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Excelsior pre workout

The problem with double scooping doomsday to is the cost ! The tub landed to me was €108 or thereabouts for 30 servings .
The review bros -review I agree with .
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Nah my dudes just crushed a two hour work out trained back and chest just kept going and going like the Energizer bunny in the zone for real!!! Laser focus kinda like excelsior but a tad different no crazy heart rate just tunnell vision set after set after set after set sisnt wanna stop!!! The harder I worked the harder dooms day worked I completely change my views on this one!!! I took two heaping scoops and kapow!!
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Maybe u were just having a good day🤷🏻‍♂️
 
muscleman said:
You type almost like you have Excelsior induced mania? No offense meant fellow Excelsorian!
I myself have done that many times but feel a bit more chilled on 11/25 so gonna slip back into contentment enjoy 👍💪

I am glad you did get some enjoyment from my Excelsior mania induced typing that aslo was based on many experiences in my life , the typing us and we all are to a degree more or less.
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Well, it's difficult to tell because instead of taking Excelsior straightaway I spread it throughout the day in order to minimize (rather uncomfortable) side effects, so there are times I am sure I am below the minimum active dose threshold. But with an ADHD scattered brain with executive dysfunction like mine you never know. Attention deficit is sometimes intertwined with hyperfocus when it's one of your topics of special interest. But to answer your question more specifically: I was pretty chilled out, and not especially in a 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈 superpowered wired Excelsior enhanced mode 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈, when I wrote those paragraphs, though I had been composing them in my mind during previous months.

But I agree with you regarding stim enhanced writing: it's very motivating and for some it is an equally important hobby/passion as weight lifting can be for others. I was quite perplexed several pages back, when all the Doomsday PWO argument started, to read some people vehemently stating that "preworkouts are for working out" or something like that. As if being able to function at work and all the exhausting daily routine that starts with the not so easy task of getting out of bed wasn't equally (or way more, in my view) important.
 
My experience started out great with a half-scoop of smash. But after the workout was done my heart rate kept going up, to the point where I actually became concerned. Mind you, I've taken excelsior, dark labs pre's, etc. I'm no stranger to these things but this one actually concerned me because of how fast my heart was going. Needless to say, won't be using it anymore. Half a scoop was all it took for me to lose interest.
 
DinnerTable² said:
My experience started out great with a half-scoop of smash. But after the workout was done my heart rate kept going up, to the point where I actually became concerned. Mind you, I've taken excelsior, dark labs pre's, etc. I'm no stranger to these things but this one actually concerned me because of how fast my heart was going. Needless to say, won't be using it anymore. Half a scoop was all it took for me to lose interest.
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How high did it go?
 
Justjoe7989 said:
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I just took it this morning the 11/25 all white powder excelsior from predator...
I took a scoop and a half it's similar to the other 11/25 but not the same less drive and focus more euphoric and cleaner I would guess there's a different sauce in it it's good.....just not the same
Still feeling it 6 hrs later will have to do some more research with two scoops but all in all it's good
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Are you sure your 2 different 11/25 tubs feel different to you? Same lot number? Do the powder look different?
Been loving my 11/25, never thought it was gonna get this good again. 5/25 I felt but a bit dodgy , same with 10/25 but 11/25 gives a feeling of contentment
junetwentyfour said:
Well, it's difficult to tell because instead of taking Excelsior straightaway I spread it throughout the day in order to minimize (rather uncomfortable) side effects, so there are times I am sure I am below the minimum active dose threshold. But with an ADHD scattered brain with executive dysfunction like mine you never know. Attention deficit is sometimes intertwined with hyperfocus when it's one of your topics of special interest. But to answer your question more specifically: I was pretty chilled out, and not especially in a 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈 superpowered wired Excelsior enhanced mode 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈, when I wrote those paragraphs, though I had been composing them in my mind during previous months.

But I agree with you regarding stim enhanced writing: it's very motivating and for some it is an equally important hobby/passion as weight lifting can be for others. I was quite perplexed several pages back, when all the Doomsday PWO argument started, to read some people vehemently stating that "preworkouts are for working out" or something like that. As if being able to function at work and all the exhausting daily routine that starts with the not so easy task of getting out of bed wasn't equally (or way more, in my view) important.
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I do also have diagnosis as yours although I am quite well or even very good and fast when I am interested.
It was kinda funny it felt a bit like looking into my own mirror reading your text like it could almost have been me, long snd detailed when on the subject.
Good Excelsior is the best I have ever found for increase in motivation boost. The 11/25 has bern really good for my mood as well although I realize that it is also screwing with sleep big time.

By the way I recently reread Tolkiens Ring trilogy and tje Rnts the tree shepherds say that anything worth saying and listening to should take a lobg time be detailed and je Ents stress the importance of not being hasty. 👍
 
Supercellular said:
How high did it go?
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After leaving the gym I went by the local supermarket to get groceries and I used their cuff reader. I remember the bpm was 103, the pressure was mid 130s over 70 something, I can't remember exact numbers. I had the panicky feeling.. whether my experience was mental or not, it was enough to make me not use any "exotic stim" preworkout since.
 
muscleman said:
Are you sure your 2 different 11/25 tubs feel different to you? Same lot number? Do the powder look different?
Been loving my 11/25, never thought it was gonna get this good again. 5/25 I felt but a bit dodgy , same with 10/25 but 11/25 gives a feeling of contentment

I do also have diagnosis as yours although I am quite well or even very good and fast when I am interested.
It was kinda funny it felt a bit like looking into my own mirror reading your text like it could almost have been me, long snd detailed when on the subject.
Good Excelsior is the best I have ever found for increase in motivation boost. The 11/25 has bern really good for my mood as well although I realize that it is also screwing with sleep big time.

By the way I recently reread Tolkiens Ring trilogy and tje Rnts the tree shepherds say that anything worth saying and listening to should take a lobg time be detailed and je Ents stress the importance of not being hasty. 👍
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100 percent different my 11/25 tub I bought three months ago from ruesco and this 11/25 I bought from predator all same lot number one ten was black with a red hue one all black one powder had reddish flakes the other all white two totally different experiences one more focus driven other amped alertness
 
Justjoe7989 said:
100 percent different my 11/25 tub I bought three months ago from ruesco and this 11/25 I bought from predator all same lot number one ten was black with a red hue one all black one powder had reddish flakes the other all white two totally different experiences one more focus driven other amped alertness
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The tub from ruesco is the one with a reddish hue and few flakes of red right ?
 
zufir said:
@CATdiesel76 I don’t think we got the same product for doomsday because my tub texture looks nothing like your tub 😞 I'm pretty sure the red pellets are candy like ''nerds'' candies

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Ok so thank you so much for posting this because I finished my first tub of doomsday before I got my second. And I remembered my first tub looking just like yours and I was like maybe it was all white mike my new one and humidity or something gave it those clumpy red parts (it’s in my car in 100 Georgia weather a lot). But seeing yours I know I’m not crazy and it was grittier with red specs and not all fine and white. Looked like my 6/24 excelsior. I didn’t have any of my old tub left to compare though. good to know I’m not crazy. However, my tub worked. So weird.

So I will be as honest as I possibly can and will say I was wrong about something. After dosing 11/25 excelsior and doomsday lots over this week and even some on the same day, I feel like they both feel exactly the same still. And my new doomsday powder, flavor, coloring etc, feel all the same as excelsior. But I did notice one difference. Previously I said both had the same chemical burn dry scooping. However, my new doomsday doesn’t and excelsior burns bad
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Ok so thank you so much for posting this because I finished my first tub of doomsday before I got my second. And I remembered my first tub looking just like yours and I was like maybe it was all white mike my new one and humidity or something gave it those clumpy red parts (it’s in my car in 100 Georgia weather a lot). But seeing yours I know I’m not crazy and it was grittier with red specs and not all fine and white. Looked like my 6/24 excelsior. I didn’t have any of my old tub left to compare though. good to know I’m not crazy. However, my tub worked. So weird.

So I will be as honest as I possibly can and will say I was wrong about something. After dosing 11/25 excelsior and doomsday lots over this week and even some on the same day, I feel like they both feel exactly the same still. And my new doomsday powder, flavor, coloring etc, feel all the same as excelsior. But I did notice one difference. Previously I said both had the same chemical burn dry scooping. However, my new doomsday doesn’t and excelsior burns bad
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So did the dooms day with the red specks work? If so was it like excelsior? I have the dooms day with the redspecks and for me at two scoops it is extremely effective
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Ok so thank you so much for posting this because I finished my first tub of doomsday before I got my second. And I remembered my first tub looking just like yours and I was like maybe it was all white mike my new one and humidity or something gave it those clumpy red parts (it’s in my car in 100 Georgia weather a lot). But seeing yours I know I’m not crazy and it was grittier with red specs and not all fine and white. Looked like my 6/24 excelsior. I didn’t have any of my old tub left to compare though. good to know I’m not crazy. However, my tub worked. So weird.

So I will be as honest as I possibly can and will say I was wrong about something. After dosing 11/25 excelsior and doomsday lots over this week and even some on the same day, I feel like they both feel exactly the same still. And my new doomsday powder, flavor, coloring etc, feel all the same as excelsior. But I did notice one difference. Previously I said both had the same chemical burn dry scooping. However, my new doomsday doesn’t and excelsior burns bad
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When you say red specks is that something you can take a photo of up close? All mine are kinda pale red/pink but I remember when I first opened it there was more white on top but after a shake it mixed the contents so color was more even. I think the color is just that - coloring. Without it I’d guess all these Preworkouts would look white.
 
Justjoe7989 said:
100 percent different my 11/25 tub I bought three months ago from ruesco and this 11/25 I bought from predator all same lot number one ten was black with a red hue one all black one powder had reddish flakes the other all white two totally different experiences one more focus driven other amped alertness
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Did you say the one with flakes was more energy?
It doesn't surprise me I have seen obvious different looking powders and batches within same containers with same lot number for 8/23 batch.
With Excelsior my mind set is that you will never know how its gonna work until you drink it
 
Supercellular said:
When you say red specks is that something you can take a photo of up close? All mine are kinda pale red/pink but I remember when I first opened it there was more white on top but after a shake it mixed the contents so color was more even. I think the color is just that - coloring. Without it I’d guess all these Preworkouts would look white.
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I will when I get off work
 
Not sure I can justify spending $130 for the new version for such few servings. Just bought two bottles of alpha mood from a local shop here in Charlotte for $70. Adding one of these pills to one scoop of gorilla mode is very euphoric w/ energy and pump. Can anybody tell me if this is comparable to the new version?
 
Supercellular said:
When you say red specks is that something you can take a photo of up close? All mine are kinda pale red/pink but I remember when I first opened it there was more white on top but after a shake it mixed the contents so color was more even. I think the color is just that - coloring. Without it I’d guess all these Preworkouts would look white.
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I will when I get off work
 
Got my 11/25 excelsior (white powder) yesterday. I took it today and cmon guys there is zero difference to 10/25.....i like excelsior a lot but it's both feel same.... always use 2 scoops with 2 euphoria caps from dark labs...training is always top! I personally prefer the 6/24 it feels more nasty but you have to pay the price next day 🥵
 
zufir said:
Smash is a productive hyper tunnel vision laser focus preworkout. You take it when you wanna get **** done.

Excelsior is what I call a “party preworkout”
I take it to enjoy my workout, enjoy my music and hang out with my gym buddies, have conversations in between sets. If I take enough, I try a PR, if not I just go for high reps
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Most reviews seem to agree on Smash AMF being really good for focus but, at the same time, having the very significant drawback of raising heart rate too much. There's no poison that doesn't become harmless when you dose it below a certain threshold, I wonder if cutting back the dose until no side effects are felt would render the product useless as well. I have been searching for information about the hidden ingredient and, if it really is what they are saying, it shouldn't be wreaking havoc on anyone's cardiovascular system at therapeutic doses. There are two options then:

1) They have put too much hidden ingredient per serving. In this case, reducing serving size as needed until no side effects are felt would be the solution.
2) The crap, such as yohimbine, they have surrounded the main ingredient with is the culprit behind those side effects. One has to wonder why on Earth they put those ingredients to spoil the product.
 
junetwentyfour said:
Most reviews seem to agree on Smash AMF being really good for focus but, at the same time, having the very significant drawback of raising heart rate too much. There's no poison that doesn't become harmless when you dose it below a certain threshold, I wonder if cutting back the dose until no side effects are felt would render the product useless as well. I have been searching for information about the hidden ingredient and, if it really is what they are saying, it shouldn't be wreaking havoc on anyone's cardiovascular system at therapeutic doses. There are two options then:

1) They have put too much hidden ingredient per serving. In this case, reducing serving size as needed until no side effects are felt would be the solution.
2) The crap, such as yohimbine, they have surrounded the main ingredient with is the culprit behind those side effects. One has to wonder why on Earth they put those ingredients to spoil the product.
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I don’t know why it wouldn’t be on the label but I feel like Smash has dmaa or dmha of some sort. Certain side effects I’ve had are almost identical to stuff I’ve had from pres that claim dmaa. I think it has this in addition to whatever other unlisted ingredient it may have
 
Supercellular said:
When you say red specks is that something you can take a photo of up close? All mine are kinda pale red/pink but I remember when I first opened it there was more white on top but after a shake it mixed the contents so color was more even. I think the color is just that - coloring. Without it I’d guess all these Preworkouts would look white.
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The red specks are irrelevant. I had those on a couple of tubs of 09/21 that arrived during a hot weather period. As the product degraded further they became less noticeable as the whole product became darker and clumpy. Bear in mind that, before getting to you, the tubs have to stand less than ideal conditions for several days or weeks, sometimes really, really hot temperatures inside a vehicle. In fact I am quite surprised that they reach their final destination relatively unscathed. I am quite convinced that powder colour and texture variability have to do with three variables: time (how long ago it was manufactured), temperature (hot weather conditions) and humidity (the longer it has been unsealed the faster it will degrade).

muscleman said:
Did you say the one with flakes was more energy?
It doesn't surprise me I have seen obvious different looking powders and batches within same containers with same lot number for 8/23 batch.
With Excelsior my mind set is that you will never know how its gonna work until you drink it
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08/23 drives me crazy. I think your definition of Excelsior as an (in your own words) "overpriced toxin" fits 08/23 batch like a glove.

Fun fact: several times during the past several months, as I was trying to minimize 08/23 side effects by taking less and less (I reached a point where I would only take 1-2 grams during the whole day) there were a number of times when, as I reached my excelsior's bottle to drink a little more while being concerned about my HR going up too much, I distinctly remember echoing your words in my mind and repeating mentally several times "an overpriced toxin, an overpriced toxin, ..."
 
junetwentyfour said:
11/25 (my mistake)

The tubs I have used so far are these colours:

8/23 is BLACK.
8/24 is RED.

My batch of 8/23-Black is crazy. I cannot take over 1g at once. Way stronger (but not in a good way) than 9/21 gram for gram. I want to finish this 8/23-Black tub once and for all but, at 2g or less a day, it's taking me forever. I don't want to have several tubs opened because, once opened, they tend to degrade way faster than sealed.

I remember when 8/23 first came out that there were a lot of messages comparing powder consistency with previous OG batches. But that is not really so important, the same powder tends to change a lot in colour, density and consistency as it degrades. The real difference between OG tubs and newer tubs was much more clearer once mixed with water: newer batches were TRANSPARENT red once mixed with water whereas OG batches were opaque red/pink (like strawberry milkshake). With OG there was some material that was in suspension and in 8/23 batches and later it was all in solution (hence the transparent colour). But I don't really think that any of those factors have anything to do with how effective it is, most of the powder is fillers or inactive ingredients, the active constituent is probably just a tiny percentage that doesn't affect how the powder looks or how it mixes. So there is really no point in looking too much into that.
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Out of curiosity, how do you still have these old tubs? Im jealous 😔
 
cfisher52986 said:
I don’t know why it wouldn’t be on the label but I feel like Smash has dmaa or dmha of some sort. Certain side effects I’ve had are almost identical to stuff I’ve had from pres that claim dmaa. I think it has this in addition to whatever other unlisted ingredient it may have
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I don't think DMAA/DMHA/DMBA would give those cardiovascular side effects at reasonable doses. If they are in Smash AMF, they are in addition to whatever other ingredients are behind the side effects.

cfisher52986 said:
Out of curiosity, how do you still have these old tubs? Im jealous 😔
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It takes a lot of time to finish a tub if you only take 2g everyday you use the product and you don't use Excelsior every day either. It's difficult to finish these tubs faster. I am finishing the first 8/23-black tube I've ever taken and, to me, it feels as if I had opened just a few weeks ago but I really opened two years ago. Time flies really fast. So the other 8/23-black tube I had bought back then it's technically expired next month: that's not a problem, it will hold up well for years past the expiration date provided you are really diligent taking proper precautions: never ever put your hands in the container if they are wet (they need to be 100% dry), do not store in the kitchen/car/bathroom (moisture/heat), replace the silica bags in the tub often, leave in the tub only what you are going to use short term, reseal the rest with silica bags. To test the product's freshness it is always important to smell it, bacterial growth gives away a very peculiar odor.

Today I am using 2g of 8/23 (aka the overpriced toxin). I will try to take more if I can to finish it once and for all, but I doubt it. This has been in the opened tub for the last 7 months and it isn't clumpy at all. I always put 2 big silica bags in there and replace them when their indicator turns green.

I think we could give all these batches nicknames:

6/21, 9/21, 10/22: OG Excelsior (these are like the reference standard to compare the newer batches)
8/23 Black: The overpriced toxin
6/24 Red: The functional stim
11/25: White excelsior
 
By the way, speaking of reference standards. Many people consider OG Excelsior to be the reference standard to compare all other PWOs but those who used Craze/Detonate back in 2012 think this should be the reference, as many consider it to be the first and most potent product in this category. But few remember that before Craze there was another product called Slim Xtreme that was by far the most potent (and probably dangerous) product to be sold as a supplement. Others say that the first really was the original (not the one that came later) Stimulant X, but I never got to try that one.
 
cfisher52986 said:
I don’t know why it wouldn’t be on the label but I feel like Smash has dmaa or dmha of some sort. Certain side effects I’ve had are almost identical to stuff I’ve had from pres that claim dmaa. I think it has this in addition to whatever other unlisted ingredient it may have
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100 percent it doesn't have dmma dmha or dmha has some kinda research chem I've used it about 8 times now
 
junetwentyfour said:
The red specks are irrelevant. I had those on a couple of tubs of 09/21 that arrived during a hot weather period. As the product degraded further they became less noticeable as the whole product became darker and clumpy. Bear in mind that, before getting to you, the tubs have to stand less than ideal conditions for several days or weeks, sometimes really, really hot temperatures inside a vehicle. In fact I am quite surprised that they reach their final destination relatively unscathed. I am quite convinced that powder colour and texture variability have to do with three variables: time (how long ago it was manufactured), temperature (hot weather conditions) and humidity (the longer it has been unsealed the faster it will degrade).



08/23 drives me crazy. I think your definition of Excelsior as an (in your own words) "overpriced toxin" fits 08/23 batch like a glove.

Fun fact: several times during the past several months, as I was trying to minimize 08/23 side effects by taking less and less (I reached a point where I would only take 1-2 grams during the whole day) there were a number of times when, as I reached my excelsior's bottle to drink a little more while being concerned about my HR going up too much, I distinctly remember echoing your words in my mind and repeating mentally several times "an overpriced toxin, an overpriced toxin, ..."
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I am glad the rehab preacher within me reached you! I am thinking of rehabbing myself again as we speak. I was quite enjoying 11&25, I have been enjoying it with good mood but continuously all stims are draining.

Was I @cfisher52986 Did you ask how I could have old tubs left? Well I was around when Craze was banned and didn't have time enough to stock up and then I thought same thing was gonna happen to Excelsior so stocked up and at one time I even had 5 different Excelsior tubs open at the same time to be able to compare with them in fresh memory.

But it shows just that this is an addictive supplement. MY PRECIOUSSS!!! I am glad you don't have your closet full of Excelsior tubs @cfisher52986 :) Neither do I actually and I kind of look forward to the day when I will neither drink nor think about Excelsior :ROFLMAO:
 
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The red specks are irrelevant. I had those on a couple of tubs of 09/21 that arrived during a hot weather period. As the product degraded further they became less noticeable as the whole product became darker and clumpy. Bear in mind that, before getting to you, the tubs have to stand less than ideal conditions for several days or weeks, sometimes really, really hot temperatures inside a vehicle. In fact I am quite surprised that they reach their final destination relatively unscathed. I am quite convinced that powder colour and texture variability have to do with three variables: time (how long ago it was manufactured), temperature (hot weather conditions) and humidity (the longer it has been unsealed the faster it will degrade).



08/23 drives me crazy. I think your definition of Excelsior as an (in your own words) "overpriced toxin" fits 08/23 batch like a glove.

Fun fact: several times during the past several months, as I was trying to minimize 08/23 side effects by taking less and less (I reached a point where I would only take 1-2 grams during the whole day) there were a number of times when, as I reached my excelsior's bottle to drink a little more while being concerned about my HR going up too much, I distinctly remember echoing your words in my mind and repeating mentally several times "an overpriced toxin, an overpriced toxin, ..."
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There were a few different 8/23 around I have never myself had such a hear rate spike from Excelsior alone but then with the strong tubs I almost never had more than one scoop but overpriced toxin I almost can't believe I typed that :ROFLMAO:
 
Justjoe7989 said:
100 percent different my 11/25 tub I bought three months ago from ruesco and this 11/25 I bought from predator all same lot number one ten was black with a red hue one all black one powder had reddish flakes the other all white two totally different experiences one more focus driven other amped alertness
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Now I am getting curious about the amped alertness? Did you try 10/22 and was it similar?

My 11/25 has been used daily since I got because I enjoyed the mood boost so much. It has also been good for energy and moving around when I start too and focus and clear active experience is there even after 9 days.
But I am starting to feel tired... the burden is getting heavier, I can barely come out of the bed in the morning just curled up in a corner of the room starvation Ala Gollum perfected; MY PRECIOUSSS IMPERIAL FRUITPUNcH!

Not that bad yet and tapering stims I guess would be recommended som one is not totally zombified in the process.
Most thermogenic Excelsior as well I feel or is it the extra humidity in summer?
 
junetwentyfour said:
Well, it's difficult to tell because instead of taking Excelsior straightaway I spread it throughout the day in order to minimize (rather uncomfortable) side effects, so there are times I am sure I am below the minimum active dose threshold. But with an ADHD scattered brain with executive dysfunction like mine you never know. Attention deficit is sometimes intertwined with hyperfocus when it's one of your topics of special interest. But to answer your question more specifically: I was pretty chilled out, and not especially in a 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈 superpowered wired Excelsior enhanced mode 🌈🚀🦸‍♂️🌈, when I wrote those paragraphs, though I had been composing them in my mind during previous months.

But I agree with you regarding stim enhanced writing: it's very motivating and for some it is an equally important hobby/passion as weight lifting can be for others. I was quite perplexed several pages back, when all the Doomsday PWO argument started, to read some people vehemently stating that "preworkouts are for working out" or something like that. As if being able to function at work and all the exhausting daily routine that starts with the not so easy task of getting out of bed wasn't equally (or way more, in my view) important.
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Rereading your post and I think it is very well written and have a nice structure. I enjoy writing although some parts of academic rules when writing pained my heart with its effort to strangle poetic inspiration as is much in the industrially based society we better train people to follow orders and write as we say.
It would be dangerous to give them too many ideas and they might even start to question some very fundamental bases of the very society they live in,

It took some time tim understand the rules in school and I did understand most of them lol and at times I even excelled and at times the opposite Lol.
And here I am again still the guy in the class who can't stay on topic and can't help but like Spiderman in a less dangerous local streetfight with thugs crack some bad jokes when I am at it :ROFLMAO:
 
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muscleman said:
Now I am getting curious about the amped alertness? Did you try 10/22 and was it similar?

My 11/25 has been used daily since I got because I enjoyed the mood boost so much. It has also been good for energy and moving around when I start too and focus and clear active experience is there even after 9 days.
But I am starting to feel tired... the burden is getting heavier, I can barely come out of the bed in the morning just curled up in a corner of the room starvation Ala Gollum perfected; MY PRECIOUSSS IMPERIAL FRUITPUNcH!

Not that bad yet and tapering stims I guess would be recommended som one is not totally zombified in the process.
Most thermogenic Excelsior as well I feel or is it the extra humidity in summer?
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Yes sir the 11/25 all white from predator was really different from the others it's was amped alertness!! Like a current was running through my body not really on edge or jittery was super alert for 10 hrs
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Yes sir the 11/25 all white from predator was really different from the others it's was amped alertness!! Like a current was running through my body not really on edge or jittery was super alert for 10 hrs
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Haven't tried the 10/22 I became a fellow excelsiorian with the red 6/24 then the dark red 6/24 then 10/25 followed by the dark red 11/25 and last the 11/25 black tub from predator
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Yes sir the 11/25 all white from predator was really different from the others it's was amped alertness!! Like a current was running through my body not really on edge or jittery was super alert for 10 hrs
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I also recently got my white 11/25 and I guess my reaction to some stims isnt typical and because I was used to different Excelsior in the pst these new ones feel more chilled out to me but a lot of energy is surely there if I start to move.
Getting curious Lol How is the different 11/25? Lol Such enigmatic supplement :ROFLMAO:
 
muscleman said:
I also recently got my white 11/25 and I guess my reaction to some stims isnt typical and because I was used to different Excelsior in the pst these new ones feel more chilled out to me but a lot of energy is surely there if I start to move.
Getting curious Lol How is the different 11/25? Lol Such enigmatic supplement :ROFLMAO:well the other 11/25 in the dark red tub provided me with fierce determination and drive laser like focus and energy to back it up!! More like in the zone type feeling with one objective **** **** up in the gym
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Justjoe7989 said:
That one without the ridges has more focus/drive the all white one with the ridges had the amped alertness
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aaah I guess your n tve U,S ? Otherwise I would be really interested. In trading unopened 11/25 witj ridhesfor 11-25 without ridhes?

@zufir whenyou wrote strong as fuark I thougjt it wAs gonna be stronger. But do your tubs lid have ridges on tbe edge pf tbe tub?
 
muscleman said:
aaah I guess your n tve U,S ? Otherwise I would be really interested. In trading unopened 11/25 witj ridhesfor 11-25 without ridhes?

@zufir whenyou wrote strong as fuark I thougjt it wAs gonna be stronger. But do your tubs lid have ridges on tbe edge pf tbe tub?
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I would be interested in the same thing I like the one without ridges better also not the one who wrote strong as fauk
 
It sounds to me like the 11/25 without ridges was the one Predator and Ruesco were selling earlier this year, the original 11/25 with the pink flakes. It was sold out for a few weeks and then predator restocked but it switched to the all white . I think I’ll go with some pink 11/25 today.
also I never noticed before but my 5/24 lid has ridges
 
Were you all aware that predator was out of stock and just restocked again a couple days ago ? Do you think they will switch to a new batch again or will it be the white 11/25 again? I have on on the way 🤞😬I’m gonna be kinda pissed if it’s not the white one
 
cfisher52986 said:
Were you all aware that predator was out of stock and just restocked again a couple days ago ? Do you think they will switch to a new batch again or will it be the white 11/25 again? I have on on the way 🤞😬I’m gonna be kinda pissed if it’s not the white one
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Keep us updated fellow excelsiorian
 
Justjoe7989 said:
Keep us updated fellow excelsiorian
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For sure. I didn’t think twice as soon as it was back in stock I didn’t want to miss out again . But then I realized they might pull the ole switcheroo!🤦🏻‍♂️
On another note do any of y’all guys and girls check eBay everyday like I do to see if anything pops up? Can’t believe there’s a 4/24 tub for 1000$! That is just absurd if he wants to get that much he’ll probably have to wait until it’s the last tub on earth .
300 is my limit. For any 2024😅
 
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