Fat loss insan1ty with Sup3r-11 and Ignit3
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habajaba
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When I go on the scale I just shut my eyes, problem solved.
Banana scales aren't accurate anyway...
HIT4ME
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Thank you sir. I've had some slight setbacks now, but I'm gonna keep plugging away. I appreciate your checking in. I hope everything is well with your family!
This wasn't a cheat meal. This was an entire day of cheating. It was like, a crazy, out of control diet break. I just needed it. It's all bloat and I have a feeling I am still improving, just gotta give it more time now.
I actually go the other direction. I weigh myself EVERY morning, as soon as I wake up. It's just a habit that keeps me in line. I don't let it bother me if it fluctuates and I actually weigh myself once or twice more throughout the day. Seeing how much a meal or water can effect your weight really gives you confidence after a while that it's just water weight or whatever, and gives you more control over it. I may weigh 2-3 pounds more at night than in the morning, no big deal, I know it's usually like that. Seeing all the fluctuations just gives you less stress than if you weigh once per week and then get some random number that I don't know if I've improved or not. I mean, if I weigh myself once per week and I am a little dehydrated and see 175 and then bust my butt for a week and come back and I'm not so dehydrated and weigh 176 I would be very disheartened. But seeing that I got down to 173, and then 172, and then 174, and then 176 kind of tells me that I'm going in the right direction and it's fluctuations. I know that after that 176 day I will be back to 174 without effort....kind of hard to explain....and I am talking in circles. haha.
So, I ran 75 minutes today on the treadmill, and got back to hitting the weights at 5 tonight. I forgot to bring my log home but I was surprised - all of the weights I used at the end of the 15 rep phase of my last HST cycle, I improved upon tonight. This shocked me because I figured with all this cardio I am definitely over training and I was very tired going into the workout. I REALLY expected my squats to suffer and I was out of shape for 15 reps and had to stop for a couple breaths, but got the 15 reps at 225 which is where I was last time, and I will be going for 15 X 230 on Sunday.
I was going to run for another hour tonight, but I just don't have the gas for it.
My diet has been 2 TBSP of MCT Oil (200 cals, all fat), 1 scoop of PBC Select (120/24), 1 cheese stick (50/6), 2 tbsp of PBFit (50/6). I am going to have 5 oz. chicken and a bag of broccoli for dinner (320/40) Totals: 740 calories, just 76 grams protein. Ouch. Maybe I'll throw in another scoop of Select.
HIT4ME
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Thank you my friend. I am trying ti do whatever it takes. Even in college, 15 years ago, I would get to this point and never was able to get leaner. I think the fact my body just jumped right back to 176, water weight or not, is telling me my body has a set point there. It is going to take a lot of work to get past it. Plus, I only have a week and a half left on the challenge and in spite of the effort, I still think I won't even come close to the goal...but I've made progress and I will go out fighting and maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. Either way ...seeing that I can push myself and getting the results I have, even if they fall short, and having the support here - it has been an amazing adventure for me and I am happy.
habajaba
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I can totally understand your reasoning. As a data geek by trade, I love data. Give me more! What I found is I would obsess over it and over analyze it. I had all kinds of spreadsheets. And as you and I both have said, weight fluctuations are hardly scientific. It's very mysterious at times why we go up or down.
So by only weighing once a week, my thought is the typical trend should always be in the right direction since I give myself a week of progress each time. And if I'm off one week, I chalk it up to deuce timing or water weight. I only get concerned with 2 or 3 weeks in the wrong direction.
Bottom line, weight is only a minor factor for me and this helps me minimize my obsession with it.
HIT4ME
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Yeah, that logic is also sound. It just goes to show how you have to adopt a method that works best for your situation and there is no best way I guess.
Spent this morning chopping up trees in my grandmother's yard, didn't do any cardio ...now I am going apple picking. I may do some running when I get back. We will see.
Today's Weigh in:
Bodyweight: 172.8 pounds
Aria Bodyfat %: 17.5%
Waist: forgot to measure.
HIT4ME
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Ok guys, this sucks but I am throwing in the towel in my diet for now. It is time for a break. I am just exhausted. I am disappointed not to make it to the end of the 6 week challenge - even if I failed I would have been OK, but not finishing is tough.
On a positive note, I feel like I pushed to the absolute limit and learned a bit about where that line is. I also feel like I can expand my abilities with this experience and become even better at doing more work. I think I can make some adjustments and do the challenge again and hit my goal, and that is what I plan to do after a break.
It also stinks to take longer to hit my goal and longer before I can start bulking, but it's just 6 weeks, right?
On a positive note, I feel like I pushed to the absolute limit and learned a bit about where that line is. I also feel like I can expand my abilities with this experience and become even better at doing more work. I think I can make some adjustments and do the challenge again and hit my goal, and that is what I plan to do after a break.
It also stinks to take longer to hit my goal and longer before I can start bulking, but it's just 6 weeks, right?
Kaprice
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Dude! You call that failure? Heck no!!
Setting an unrealistic goal and getting as close as you did to it is a massive success.
Recognizing when it's time to adjust is SMART, not failure.
Now if you dive into a bucket of ice creme every day for the next 2 months and you gain all your weight back, yeah, I'll let you get away with calling that a failure. But, if you just switch to a more sane and balanced plan, I call that a recipe for SUCCESS!
Now shut the heck up about failure and show us what you can do as a sane person!
Setting an unrealistic goal and getting as close as you did to it is a massive success.
Recognizing when it's time to adjust is SMART, not failure.
Now if you dive into a bucket of ice creme every day for the next 2 months and you gain all your weight back, yeah, I'll let you get away with calling that a failure. But, if you just switch to a more sane and balanced plan, I call that a recipe for SUCCESS!
Now shut the heck up about failure and show us what you can do as a sane person!
Kaprice
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If a pilot enters in the wrong destination coordinates, is he a failure for recognizing he's not heading where he intended and simply makes a course adjustment???
HINT: NO! It means he's a good pilot. I'd hate to be on the flight where the pilot says, "well, I said I was going to Bermuda Triangle and I know the plane is going down, but I'm not a quitter! I'm gonna stick to the course!"
HINT: NO! It means he's a good pilot. I'd hate to be on the flight where the pilot says, "well, I said I was going to Bermuda Triangle and I know the plane is going down, but I'm not a quitter! I'm gonna stick to the course!"
hairygrandpa
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HIT4ME
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Yeah, I meant failure in the literal "I didn't lose 18 pounds" would have been OK with me. Not sticking it out for the 6 weeks is kind of harder on me. But I don't feel like I failed. I think I have gained a lot of knowledge from the hard work and can adjust. Not sure how sane I am
I am thinking next round will be slightly more protein and about 200 cals per day from coconut or MCT oils. This should help me with staying full, help me fuel my workouts better. I will adjust cardio down to where I burn 3000 calories per day and my intake should be around 1200 calories - that's still a crazy deficit, but I feel like it will go much more smoothly. And I don't think burning 3000 cals per day is really a bad thing.. it's relatively moderateactivity.
You and I think more alike than you may realize, haha. You just don't have that touch of psychosis that I do. That and I am a bit self destructive. I never joined the military but my dad served and I remember in my 20's once we were doing some work and he stopped and said, "they would love you in the military" because I just keep going in an almost self destructive manner....something about being right at my limit and seeing where I quit just drives me. It is a tool in the tool box, and often our best trait and our worst trait are the same thing...just a matter of if you are using the right tool in the right situation.
And when I helped my buddy with his house last year, he joked and said, "with you, every tool is a hammer."
And the point of these long stories...I am just strange and crazy. Sometimes it works. Sometimes I go down in a ball of flames. But you will see it when it happens either way, haha.
Anthony Robbins uses a similar analogy to your place analogy too. It's a great point and I like your application of it ...and you are right. I need to adjust. And I am just taking about a week off, so it should only be 14 half gallons of ice cream. Lol.
Thanks for the support and insight brother. I will keep working this.
Oh, and I did start the weights on Friday, and tonight I got 13 reps with 165....so look close to 14, but failed. Where you at with this?
I also got 14 reps with 325 on deads ...I am surprised that even with all this cardio and a week off from the weights, I am still gaining...albeit slowly .
HIT4ME
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I hope you are right! I'd like to get as lean as you and even have your mass.
I'm thinking about how one cheat day can put 5-6 pounds on me so fast now. I can gain weight at a ridiculous rate. It has occurred to me over the past couple of days that I've never been as lean as I was last week in my LIFE. maybe when I was 4 or something, but not since. My body just needs some training I think to get there.
I've also been thinking about how we get fat and how we evolved. I think the human body was designed to be very efficient at storing fat because it was MEANT to have regular periods of starvation. i.e. - we would get food, eat a bunch, then spend 1-2 days looking for more foods and during those 1-2 days we would be burning the stored fat that we were so good at storing. The problem? We never go into starvation in today's society. It's just steady food and we are actually afraid of going a day without eating. Then, when you get REALLY fat, like I was, your body becomes even better at it because of all the extra fat cells. And it took me a long time to get that messed up, took me a long time to get back to where I am, and my journey to where I want to be may be even longer than I realized - not just 20 pounds and then a couple months around maintenance....but maybe even another year of just getting my metabolism back in order. Who knows?
Is this scientific? No, not really, it's just a hypothesis. But this is all harder than any of us thinks before we do it (at least I always think it's going to be easier than it is) and I may just have to keep going and it may take more will than I originally planned on. The good thing is, it's practice and the more you use your will, the more will you have.
Kaprice
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You don't put on 5-6 pounds of FAT with one cheat day. Because YOU normally eat such low quantities of food during the week, a cheat day fills you with undigested food that can weigh a few pounds. Plus some water retention from the extra carbs and salt.
So, don't worry about those 5-6 pounds at all.
Many who follow the carb cycling (low carb/cal during the week with a big cheat day find they gain 3 to 6 pounds from the cheat and 3 days later they're back at parity and then 3 days after that they're lower than before the previous cheat day. It's watching the Yo-Yo of a man walking down stairs. The yoyo goes up and down but the overall progress is down, down, down.
HIT4ME
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You are right, and I think a lot of bloat and water. I drink A LOT more than most people. 2+ gallons per day is pretty easy for me. Another thing that I was just raised with. I ALWAYS have a drink. I can drink a quart easier than a lot of people drink a can of soda. I can drink an entire pot of coffee - my only issue is finding a cup that is big enough to hold it all. But because of this, when I start eating a bunch of carbs and then drink a little extra - I bloat a ton. The good thing is that I'm finally getting lean enough that I can SEE the change in the mirror. I probably never noticed it before. My abs were visible before..now they're gone. it's probably a lot of water and such, and it will come right back off. And like you said, a lot of food weight too. I may go off the diet for a week and gain 10 pounds, but 8 will be in the first 2 days. haha.
I know you're right, but still, it's a psychological trick.
Misfit28
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Kaprice
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Personally, I think it's time for him to work at maintenance or small deficit for a few weeks, giving his body a time to recover from his abuse for the past several months. See if he can maintain his weight during recovery.
Let it get used to his new weight. Let his metabolism stabilize.
But, Hit is probably too crazy to listen to me!
Rand0m
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Personally, I think it's time for him to work at maintenance or small deficit for a few weeks, giving his body a time to recover from his abuse for the past several months. See if he can maintain his weight during recovery.
Let it get used to his new weight. Let his metabolism stabilize.
But, Hit is probably too crazy to listen to me!
That's exactly what I meant. He won't listen to us though haha. But that's what makes this thread so interesting.
HIT4ME
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Yeah. I that is kind of the plan for the next week or so. As you know - the entire metabolism adjusting and resetting thing I think is a bit of a hoax. There was an article on the front of AM saying this too this past week. Having said that, we all have breaking points, physically and mentally. I think that I am realizing just how sedentary I can be and burning 3000 calories/day isn't really an extreme goal. Again, my BMR is around 1700 calories...so I need 1300 calories of exercise throughout the day. Having said that, if I do that and eat 500below my BMR at 1200-1300 I should burn almost a half pound of fat per day and be in a better long term position.
For most of this thread I was avoiding much exercise because of the deficit I was in, but HGP pointed out that my BMR had fallen, and he was right...and then the six week challenge caused me to kick it into high gear in the hopes I could finish this off. But I will be slightly more reasonable when I come back. But still a little crazy.
Personally, I think it's time for him to work at maintenance or small deficit for a few weeks, giving his body a time to recover from his abuse for the past several months. See if he can maintain his weight during recovery.
Let it get used to his new weight. Let his metabolism stabilize.
But, Hit is probably too crazy to listen to me!
Abuse? Lol. It's this crazy cardio that HGP got me doing, and like I've always said, I have two gears. On. Off. Once he got me to switch on it was all in. Haha. Just my make up.
What? Did you say something in this last post?
Rand0m
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Mental reset is more what I meant. But I'm sure your hormones are a little out of wack? Btw, are you still running dcp or anything else? This thread moves fast, I feel like I miss out if I don't check in every day or 2 haha.
Kaprice
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Heck, I find myself checking in every hour or two! (must be an addiction!)
HIT4ME
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Sorry for the slow response. I've just been recovering and laying low. I have been out of DCP for about a month. The only things I was using were Supernova and Alpha Burn before cardio.
I think you are right about the hormones and such. I have been really hungry for the past week and can't get full. I think the long diet and then all the cardio...just messed with leptin or something, but it is subsiding now. I am working on a plan and will start back at it in a few days.
Lol, I do the same with your log...but it is hard to keep up with all the logs. Seeing all of you work so hard is so motivating.
So, I've begun a diet plan that will be along the following lines:
meal 1 calories protein carbohydrates fat
1 cup egg beaters 120 24 4 0
1/2 cup fat free cheddar 90 18 4 0
1 tbsp coconut oil 130 0 0 14
meal 2
3 oz. chicken 120 26 2 0
4 servings of broccoli 120 8 16 0
meal 3
8 oz F@ge 0 yogurt 130 23 9 0
1 scoop protein 130 23 3 3.5
(Didnt know F a g e yogurt was a bad word and would be *** out)
5 oz chicken 200 43 3 0
4 servings of broccoli 120 8 16 0
Sorry for the spreadsheet not lining up, but totals will be about:
1,060 calories
173 g protein
58 g carbohydrates
17.5 g fat
I am thinking of adding a little to this and maybe cycling. Maybe 3 days/week eating just the above, 2 days a week around 1400 cals, and 2 days/week at 2700 calories.
My thinking is that maybe humans are just designed to store and un-store fat. We store fat effectively and then we are supposed to go through periods of starvation and burn fat off, then refeed and start all over again. This is kind of along the lines of Kaprice's strategy but incorporated some minor changes. I haven't worked it all out in my head yet.
Suggestions?
hairygrandpa
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Looks like a good attack plan to win the war!
HIT4ME
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Just an update. Gearing up slowly, didn't eat the diet above exactly today because I didn't have all the food, but I went grocery shopping today. Still, I am around 1300 calories today. Will probably get up in the morning and hit the treadmill and then hit the weights tomorrow night. Within a week I will have this log back in full swing.
HIT4ME
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Thanks for the input. I forgot I also take 6 g of fish oil a day. The thing is, I am not sure how many carbs I can cut out. Most of my carbs are from broccoli and the Greek yogurt. The fat is low, but I am going to maybe cycle some days with fewer calories and some days with more. I haven't gotten it totally worked out in my head yet, but today I ate:
1 cup egg beaters, 2 cheese sticks (forgot to buy the fat free cheese), 1 tbsp coconut oil, 6 oz. Greek yogurt, 1 scoop Select, 1 cliff bar, 5 oz. Chicken, 12 oz. Broccoli, 1 bouillon cube for broth.
That's 1105 calories and 130 g protein. I will probably have some more yogurt/protein powder later and end up around 1350 cals for the day.
I was going full retard this week (as hairygrandpa says) and as of yesterday I was up to 185. That is a 17 pound gain in 1 week! This morning though, I was down 5 pounds and I seem to be losing it fast. Has to be a lot of water, but some fat for sure. I am taking it easier this week but come next week I will be in full gear.
My weight workout wasn't great:
Squats:
1 x 8 x 185 warm up
1 x 15 x 235
Straight Legged Deadlifts
1 x 14 x 235
Pull Ups:
1 x 10 + 5 rest pause reps x b.w.
Bench Presses:
1 x 8 x 95
1 x 11 x 165
1 x 7 x 165
Military Presses:
1 x 12 x 85
1 x 8 x 85
Rope Face Pulls:
1 x 15 x 60
Rope Press Downs:
1 x 13 x 30
1 x 8 x 30
Barbell Curls:
1 x 13 x 75
1 x 8 x 75
I did 2 sets of a lot of the exercises because I wasn't hitting 15 reps and now that I am eating, I have no excuses.
Kaprice
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To be clear, he said your carbs are already too low.
HIT4ME
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Yeah, then he finished by suggesting higher fats and lower carbs. But he did start suggesting raising both...which if course increases calories unless I cut protein.....of course when I figure out my entire cycle I will have some days with higher carbs.
justhere4comm
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I'm going with door number three on my cut. Bob.
High, medium and low.
High on leg day.
Medium on other wo days and low on rest days.
So that's two high on 2 days, 2 medium on 3 days and 2 low on 2.
3 on 1 off schedule.
High, medium and low.
High on leg day.
Medium on other wo days and low on rest days.
So that's two high on 2 days, 2 medium on 3 days and 2 low on 2.
3 on 1 off schedule.
HIT4ME
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Basically my strategy is to pick the calories I am aiming for and try to get as high a percentage of those calories from protein as possible up to 1.5 grams protein per pound. Minimum of 1 g per pound.
Carbs and fat cam be created from protein, but only protein cam be used for protein, so if I eat extra protein and need carbs, my body will make the carbs from that.
I don't really try to limit fat or carbs beyond the fact that I am limiting cals and need to get a certain level of protein from those limited cals.
Hope that makes sense.
Rand0m
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I think most will actually set protein/fat and adjust carbs. There is a minimum amount of protein/fat you need for various reasons but you don't "need" carbs.
HIT4ME
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I believe this to a large degree, but I still have plenty of fat, so beyond omega-3 and any essential fats my body can't make on its own, I should be pretty well set.
Today I had my eggs and cheese, a tbsp coconut oil, 3 oz. Chicken and 6 oz. Broccoli. That is about 500 calories. I just had some honey barbeque chicken, a couple cheese sticks and onion rings from a local restaurant....about 1200 calories I am guessing. Going to eat around 600 more calories to put me right around 2300 for the day. This is one of my high intake days of course.
I ran/walked on the treadmill for 75 minutes and made it 5.1 miles.
When I started my PSMF with no experience, I was much more planned and strict. I ate a plan like what I am doing now even though it was less food....but I am thinking that taking food on a regular basis may help grehlin and leptin levels and I honestly feel much more dull all the time. This also means that when I eat something I shouldn't, I get full faster and don't have to fight it as much. Of course this is no surprise and it doesn't really matter except when you push too far ...but it's an observation.
BEAST73
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Sounds Good! Bro
HIT4ME
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Ok guys, so I've had my diet back under control for the last few days. I was up to 185 as of this past Wed. - talk about a mind fuark. 17 pounds gained in about 1 week. I gained some fat but could tell I was holding crazy water.
Today's Weigh in:
Bodyweight: 177.1
Aria Bodyfat %: 18.8%
Didn't take my waist. Honestly, the weight gain was such a mind game that if I didn't know I had you guys to come back to, I would have become depressed and packed it in. Thank you all for being there, for real, it is amazing.
I have been trying to cycle, as I said, high/medium/low and yesterday was a high day, so being at 177 after that makes me happy. I am losing around a pound or more every day since wed, which confirms a lot of water weight and also makes me feel like I have some momentum going back into this.
Given that I am losing and not trying nearly as hard, that REALLY makes me feel better. It may be mental because it is just water coming off, but it is still a help - this entire game is about mentality. If anything, it speaks to the diet breaks having mental benefit, hormone/hunger benefits even if it doesn't have much to do with metabolism.
Thanks again for following guys!
Today's Weigh in:
Bodyweight: 177.1
Aria Bodyfat %: 18.8%
Didn't take my waist. Honestly, the weight gain was such a mind game that if I didn't know I had you guys to come back to, I would have become depressed and packed it in. Thank you all for being there, for real, it is amazing.
I have been trying to cycle, as I said, high/medium/low and yesterday was a high day, so being at 177 after that makes me happy. I am losing around a pound or more every day since wed, which confirms a lot of water weight and also makes me feel like I have some momentum going back into this.
Given that I am losing and not trying nearly as hard, that REALLY makes me feel better. It may be mental because it is just water coming off, but it is still a help - this entire game is about mentality. If anything, it speaks to the diet breaks having mental benefit, hormone/hunger benefits even if it doesn't have much to do with metabolism.
Thanks again for following guys!
ryane87
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Keep it up man. Do whatever you need to do to keep your mind right. It is hard and there is nothing wrong with giving your mind a break. Next time, just try and give yourself a break before you get to the point of pooping on yourself. I think you have the willpower to keep it up if you get back to a strict but not highly aggressive to where your brain absolutely revolts and tells you to ef yourself
hairygrandpa
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Hey HIT4ME !
I can see you.
What are you doing at the fridge?
Are you holding a doughnut in your hand?
Now, slowly move away from the fridge!
Keep your hands where I can see them!
Drop the doughnut! Drop the fugging doughnut NOW!
....taser crackling sounds...
10-4 all units, suspect is down....
I can see you.
What are you doing at the fridge?
Are you holding a doughnut in your hand?
Now, slowly move away from the fridge!
Keep your hands where I can see them!
Drop the doughnut! Drop the fugging doughnut NOW!
....taser crackling sounds...
10-4 all units, suspect is down....
HIT4ME
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Haha, who can have time for anything else? My day job actually has to take a backseat to this forum sometimes....it can become a bit overwhelming to keep up.
Oh, I'm in "light-diet" mode right now. Testing out the strategy without being too strict and just seeing how it goes for the next few days. So far, I've dropped almost 10 of the 17 pounds that I gained in my week off. I'm going with a mix of my own approach and Kaprice's approach for a bit to see how it goes. The fact is, the PSMF was REALLY good for me - bu I had a LOT to lose. First time on it I had a good 90 pounds of fat to lose. This last time around I had a solid 50 pounds to lose. It works great for that situation. Maybe I'm at the point where the strategy needs to change a bit ....but at one point I was losing 3-4 pounds per week with NO CARDIO, and it's hard to argue with that, haha.
Aahhh....and you're letting everyone in on the real secret to my success. Whenever I go to the fridge, HGP tazes me. After about 114 times being tazed, my brain is starting to develop a Pavlovian aversion to food. Starting to. Not quite
Actually, I spent Thursday and Friday on moderate (around 1300 calories), Saturday was high (around 2500), Sunday was moderate (~1200) and today is low (~800). Tomorrow will be moderate, Wed. high again, Thursday low, Friday Moderate.
Today's weigh in:
Bodyweight: 175.3 pounds
Aria Bodyfat %: 19.8%
Waist: 37.75" - this has shot up, but I still think I'm holding water.
It's weird actually. I've never been vascular at all - but right before I went off the diet my arms were starting to have some real veins popping up. After the full retard weight gain, my arms kept the vascularity and now that I've lost a little, they are obviously leaner/harder. My gut, however, seems to have gained a bit. My abs are starting to pop back out again though, so there is hope. My gf grabbed my arms the other night and instantly let go of it and said, "Ewww - it's all muscle!" - so it isn't in my head. (for some reason she hates the way muscle feels??? got me....)
At any rate, the weight is dropping pretty fast, but I just gained it SUPER fast so it's a lot of water flux I'm sure. If I can get back to 168 with no effort though and no real cardio (I've only been doing enough so that I can keep up my ability to do it when I need it) - I should be positioned pretty nicely for another push. And if I can go even further, then this strategy will prove KAPrice just a little bit right....but this is my last time admitting it.
HIT4ME
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lmao. Good point, I knew something would come of that comment. I guess there's no coming back after setting you up like that....can't even think of anything witty.
justhere4comm
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HIT4ME
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So today was my first attempt at a low calorie day since coming off. I had 1 cup egg beaters, 2 oz. Fat free cheese, 1 bag of beef jerky, 5 oz. Of chicken, 12 oz. Broccoli, 1 cheese stick and a "protein shot"
Total of 795 calories, 133 g protein. The "protein shot" was a small bottle of liquid I found in the convenience store. It had 15 g protein and 70 cals, so I saw it and though, "That's great, I wish I had found this sooner. That is straight protein from a convenience store. Even better than beef jerky." So I bought it. Then I drank it and looked at the ingredients. Yeah it has whey isolate and casein. But the first protein source listed was collagen. For real? Junk. I felt had.
I am actually really hungry now...this diet doesn't normally make me feel this hungry. I guess the cycling has some serious effects on hunger hormones. I just made a water and gallium husk shake with 3 huge tablespoons of psyllium and downed it. Hopefully it expands and makes me full.
Total of 795 calories, 133 g protein. The "protein shot" was a small bottle of liquid I found in the convenience store. It had 15 g protein and 70 cals, so I saw it and though, "That's great, I wish I had found this sooner. That is straight protein from a convenience store. Even better than beef jerky." So I bought it. Then I drank it and looked at the ingredients. Yeah it has whey isolate and casein. But the first protein source listed was collagen. For real? Junk. I felt had.
I am actually really hungry now...this diet doesn't normally make me feel this hungry. I guess the cycling has some serious effects on hunger hormones. I just made a water and gallium husk shake with 3 huge tablespoons of psyllium and downed it. Hopefully it expands and makes me full.