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First PH Cycle

asoulecpt

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Hey I just jumped onto anabolicminds a few days ago, so Im kinda a noob I guess but anyhoo... I'm starting a cycle next week, Im 23, 5'10" and 150. Here's what it looks like. Any suggestions would greatly help!

Phera (CEL P-Plex)
Week 1: 10 mg
Week 2: 20 mg
Week 3: 20 mg
Week 4: 20 mg
Week 5: 10 mg Stacked with Inhibit-E 50 mg, DHEA 100 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, ZMA
Week 6: Inhibit-E 50 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, DHEA 100 mg, ZMA
Week 7: Inhibit-E 50 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, DHEA 100 mg, ZMA
Week 8: Inhibit-E 50 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, DHEA 100 mg, ZMA
Week 9: Inhibit-E 25 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, DHEA 100 mg, ZMA
Week 10: Inhibit-E 25 mg, Milk Thistle 150 mg, DHEA 100 mg, ZMA

Nolva on hand if needed.
 
id put on some weight before turning to ph's ur 5'10 150 you havent nearly reached ur natural potential just my opinion though
 
So depending on how much weight you get on Phera, and judging by your current weight, im guessing you dont have as much experience in a gym, if I'm right, and I very well could be wrong, but you might want to make sure you have VERY good heel support in your shoes. The rapid gain in strength and weight will play hell on your feet. Look up Plantar fasciitis.
 
I've been training for about 2 years, I'm certified in personal training, and Im sure I havent reached my potential weight. That's what the phera's for. I have a small frame, 175 would probually be the most I want to get to. I have a clean diet and Im at 7% body fat right now, cut up enough, now its time for some size. I know all about plantars foot, I have a client right now who has it. I aint stressen. How does the cycle look?
 
asoulecpt said:
I've been training for about 2 years, I'm certified in personal training, and Im sure I havent reached my potential weight. That's what the phera's for. I have a small frame, 175 would probually be the most I want to get to. I have a clean diet and Im at 7% body fat right now, cut up enough, now its time for some size. I know all about plantars foot, I have a client right now who has it. I aint stressen. How does the cycle look?
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where'd you get certified? just wondering. not criticizing
 
Well in that case if you do think your ready for a Ph, and if its your first cycle. You need a Serm, saw that you have it on hand but I would go ahead and use it. Phera is kinda wet, I would say use H-drol or Havoc, maybe the 1-t Tren. But if still you insist on Phera I would go 10/20/20/30. Phera-Max was my first Ph and I dosed it at 15/30/30/45, at the age of 22. I was 175 and went to 190.
 
At your height and weight, I do not think you should even touch a PH. You can say a small frame or what not, but I was 150 at one time and would have said the same. I managed to put on another 46lbs with proper diet. PHs should be used to push you over your genetic limit, not get you there. If you can't get there on your own, after your cycle you will just go back to your old size since your diet can not support it.
 
Doses of p-plex look good. I would use the DHEA in combination with the P, not for pct, it will hamper recovery and possibly shut you down more. Useing creatine throughout the cycle (and beyond) will help you gain and maintain mass. I dont think you need a serm, there are board sponsors with great PCT combos that will work as well, like the TRS from PP, it can be used during cycle as well to mitigate shut-down. JMO
 
Thanks for the help guys. I started the p-plex yesterday and the doseage at 20mg instead of 10. One of my buddies from the gym who has used a number of "PH"s said just to start at 20. Imma cut out the dhea now and just add in the nolva at my pct. My buddy also said that if I didnt use the nolva I would pretty much be wasting my time and my health. I'll have before and after pics up in a few weeks. Oh and Joebo, I understan what your saying but theres something called natural weight and when you increase your size your natural weight increases as well. Even at a lower caloric intake. But I am very impressed with your natural 46lbs gain, thats a lot of dedication man!
 
hadijd said:
Well in that case if you do think your ready for a Ph, and if its your first cycle. You need a Serm, saw that you have it on hand but I would go ahead and use it. Phera is kinda wet, I would say use H-drol or Havoc, maybe the 1-t Tren. But if still you insist on Phera I would go 10/20/20/30. Phera-Max was my first Ph and I dosed it at 15/30/30/45, at the age of 22. I was 175 and went to 190.
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I agree with this; I'd definitely run the SERM. Phera wasn't as wet for me as I thought it would be, but I also stacked it with a tren analogue, so I'm sure that helped keep things dry. I'm also not a huge fan of DHEA; I'd wait til you're older to mess with that stuff. Personally I'd probably increase the milk thistle dose a little.

And I would not ramp the dosage back down like that. If you're shut down, you're shut down, and exogenous test is exogenous test. Ramping down will not bring you back faster. If you're set on 5 weeks I'd plan to run it something like 10/20/20/30/30, with the 5th and final week being optional, depending on your sides, gains, and how you're feeling. If you're doing 4 weeks I'd just jump in @ 20/20/30/30. :twisted:

Other than that, looks pretty good. I don't know much about Inhibit-e; I personally would've added something like Diesel Test Hardcore, T-911, Stoked, or PCT Assist. Be sure to keep up the healthy fats, especially before bed during PCT as they are essential for proper hormone production, and you'll need them to get you back up to par as quickly as possible.

I think that should cover all your bases. Good luck with your run, bro! Catch you at the gym! ;)
 
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