First cycle need your recommendations

Mon3yMaker

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Hey guys I'm 22 yrs old and looking to take my first cycle. I had a "trainer" at the local golds gym reccomend halovar by purus labs. After doing much research it seems as though the toxicity is quite substantial. I planned on taking liver support and novedex as a pct and possible serm. First I want to be smart and ask everyones opinion. . I'm 6'2" 172 and have a pretty clean diet. . Eat lots of chicken and fish but eating breakfast is inconsistent for me which can pose a problem. Been working out seriously for about 2 yrs
 
I did H-drol for my first one and saw good results, 6' 2'' 172 huh? whats your bodyfat % around?
 
Why not just do a good old fashioned test cycle? You'll make great gains and its simple. Diet is key for cycling though, make sure you're getting massive amounts of calories.
 
you can look at any cycle really to start. just make sure you have pct set up that isnt novedex xt. nolva or clomid. period. my first cycle was phera than tren. it was a good cycle with low sides. any hdrol clone will have the same effects. no offense pyrus labs rep. but hdrol, halovar, this and that are going to net the same gains. compounds are the same. i reccomend CEL hdrol. if youre going to run an hdrol cycle.
 
6'2 172 --> NEED TO EAT. A cycle of proper calories will give you far far more gains than a Halodrol clone. Your trainer should have gone over this with you. Bulking, trying to fill out a big frame, and you're skipping breakfast! It's no good man, more meals, more calories.

Can i ask some questions
How many meals do you eat a day?
total calories? Carb/protein/fat breakdown?


i don't mean to be an ass of course but I think diet will help you far, far more than halodrol.
 
As a hardgainer that is coming off a pct soon, let me say that Unreal speaks the truth about calories. Three protein shakes a day gave me a daily base of 198 grams of protein. Add in lunch and dinner and the protein pushed between 225 to 260 grams of protein while "on." I have kept the protein to roughly 225 grams through current pct. Will keep the protein between 200 and 225 during the 8 weeks I am completely off.

Breakfast has always been a bigger carb meal for me because we can't forget those carbs. I was 148 when I started my cycle. 165 at peak and 163 halfway through pct. Keep the food intake high. I believe Unreal when he says the diet will help far far more than the ph.

Just curious, at 6'2" and 172lbs what type of sports have you played growing up. What activities other than lifting do you take part in? What do type of job do you have (ie sitting or active?) All factors to consider.
 
im a personal trainer...and i would never even think about recomending that my clients do roids. thats a ****ty trainer haha. and one with big balls who doesnt care much about his job..
 
i would say try havoc as your first cycle.im on my first cycle taking havoc and eating like a monster and im only on my second week started 30mg today and have seen really good results and gaining strength like crazy.its all in the diet tho...
 
I recommend you cycle to a new trainer, and consume everything in sight food wise(that isnt nasty like some disgusting twinkie or cupcake).

Your trainer friend needs kicked in the balls...that is if he has any and they aren't raisins from stupidity...
 
blueboy22 said:
yes, other than we have our InSLINsified complex in it.....
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Unofficial rep? EDIT: I stand corrected, I see you guys just came onto the board. My apologies. Rest is still a point though...

I remember quite a scuffle between some unofficial rep and a few members awhile back, but I cant remember who on either side.

In fact part of it was from someone who worked for the company recommending it to someone in the gym...then a slew of poo hit the fan, because the condition of the person and how the cycle was recommended.

Glad to see there is something more official to stand for the products now.
 
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