First Epi Cycle

TKC432 said:
I always thought that once you've got gyno the only real solution involves surgery. Is it common on an Epi cycle to need more for PCT than the SUP3R PCT? I would rather spend the money on another Oly Labs product other than TransFORM if I really really don't need it. Gonna hit the big sale tomorrow regardless and get what I can get with the limited funds I have.
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You will notice signs of gyno (itchy/sensitive nipples) that's when you would need to use transFORM. If those signs go untreated, then yes you would probably need surgery.

It's your money and your body, you can do and spend your funds as you want. It would be smart to have transFORM just in case, but again it's your call.
 
DAY #33
EP15TANE - 45mg
AR1MACARE PRO - 3 caps

Feeling great! Feeling REALLY strong now .... this stuff has really kicked in. Chest workout was awesome last night .... threw up weights for higher reps than ever..... Only have about 9 days left on cycle ..... wish I could just keep it going longer.

Here are the stats from last night

Chest & Shoulders

1. Incline Bench Press
2x12 165lb
2x12 185lb
2. Flat Bench Press
1x10 205lb
1x10 215lb
2x6 225lb
3. Db Flys
3x15 45lb
1x12 50lb
4. Seated Military Press
2x12 115lb
2x10 125lb
5. Db Lateral Raise
3x12 30lb
6. Db Front Raise
3x10 30lb
7. Db Hammer Curls (Bi's needed some love)
4x12 30lb

Great workout .... was a little pressed for time due to in-laws showing up..... So I reduced my rest times to 45-60 sec and still managed to throw around some descent weight. Loving this Epi cycle and not wanting it to end ..... Thanks again Olympus Labs !!!!! ;)
 
Savage99 said:
There's really not a comparison to be made here bro..
There in 2 different leagues really but both can be used effectively depending on your reasons.
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Doesnt the super pct have an AI in it as well?
Isnt the transform an AI?
Guess im a little confused lol
 
Whew ! Been away from the laptop too long. A swarm of in-laws from Texas invaded my house and its been a hectic week with absolutely no time to devote to sitting in front of the laptop. I did get my training in .... I will NOT miss a workout regardless of family situations. Anyway .... I will be posting my last few workout logs in a bit and get up to date on this Epi log. Weighed myself this morning .... up almost 20lbs since starting this!!!! Tuesday will be the last dose of Epi and then PCT will start Wednesday morning. Joints are sore as hell so I think I am gonna welcome a little estrogen back ... ;) This has been an awesome product from Olympus Labs that has performed better than I expected. Strength has been through the roof and the 20lb gain in mass is nice .... My pants fit looser than before yet I am up 20 lbs .... no noticeable fat gain so I can assume that its almost all muscle gain. Very nice. I will definitely include Olympus Labs EP15TANE in my future cycles ..... thinking of doing and Epi/TR3N cycle next ..... THANK YOU OLYMPUS LABS !!!!
 
TKC432 said:
Whew ! Been away from the laptop too long. A swarm of in-laws from Texas invaded my house and its been a hectic week with absolutely no time to devote to sitting in front of the laptop. I did get my training in .... I will NOT miss a workout regardless of family situations. Anyway .... I will be posting my last few workout logs in a bit and get up to date on this Epi log. Weighed myself this morning .... up almost 20lbs since starting this!!!! Tuesday will be the last dose of Epi and then PCT will start Wednesday morning. Joints are sore as hell so I think I am gonna welcome a little estrogen back ... ;) This has been an awesome product from Olympus Labs that has performed better than I expected. Strength has been through the roof and the 20lb gain in mass is nice .... My pants fit looser than before yet I am up 20 lbs .... no noticeable fat gain so I can assume that its almost all muscle gain. Very nice. I will definitely include Olympus Labs EP15TANE in my future cycles ..... thinking of doing and Epi/TR3N cycle next ..... THANK YOU OLYMPUS LABS !!!!
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Holy sh*t dude. 20 lbs while trimming up!!?? I'm DEFINITELY doing EP15TANE next! Lol gah dawg buddy nice run!
 
TKC432 said:
Whew ! Been away from the laptop too long. A swarm of in-laws from Texas invaded my house and its been a hectic week with absolutely no time to devote to sitting in front of the laptop. I did get my training in .... I will NOT miss a workout regardless of family situations. Anyway .... I will be posting my last few workout logs in a bit and get up to date on this Epi log. Weighed myself this morning .... up almost 20lbs since starting this!!!! Tuesday will be the last dose of Epi and then PCT will start Wednesday morning. Joints are sore as hell so I think I am gonna welcome a little estrogen back ... ;) This has been an awesome product from Olympus Labs that has performed better than I expected. Strength has been through the roof and the 20lb gain in mass is nice .... My pants fit looser than before yet I am up 20 lbs .... no noticeable fat gain so I can assume that its almost all muscle gain. Very nice. I will definitely include Olympus Labs EP15TANE in my future cycles ..... thinking of doing and Epi/TR3N cycle next ..... THANK YOU OLYMPUS LABS !!!!
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Wow, great job man. Gain 20 lbs, and pants fit more lose? I think it's safe to say you didn't gain any fat lol. Can't wait to see pics!
 
Yeah I am happy with this cycle. Not really "happy" with where I am at yet though. I started this whole thing needing to do a serious cut .... could stand to lose about 20lbs of fat. However I went into this figuring I would bulk it as much as possible and then start my much needed cut. So I still need to cut some serious fat to get down to where I look as good as I feel. I will post some after pics in a few days .... be gentle ;) Standing in the mirror its very noticeable that my shoulders, traps and upper chest gained some good mass. Can't wait to peel off that layer of blubber so they really stand out.

Bottom line .... Olympus Labs EP15TANE is the real deal ! I am very impressed with how it performed. Strength was incredible and despite still having a good layer of bulking blubber I did gain some serious mass. Definitely a product worth using again.
 
Here are the stats from the last few training sessions....

8/5/14 (Tue)

Back

1. Deadlift
2x8 265lb
2x8 285lb
2x8 305lb
2x6 325lb
2. BB Row
3x12 145lb (Pause/squeeze at top and slow eccentric)
2x8 165lb
3. Meadows Row
4x12 Bar + 70lb
4. Landmine Row
3x10 Bar + 70lb
1x8 Bar + 80lb
5. BB Shrugs
2x15 205lb
2x10 225lb
6. Rear Delt Flys
3x12 25lb
7. Db Bent Row (good high rep finisher)
3x20 45lb

Good workout Feeling strong. ;)
 
8/7/14 (Thu)

Legs/Arms/Abs

1. Front Squat
1x8 155lb
2x8 165lb
1x6 185lb
1x6 195lb
1x3 205lb
2. BB Calve Ext
3x15 225lb
2x10 255lb
3. Quad Ext
1x20 140lb
4x12 165lb
2x10 175lb
4. Bench Dips
3x25 BW
2x15 BW + 45lb plate
5. DB Skullcrushers
3x12 30lbs
6. Incline Db Curls
3x15 30lbs
7. Standing Db Curls
3x8 45lbs
8. Db Hammer Curls
3x12 30lbs
9. Db Concentration Curls (pause/squeeze at top/slow eccentric) (6 xreps at end of each set for incredible pump)
2x12 30lbs
10. Ab Routine (consisting of crunches, oblique crunches, leg lifts, v-ups and windshield wipers)

Very strong workout .... great pump felt good ;)
 
8/8/14 (Fri)

Chest & Shoulders

1. Incline Bench Press
1x12 165lb
2x10 185lb
1x8 205lb
2. Flat Bench Press
1x12 185lb
1x10 205lb
1x8 215lb
2x5 225lb
3. Db Flys (2 sets incline / 2 sets flat)
4x12 45lb
4. Seated Military Press
2x12 105lb
2x10 115lb
2x6 125lb
5. Seated Behind Neck Press
3x12 95lb
6. BB Moderate Grip Upright Row
4x12 85lb
7. Db Lateral Raise
2x12 30lb
8. Db Front Raise
3x12 30lb

Good workout. Shoulders and upper chest are destroyed ;)
 
DAY #40
EP15TANE - 45 mg
AR1MACARE PRO - 3 caps

Nearing the end of this amazing cycle sponsored by Olympus Labs. Sad to see it end. Been loving the incredible strength gains as well as nearly 20lbs of mass added to my 6'5" frame. :) Gonna start PCT on Wednesday and work on cutting for about the next 3 months to trim down and show off some of this new muscle ;) Looking forward to doing another cycle in the future .... as soon as funding allows. Considering a EP15TANE / TR3N cycle .... any thoughts on that? Thanks again Olympus Labs
 
DAY #41
EP15TANE - 45mg
AR1MACARE PRO - 3 caps

Well .... tomorrow is the last day. Didn't really have any serious side effects from this cycle until yesterday. Lethargy hit me like a truck. Damn glad it didn't happen earlier .... Just finished a Back & Biceps workout that I had to force myself through .... no energy - no drive. But I made myself do it ;)

This has been an awesome first cycle and I WILL add EP15TANE to my future cycles for sure.
Tired as hell right now .... gonna take a shower and then if I have the energy I will get back online and post tonights workout stats.
 
DAY #42
EP15TANE - 45mg
AR1MACARE PRO - 3 caps

LAST DAY ! :(

Sad to see this come to an end. Really enjoyed this cycle.
Gonna start my PCT tomorrow .... never done PCT before (this is my first cycle ever) I have Nolva (Temoxifen citrate research chem) SUP3R PCT and DAA

Any input on how I should dose all this?

I have done my research here on AM so I have a general idea of the standard PCT protocol using this mix .... just interested in more input.
 
Nolva at 20/20/10/10
SUP3R PCT at 4/4/3/3/2/1
DAA - 3grams Dailiy

Sound about right? Do I really need to do 2 weeks at 20mg of Nolva after a mild cycle like Epi ?
 
I also have a bottle of TransFORM on hand in case I need it .....
 
Ok Here is the billion dollar question ..... I am sure its been asked by every newbie before but ...... whats the best way to maintain the gains achieved during this Epi cycle? I have gained nearly 20 lbs and most of it muscle and naturally I want to keep as much of it as possible. I plan to keep my diet and training the same through PCT and not really start to work on cutting until PCT is complete and everything is back up and running smoothly. Any input on how best to keep what I worked so hard to get would be greatly appreciated ;)
 
I would also like to hear the answers to these questions being a noobie as well. Let's see if any of the more experienced members can chime in.
 
TKC432 said:
Ok Here is the billion dollar question ..... I am sure its been asked by every newbie before but ...... whats the best way to maintain the gains achieved during this Epi cycle? I have gained nearly 20 lbs and most of it muscle and naturally I want to keep as much of it as possible. I plan to keep my diet and training the same through PCT and not really start to work on cutting until PCT is complete and everything is back up and running smoothly. Any input on how best to keep what I worked so hard to get would be greatly appreciated ;)
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If you wanna keep all your muscle you must up your calories in pct, and use things to get your body working normally faster
For example
Using clomid to jump start test
Using reduce Xt to lower rising cortisol
Using an anabolic to maintain mass (can be a natural anabolic like xgels, or not natty like the sarm ostarine at 10mg) obviously the non natty way would be better for keeping gains.
If you are more worried about keeping gains than anything, upping cals and osta with a serm and other natty supps is the way to go.
 
Well I have Nolva instead of Clomid. I had assumed that these two SARMs would be similar. I have SUP3R PCT and have been told there's a cortisol blocker in there somewhere. As for the Osta....well my finances won't allow that at this point so it is what it is. I can easily keep the kcals up and the training intensity on point. Hopefully this along with the DAA and my usual supps will suffice. Got a good multi, creatine mono, BCAAs and 6lbs of whey. We shall see. If I had the funds I would've picked up some EP1C , STR3NGTH and some Osta at the big Olympus Labs sale to add to my PCT.
 
Honestly man I think you will be alright. The #1 issue is people stop eating. Increase cal (I just got off halo went from 3500 to 3900) as you do your 4 weeks pct. As for he nolva Clomid thing, they are very different. Do some reading on it to see the differences. I think Clomid is a bit overkill for an epistane run, imo. Even osta is a bit overkill for epi, imo. Not that the other stuff doesn't work, but you say you're on a tight budget. I just don't think it's necessary. I've has a friend get 21 lbs off of an epi/halo stack and keep 17 with nothing but food and an oct pct. Eat!
 
Well .... PCT Day #1 is off and running.
And Temoxifen Citrate tastes about as good as you would expect. ;)

First thing this morning :
20 mg Temoxifen (Nolva)
1 cap of SUP3R PCT
3g DAA

Weight this morning was 287.6 lbs .... starting weight 6 weeks ago was an even 270lbs ..... therefore the final count is 17.6 lbs gained on this Epi cycle. And pants fit a little looser so I have to believe that I gained mostly muscle mass.

"After" pics will be posted later today .... ;)
 
Here are some pics. Not sure if they show the progress very well ..... I am not a pro photographer.
Starting weight was 270lbs and finished at 287.6lbs. From the pics I look a little leaner than on Day 1 .... muscles feel fuller and harder and when I stand in front of the mirror I can see the added muscle mass. My legs grew as well .... mostly my quads. I will see if I can get my lady to help me out later tonight with some better pics. Until then ..... here is what I got.

Oh and Day 2 of PCT is progressing fine. Feeling pretty lethargic today .... no energy and no drive but I know that will pass as my hormone levels start to balance out and get back to normal



Before - Day #1
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During - About a week in
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After - Taken yesterday .... after 6 weeks of EP15TANE :)
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magnetrude said:
Nice progress! I can definitely see some improvement.
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Thank you.
A work in progress for sure ...
I am impressed with EP15TANE and I will use it again in the future. Until then I am gonna just keep hitting it hard, eating clean and work to trim off more of this bulk blubber. I would love to do a Epi/Tren cycle or Epi/Trest cycle ..... would be nice to keep this journey going and document the progress .... Sadly I don't see being able to afford it anytime soon ..... I am very thankful to Olympus Labs for sponsoring this log .... would love to log more of their products in the future.. ;)
 
holy sh*t you gained nice amount of weight and still tightened on stomach area, that is awesome!
I was gonna do epi with test e but after reading this i might save the test for later and do just epi for first cycle
 
dbrock504 said:
Great job! ~18lbs and went from a gut to a vague 6 pack. That's awesome man.
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Thank you. I can't wait to continue the progress. Gonna do everything I can to keep things progressing through PCT and after. Would love to do another cycle as soon as possible .... Epi/Tr3n sounds promising. Hell ... with the way Epi performed for me I would have no problem running it solo again. Great product from Olympus Labs.
 
kimpe said:
holy sh*t you gained nice amount of weight and still tightened on stomach area, that is awesome!
I was gonna do epi with test e but after reading this i might save the test for later and do just epi for first cycle
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I would just run EP15TANE from Olympus Labs if its your first cycle. This was my first cycle and I was VERY happy with how Epi performed. The guys at Olympus Labs are very helpful and can point you in the right direction .... that being said I think they will agree that EP15TANE is perfect for a first cycle g0hardorgohom
 
Well today is the start of week 2 of PCT. Other than nolva tasting like crap I have nothing negative to say about it. Feeling pretty good.
Strength has stayed about the same and I have had some VERY nice training sessions this past week. Still eating like I was on cycle so my weight has stayed about the same (Only dropped one lb so far). I figure as long as I keep eating right and hitting it as heavy if not a little heavier in the gym than I did while on cycle I should be all good. ;) Really Really Really looking forward to doing another cycle. Got the itch to try a TR3ST/EPI stack. If I could afford it I would have ordered to gear during the big Olympus Labs sale. After how well EP15TANE performed I would love to see how my progress would continue with more Olympus Labs product ....

Thanks again Olympus Labs for letting me log EP15TANE for you. IF you ever wanna sponsor another stack of your amazing products to see how much closer to a Demi-God you can get me I'm all in ;) Awesome company with awesome products that work as good if not better than they say they will. I keep hearing horror stories about guys having issues with side effects from Epi etc ..... and when I read more I always see that they chose another Epi brand rather than Olympus Labs ..... inferior product .... inferior results ..... increased risk of side effects ...... Go with the quality company and get the results you're after .... Olympus Labs ;)
 
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