FIRST CYCLE AAS --- Test-E 500mg 12 weeks with a 4 week SD kicker!!!
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Lynck
Member
Day 61 Thursday 2/9/12
Week 9
Weight: 200lbs
I have had food poisoning to the point of literally throwing up and ****ting myself over 100 times within a few days. Very sick. But im almost back to normal now. Very scary. I lost 8lbs between being bed ridden and throwing up for two days.
Shoulders abs and cardio
Cardio
Bike for 12 minutes
Bb military press
95-8
115-8
145-8
155-7
160-7
Side lateral db raises
12-15
20-15
20-13
20-12
Upright rows: 21s: close middle wide
45-21
50-21
50-21
Laying rear delt db raise fst-7
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-13
12-13
Weighted decline setups
25lbs-20
25lbs-15
25lbs-15
Supersetted with
Seated calf raises
90-20
90-20
90-20
Week 9
Weight: 200lbs
I have had food poisoning to the point of literally throwing up and ****ting myself over 100 times within a few days. Very sick. But im almost back to normal now. Very scary. I lost 8lbs between being bed ridden and throwing up for two days.
Shoulders abs and cardio
Cardio
Bike for 12 minutes
Bb military press
95-8
115-8
145-8
155-7
160-7
Side lateral db raises
12-15
20-15
20-13
20-12
Upright rows: 21s: close middle wide
45-21
50-21
50-21
Laying rear delt db raise fst-7
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-15
12-13
12-13
Weighted decline setups
25lbs-20
25lbs-15
25lbs-15
Supersetted with
Seated calf raises
90-20
90-20
90-20
Lynck
Member
Day 63 Saturday 2/11/12
Week 10
Weight: ??
Cardio back and biceps
Cardio
Bike for 6 minutes
Back
Medium grip reverse pulldowns
96-10
120-10
132-10
144-8
Wide grip lat pulldowns
96-8
84-10
84-10
96-9
One arm bent db row
75-8
75-8
75-8
75-8
Romanian deadlifts
135-10
185-14
185-12
165-14
Biceps
Hammer db curls
20-10
25-19
25-18
25-17
Preacher curl machine
36-8
36-16
36-16
36-16
Standing ez bar curls
50-10
45-14
45-16
45-16
Cardio
Bike for 5 minutes
Week 10
Weight: ??
Cardio back and biceps
Cardio
Bike for 6 minutes
Back
Medium grip reverse pulldowns
96-10
120-10
132-10
144-8
Wide grip lat pulldowns
96-8
84-10
84-10
96-9
One arm bent db row
75-8
75-8
75-8
75-8
Romanian deadlifts
135-10
185-14
185-12
165-14
Biceps
Hammer db curls
20-10
25-19
25-18
25-17
Preacher curl machine
36-8
36-16
36-16
36-16
Standing ez bar curls
50-10
45-14
45-16
45-16
Cardio
Bike for 5 minutes
Lynck
Member
Day 64 Sunday 2/12/12
Week 10
Weight: 201lbs
Im still doing good. Im dissapointed with the mass I have put on on this cycle. It hasn't been much. Partly because I have been sick 4 out of the 10 weeks of the cycle. I am happy other than that. Strength has been great...and sides have literally been zero besides acne and being horny. Well see how the last 3 weeks are....and then the addition of 11-oxo and SD at the end before pct.
Cardio chest abs and triceps
Chest
Flat db press
55-10
60-10
75-9
75-8
Flat db fly
25-10
40-10
40-9
Incline cable fly
36-10
48-9
48-9
Dropset
36-6
High pulley cable crossovers
36-10
60-8
48-10
Dropset
36-10
Triceps
Tricep cable pushdown
36-10
36-20
48-18
Dropset
36-10
Reverse cable pushdown
24-10
24-18
36-18
Dropset
24-9
GIANT SET
Head smacker
45-7
60-7
60-7
Skullcrusher
45-7
60-7
60-7
Rocker
45-7
60-7
60-7
Abs
Rotary torso machine
90-15 each side
90-15 each side
90-15 each side
Cardio
Bike
2 minutes
Week 10
Weight: 201lbs
Im still doing good. Im dissapointed with the mass I have put on on this cycle. It hasn't been much. Partly because I have been sick 4 out of the 10 weeks of the cycle. I am happy other than that. Strength has been great...and sides have literally been zero besides acne and being horny. Well see how the last 3 weeks are....and then the addition of 11-oxo and SD at the end before pct.
Cardio chest abs and triceps
Chest
Flat db press
55-10
60-10
75-9
75-8
Flat db fly
25-10
40-10
40-9
Incline cable fly
36-10
48-9
48-9
Dropset
36-6
High pulley cable crossovers
36-10
60-8
48-10
Dropset
36-10
Triceps
Tricep cable pushdown
36-10
36-20
48-18
Dropset
36-10
Reverse cable pushdown
24-10
24-18
36-18
Dropset
24-9
GIANT SET
Head smacker
45-7
60-7
60-7
Skullcrusher
45-7
60-7
60-7
Rocker
45-7
60-7
60-7
Abs
Rotary torso machine
90-15 each side
90-15 each side
90-15 each side
Cardio
Bike
2 minutes
Lynck
Member
Day 71 2/18/12
Start of week 11!!!
Weight: ??
I am officially out of test. So it was a 10 week run of test. SD at 20mg and 11-sterone at 375mg started today for two weeks. Then pct.
Cardio chest triceps and abs
Cardio
Bike for 3 minutes
Chest
Bb flat bench
135-8
145-8
160-8
190-8
210-8
235-7
250-4
Decline bb bench
185-8
185-7
175-7
Drop set
155-4
145-3
135-4
Incline bb bench
135-8
155-6
Dropset
135-2
Cable crossovers
48-12
60-10
Dropset
48-6
Triceps
Skullcrushers
45-12
55-12
55-12
Supersetted with
Bent arm bb pullovers
45-10
55-10
55-10
Seated db tricep press
60-12
50-12
50-11
50-11
50-11
Bench dips
Dropset
Bw-8
Bw-8
Bw-8 + 4 partial
Start of week 11!!!
Weight: ??
I am officially out of test. So it was a 10 week run of test. SD at 20mg and 11-sterone at 375mg started today for two weeks. Then pct.
Cardio chest triceps and abs
Cardio
Bike for 3 minutes
Chest
Bb flat bench
135-8
145-8
160-8
190-8
210-8
235-7
250-4
Decline bb bench
185-8
185-7
175-7
Drop set
155-4
145-3
135-4
Incline bb bench
135-8
155-6
Dropset
135-2
Cable crossovers
48-12
60-10
Dropset
48-6
Triceps
Skullcrushers
45-12
55-12
55-12
Supersetted with
Bent arm bb pullovers
45-10
55-10
55-10
Seated db tricep press
60-12
50-12
50-11
50-11
50-11
Bench dips
Dropset
Bw-8
Bw-8
Bw-8 + 4 partial
Lynck
Member
Day 72 Sunday 2/19/12
Week 11
SD 20mg
11-OXO 375mg
Holy ****!!! Its like I can instantly feel the sd working. Its crazy. The sd pump is unlike anything.
Weight: 204.6lbs (+10.6lbs)
Back and biceps
Back
Wide grip front lat pulldowns
84-12
96-12
108-10
120-7
Dropset
96-6
Bent bb row
135-12
155-10
155-10
185-6
Dropset
135-8
Close grip lat pulldowns
108-12
132-9
132-7
120-9
Dropset
96-5
Tbar rows
90-6
90-6
90-6
Dropset
45-10
Biangular lat pulldown machine
96-10
96-8
96-7
Dropset
84-7
Biceps
Preacher curl machine triple drop sets
72-9
60-8
48-7
36-6
72-10
60-7
48-6
36-5
72-7
60-5
48-3
36-3
Standing db hammer curls
30-14
30-14
30-14
Dropset
20-14
Week 11
SD 20mg
11-OXO 375mg
Holy ****!!! Its like I can instantly feel the sd working. Its crazy. The sd pump is unlike anything.
Weight: 204.6lbs (+10.6lbs)
Back and biceps
Back
Wide grip front lat pulldowns
84-12
96-12
108-10
120-7
Dropset
96-6
Bent bb row
135-12
155-10
155-10
185-6
Dropset
135-8
Close grip lat pulldowns
108-12
132-9
132-7
120-9
Dropset
96-5
Tbar rows
90-6
90-6
90-6
Dropset
45-10
Biangular lat pulldown machine
96-10
96-8
96-7
Dropset
84-7
Biceps
Preacher curl machine triple drop sets
72-9
60-8
48-7
36-6
72-10
60-7
48-6
36-5
72-7
60-5
48-3
36-3
Standing db hammer curls
30-14
30-14
30-14
Dropset
20-14
Lynck
Member
Day 74 Tuesday 2/21/12
Weight: 204.8lbs (+10.8)
Shoulders
Behind neck military bb press
115-8
135-8
145-8
155-6
160-5
One arm on shoulder press machine
50-8
50-10
50-10
Dropset
30-9
Front db raise
15-16 each arm
15-16 each arm
15-14 each arm
Supersetted with
Side db raise
15-5 each arm
15-5 each arm
15-4 each arm
Db shrug machine
180-12
180-20
270-10
270-10
Dropset
180-9
Rear delt machine FST-7
90-16
90-12
70-12
50-14
50-14
50-14
50-14
Weight: 204.8lbs (+10.8)
Shoulders
Behind neck military bb press
115-8
135-8
145-8
155-6
160-5
One arm on shoulder press machine
50-8
50-10
50-10
Dropset
30-9
Front db raise
15-16 each arm
15-16 each arm
15-14 each arm
Supersetted with
Side db raise
15-5 each arm
15-5 each arm
15-4 each arm
Db shrug machine
180-12
180-20
270-10
270-10
Dropset
180-9
Rear delt machine FST-7
90-16
90-12
70-12
50-14
50-14
50-14
50-14
Lynck
Member
Day 75 2/22/12 Wednesday
Weight: 204.8 (+10.8)
Arms
Alternating db curls
25-50
25-40
25-30
25-20
Supersetted
Skullcrushers
45-50
45-40
45-30
45-20
Concentrated db curls each arm
25-18
25-14
25-10
Flat close grip bb bench press
135-18
135-14
135-12
Cable curls
100-10
100-10
Cable bar pushdowns
70-16
70-14
Weight: 204.8 (+10.8)
Arms
Alternating db curls
25-50
25-40
25-30
25-20
Supersetted
Skullcrushers
45-50
45-40
45-30
45-20
Concentrated db curls each arm
25-18
25-14
25-10
Flat close grip bb bench press
135-18
135-14
135-12
Cable curls
100-10
100-10
Cable bar pushdowns
70-16
70-14
Lynck
Member
Day 78 2/25/13 Saturday
Week 12
11-OXO 600mg
SD 30mg
Weight: 203.6lbs (+9.6lbs)
Cardio abs chest and triceps
Cardio
Bike for 3 mins
Abs
Ab machine
132-50
150-50
Chest
Bench machine
80-12
80-12
80-12
Flat bb bench press
135-8
145-8
165-8
195-8
215-8
235-4
250-4
275-1
Decline bb bench
135-19
185-5
200-6
215-4
Incline bb bench
135-10
135-7
135-6
135- 6
Pec deck machine
130-20
150-12
150-12
Dropset
130-6
Triceps
Overhead db tricep press
60-14
70-8
70-7
70-7
Close grip bb bench press
65-12
65-12
65-12
Supersetted with
Bb skullcrushers
65-7
65-7
65-7
Cambered bar pulldown
60-16
84-14
96-10
Week 12
11-OXO 600mg
SD 30mg
Weight: 203.6lbs (+9.6lbs)
Cardio abs chest and triceps
Cardio
Bike for 3 mins
Abs
Ab machine
132-50
150-50
Chest
Bench machine
80-12
80-12
80-12
Flat bb bench press
135-8
145-8
165-8
195-8
215-8
235-4
250-4
275-1
Decline bb bench
135-19
185-5
200-6
215-4
Incline bb bench
135-10
135-7
135-6
135- 6
Pec deck machine
130-20
150-12
150-12
Dropset
130-6
Triceps
Overhead db tricep press
60-14
70-8
70-7
70-7
Close grip bb bench press
65-12
65-12
65-12
Supersetted with
Bb skullcrushers
65-7
65-7
65-7
Cambered bar pulldown
60-16
84-14
96-10
Lynck
Member
Day 79 Sunday 2/26/12
Weight: 206.2lbs (+12.2lbs)
Week 12
SD 30mg
11-OXO 600mg
Back and biceps
Back
Biangular lat pulldown machine
96-12
108-12
120-12
Dropset
96-10
Smith machine bent rows
135-14
135-12
155-10
175-8
Dropset
135-10
Wide grip front lat pulldowns
96-12
108-7
108-7
Dropset
84-10
Tbar rows
45-12
55-10
65-9
75-7
Dropset
45-7
Close grip lat pulldown
120-7
120-7
132-4
Dropset
108-4
Biceps
Preacher curl machine triple dropsets
84-12
72-8
60-6
48-4
84-7
72-4
60-3
48-3
84-8
72-3
60-3
48-3
Hammer db curls
25-20
25-20
30-14
30-12
Dropset
25-12
Weight: 206.2lbs (+12.2lbs)
Week 12
SD 30mg
11-OXO 600mg
Back and biceps
Back
Biangular lat pulldown machine
96-12
108-12
120-12
Dropset
96-10
Smith machine bent rows
135-14
135-12
155-10
175-8
Dropset
135-10
Wide grip front lat pulldowns
96-12
108-7
108-7
Dropset
84-10
Tbar rows
45-12
55-10
65-9
75-7
Dropset
45-7
Close grip lat pulldown
120-7
120-7
132-4
Dropset
108-4
Biceps
Preacher curl machine triple dropsets
84-12
72-8
60-6
48-4
84-7
72-4
60-3
48-3
84-8
72-3
60-3
48-3
Hammer db curls
25-20
25-20
30-14
30-12
Dropset
25-12
Lynck
Member
Day 82 Wednesday
SD 30mg
11-oxo 600mg
Weight: 205lbs (+ 11)
Arms
Bb incline close grip
135-10
135-11
155-8
165-5
Superset
Incline db curls
30-10
30-10
30-10
30-10
Bb skullcrushers
65-14
75-10
85-10
85-8
Superset
Concentrated db curls
25-14
35-10
35-8
35-8
Triceps extension macbkns
72-24
Preacher curl machine
42-24
SD 30mg
11-oxo 600mg
Weight: 205lbs (+ 11)
Arms
Bb incline close grip
135-10
135-11
155-8
165-5
Superset
Incline db curls
30-10
30-10
30-10
30-10
Bb skullcrushers
65-14
75-10
85-10
85-8
Superset
Concentrated db curls
25-14
35-10
35-8
35-8
Triceps extension macbkns
72-24
Preacher curl machine
42-24
xigotmailx
Well-known member
An incredible read so far! Love how you decided to SD the last 2 weeks at 30mg, absolutely my favorite PH hands down. I'm looking into getting down on some AAS so your thread has helped me a whole bunch!
NuclearLaunch
Active member
xigotmailx said:
Yeah I don't feel like I'm far off either. On my second ph cycle right now, but the dark side is calling.
xigotmailx
Well-known member
Haha, SD just works so well with my body, not sure if i'd need to yet. After going through this entire thread though, i'm almost about to pull out the CC to order some SD lol....no need to pull out the CC i've memorized that ****
morry
Well-known member
Got it, I'll offer you some advice.
SD gains are hard to keep. Very hard. It also shuts you down more than test would by itself.
This protocol is going to make your PCT very, very difficult and your gains in these last few weeks almost impossible to keep. If it were me, I wouldn't discontinue the SD, but I would run the test out another few weeks. That way your body has more time to solidify the gains and believe it or not, you will recover faster coming off of just test than the two put together.
A low dose of test could be used, maybe 250 mg a week for a couple more weeks or longer. 2-4 weeks of test isn't going to hurt you and will allow for a better recovery and better chances to keep the gains.
I'm just speaking from my own experience. Everybody is a little different, but if you could extend this, I would.
I'm not telling you to drop the SD although if I didn't have any more test, at this point, I would. You won't keep the gains and your PCT is going to be sh1tty if you don't. Hopefully, you have more test and you can just run it a bit longer.
Just my .02
xigotmailx
Well-known member
I would have to disagree. The first time I did SD I went from 180-192 in the month, didn't even know what a PCT was....didn't know what PH's were either, just an ignorant kid that didn't know. I kept all of my gains and continued to gain weight after wards. I'm sure it all depends on your body
fueledpassion
Well-known member
+1. If you eat like crap and have a large percentage of processed foods in your diet (and most bb'ers do) then yes, SD gains will be watery and hard to keep. However, if your diet is clean (no processed foods) and you eat 250-500 kCals over maintenance then SD gains are quite dry and solid. Granted, the difference between the gains from those diets might be 10lbs. For instance, I personally expect 5-7lb gains running 20mg SD for 2-3 weeks. That's it! But I keep 4-5lbs of those gains, too.
Even better, SD used to kickstart or ending a cycle is ideal IMO and can offer gains that are kept if diet and PCT are perfect. It takes practice getting the right stuff and doses down in PCT since everyone is different. This holds true even more so for diets. Everything takes practice.
Also, a simple solution to the above problem with running SD while the test clears is to take hCG shots 250iu's twice weekly during this clearing period. This allows you to run an oral, let the test clear from your blood, and gradually start your LH activity up again just before PCT making your pituitary system primed and ready for Clomid therapy. Have your cake and eat it too.
xigotmailx
Well-known member
Finally!!! Someone who isn't a tool willing to argue their point just to not look wrong. I appreciate it good sir! What you just said is spot on. Most of the friends that go on cycle will gain about 15-20 pounds on SD, cause I suggest it religiously. Nothing else works better for me, but they end up eating whatever they want. So out of say 20 pounds, after PCT is over they'll retrain maybe what you said 5-7 pounds, which I think is hilarious.
The latter part of your post is spot on as well. I can't wait till I decide to get into actual gear, there will be no denying that i'll be using SD as a kicker *the stuff was made for my body*. I have a weird metabolism, where I can stay the same weight eating around 1500cals but won't start gaining until around 3k. PCT of course is a different story as well, my friend vomited his face off taking torem but felt great when I switched him over to clomid I had left from a previous cycle. I'm gonna stop talking now, just had coffee and i'm all wired
The latter part of your post is spot on as well. I can't wait till I decide to get into actual gear, there will be no denying that i'll be using SD as a kicker *the stuff was made for my body*. I have a weird metabolism, where I can stay the same weight eating around 1500cals but won't start gaining until around 3k. PCT of course is a different story as well, my friend vomited his face off taking torem but felt great when I switched him over to clomid I had left from a previous cycle. I'm gonna stop talking now, just had coffee and i'm all wired
fueledpassion
Well-known member
Your welcome anytime, lol. I have to say that I also have a "weird" metabolism. 1500-1800cals/daily is enough to maintain and 2500+ seems to put on weight but slowly for me. I've been on cycle now for almost 10 weeks and have gained 12lbs and that's with enough Test and EQ to put some pep in a racing horse!
I don't get the sides folks are talking about with SD. I also take UDCA with it since I have personally found nothing better for my liver and cholesterol, yet. SD just gets me big, lol. I get massive looking and tight on SD and with outstanding pumps too. I like it better than Phera too because it doesn't give me high blood pressure.
xigotmailx
Well-known member
Apologies to the OP for thread jacking lol. As for your "weird" metabolism, I would consider that normal for 5'4" 160'ish lol. Only side I got with SD was 2 days of not wanting to talk to people and extreme tightness on my right shin *felt like the skin was going to rip*. As soon as I have a job *knowing I got money to spend* i'm getting a 4 week cycle of SD going on. Luckily for PCT I still have a bottle of SARMS MK2866 leftover, so i'm interested to see how that helps with the PCT. I've ran it solo before, so if I decide to dirty bulk on SD, and switch to clean during PCT i'm figuring i'd keep the weight gained and trim the fat. Basically the fastest way I figure to gain 15-20 pounds and recomp keeping around the same weight +/- 5 pounds