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First Cycle Log DMZ

GeneticFreak

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Hey guys I started my first cycle, I left the natty side and joined the dark side. Follow my log to see my strength and aesthetics ascend!

Stats:
Height: 5”10
Weight: 204lb
I have been working out on and off for about 6 years. Initially I was 211lb then lost 50lb and made noob gains, ever since I’ve built a solid base of muscle.

My goal is to put on 10lb of lean muscle and increase my strength. Also reduce my gut if possible. I am vascular all over my physique except for my gut. It is a trouble area but I know I can reduce it because I have done so in the past.

PH:
Hardcore Anabolics Xtreme DMZ
(32mg per day)

Supplements:
Fish oil
Vitamin E
Black Seed 100% cold pressed oil
Electrolyte Stamina (Taurine included)
L-Phenylalanine
PGX Daily singles
Coenzymated B-6
Milk Thistle
Glutamine
Osteo Bi-Flex Joint Health
Vital Reds (Polyphenols)
Force Factor (Not sure if it works but it was laying around so might as well)
MSM
NAC

PCT:
Finaflex Revolution Test

Natural Plant Supplements:
Triphala Churna
Moringa Powder

Water:
Hunza Class Alkaline water

I have been following this forum and a few others for years. All feedback and criticism is welcome.

Day 1
I took the recommend dose didn’t feel anything.. I hear kicks in around day 10.
Weight:204

Day 2
Same as above... Then hit legs and abs at the gym. Squats, leg press, leg extensions, hamstring curls, abs and then steady cardio. Cardio at 3mph flat and max incline 5 min intervals...
*I’ll be sure to write down my lift numbers starting day 5 as well as diet.*

Day 3
I took the recommended dose.. Hit back and bicep at the gym. Absolutely killed it! My endurance and strength was higher than usual had a 90 minute lift session then slow cardio and sauna.
-Beef/rice all day and protein shake

Day 4
I woke up early this morning, took the usual dose...had fried beef and quinoa.
I hit tricep, shoulders and chest at the gym. My right shoulder felt stiff after my third set of 185 on flat bench barbell. I pushed through it and had a decent workout, nothing out the norm.
Weight:207lb

*I’ll have a more detailed post tomorrow.

Looking forward to any advice or support. We’re all gonna make it brahs.
 
Honestly I wouldnt even touch DMZ, If was going to do an oral only I would Tbol (Bulking) or Var (Cutting) for long duartion, would provide similar gains but with far less sides. Anyway's how many calories are you eating? and whats your bodyfat?
 
I really enjoyed dmz with very minimal sides. I ran it 6weeks starting at 30mg and ending at 45 last 2 weeks. I know everyone reacts different but I liked it

I'm taking tbol now actually but I use test base now for cycles. Only 2 weeks in so I can't really compare the 2 yet
 
DarkWarrior said:
Honestly I wouldnt even touch DMZ, If was going to do an oral only I would Tbol (Bulking) or Var (Cutting) for long duartion, would provide similar gains but with far less sides. Anyway's how many calories are you eating? and whats your bodyfat?
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I love dmz. Lean dry gains with no sides for me. I ran it for 8 weeks at 60mg with no sides. I went from never trying 300 on bench to benching 365 in six weeks. Dmz is my favorite oral. Some people get sides with it but i never did
 
DMZ is a premium compound. It's one of my favorite orals. It can mess with your BP, lipids, and liver to a degree (it's a steroid, LOL)...but I look forward to running it again.
Subbed.
 
Awesome man, did you run it solo or stack it with anything? Not sure what OT stands for
Im really curious to see how much muscle everyone that has previously tried DMZ has gained/kept... also glad to hear no sides for you as well.
 
When I asked if I should use Nolva or Clomid for PCT, the guy at the store told me I could if I wanted but mainly I just needed the Finaflex Revolution or another PCT support. I'm not taking any ignorant risks though and really appreciate you guys pointing that out.
Can someone PM me a solid source for SERM need it for my pet gymrat.
 
GeneticFreak said:
When I asked if I should use Nolva or Clomid for PCT, the guy at the store told me I could if I wanted but mainly I just needed the Finaflex Revolution or another PCT support. I'm not taking any ignorant risks though and really appreciate you guys pointing that out.
Can someone PM me a solid source for SERM need it for my pet gymrat.
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Yeah, those guys at the store do that a lot, because they're lying d****bags who are only interested in selling you their stuff
 
DAY 5

Took regular dose as usual... I decided to take a rest day from the gym, I felt sore, tired and sleepy and ended up taking an afternoon nap.
Breakfast:
Grilled chicken, meatballs, egg whites and half a croissant
Macros - 28g Carbs, 38g Fats, 71g Protein (745 calories)

Lunch:
Sesame bun, turkey burger, pure honey, lettuce, cheese
Macros - 40g Carbs, 18g Fat, 40g Protein (490 calories)

Snack:
PB&J on 3 slices of bread, mango (513 calories)
Macros - 82g Carbs, 19g Fat, 14g Protein

Dinner:
Beef stir fry and rice
Macros - 43g Carbs, 19g Fat, 81g Protein (695 calories)

Total: 192C 92F 204P (2443 Calories)

Back in the gym tomorrow! I typically spend about 2-3 hours each day... 5-6 times a week lifting then cardio. Would I be able to hit the elliptical hard instead of always doing steady state cardio? I'm an endomorph with a gut which I'm trying to lose yet I want to maximize my gains as much as possible from this first cycle.
Everyone has their views whether medical studies, bro science or experience/ results driven on lifting, muscle building and preservation or fat loss...
Ive been following this guy on YouTube for a few months now, the channel is called Snake Diet.
His name is Cole a trainer and is pretty straight forward and will get in your face (in a good way) stating fasting is the key for fat loss and HGH
and a cure all.
Let me know what you guys thoughts are good or bad! BUT please watch his videos first then share thoughts before jumping straight in.
 
GeneticFreak said:
When I asked if I should use Nolva or Clomid for PCT, the guy at the store told me I could if I wanted but mainly I just needed the Finaflex Revolution or another PCT support. I'm not taking any ignorant risks though and really appreciate you guys pointing that out.
Can someone PM me a solid source for SERM need it for my pet gymrat.
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MA and pre are both board sponsors and have legit chems for your test subjects.... and as said most supplement store guys get some commission off certain product so they tend to push those... at least in my area.

And ya please get a serm you be safe. Just look up superdrol sides and though dmz is a bit milder, you may be susceptible to them. Better safe than sorry. Good luck bro make some gains.
 
GeneticFreak said:
When I asked if I should use Nolva or Clomid for PCT, the guy at the store told me I could if I wanted but mainly I just needed the Finaflex Revolution or another PCT support. I'm not taking any ignorant risks though and really appreciate you guys pointing that out.
Can someone PM me a solid source for SERM need it for my pet gymrat.
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Also....when you said "sore, tired, and sleepy"...it made me think of your support supplements (specifically liver). You're taking a lot of support sups man, but for next time (or even this time if you can)...I'd advise getting a good all in one on cycle supplement (you can add whatever you want extra on top of that).
And for THIS cycle, and every cycle that contains an oral steroid, I strongly suggest getting TUDCA. I'll never run orals without it again. It's the best protection you can get for your liver...and with orals, your liver needs all the help it can get.
 
Renew1 said:
Also....when you said "sore, tired, and sleepy"...it made me think of your support supplements (specifically liver). You're taking a lot of support sups man, but for next time (or even this time if you can)...I'd advise getting a good all in one on cycle supplement (you can add whatever you want extra on top of that).
And for THIS cycle, and every cycle that contains an oral steroid, I strongly suggest getting TUDCA. I'll never run orals without it again. It's the best protection you can get for your liver...and with orals, your liver needs all the help it can get.
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Good stuff. CEL Cycle assist is a great all in one product along with tucda for support.... side note: I'm sure you're not drinking on cycle but don't take tucda with alcohol of you drink while "off"

If you want a budget friendly choice at least throw in some NAC bulk.
 
GeneticFreak said:
Thats great to hear man, how much total weight did you gain from DMZ and how much did you muscle did you keep?
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Idk how much muscle i gained. I cant remember how much weight i gained but i def gained a good amount. Dmz is a great recomp agent as well. The last time i ran it (was with msten and m1a though) i didnt gain or lose any weight at all but my appearance chanhged radically
 
mawalega said:
Good stuff. CEL Cycle assist is a great all in one product along with tucda for support.... side note: I'm sure you're not drinking on cycle but don't take tucda with alcohol of you drink while "off"

If you want a budget friendly choice at least throw in some NAC bulk.
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Picked up some NAC yesterday, thanks for suggestion brah!
 
GeneticFreak said:
I have heard great things about TUDCA! Ill definitely pick some up for future use bought some NAC yesterday .
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Good man. Get that SERM beforehand, if you don't want to lose all of your gains.

I'm honestly not sure right now how much I gained, and kept. I didn't run it solo. But it really cut me up pretty good, while I was gaining muscle.
 
Great job, dmz is pretty good stuff. I’m on day 5 since my RC has some potent liquid solution dmz that I wanted to pair with Dienolone. Ok, I gotta ask though, 2-3 hours a day in the gym? With one day off? You gotta give me more info! How do you manage that??
 
Whats up everyone, its officially day 7 and the one week mark of my first cycle on DMZ! I'm a quarter of the way through super stoked and optimistic for the remainder. :fingersx:
I wasn't able to log in yesterday... But not to worry I have all the details for yesterday day 6 which you can see below. I'll add day 7 details in a new post below that.

DAY 6
I got up early around 8am took the regular dosage. I felt good from just lifting hard and diet the past few days but didnt feel anything special from the DMZ as of yet. My legs and abs workout was good but not the best I would rate it about a 7/10.
Breakfast: Carbs - 6g, Fats - 9g, Protein - 44g
*Organic brown eggs large
*Chicken breast strips
*Organic egg whites
Lunch: Carbs - 11g, Fats - 2g, Protein - 49g
*Certified grass fed whey isolate
* Beast sports chocolate protein
Dinner: Carbs - 53g, Fats - 42g, Protein - 95g
*Cream of mushroom soup
*Dry roasted Semolina
*Fried beef
dessert: Carbs - 28g, Fats - 11g, Protein - 4g
*Neapolitan ice cream
*Mini snickers
Total macros: 97C 63F 191P (1965 calories)

Legs Day Workout
Warm up:
1/4 mile max incline on treadmill @3mph
Linear leg press (100lbs starting weight) 45 x4 20 reps (280lbs)
Lets LIFT!
Squats - 135 x 10, 225 x10, 225 x 8, 185 x 8, 135 x 10
Linear leg press (100lb starting weight)
45 x 6 (370lbs) 15reps
45 x 8 (460lbs) 10 reps
45 x 10 (550lbs) 10 reps
45 x 12 (540lbs) 8 reps
45 x 10 (550lbs) 8 reps
45 x 8 (460lbs) 8 reps
45 x 6 (370lbs) 10 reps
Calves -
110 x 20 both 110 x 10 single legs
210 x 20 both 210 x 15 both 40x regular calf raises
Laying down hamstring curls -
65 x 20 110 x 15 140 x 10
Ab machine 111 reps total -
50 x 30
70 x 20
90 x 30
110 x 20
130 x 11
Ab twist machine -
Superset: Left side 50x10, 70x 10, 90x6, 110x6.... Right side the same and done
 
Day 7

I had some great sleep last night knocked out like a baby... I've been having dreams almost every single night about the most random stuff... is it because of my supplements? Anyways I looked in the mirror and noticed some subtle changes... bigger forearms possibly and more veins showing in my quads. On the other hand it could be a placebo effect hahah either way Im making gains at the gym and my endurance is through the roof so all in due time!

Breakfast: 24C 24F 24P
-Panko chicken nuggets
Lunch: 11C 2F 49P
-Certified grass fed whey isolate
-Beast sports chocolate protein
Dinner: 44C 60F 65P
-All beef franks
-Turkey burger w/ a tablespoon of honey BBQ sauce
-Organic brown eggs large
-Egg whites
-Roasted whole cashews
-Chicken noodle soup
Total Macros: 78C 86F 138P (1663 calories)

* I know I ate a couple hundred calories less than I wanted today, but its all good because tomorrow will be my bday dinner at a seafood restaurant :yumyum:

Back and Bicep Workout
.25 mile Treadmill warm up
Nautilus Pulldown -
45x2 (90lbs).... 20reps, 45x4 (180lbs)...14reps, 45x6 (270lbs)... 10reps, 45x6 + 25x2 (320lbs)... 8reps
ISO Lateral Low Row starting weight 8lbs -
45x2 (98lbs)... 20reps, 45 x4 (188lbs)..16reps, 45x4 + 25x2 (238lbs)... 8reps, 45x 4 (188lbs)...12reps, 45x 2 (98lbs)...15reps
Bicep Dumbbell Curls -
20lbs x10reps, 50lbs x6reps, 45lbs x6reps, 40lbs x10reps
Hammer Curls -
35lbs x14reps
Reverse Dumbbell Curls -
20lbs x10reps
Forearm Curls with 30lb Bar -
over hand grip x10reps, x20reps
under hand grip x20reps, x30reps
Dumbell Lawn mowers -
60lbs x10reps, 90lbs x8reps, 90lbs x8reps
Reverse Flys -
115lbs x12reps, 175lbs x8reps, 205lbs x7reps, 130lbs x15reps
Ab machine
65lbs x30reps, 95lbs x30reps, 110lbs x20reps, 140lbs x20reps

Cardio - 1.25 mile treadmill max incline at 2.5-3.5mph
I was sweating beads like crazy during my workout and my endurance has improved big time... Today felt like childs play at the gym.
Felt great the whole workout...the pump was so big at one point during forearms I couldn’t even type on my phone and had to let my left arm hang down for a few minutes.
 
Matthersby said:
Great job, dmz is pretty good stuff. I’m on day 5 since my RC has some potent liquid solution dmz that I wanted to pair with Dienolone. Ok, I gotta ask though, 2-3 hours a day in the gym? With one day off? You gotta give me more info! How do you manage that??
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That’s great bro, always excited to see another’s DMZ log and experience! I love working out weights, cardio, sauna... usually one day off if I’m lucky 2 days off if unlucky lol. 2-3 hours isn’t too bad for me... I used to go twice a day during college. But I always try to lift heavy so I take a good minute or 3 between sets and steady cardio is pretty easy.
 
DAY 8

Here's my entry for day 8, I keep a log saved in my phone and just transfer it the next few days after onto here...
Took the usual dose that I have been taking thus far... I hit the gym long and hard. I was wearing a tank and definitely had some boulder shoulder action going on my arms were looking bigger, super tight and swole! When I got home I looked at the mirror and realized I have a new addition of veins, spiderweb action going on all through out my left triceps towards the elbow... Sweet!
My physique is adapting so well, its like icing on the cake...glad I trained for so many years and had a good base to mold from before finally starting my first cycle

Breakfast:
Panko chicken nuggets
Lunch:
Aunt Jemima Pancakes
Dinner:
White basmati rice w/ coconut curry chicken,
Snacks:
Beast sports chocolate protein, Certified grass fed whey isolate, Lays potato chips
MACROS: 190C 58F 150P (1,891 calories)

Tricep and Chest Workout:

Warmup - 1/4mile treadmill @3.5mph

Flat Bench Press (no spotter)
135x11, 185x6, 185x6, 185x6, 135x10 (wide grip last set)
*Right shoulder hurt at this point was stiff for some reason so stopped and moved on...
Incline Bench Press - 135x11.... That was enough haha really started hurting my shoulder at this point...No more bench for today.

Iso Lateral Decline Press (start weight 6lbs)... Instead of writing how many plates loaded I'll just put total weight times reps.
96lbs x 20 reps, 186lbs x 12 reps, 236lbs x 8 reps, 276lbs x 8 reps, 186lbs x 10 reps
Dual Cable Cross Low to High Flys (L&R lbs each)
50lbs x 20 reps, 80lbs x 10 reps, 100lbs x 10 reps, 120lbs x 8 reps
Nautilus Seated Dip
80lbs x 20 reps, 140 x 20 reps
Hammer Strength Seated Dip
90lbs x 20 reps, 180lbs x 10 reps, 230lbs x 8 reps, 180lbs x 10 reps, 180lbs x 10 reps
Dumbbell Triceps Extension
35lbs x 40 each arm
Done...
 
DAY 9

Took the regular dose as usual.... I went out and bought some MSM last night to take in addition with my Glucosamine and I think its doing wonders. I can feel a dramatic difference from yesterdays painful shoulders and I don't feel any pain or stiffness today. I took today off from the gym and decided to have a rest and re-feed day.

Breakfast: Organic egg whites, organic brown eggs large, southwest chicken breast strips, all beef franks
Lunch: Turkey burger w/ romaine lettuce
Dinner: Fried Catfish, fried shrimp, stuffed crab, salmon,scallops, peppers and onions skewers and half a slice of praline cheesecake
MACROS (pre-dinner): 14C 47F 108P (945 calories) .... Post dinner I have no clue lmao probably 2500-3000 calories? Macros no idea...
 
DAY 10

DAY 10 is here, the magic number that everyone says they start seeing results! I started to see results as early as day 8 but its getting even better now.
I ran my usual dosage along with all my other support supplements. I felt pretty good, I noticed that my body has been rock solid for the past 5 days as far as movement wise. I was blown away at the gym today..... I think the hulk in me is starting to come out hahah! There was some fear at the start of my workout because I didn't want to over do anything but I let loose after my couple sets of squats were done.

Lunch: Mashed potatoes, Italian style chicken breast, Alfredo chicken pasta
Dinner: Beast sports chocolate protein
Snacks: Bananna
MACROS: 156C 48F 174P (1766 Calories)

Legs and Abs Workout

Warm up - 1/4 mile treadmill

Squats - 135lbs x10, 185lbs x10, 225lbs x8, 185lbs x10, 135lbs x10
Linear Leg Press (start weight 103lbs)
283lbs x10, 463lbs x10, 643lbs x8, 733lbs x8, 553lbs x8, 373lbs x12

*The last few sets on the curl,raise,extensions and calf below are what I'm surprised by...
Hamstring Leg Curl
80lbs x12, 125lbs x10, 155lbs x10, 170lbs x6 ... wtfff
Calf Raise (starting weight 95lbs)
145lbs x30, 185lbs x30, 235lbs x20 ... not bad but I've done this before
Leg Extensions
105lbs x20, 150lbs x12, ...too easy 255lbs x20 ... wtfff
Horizontal Calf
20 regular, 110lbs x20, 170lbs x 20, 210lbs x20, 270lbs x20, 310lbs x16 ... wtfff
Ab Machine
70lbs x50, 90lbs x20, 110lbs x10, 130lbs x10, 150lbs x10, 150lbs x20, 130lbs x10, 110lbs x 10, 90lbs x10
Torso Rotation (both sides)
70lbs x15, 90lbs x10, 110lbs x10, 130lbs x10, 150lbs x10, 110lbs x 20
 
Day 11

Quick run through... Maintained regular dose kept protein an carbs high... worked out chest and Triceps. My strength has definitely increased and I’m tapping into a new found power.

Tricep,Chest, Shoulders
Flat bench press
135x10, 185x10, easily 185x8, 185x5, 135x10
Shoulder Press
40x10, 70x7, 60x10, 60x9, 50x11
ISO lateral decline press
90x20, 180x10, 180x8, 270x7,
270x8, 180x7, 90x20
Tricep overhead Pulldown
42.5lbs x20, 42.5lbs x15,
80lbs x6, 65lbs x10, 50lbs x15,
Cable cross chest
30x25, 50x25, 80x15, 100x10
Hammer Strength Seated Dip
90x30, 180x14, 230x10, 230x9, 180x12, 90x30
Chest Flys
115x12, 175x8. 175x10 single arms interesting... 60x10, 175x8
Ab machine
80x50, 110x30, 125x30, 140x10, 155x10, 165x10, 110x10
 
Day 12

Took regular dose of DMZ. I can see my arms have gained mass and more veins.
Today was a cheat day lol but I stayed under 2500 calories.
Worked out legs and abs

Legs and Abs
.25 mile treadmill warmup
Squats
135x12, 225x8, 245x7, 225x6, 135x10
Angled Leg Press
45x6....10, 45x10.....10, 45x12....6,
45x8..... 12
Back Extension
130x14, 175x10, 235x10, 265x10
Leg Curl
80x14, 110x10, 140x10, 155x6,
Calf machine
20 regular, 30lbs x50, 120lbs x35, 180lbs x20, 220lbs x14,
260lbs x30
Leg extension
110x15, 200x8, 245x16
Ab machine
95x60, 110x30, 125x10
Treadmill Max incline intervals. 40min
Elliptical 1 mile

Pulled my Quad muscle at the top or stretched it... it hurts when I go up stairs will give it a few days and try to avoid squats for a bit.
 
Day 13

I felt really tired and groggy at the gym today. I think it’s because I have been hitting the gym hard 6-7 days a weeks straight. Still managed to push through today and destroy Back and Bicep day.
MACROS - 203P 203C 50F 2500 calories

Back and Bicep
Warmup .25 mile
Lat Pull down - 90x 20, 180x11, 270x10, 360x6, 320x7, 270x9, 180x12
ISO lateral Low Row
90x20, 180x8, 270x6, 270x6, 180x10, 90x22
Bicep Curls
20x15, 50x7, 50x7, 45x6,
Lawnmowers
60x10, 90x10, 100x10, 100x10
Forearm curls
30x30, 15x40
Reverse Flys
130x10, 205x8, 85x15 single arms
 
It takes me about 90 minutes to 120 minutes to finish my Lift sessions now. I feel like I can lift forever.
What amount of time do you guys average on gear or not on gear?
 
DAY 14

Same dose as usual.... Killled my workout!!!!! Today was chest, shoulders and tricep day. My max bench was around 230/40 for one rep, I had never attempted repping out a set or few of 225 until today did it easily Great power and chest pump.


Tricep and Chest
.25mile warmup
Flat bench
135x12, 185x6, 225x5 (spotter), 225x5 spot 185x7, 185x7.... first 2 were pause reps on chest! 135x
Shoulder press
60x10. 60x8. 70x4. 50x12
ISO lateral decline press
90x15, 180x10, 270x6. 230x8
180x 12, 90x15
Chest Flys single arm
115x12, 175x10 205x8 220x7
Tricep extensions cable
42.5 x12, 65x8, 80x6, 42.5x18 O/U, 50x10, 65x12, 80x8
Dumbbell extension
15x12, 35x6, 25x10, 25x8,
Rotators dumbbell
15x30, 25x20
Smith machine Shrugs
90x20, 180x20, 230x8, 180x8, 90x25
Delt raises
10x30, 30x6
Shrugs
90x20
Seated Dip
105x14, 165x10, 210x10, 225x6
Ab machine
50x20, 70x20, 90x20, 110x20, 130x12, 130x8, 150x11
Treadmill .75mile
Balanced body

Lifted for 2 hours... what do you guys think of my volume and increase in sets and reps?
 
Day 16

I was pretty tired from yesterday’s cheat day. I had a few drinks and it was not worth it... First drink I’ve had all cycle long. Because of that today’s workout was mediocre or at least not as explosive as I expected it to be.

Back and Bicep Workout
1/4 mile walk
Lat Pull Down
90x20, 180x12, 270x8, 320x6, 320x6, 270x10, 180x10, 90x12
ISO lateral Low Row
90x15, 180x10, 270x7, 270x6, 270x6, 180x8, 90x20
Bicep Curls
15x30, 50x7, 50x6, 50x6, 30x12, 30x16
Lawn Mowers
60x10, 100x10, 100x8, 110x6
Reverse flys
100x30
Cable cross reverse flys
40x20, 80x12, 120x7, 100x8
Bicep rope curls
32.5x15, 52.5x9
Bicep burnout
85x10, 75x8, 65x6, 55x6, 45x10
Treadmill max incline for 15min
 
daxiang said:
Any increase in hunger? Or issues with hydration/urination? Keep up the good work.
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I think my hunger has been decreased since I started. I have to plan and time extra meals to make sure I’m getting around 170+ protein and carbs. Hydration wise, I noticed I sweat 5x more in the gym... literally sweat falling from my face all over the floor. But I’m making sure my urine stays on the lighter side.
 
GeneticFreak said:
I think my hunger has been decreased since I started. I have to plan and time extra meals to make sure I’m getting around 170+ protein and carbs. Hydration wise, I noticed I sweat 5x more in the gym... literally sweat falling from my face all over the floor. But I’m making sure my urine stays on the lighter side.
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Have you noticed any increased heart rate on the dmz?
 
YoungThor said:
Are you seeing physique changes already?
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I feel I was seeing rapid physique changes literally overnight. My arms are bigger more veins on my Bis and Tris, slightly bigger chest.... progress has kind of slowed down. My weight is 209lbs... Honestly I was thinking about upping the dose to 45mg (one extra pill) for this last 2 weeks. What do you all think?
 
GeneticFreak said:
I feel I was seeing rapid physique changes literally overnight. My arms are bigger more veins on my Bis and Tris, slightly bigger chest.... progress has kind of slowed down. My weight is 209lbs... Honestly I was thinking about upping the dose to 45mg (one extra pill) for this last 2 weeks. What do you all think?
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I don’t know dmz dosages so I can’t comment on that but I’m curious to see how this turns out. So it’s only a 4 week cycle then? Why so short? Hepatoxicity?
 
It’s usually a 4 week cycle, however I’ve seen people run it for 6 weeks. I’m going to go a few days over 30, I’ll maybe stop at 35 days. 30-45mg is standard dose, I was hoping to get some feedback from people who did DMZ just to see their experience and see how much of a difference it made.
 
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