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Excelsior pre workout

Best pre workout of all time IMO.

02/23 and earlier batches of excelsior a close second (I think 10/22 batch of excelsior was best excelsior batch personally), but still not the OG Driven Sports Craze. Berry Lemonade was my favorite, an all time end of the rainbow find right there!

Same with original thermal Spark and OG Detonate. Close, but nothing like OG Detonate either IMO.....

Funny thing is, I was pretty active on the BB.com forums back in 2010-2013, and it was through that community that I first discovered Craze.

Unfortunately, at the time I'd been dragging my feet on actually placing an order for the product, until I finally ordered a tub of Berry Lemonade Craze in October 2012 so I could see what the hype was all about.

I remember being so excited to finally try Craze for myself once the package finally arrived... and yet when I took my very first serving of 1.5 scoops on an empty stomach, I was devastated when I felt literally nothing from it. Sadly, this was the experience I recall having with all subsequent uses of the product.

The Driven Sports mods basically told me I was probably a "non-responder" when I posted an experience report on the BB.com forums. My suspicion is that Craze had generated so much publicity by the time I'd finally gotten around to ordering it that DS had begun leaving the DEPEA out of the batches that were being manufactured by that stage of the product's lifecycle.

Such a disappointment.
 
Those who have tried doomsday hardcore a few times, is it the same batch ever tub?
Yeah they've all been the same out of the 3 tubs I have used. They all have the white butterflies on the water if you look close enough. Far less numerous than excelsior used to have. Somewhat like excelsior just not as euphoric. Probably would be close if you took 4 scoops but at that point you risk OD so don't do that.
 
Excelsior 9/28 just dropped on ebay for $300..im panicking and putting my card details in now! What a deal for this new Excelsior bunk batch. Better hurry or its mine
 
Excelsior 9/28 just dropped on ebay for $300..im panicking and putting my card details in now! What a deal for this new Excelsior bunk batch. Better hurry or its mine
Hey hey! Don't you dare! That tub is mine bro! Only way to settle this is a bid war and im not going to stop until atleast $600. Come at me brah!
 
Forgot I had these tubs. If anyone is interested make me a good offer.
06/24, 11/25, and 06/26
mostly full, 06/24 got some moisture in it though.
 

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Eva’s lowered their price to $100. Alerts say “fresh batch”. Any one tried theirs and predators. I have one from Pred but in no rush to try it obv after others reviews. Thankfully I have some 11-25 and original 7-26 exp dates.
The one from predator smoothblid is good less is more with that one 3/4 of. A scoop is all I need
 
A couple of years back I found samples of DS Craze, Rize, and Frenzy, must have had them for 10-15 years, they were kind of watery and gooey. I decided to chuck them away, thinking about that now this was stupid, I could have at least tried and tasted it. I just thought it must have been off/ mouldy and no effects left
 
Merry Christmas everyone & hope you all have a good one! Santa might even give us all a silver label tub under our trees.
 
Hey chads new here just wanted to ask is there any marketplaces other than ebay to get older excelsior. I use it as a daily driver and 10/28 is comparable to C4. It's 2026 why is harder to get heavy hitting pre workouts like from 2024 excelsior. You would think it would be easier!?
 
Hey chads new here just wanted to ask is there any marketplaces other than ebay to get older excelsior. I use it as a daily driver and 10/28 is comparable to C4. It's 2026 why is harder to get heavy hitting pre workouts like from 2024 excelsior. You would think it would be easier!?
Why would it be easier in 2026 to get a pre workout that had drugs in it?
 
Hey chads new here just wanted to ask is there any marketplaces other than ebay to get older excelsior. I use it as a daily driver and 10/28 is comparable to C4. It's 2026 why is harder to get heavy hitting pre workouts like from 2024 excelsior. You would think it would be easier!?
No, eBay is the only option sadly , or once in a while someone on here will have a tub for sale
 
My two biggest questions are:

1) how could OG excelsior go on for so many years without getting banned like craze? I mean.. The first two three years of excelsior, the stuff was close to OG craze.

2) Why does it take so long for the next pwo with wings to come out?

I mean doomsd original is still good. But its not close to craze or excelsior og..
 
I can't speak to actual meth, as I've never had the pleasure of buying crank from a biker and smoking it with a tatted-up single mother of 4 named something like Skyy that you'd promise to take away from her stripper life (just guessing that's how it works), but I will say it blew Adderall and Excelsior out of the water.

I would hit a scoop of it (it was the exact same sized scoop and tub that Excelsior came in...hmm...) and then lift for, no joke, like 2.5 hours. I would get lost in my music and just obliterate workouts. I had severe knee surgery in like 2012 and lost all gains imaginable. When I was able to bend my knee again, and with the power of Craze, I put on 40 pounds of muscle in less than a year. I would just take this ****, lift like an animal, and then go home and be like "I can't wait to do this again". It was the best of times.

And you could just order this **** from bodybuilding.com or go to GNC and get it for less than 50 bucks. Dear God, take me back to the early 2010's.
Srsly. Was one of the best moments. Wish there’s a new craze that we just haven’t found yet lol. Detonate fat burner was good too. I could lift and run for miles and not get tired.
 
I wonder how fast we will pick up when a "new craze" comes a long.

With craze, it took a year or so before i tried it. Think it was late 2012 or early 2013.

Excelsior i dont remember. But it was allready on predator a while before i tried it. After craze went away, i used frenzy and hydrazine as my goto pwo.

But i think i started using excelsior mid 2018 or something like that. It was almost like craze was back
 
I wonder how fast we will pick up when a "new craze" comes a long.

With craze, it took a year or so before i tried it. Think it was late 2012 or early 2013.

Excelsior i dont remember. But it was allready on predator a while before i tried it. After craze went away, i used frenzy and hydrazine as my goto pwo.

But i think i started using excelsior mid 2018 or something like that. It was almost like craze was back
Wesley gave a great interview on both of these, you can watch video here if you haven't seen:

 
My two biggest questions are:

1) how could OG excelsior go on for so many years without getting banned like craze? I mean.. The first two three years of excelsior, the stuff was close to OG craze.

2) Why does it take so long for the next pwo with wings to come out?

I mean doomsd original is still good. But its not close to craze or excelsior og..
Because the owner, Matt Cahill, made enemies, and people invested a lot of time to wreck him. And he made enemies because of pride, greed, and being an overall dickhead.
 
I got the new crze and it’s pretty decent. Definitely more than your standard caffeine but nothing crazy. Kind of on the same scale as doomsday but different. But I will say that crze combined with other stims or methylcyclazodone seems to exponentially make the other stim stronger. I haven’t tried it too many times but the 2-3 times I’ve done it that seems to be the case
 
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