps.
 
Yeah you can skip shoulders and add incline bench instead that is something mark rippetoe recommends if you want some more chest work I prefer that alteration myself when I did 5 x 5 a few years back
 
Thanks for the help guys. Easy on it matt I'm new to this lol.
I'll try the no shoulders thing tomorrow with squats leading the workout.
I don't know about all that math stuff lol ;)
I think I may just stick with an A/B split, like A, B, A one week then B, A, B, the next week, and attempt adding 5 more pounds every week.
For now anyways...while I do some more research on this type of training.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Thanks for the help guys. Easy on it matt I'm new to this lol.
I'll try the no shoulders thing tomorrow with squats leading the workout.
I don't know about all that math stuff lol ;)
I think I may just stick with an A/B split, like A, B, A one week then B, A, B, the next week, and attempt adding 5 more pounds every week.
For now anyways...while I do some more research on this type of training.
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Nah what you're doing is probably working lol.

I for one... love math... favorite subject. So I like to see things "add up". Probably the reason why cutting NEVER works out well... nor do my crazy attempts to get stronger WHILE cutting running some crazy russian program lol.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Well I did some 5x5 training again last night.
It's hard to gauge my strength as a gain/loss scenario right now being new to 5x5, but I'm just going to guess it's about even with day 1 pct right now.

Did flat bench
Seated BB shoulder press
Deadlifts
Bent over DB rows
Wasn't ready to leave without a good pump so I did a couple sets of 20 reps behind the back single arm cable curls, 2 sets of 20 reps vbar pressdowns, and ran the rack with hammer curls followed by some standing overhead db tri extensions.

So far from this 5x5 I've gotten the following:
Excited for deadlifting once again :)
The feeling of an ab strain, just below my sternum on the side where my abs meet my ribcage thanks to struggling on my last rep with deads.
A very sore neck, more sore on one side than the other. I'm guessing this has something to do with heavy deads which I am not used to.
The need to sleep more lol.

Going to hit another 5x5 tomorrow night.
Will probably look like this:

Incline BB bench
Squats
Standing military press
Maybe some ab work

Does this look like a good A/B type of 5x5 split? I am focusing on my upper pecs. I don't want to overtrain but I don't want to leave anything out.
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BEAST
 
mattrag said:
Nah what you're doing is probably working lol.

I for one... love math... favorite subject. So I like to see things "add up". Probably the reason why cutting NEVER works out well... nor do my crazy attempts to get stronger WHILE cutting running some crazy russian program lol.
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Oh I'm good at math, I just prefer not to have to complicate things in the gym lol.

TheBGRigatoni said:
BEAST
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You're too kind
 
Did the 5x5 today

BB press
Incline pres (4 sets only though, light weight)
Hack squat sled

Felt pretty good and pretty strong, but only time will tell ;)
Also loving this staggered patch idea. Noticing increased sweating in bed unfortunately but that just means the testo patches work right? Funny how an unwanted effect can also be welcome at the same time.

BIGRIGATONI bro I got the goods today, but of course, like I told you, I wasn't home in time to intercept it, so it's at the post office waiting for me. Hopefully I get out early enough tomorrow to get it.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Oh I'm good at math, I just prefer not to have to complicate things in the gym lol.

You're too kind
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Haha. I know what you mean. But after having stopped most of my natty gains going heavier/more reps every time I lift unfortunately doesnt happen much anymore :(
 
mattrag said:
Haha. I know what you mean. But after having stopped most of my natty gains going heavier/more reps every time I lift unfortunately doesnt happen much anymore :(
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There comes a time in every man's life where he must subject himself to 20 rep squats and other such torcher to shock the body into new growth :)

After reading one of the latest articles on AM today I think I have found part of your problem Matt. You change your workout style too often because the next best article on bulking/cutting/etc comes out and it triggers that little voice in the back of your mind that consequently leads to you switching your workout before reaching your current short term goal. Too much switching leads to not great results!

I have the same problem lol. I did a cycle, recovered, did a 5 week cut, did a cycle, and here I am not at the target weight I wanted, all because I thought maybe I should try out a cut at obviously very bad timing. Not cutting again til spring!
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
There comes a time in every man's life where he must subject himself to 20 rep squats and other such torcher to shock the body into new growth :)

After reading one of the latest articles on AM today I think I have found part of your problem Matt. You change your workout style too often because the next best article on bulking/cutting/etc comes out and it triggers that little voice in the back of your mind that consequently leads to you switching your workout before reaching your current short term goal. Too much switching leads to not great results!

I have the same problem lol. I did a cycle, recovered, did a 5 week cut, did a cycle, and here I am not at the target weight I wanted, all because I thought maybe I should try out a cut at obviously very bad timing. Not cutting again til spring!
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Yup. My little story on my thread said much of the same. Cut, bulk, cut, bulk, train for strength, train for size, train for cutting. I should just pick a base of training and stick with that. Rotate those around and use it as my training. Diet...? I should keep to one goal for a long time. Then bulk for a long time. Training ADD sucks. Leads to nothing lol.
 
mattrag said:
Yup. My little story on my thread said much of the same. Cut, bulk, cut, bulk, train for strength, train for size, train for cutting. I should just pick a base of training and stick with that. Rotate those around and use it as my training. Diet...? I should keep to one goal for a long time. Then bulk for a long time. Training ADD sucks. Leads to nothing lol.
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I know right? I love bulking, I just hate when my abs aren't that visible :(
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
I know right? I love bulking, I just hate when my abs aren't that visible :(
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Me too... I just started to see them for the first time in my life recently too. :(
 
I have never really had abs and I have always been skinny it sucks!! I think for my next cycle I am really going to cut down and get that ab-age out lol I kinda saw them when I was doing a recomp with anabeta a few months ago but they weren't really popping out at all :(
 
Oh thanks chev you wait til I'm sleeping to point things like this out lol
 
Thank You FL3X (Justin) and AgeForce for hooking me up some samples to try of your patches...LOOKS SOLID!!!!!!!!!! WAHOOOOO

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No problem bro, let me know how they work for you. The Powerpatch has added benefits the longer you take it, one month worth should get you some solid sleep and vivid dreams at very least, maybe added energy during the day.

Keep an eye on your email Thursday guys! Hooking you up big!
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
No problem bro, let me know how they work for you. The Powerpatch has added benefits the longer you take it, one month worth should get you some solid sleep and vivid dreams at very least, maybe added energy during the day.

Keep an eye on your email Thursday guys! Hooking you up big!
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That will be interesting to see since you don't have my mailing address. Lol. J/k
 
Onlychevy6 said:
That will be interesting to see since you don't have my mailing address. Lol. J/k
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Just give your mailing address to Ageforce tomorrow ;)
 
damn that is a good ass deal man! What particular patch should i try out, keep in mind my cycle starts in a few weeks?
 
Well everything's hangin low lol...good signs here. Still feeling great, feeling strong, have been avoiding the scale though.
Girlfriend says I look bigger actually...could still be gaining size! I'm guessing it's more of an optical illusion though, and I'm shedding more bodyfat :)
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Well everything's hangin low lol...good signs here. Still feeling great, feeling strong, have been avoiding the scale though.
Girlfriend says I look bigger actually...could still be gaining size! I'm guessing it's more of an optical illusion though, and I'm shedding more bodyfat :)
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Bro your Bro your PCT is going damn well! Im jealous lol.

Im actually thinking though... Im going to run a AH/Sdrol cycle to lean out, then another Ultradrol cycle after that, then my last cycle of Japan will be a AH/sdrol or UD cycle. haha. What would you suggest? (Total thread jack, but it's been quiet on this thread ;P)
 
mattrag said:
Bro your Bro your PCT is going damn well! Im jealous lol.

Im actually thinking though... Im going to run a AH/Sdrol cycle to lean out, then another Ultradrol cycle after that, then my last cycle of Japan will be a AH/sdrol or UD cycle. haha. What would you suggest? (Total thread jack, but it's been quiet on this thread ;P)
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Man you want to run AH/SD to lean out? I can see the SD as a good mass compound while eating low maintenance cals on a recomp, and could probably also justify the AH as I feel it kept my gains fairly lean...how soon are you planning to start? If you were waiting til early Jan I would look into an AH/AL combo instead, it's going to be killer!
Not to mention, eating low calories and trying to "cut" while letting your body take a beating from the SD (makes me feel like total sh!t) would be like double impact for me. I feel like sh!t already when I diet down lol.
I honestly haven't read much about Ultradrol though but Stopstalking seems to be getting good results out of it.
If you're looking for most effective (and legal) stack for leaning out I would suggest AH/AL. But if you were looking for most cost effective I would maybe play around with your options on bridging using Epi and either SD or Ultra. I would prefer Ultra out of the two choices myself, because what I have read about it, sides seem low.
And don't forget that IBE has some good stuff on the way out....
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Man you want to run AH/SD to lean out? I can see the SD as a good mass compound while eating low maintenance cals on a recomp, and could probably also justify the AH as I feel it kept my gains fairly lean...how soon are you planning to start? If you were waiting til early Jan I would look into an AH/AL combo instead, it's going to be killer!
Not to mention, eating low calories and trying to "cut" while letting your body take a beating from the SD (makes me feel like total sh!t) would be like double impact for me. I feel like sh!t already when I diet down lol.
I honestly haven't read much about Ultradrol though but Stopstalking seems to be getting good results out of it.
If you're looking for most effective (and legal) stack for leaning out I would suggest AH/AL. But if you were looking for most cost effective I would maybe play around with your options on bridging using Epi and either SD or Ultra. I would prefer Ultra out of the two choices myself, because what I have read about it, sides seem low.
And don't forget that IBE has some good stuff on the way out....
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I know, but I ran the old AH/AL and my results werent bad they were PRICEY @.@!
The AL/AH stack would probably be the best on the body, liver etc. but I dont think I can swing the funds to purchase it. I know the sdrol/AH cycle will produce decent results... unless of course I die lol. IBE has Ment and tren coming yea... Though I dont know if theyd let me log it ;p

I have both AH and Sdrol on me. UD seems to be the best thing that has hit the markets in a while. But I HAVE AH and sdrol lol. (CEL Mdrol).

I donno though... I know my goals... get leaner and get bigger and stronger. But like I was telling you earlier Ment is really WET. Might be too wet for me to use... afraid of looking too fat lol. Plus I dont like looking bloated...
 
Well shizit! There you have it...your cycle is mapped out for you then lol. Unless of course you traded something of yours with anyone that's looking to trade off some Epi.
AH/SD will get you where you want in my opinion but I know the SD will hurt lol.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Well shizit! There you have it...your cycle is mapped out for you then lol. Unless of course you traded something of yours with anyone that's looking to trade off some Epi.
AH/SD will get you where you want in my opinion but I know the SD will hurt lol.
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Haha. It's gonna be low dose sd.

Epi for AH? Or epi for sd? Or UD and AH? !!!

Haha. Yea.
 
HAI GAIZ!

Only 7 more patches left til I am done with my Testo/100 patches....I am pretty impressed!
 
Well...yeah, that might be only 4 weeks now lol.
I will be running Sustain Alpha and Phyto Test, thinking about buying an extra Phyto Test and running 8 weeks total, throwing something else in on top of that maybe.
And of course, I will continue using my Ursobolic as I think it may be doing something, and at very least is keeping me healthier lol.
Also I just won some PLCAR so I will be running that soon too.
You know how it goes though...8 weeks will probably turn into 4 lol. I am guessing I will end up volunteering to run a PH about 4 weeks after I'm done w PCT.
 
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