Thanks Guys. Seeing the progress pics next to eachother definitely helps. I can see a change in the mid section for sure. I will keep proceeding as I have been. I may even be able to expidite the process now that the family has left and I can really focus on nutrition.
I slept like a rock last night no sweats or unbroken sleep. The G8 did its job perfectly as well leaving me with a sense of elevated mood this morning...quite honestly I probably could of slept until noon...damn work ha! I feel a lot lighter today as well...not weighed down by food or extra water which is nice. I enjoy the empty feeling during fasting I even looked a lot leaner as opposed to the pics from last night (I ate a ton right before the shots). I would like to take pictures in the a.m. but theres is no damn way my girl is getting out of bed that early for pictures!!
mattrag said:any crazy a*s dreams?
packers6211 said:Nice on the db bench declines brother green!! I'm so freaking glad your back. The forums just wasn't the same with out around.
LiveToLift said:sweet set up on the log bro, and love the detail! I see why people were excited to see ya back! :afro:
TurningGreen said:Day 17
Not much new going on today. Hunger is back up during fasting hours especially the few before the break. I am considerably sore especially in my abs (awesome) and my shoulders (from the T-Cups). I did not make it to the gym today because we had to hang artwork for our county wide school art show (which is this weekend) and I didn't leave the location until 1815. By the time I left I was fugging starved so I just went home and ate! Hitting the weights tomorrow and looking forward to it! I can say that this week of near perfect calories and macros has made a huge difference in my recomp. I can see a noticeable difference in fat reduction already from last week, and my weight is staying at a steady 215lb. Id say the addition of 550-XD is really starting to shine!
Training
Rest Day
Nutrition
1,977 calories
Fat: 74.3g (34%)
Carbohydrate: 90.6g (18%)
Protein: 233.8g (48%)
Man... I had to stop my current cycle hopefully the current problem goes away, and I can jump on another cycle ASAP.
Looking like this might be the next go to.![]()
LiveToLift said:Sorry to hear matt! No log this time?
mattrag said:Nah, can't keep up here lol. I've been busy lately. Might post my pct log. Not so sure yet.
Keep killing it TG!
mattbaseball said:anybody know why my lower back is super tight/hurting while on EPI...taking 5 pills a day and its right above my butt in the middle
anybody know why my lower back is super tight/hurting while on EPI...taking 5 pills a day and its right above my butt in the middle
Green... based on our conversations I'm pretty darn sure he is talking about FINAFLEX EPI-V, which is a completely different animal than Epistane!
Matt... The only thing I can really think of is our EPI-V is known for really drying you out, hence why DW is always bragging about it and complaining how he should have used it to peak on, as in came in at his biggest, heaviest, and DRYest, all at the same time. Anyway, along with looking fantastic, drying out can cause joint pains, especially ones where there are already pre-disposed areas of injury or pain, that is really the only thing I can think of, I mean that and as a CHIRO, I can tell you that the L5/Sacrum (exact place/joint/articulation you are describing where your pain is) is one of the most unstable joints in the body because it has the highest weight bearing load. Lets put it this way most humans are 2/3 weight in the upper body and 1/3 weight in the lower body, well that one joint/articulation is holding up 2/3 of your body weight at almost all times of the day, only getting relieve when you are laying down, even then, certain angles still put some pressure/weight bearing on it, just to kind of give you an idea!
Are you talking about Epi-V? or Epistane? Have you been doing Deadlifts?
mattbaseball said:EPI-v....I did DB deadlifts 4 sets of 10 with 65's. Real light just to hit them quick. This was Monday so it can't be that.
Drying out makes sense bc I have dropped 3-4 lbs in less then a week and I forgot Epi is a cutter and pulls out water.
That would be my guess with Epi-V. I can't say I had any joint problems on cycle though. What support supplements are you taking? Try some omega fatty acids or some super cissus...lube them joints up.
mattbaseball said:I am and have been on a high amount of fish oil, D3, multivitamin, and PCT black every night. I have not had any other feelings of drying out besides in this location. Knees are sometimes achy but not bad at all.
I will have to look into super cissus. Interested what Doc recommends. Thanks guys
That would be my guess with Epi-V. I can't say I had any joint problems on cycle though. What support supplements are you taking? Try some omega fatty acids or some super cissus...lube them joints up.
Agreed... Omega 3-6-9's, MSM, Chondroitin, Glucosamine, & Super Cissus. All incredible for joint aid, assist, and ease!!!
Unfortunately it is the name of the game here... to get one positive effect, you risk getting a negative or having to take multiple preventative measures to prevent the negative all in order to get the positive, that and with everyone being similar, but different, it is a constant experiment to find what works best for you!
ScottyDoc said:I'm just glad I could help you man, never a bother, always a pleasure! I wish they had this kind of stuff around (Internet.. Google.. Forums) when I was in high school and college! I mean the information out there is vast and so easy to access compared to when I was younger, our younger generations are extremely lucky and they don't even realize just how lucky!!!
Not only do they not realize how lucky they are, but they are damn ungrateful as well...as the bell rings to bring in a new wave of "wonderful" students to teach...I mean babysit.
Not only do they not realize how lucky they are, but they are damn ungrateful as well...as the bell rings to bring in a new wave of "wonderful" students to teach...I mean babysit.
anybody know why my lower back is super tight/hurting while on EPI...taking 5 pills a day and its right above my butt in the middle
I don't think you are referring to me but maybe you are?
Funny because I am a teacher also. Very true and sad how some students are nowadays![]()
I feel your pain and I swear I think all teachers are severely, severely underpaid, to put up with what they do! I mean you have to put up with their behavior, then how it disrupts the class, then get the class back on track and do an already hard enough job of teaching these numbskulls that are not willing to open a book and read it, or study or just understand that you need a base of knowledge in which to add to, kind of like a person who trains upper body but not legs, no base and sooner or later it will crumble or can grow no further/higher! Oh wait, then ya gotta deal with the parents of these kids... "My child is an Angel! Why aren't you teaching my child? Your tests/questions are too hard!" All boiling down to what Kleen and a whole bunch of us others have been screaming about on this forum for a while now... "The Pussification of America"
You're experiencing back pumps, taurine will help combat them if you pick some up.
You're experiencing back pumps, taurine will help combat them if you pick some up.
I know what back pumps are and I never experienced any back pumps with EPI-V, but if it is "Back Pumps" as Tiny is suggesting, he is 100% right, Taurine is your friend (5-10g/day) depending on severity!
I decipher the difference between back pumps and LBP (low back pain) as back pumps only happen while in the gym and may last for like an hour or so after, but minus that are not a constant thing. While LBP is constant, oh it may be worse while lifting (aggravated), but will always have at least a slight presence!
Ya know, I'm not 100% sure where Morry (fellow member of the forum) got it from, but when I was experiencing back pumps it just so happened he was too and we split either a kilo or 2 kilo's of pure taurine powder, some bulk place he knew about and it was only like $20-30 a piece, so it is definitely cheap enough to buy and just have on hand, because there are tons of hormones and prohormones out there that will cause back pumps, so it is worth a try to see if it helps!
Good call Tiny!
I know what back pumps are and I never experienced any back pumps with EPI-V, but if it is "Back Pumps" as Tiny is suggesting, he is 100% right, Taurine is your friend (5-10g/day) depending on severity!
I decipher the difference between back pumps and LBP (low back pain) as back pumps only happen while in the gym and may last for like an hour or so after, but minus that are not a constant thing. While LBP is constant, oh it may be worse while lifting (aggravated), but will always have at least a slight presence!
Ya know, I'm not 100% sure where Morry (fellow member of the forum) got it from, but when I was experiencing back pumps it just so happened he was too and we split either a kilo or 2 kilo's of pure taurine powder, some bulk place he knew about and it was only like $20-30 a piece, so it is definitely cheap enough to buy and just have on hand, because there are tons of hormones and prohormones out there that will cause back pumps, so it is worth a try to see if it helps!
Good call Tiny!
I thought about that as I have heard of that before. Does seem to come on stronger after taking Epi pills.
Doc where do back pumps usually occur?
mattbaseball said:I don't think you are referring to me but maybe you are?
Funny because I am a teacher also. Very true and sad how some students are nowadays![]()
ScottyDoc said:Since you asked specifically... it is another difference between LBP and Back Pumps... when I have experienced LBP, I can usually pin-point it to the small of my back, but when it is back pumps, it is more global, and just overall achey, hard to explain actually, but I can definitely feel a distinct difference, I wish Morry was here, he could probably explain the difference in just a few words, he is the one that actually made me realize there was a difference and once I made the realization, it was like a breath of fresh air to me!!!
Thank you for spelling this out. I usually have to explain this to at least 1 patient per shift. We look at muscle pain versus true spinal pain, mechanism of injury, what aggravates/relieves the pain, so on. An injured muscle, be it torn or strained/sprained, will usually be a pinpoint pain in a muscle body, whereas the "back pumps" described here involve large amounts of muscle/groups of muscles. Annnd if you managed to herniate/bulge a disc, well you are going to have all kinds of special pain, depending on the what/where/how. Sorry had to chip in my two cents
No Matt! God No!! I was referring to my wonderful students.
No Matt! God No!! I was referring to my wonderful students.
ScottyDoc said:I am a Chiropractor, what is your specialty... Orthopedics?
mattbaseball said:Haha that is what I figured. What do you teach and where? I am in Houston area.