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Excelsior pre workout

zufir said:
definitely the phenibut potentiates the stim

I tried taking phenibut the night before a stim day and taking it after a stim day for sleep and there are much more benefits taking it the night before as my trainings are more intense and the stim is more potent, whereas taking it after a stim day only simply makes me sleep better.

The problem with taking phenibut to help you sleep is that it doesn’t help you fall asleep but only helps while you are asleep so if you are taking a strong stim preworkout that makes you fidgety, you’ll still need something else to make you sleep.

I’ve only taken phenibut at night for sleep purposes though or more like somatomax
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Wow didn’t think it would help taken the night before you actually workout. Phenibut can take a couple hours to work so maybe try a small dose before your preworkout might be even better. If nothing else I’d think it would maximise the euphoric aspects of excelsior type preworkouts.
 
zufir said:
Maybe you’re right because Dark labs products do nothing for me. Crack, crack gold, flames, etc.
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Yeah I think so too. People who’ve never taken the stronger stuff will definitely grade all those highly but I’m like you on that front. Once you dance with excelsior, things are never the same after.
 
Maximiliaan said:
Wow didn’t think it would help taken the night before you actually workout. Phenibut can take a couple hours to work so maybe try a small dose before your preworkout might be even better. If nothing else I’d think it would maximise the euphoric aspects of excelsior type preworkouts.
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Someone suggested this as well but I don’t want to go down the rabbit hole of mixing different chemicals together just to get a chest workout 😂
 
zufir said:
Someone suggested this as well but I don’t want to go down the rabbit hole of mixing different chemicals together just to get a chest workout 😂
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if he’s not gone off the deep end after his last series of posts we can probably rely on muscleman to try that combo out the next time he’s going to commune with nature and dance the night away. I hope that guy is just on a long overdue stim break.
 
I almost think the thermals from Eva are better than the exelsior…
They both slap

thermals make me look forward to the morning lol
 
tstrogo93 said:
I almost think the thermals from Eva are better than the exelsior…
They both slap

thermals make me look forward to the morning lol
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Do you have an exp date for the thermals from Eva’s? Are they the same as Predator? I have a few different batches and the new one is good but the 4/24 hits sooooo goooood
 
My 7/26 is chu nky white with a little pinks specks
 

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tstrogo93 said:
Yessir
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My most recent tub (exp. 11/25) from Predator doesn't have the crystals like the OG tubs from ~2020 used to have; instead, it has solid white little pebbles (not see-through) that almost look like dried chunks of clumped powder sugar. Sounds like I need to order a tub from Eva's
 
SpicedCider said:
My most recent tub (exp. 11/25) from Predator doesn't have the crystals like the OG tubs from ~2020 used to have; instead, it has solid white little pebbles (not see-through) that almost look like dried chunks of clumped powder sugar. Sounds like I need to order a tub from Eva's
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@BigGame84 I think would agree with me…. Don’t sleep on Eva’s, their stuff is legit good.

+1 on that 09/26 thermal spark and 07/26 excelsior….
 
check out predator instagram as they’ve posted (that all imperial stuff is there’s and so whatever Eva etc may have would be identical to their stuff cos it’s all made for PN ultimately. They have the 7/26 batch and 2 others.
 
Maximiliaan said:
check out predator instagram as they’ve posted (that all imperial stuff is there’s and so whatever Eva etc may have would be identical to their stuff cos it’s all made for PN ultimately. They have the 7/26 batch and 2 others.
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Always got good stuff from Predator too. One of the few people that loved Doomsday and still want to try a sample of Doomsday Hardcore.

Who said predator had fake tubs? Predator is in the UK, Eva’s is stateside……anyone with ability to drive there to purchase in person would do so because it’s easier….
 
Carolina Kid said:
Always got good stuff from Predator too. One of the few people that loved Doomsday and still want to try a sample of Doomsday Hardcore.

Who said predator had fake tubs? Predator is in the UK, Eva’s is stateside……anyone with ability to drive there to purchase in person would do so because it’s easier….
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I think someone higher up mentioned Eva had different or stronger batches of TS/E and just cos they mentioned a batch nobody would know about as it hadn’t shipped to their customers yet, I’m guessing they responded to the comments.
 
tstrogo93 said:
I almost think the thermals from Eva are better than the exelsior…
They both slap

thermals make me look forward to the morning lol
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I been taking the 04/2024. When I first started taking it about two months ago, that **** was slapping hard. Giving me euphoria. Lately I don’t get that euphoria, but the workout is still awesome. (Maybe I been taking it often)I only take one cap. I also have 09/26 TS from Predator from the black Friday deal, and it doesn’t seem to slap at all, maybe is just my mind. So I stopped taking it about 2 months ago and jumped to 04/2024, which slapped hard. Not sure if the 09/26 from predator is different from Eva. I might have to make a trip to the NYC. Anyways will test run 09/26 from predator again to see if is any good again.
 
Ive been ordering from predator for a year or two now never had any issues with anything I've got from them except doomsday. Which I should apologize about bashing them they have had great costumer service great products and fast shipping haven't tried the new thermal spark from them but will once I run out of the ones I have
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Ive been ordering from predator for a year or two now never had any issues with anything I've got from them except doomsday. Which I should apologize about bashing them they have had great costumer service great products and fast shipping haven't tried the new thermal spark from them but will once I run out of the ones I have
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Honestly looking back dooms day wasn't that bad just over priced and marketed wrong thinking about getting the doomsday excelsior stack if it goes if the price gets reasonable enough also wanna try hardcore a lote personally I don't wanna get high I just want to get that different stim energy you get from excelsior and ts
 
Maximiliaan said:
I think someone higher up mentioned Eva had different or stronger batches of TS/E and just cos they mentioned a batch nobody would know about as it hadn’t shipped to their customers yet, I’m guessing they responded to the comments.
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I wouldn't say fake for sure I would say everything I have ever gotten from Eva's has been the best batches I have used from the beginning and same holds true for the latest batches.

Could also be a coincidence but I never got a tub from evas that didn't have a seal on the inside of the tub when I first opened it.

Predator has sent me tubs without the seal on it multiple times.

This could be a coincidence but worth mentioning.
 
Maximiliaan said:
I think someone higher up mentioned Eva had different or stronger batches of TS/E and just cos they mentioned a batch nobody would know about as it hadn’t shipped to their customers yet, I’m guessing they responded to the comments.
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I wouldn't say fake for sure I would say everything I have ever gotten from Eva's has been the best batches I have used from the beginning and same holds true for the latest batches.

Could also be a coincidence but I never got a tub from evas that didn't have a seal on the inside of the tub when I first opened it.

Predator has sent me tubs without the seal on it multiple times.

This could be a coincidence but worth mentioning.
 
I can't speak for Predator as I've never ordered Imperial from them.

I've only purchased from Eva's and never a bad batch. Eva's has supported Imperial Nutrition from the beginning and I wouldn't be surprised if the Eva's owner and Imperial owner are very close.
 
I've been trying to order from Predator Nutrition for months, using different debit cards and credit cards and every time I go to check out it says there is problem processing the payment. It has worked before I've had at least 2 successful orders from Predator Nutrition over the past 2 or 3 years. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to pay? Do they not accept American debit and credit cards anymore? It's frustrating, I've tried editing the addresses and putting them over and over again, countless times and I keep getting the same error. Anyone else have this problem and if you have, did you ever figure out how to get your payment/card to go through?
 
Mushroomhead said:
I've been trying to order from Predator Nutrition for months, using different debit cards and credit cards and every time I go to check out it says there is problem processing the payment. It has worked before I've had at least 2 successful orders from Predator Nutrition over the past 2 or 3 years. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to pay? Do they not accept American debit and credit cards anymore? It's frustrating, I've tried editing the addresses and putting them over and over again, countless times and I keep getting the same error. Anyone else have this problem and if you have, did you ever figure out how to get your payment/card to go through?
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I've had a similar issue in the past, but all I remember is that I was eventually able to get my order through. I did email them about the problem, but I don't remember if they did something or if my order just went through later on with the same ordering process. It might have been a browser issue. Try a different browser maybe or check ad blocker/allow pop-ups or other settings.
 
Mushroomhead said:
I've been trying to order from Predator Nutrition for months, using different debit cards and credit cards and every time I go to check out it says there is problem processing the payment. It has worked before I've had at least 2 successful orders from Predator Nutrition over the past 2 or 3 years. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to pay? Do they not accept American debit and credit cards anymore? It's frustrating, I've tried editing the addresses and putting them over and over again, countless times and I keep getting the same error. Anyone else have this problem and if you have, did you ever figure out how to get your payment/card to go through?
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What bank do you use? Depending on your bank's automated fraud prevention protocols, they may be flagging it as a fraudulent transaction. The next time you try to place an order with Predator, have your banking app open on your phone when you place the order and see if the app gives you a notification asking you to approve the transaction. This happened to me with several orders before my bank's fraud prevention algorithm finally started recognizing the transactions as legitimate.
 
Mushroomhead said:
I've been trying to order from Predator Nutrition for months, using different debit cards and credit cards and every time I go to check out it says there is problem processing the payment. It has worked before I've had at least 2 successful orders from Predator Nutrition over the past 2 or 3 years. What am I doing wrong? Is there another way to pay? Do they not accept American debit and credit cards anymore? It's frustrating, I've tried editing the addresses and putting them over and over again, countless times and I keep getting the same error. Anyone else have this problem and if you have, did you ever figure out how to get your payment/card to go through?
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ya you have to call the number on the card usually to authorize it .

Esp with no cards in my experience
 
Speaking of PN , I found a uk based supplier of Doomsday after a quick google search. Price roughly the same and they put a few other samples in with it which I’ll use

Main thing , and this is the main thing I received it within 2 days as opposed to the 10 days it’s currently taking of PN

Will still use PN for other bits but nice to have a quick delivery like that
 
im late to the party. just tried excelsior for 1st time and im in NYC, with multiple Eva's stores. I know... shameful lol. So Tried one scoop of the red 11/25 tub it was from predator though. it was underwhelming. But... at 2 rounded scoops i was flying ✈ and then couldnt sleep. will take it easy with it, and use sparingly. aaand im finally going to Eva's this weekend 🎉
 
bobby.brooklyn said:
im late to the party. just tried excelsior for 1st time and im in NYC, with multiple Eva's stores. I know... shameful lol. So Tried one scoop of the red 11/25 tub it was from predator though. it was underwhelming. But... at 2 rounded scoops i was flying ✈ and then couldnt sleep. will take it easy with it, and use sparingly. aaand im finally going to Eva's this weekend 🎉
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Welcome to the club
 
BigGame84 said:
I can't speak for Predator as I've never ordered Imperial from them.

I've only purchased from Eva's and never a bad batch. Eva's has supported Imperial Nutrition from the beginning and I wouldn't be surprised if the Eva's owner and Imperial owner are very close.
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I thought the imperial ruled?
Or have fallen fallen from those good times when it was a given That a deserving manin a good position would be fed grapes by by half naked gorgeous nymphs while receiving a relaxin footbath after a long days? and a sip of Purple edition O.G. Grape Excelsior :)
 
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Maximiliaan said:
I think someone higher up mentioned Eva had different or stronger batches of TS/E and just cos they mentioned a batch nobody would know about as it hadn’t shipped to their customers yet, I’m guessing they responded to the comments.
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I don’t think the Predator Thermal spark is like the OG thermal spark at all. I still have an opened OG thermal spark and I tried a cap of it again recently to compare and OG is levels above this sh1t. I haven’t tried Eva’s thermal spark though.
 
I don't know about the new thermal spark but I've got four of the 4/24 bottles and they are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.... And the new 7/26 excelsior I've got is super 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
 
Justjoe7989 said:
I don't know about the new thermal spark but I've got four of the 4/24 bottles and they are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.... And the new 7/26 excelsior I've got is super 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Neither came from predator the 10/25 excelsior I got from them was pretty good but not close to the 7/26 (I got the 7/26 from a guy claiming to get it straight from imperial)
 
Maximiliaan said:
Wow didn’t think it would help taken the night before you actually workout. Phenibut can take a couple hours to work so maybe try a small dose before your preworkout might be even better. If nothing else I’d think it would maximise the euphoric aspects of excelsior type preworkouts.
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Phenibut has very long lasting effects even if they aren’t noticeable - if you take it the night before it is very likely there will be effects the next morning
 
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