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I decided to try a very low carb day today, (before I read all this) and I feel extremely lethargic today. Tomorrow I'm going to try upping the carbs. And for anyone wondering, the food has been really clean, basically as far as carbs go, oats, sweet potato, pumpkin and rice. And I usually dont eat pumpkin but I added it to my oats with some cinnamon, and im doing it till I get sick of it lol, its freakin amazing.

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Zhikart said:
I decided to try a very low carb day today, (before I read all this) and I feel extremely lethargic today. Tomorrow I'm going to try upping the carbs. And for anyone wondering, the food has been really clean, basically as far as carbs go, oats, sweet potato, pumpkin and rice. And I usually dont eat pumpkin but I added it to my oats with some cinnamon, and im doing it till I get sick of it lol, its freakin amazing.

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I'm sure you will see a difference and the lethargy will get better with some more carbs in there. Don't be afraid of them when on cycle ;)
 
transderm would take card of the lethargy.

I know your staying low carb but have you considered carb cycling?? every 4 or 5th day??
 
gymrat827 said:
transderm would take card of the lethargy.

I know your staying low carb but have you considered carb cycling?? every 4 or 5th day??
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Yeah I have considered carb cycle and in a way I kinda am doing a modified carb cycle, just keeping carbs super low on off days/cardio days.

Yesterdays macros were:
Calories - 1960
Fat - 65
Carb - 50
Pro - 273
 
Had a bad day yesterday eating wise, felt super lethargic so I had a little binge. Feel alot better today, I overdid it Wednesday.

Few questions about the lethargy.
- Does it go away in time?
- Why is it happening, is it even PH related or just to low of carbs?
- When you say a transderm will fix it, which one and is it to late to get one?
 
it will not go away, RS transderm is what you want. ntbm has it

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If I order it should I start using it right away?
Should I use it during PCT?
Thanks, think I might just order it, this lethargy blows

EDIT: out of stock :(
 
Arms yesterday, Had a great workout but had to take a few scoops of jack3d or it would have been awful. I ordered the transaderm from amazon and it should be here in like a week and a half. Even if its to late to start taking it i figure I could use it some other time. If I use the transaderm 45mg epi and katana will it be over kill, I dont want to put any extra stress on my organs.

Yesterdays macros
Calories 2273
fat 51
Carb 172
Pro 268
 
Zhikart said:
If I order it should I start using it right away?
Should I use it during PCT?
Thanks, think I might just order it, this lethargy blows

EDIT: out of stock :(
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On cycle only for transaderm.

And yes, im waiting for a restock as well!
 
Yesterday was the end of my second epi-strong week. So far I have seen no change except lethargy but I wasn't expecting to. This weekend was bad to say the least, I ate like **** and didn't workout cause I felt so lethargic. Its hard to get motivated to go to the gym in -15 degree weather when you gotta walk 1 mile. Anyways I feel alot better today and its like a fresh start monday!. Doing chest today and I'm going to take jack3d till this transaderm arrives. Any objections??? Thanks a lot guys.
 
Zhikart said:
Yesterday was the end of my second epi-strong week. So far I have seen no change except lethargy but I wasn't expecting to. This weekend was bad to say the least, I ate like **** and didn't workout cause I felt so lethargic. Its hard to get motivated to go to the gym in -15 degree weather when you gotta walk 1 mile. Anyways I feel alot better today and its like a fresh start monday!. Doing chest today and I'm going to take jack3d till this transaderm arrives. Any objections??? Thanks a lot guys.
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As long as you've had no BP issues you should be able to add in a preworkout like Jack3d with no problem. The Transaderm will help a lot when it comes in with lethargy ;)
 
Really good chest workout today. Not much else to say, felt a little lethargic after the workout. Back on track with diet.

Calories - 2677
Fat - 48
Carb - 213
Pro - 329
 
Did some morning cardio at like 6am and had a great back workout today. Still had to take jack3d though. Question about when the transaderm comes, should I just follow the directions as far as how many pumps to do? and just use it the remainder of the epi cycle? Thanks

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Zhikart said:
Did some morning cardio at like 6am and had a great back workout today. Still had to take jack3d though. Question about when the transaderm comes, should I just follow the directions as far as how many pumps to do? and just use it the remainder of the epi cycle? Thanks

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You could just do the recommended dose of 5 pumps or you can bump it a little and do 6 or 7. I wouldn't be afraid to go 7 pumps if I were you while running the EPI. EPI will act as an AI, so bumping the dose up wont hurt.
 
RickRock13 said:
You could just do the recommended dose of 5 pumps or you can bump it a little and do 6 or 7. I wouldn't be afraid to go 7 pumps if I were you while running the EPI. EPI will act as an AI, so bumping the dose up wont hurt.
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x2x


im using 8 pumps ED but taking 1-2 caps of bromo (the AI)
 
End of the third week of epi-strong, so half way done. Got a couple questions though about next few weeks, I plan on keeping the epi-strong at 45 mg but I have 1 bottle of katanadrol v2.0 with 150 caps and the transaderm is coming tomorrow. Question is how should I do the katanadrol, I have heard that its useless at 250mg which is what the bottle suggests. And anyone got tips for doing the transaderm, where and just little tips that arnt on the bottle?
Thanks
 
Think I've got a katana dosing worked out.
300mg for 7 days
350mg for 7 days
400mg for 7 days
Will leave me with 3 pills left over

About when to take it, should I split it in 2 dosings like with my epi-strong?

I currently take epi-strong in the morning. Then my cel like 3 hours after that
Then I take epi strong at like 5pm and then cel at like 10pm

Thoughts on the katana? thanks
 
Zhikart said:
Think I've got a katana dosing worked out.
300mg for 7 days
350mg for 7 days
400mg for 7 days
Will leave me with 3 pills left over

About when to take it, should I split it in 2 dosings like with my epi-strong?

I currently take epi-strong in the morning. Then my cel like 3 hours after that
Then I take epi strong at like 5pm and then cel at like 10pm

Thoughts on the katana? thanks
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Yeh split the doses on Katana just like you do the EPI. The dose schedule you have worked out is good too, but I would also consider just doing 350 each day for the 3 weeks. Should use the same amount of pills and that is the sweet spot ;)
 
RickRock13 said:
Yeh split the doses on Katana just like you do the EPI. The dose schedule you have worked out is good too, but I would also consider just doing 350 each day for the 3 weeks. Should use the same amount of pills and that is the sweet spot ;)
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Yeah I agree...just run it at 350 or pick up another bottle and run it at 400+! :D

I think you'll notice a nice leaning effect especially if you're taking epi strong
 
RickRock13 said:
Yeh split the doses on Katana just like you do the EPI. The dose schedule you have worked out is good too, but I would also consider just doing 350 each day for the 3 weeks. Should use the same amount of pills and that is the sweet spot ;)
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TheDarkHalf said:
Yeah I agree...just run it at 350 or pick up another bottle and run it at 400+! :D

I think you'll notice a nice leaning effect especially if you're taking epi strong
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Will do 350 the entire way. Thanks
 
dose the katan 3x ED. it has a very short halflife, like 3.5-5hrs. you only need to dose epi 2x ED, katan 3x. Epi's half life is 8hrs
 
Hey all, sorry I have not posted for a while, life has gotten in the way. I am currently on 60mg epi, 350 katana, 7 pump transaderm. Still not really feeling anything to be honest, people say I look bigger but I do not feel any different. No side effects as well. I start the PCT on monday and just wanted to clear up a few questions I had before getting there.

For PCT I have nolvadex, erase, HCGenerate.
1. Should i take these spread out through the day, whats half life of these basically? Should I follow the manufacturers instructions?
2. Should these be taken with food?
3. Can they be taken with cycle assist/multi?

Thanks alot
 
Zhikart said:
Hey all, sorry I have not posted for a while, life has gotten in the way. I am currently on 60mg epi, 350 katana, 7 pump transaderm. Still not really feeling anything to be honest, people say I look bigger but I do not feel any different. No side effects as well. I start the PCT on monday and just wanted to clear up a few questions I had before getting there.

For PCT I have nolvadex, erase, HCGenerate.
1. Should i take these spread out through the day, whats half life of these basically? Should I follow the manufacturers instructions?
2. Should these be taken with food?
3. Can they be taken with cycle assist/multi?

Thanks alot
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it makes no difference when you take the HCGen/nolva/erase. Id do it at night or pre WO.....but thats just me. Nolva does have a 5 day half life so remember that.

Erase/HCGen half life isnt something you need to be concerned with. nor does anyone really know it cuz its not something really important like the half life of a PH/Serm/Sarm/Peptide/AAS

HCGenereate 5 caps, pre wo or pre bed. or 2 am, 3pm. whatever...
nolva 40/20/10/10. take it all in one dose, id do it 1st thing am.
Erase 0/3/3/2/2/1/1 take it with the HCGen

I am so use to popin 40 pills ED i dont even remember to take them with or without food anymore. I guess having something in your stomach would be a good tho. yes you can take them with cycle assist/multi vit
 
how did this cycle turn out boss?
 
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