Fellow mad scientists - Lets formulate our own pre-workout

[Ginandtonic]

Alright gentlemen I know you all love reading the ingredient list on every pre-workout on the market looking for that edge on your 225 1rm decline bench. Lets share our own pre-workout concoctions so the fellas will admire our forehead veins and hypertension.

Based on my biased / half assed reading of questionable abstracts I have formulated a robust yet questionable pre-workout formula. This stew will taste worse than that first shot of plastic bottle tequila. Fair warning I am two beers deep at the moment.... light beer though don't worry its almost summer. I dub it - Pseudo ScientiFIT

Agmatine 1-2g
L-Citrulline 8g
Beet root power 1g???
Cognizin 250mg
Rhodiola extract 500mg
Cocoa powder 4g
l-theanine 300mg
Green Coffee extract 300mg

Before you call me a heretic for not including the latest and greatest snake oil, please share your input so I can immediately disregard it. Thank you

 

[Old Witch]

No DMAA?
No Phenethyl Dimethylamine?
No Beta Methyl Phenethylamine?
No isopropyl norsynephrine?


Man this **** is bunk.

 

[Ginandtonic]

No DMAA?
No Phenethyl Dimethylamine?
No Beta Methyl Phenethylamine?
No isopropyl norsynephrine?


Man this **** is bunk.

Would you settle for some Desoxypipradol or alpha-Methyltriptamine?

 

[Jiigzz]

No DAA? No Arginine? No Ephedra extract?

Disapoint.

 

[Alex281]

The Real question is will this pwo have unlisted “stim surprise” ?

 

[Old Witch]

The Real question is will this pwo have unlisted “stim surprise” ?

Well obviously not as that’s what my reply was about.

You gotta have that Na-Depea

 

[jarrellt67]

Alright gentlemen I know you all love reading the ingredient list on every pre-workout on the market looking for that edge on your 225 1rm decline bench. Lets share our own pre-workout concoctions so the fellas will admire our forehead veins and hypertension.

Based on my biased / half assed reading of questionable abstracts I have formulated a robust yet questionable pre-workout formula. This stew will taste worse than that first shot of plastic bottle tequila. Fair warning I am two beers deep at the moment.... light beer though don't worry its almost summer. I dub it - Pseudo ScientiFIT

Agmatine 1-2g
L-Citrulline 8g
Beet root power 1g???
Cognizin 250mg
Rhodiola extract 500mg
Cocoa powder 4g
l-theanine 300mg
Green Coffee extract 300mg

Before you call me a heretic for not including the latest and greatest snake oil, please share your input so I can immediately disregard it. Thank you

300 mg of l-theanine and no stimulants? Did you accidentally post your sleep formula?

 

[Old Witch]

300 mg of l-theanine and no stimulants? Did you accidentally post your sleep formula?

This guy is pretty much showing us he has no idea what needs to be in a PWO.

 

[Old Witch]

What I’d do...

Betaine Anhydrous 3g
Agmatine 2g
Norvaline 1.5g
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Eria Jarensis extract (99% PEMA) 75mg
Acacia Rigidula Extract (99% PEA alkaloids including bMPEA) 300mg
Dendrobium Nobile Extract (99% N,A-DEPEA) 50mg
1,3 DMAA 75mg
1,4 DMAA 75mg
2,4 DMHA 75mg
2,6 DMHA 75mg
Citrus Aurantium extract (99% synephrines, including norsyneprine and isopropyl norsyneprine) 200mg
Hordenine 50mg
Higenamine 50mg
Huperzine A 100mcg

Blend:
Vinpocetine, Noopept, sulbutiamine, Sodium Nitrate

 

[Old Witch]

Now, that would be a real half-scooper.

 

[jarrellt67]

This guy is pretty much showing us he has no idea what needs to be in a PWO.

I agree. He should have just stopped after the beet root powder and cocoa powder. Everything else is just window dressing...

 

[SkRaw85]

What I’d do...

Betaine Anhydrous 3g
Agmatine 2g
Norvaline 1.5g
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Eria Jarensis extract (99% PEMA) 75mg
Acacia Rigidula Extract (99% PEA alkaloids including bMPEA) 300mg
Dendrobium Nobile Extract (99% N,A-DEPEA) 50mg
1,3 DMAA 75mg
1,4 DMAA 75mg
2,4 DMHA 75mg
2,6 DMHA 75mg
Citrus Aurantium extract (99% synephrines, including norsyneprine and isopropyl norsyneprine) 200mg
Hordenine 50mg
Higenamine 50mg
Huperzine A 100mcg

Blend:
Vinpocetine, Noopept, sulbutiamine, Sodium Nitrate

Build it and they will come

 

[nasrenegade]

What I’d do...

Betaine Anhydrous 3g
Agmatine 2g
Norvaline 1.5g
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Eria Jarensis extract (99% PEMA) 75mg
Acacia Rigidula Extract (99% PEA alkaloids including bMPEA) 300mg
Dendrobium Nobile Extract (99% N,A-DEPEA) 50mg
1,3 DMAA 75mg
1,4 DMAA 75mg
2,4 DMHA 75mg
2,6 DMHA 75mg
Citrus Aurantium extract (99% synephrines, including norsyneprine and isopropyl norsyneprine) 200mg
Hordenine 50mg
Higenamine 50mg
Huperzine A 100mcg

Blend:
Vinpocetine, Noopept, sulbutiamine, Sodium Nitrate

Educate me broham. Wouldnt some of those pop you for a false positive on a piss test?

 

[Old Witch]

Educate me broham. Wouldnt some of those pop you for a false positive on a piss test?

If you’re dumb enough to be taking a hardcore PWO while in a tested sport or on parole... well then you deserve the consequences.

It wouldn’t be a “false” positive, this **** is drugs.

 

[nasrenegade]

If you’re dumb enough to be taking a hardcore PWO while in a tested sport or on parole... well then you deserve the consequences.

Thats a bit narrow-mind/sighted

It wouldn’t be a “false” positive, this **** is drugs.

.
The clarification I was looking for.

 

[Old Witch]

Thats a bit narrow-mind/sighted

.
The clarification I was looking for.

Not narrow minded at all. Know what you’re taking is drugs, and that taking drugs legal or not when subject to drug tests is a very very stupid thing to do.

 

[N2ofusion]

Now, that would be a real half-scooper.

Agreed, but make a limited batch and it’d sell out in a second

 

[ValiantThor08]

300 mg of l-theanine and no stimulants? Did you accidentally post your sleep formula?

Sometimes theanine gives me insomnia.

 

[ValiantThor08]

What I’d do...

Betaine Anhydrous 3g
Agmatine 2g
Norvaline 1.5g
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Eria Jarensis extract (99% PEMA) 75mg
Acacia Rigidula Extract (99% PEA alkaloids including bMPEA) 300mg
Dendrobium Nobile Extract (99% N,A-DEPEA) 50mg
1,3 DMAA 75mg
1,4 DMAA 75mg
2,4 DMHA 75mg
2,6 DMHA 75mg
Citrus Aurantium extract (99% synephrines, including norsyneprine and isopropyl norsyneprine) 200mg
Hordenine 50mg
Higenamine 50mg
Huperzine A 100mcg

Blend:
Vinpocetine, Noopept, sulbutiamine, Sodium Nitrate

Kitchen sink of exotic stims.

 

[Old Witch]

Kitchen sink of exotic stims.

It can’t be missing anything if it’s not missing anything...

 

[Old Witch]

I mean, really, half a scoop of that and you’d be ready to chew through the barbell...

 

[ValiantThor08]

It can’t be missing anything if it’s not missing anything...

I'd give it a try since it has lower caffiene.

 

[LeanEngineer]

It can’t be missing anything if it’s not missing anything...

haha agreed. I'd give it a try though.

 

[HIT4ME]

What I’d do...

Betaine Anhydrous 3g
Agmatine 2g
Norvaline 1.5g
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Eria Jarensis extract (99% PEMA) 75mg
Acacia Rigidula Extract (99% PEA alkaloids including bMPEA) 300mg
Dendrobium Nobile Extract (99% N,A-DEPEA) 50mg
1,3 DMAA 75mg
1,4 DMAA 75mg
2,4 DMHA 75mg
2,6 DMHA 75mg
Citrus Aurantium extract (99% synephrines, including norsyneprine and isopropyl norsyneprine) 200mg
Hordenine 50mg
Higenamine 50mg
Huperzine A 100mcg

Blend:
Vinpocetine, Noopept, sulbutiamine, Sodium Nitrate

Good formula, but you really need to add Beta-Alanine for tingles. People need to FEEL their preworkouts. Tachycardia by itself isn't enough.

 

[Old Witch]

Good formula, but you really need to add Beta-Alanine for tingles. People need to FEEL their preworkouts. Tachycardia by itself isn't enough.

Oh yeah I forgot. Being higher than a kite, and dead, isn’t enough.

 

[Old Witch]

Btw that formula I listed is stronger than crack for real.

 

[HIT4ME]

Oh yeah I forgot. Being higher than a kite, and dead, isn’t enough.

Btw that formula I listed is stronger than crack for real.

Yeah...I was actually wondering....is the Higenamine REALLY necessary?

 

[Alex281]

Oh yeah I forgot. Being higher than a kite, and dead, isn’t enough.

Great advertising slogan for pwo supplement ! Crackhead would be a perfect name for this one

 

[Old Witch]

Great advertising slogan for pwo supplement ! Crackhead would be a perfect name for this one

That’s already a Preworkout on the market. And Tweaker... and Geeked... Junky Juice...


How about LD50? Hahahaha

 

[Old Witch]

Yeah...I was actually wondering....is the Higenamine REALLY necessary?

Hey, just be glad I didn’t add halostachine and rauwolscine.

 

[HIT4ME]

That’s already a Preworkout on the market. And Tweaker... and Geeked... Junky Juice...


How about LD50? Hahahaha

Umm...You mean LD95?

Hey, just be glad I didn’t add halostachine and rauwolscine.

Quick question. Can I stack this with Ephedrine and a VPX Redline?

 

[DEVANS89]

This

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

The problem is that you need to balance the number of ingrediants, individual potency at right dosages, and the possibility that you'll need to run to the latrine immediately after consumption.

 

[HIT4ME]

I kind of feel bad for the OP to be honest...he had a good idea for coming up with an open source preworkout and we kind of derailed by going ultra hardcore fantasy.

 

[Rad83]

Recreate mesomorph, verbatim. Problem solved.

 

[Old Witch]

Recreate mesomorph, verbatim. Problem solved.

That’s already a thing. You have to look around.

 

[HebrewHulk]

black coffee

 

[BamBam54]

I love me some Vaso6 in the mix. And a stim mix without going too crazy with the stims. Ya know? Maybe 200-250 caffeine equivalent. For those of us working out in the evening who still hope to sleep at night.

 

[ValiantThor08]

That’s already a thing. You have to look around.

What is the og mesomorph clone called?