Fat Burners - EC/CY/RK

Grayson

Grayson

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I've been on EC for the past month and have had some pretty good results. I know it can be taken for upwards of 24 weeks, but I'm only going to go for 12. And I know that it's dangerous to mix Y with E, but I was wondering if I can do Y in the morning (full dose of 0.2mg/kg), then wait 4 hours and start EC? Also, because the morning Y would be instead of the morning EC dose, can I up the following doses of EC? So that would be about 15-16 mg of Y in the morning, then 2 doses of 300mg C with 3*12.5mg of EHCL later on in the day.

Thanks
 
I would never run EC straight for 12 weeks IMO. I've had great results running EC for 2 weeks following by Yohimbine/caffeine for 2 weeks on an alternating schedule. I just can't handle ECY but a lot of people do it.
 
I was dosing like that during my recomp log. Stick with the normal dose of EC. Don't up the C. You just need to start off slow to assess your tolerance, and make sure you keep them spread out.
 
Chefdeez said:
I would never run EC straight for 12 weeks IMO. I've had great results running EC for 2 weeks following by Yohimbine/caffeine for 2 weeks on an alternating schedule. I just can't handle ECY but a lot of people do it.
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You are getting clen and EC mixed up. Why would you cycle EC?
 
mpaquett said:
I was dosing like that during my recomp log. Stick with the normal dose of EC. Don't up the C. You just need to start off slow to assess your tolerance, and make sure you keep them spread out.
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Yes, I'm going to wait 4-5 hours after taking Y before going back to EC.

I dosed 10mg of Y this morning and later on in the day, I'm going to do 2 doses of EC. Tomorrow I'm going to up it to 15mg.

Also, with EC I've stopped feeling the thermo effect but the focus is still there. Is this normal? I can't find it, but I remember mr.cooper69 saying that even though you stop feeling the thermo, EC is still working to burn fat.

Can anyone corroborate this?

I also bought a bottle of rk-500. How would this be implemented with my current protocol?
 
warbird01 said:
You are getting clen and EC mixed up. Why would you cycle EC?
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No I'm not. For me personally I become tolerant to the stim effects of ephedrine after a few weeks which is why I cycle. I understand that it still gets the job done even though you don't "feel" it. Just personal preference.
 
The Engineer said:
Yes, I'm going to wait 4-5 hours after taking Y before going back to EC. I dosed 10mg of Y this morning and later on in the day, I'm going to do 2 doses of EC. Tomorrow I'm going to up it to 15mg. Also, with EC I've stopped feeling the thermo effect but the focus is still there. Is this normal? I can't find it, but I remember mr.cooper69 saying that even though you stop feeling the thermo, EC is still working to burn fat. Can anyone corroborate this? I also bought a bottle of rk-500. How would this be implemented with my current protocol?
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Yeah, even if you don't "feel" it, the fat burning process is still taking effect.

As for RK, I would dose pre-fat meals and/or pre-workout.
 
The Engineer said:
I've been on EC for the past month and have had some pretty good results. I know it can be taken for upwards of 24 weeks, but I'm only going to go for 12. And I know that it's dangerous to mix Y with E, but I was wondering if I can do Y in the morning (full dose of 0.2mg/kg), then wait 4 hours and start EC? Also, because the morning Y would be instead of the morning EC dose, can I up the following doses of EC? So that would be about 15-16 mg of Y in the morning, then 2 doses of 300mg C with 3*12.5mg of EHCL later on in the day.

Thanks
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I've done ECY a few times. I just dose it 12.5/200/2.5 2-3x a day. Nothing crazy. I think your yohimbine doses are too high personally
 
Chefdeez said:
Am I the only one that prefers good old yohimbine hcl over alpha-y? Just seems to work better for me.
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Many can't tolerate the sides that come with y hcl. Which is why they go with alpha-y.
 
sina said:
Do most come off Y. HCL? or run y. hcl year-round?
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Use it like any other supplement: 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off. Or 4 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off. LM also suggests 5 days on, 2 days off or 2-4 days on and 2 days off. The smaller protocol is to reduce water weight.
 
Also, I know that Phenylpropanolamine is now banned, but I've seen it prescribed as dog medication? Has anyone been able to acquire a source after the ban? I heard this stuff works great with Y.
 
The Engineer said:
Use it like any other supplement: 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off. Or 4 weeks on, 1-2 weeks off. LM also suggests 5 days on, 2 days off or 2-4 days on and 2 days off. The smaller protocol is to reduce water weight.
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Good advice. Different ways you can do it, but very few if anything should be ran "year round."
 
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