EvoMuse presents...HUNG

Piston Honda said:
Could be interesting to see how this affects bent wieners, I forget the technical term for that, but hopefully the formula doesn’t cause the hungus to curl like a shepherd’s hook
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Peyronies. There's a lot of information about it. This won't necessarily cause it, and should actually prevent the fibrosis that causes it. Now as ti helping it....it's possible, and will depend quite a bit on the technique and aggressiveness of your exercises. Don't get overenthusiastic and cause major damage...we're looking at minor damage that is quickly and easily healed resulting in tissue adaptations...not "scarring".
 
dsade said:
I never rush anything. My name goes on all of my work, and I know that my reputation is on the line with everything I put out. This will be done right.

I will consider sending this with a small bottle of DMSO. It will be *optional to add it into the formula and shake really well. It's the ideal solvent/carrier, especially for ingredients such as the Arachidnonic Acid.
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I should have read a bit more into this thread, are you saying ARA will be within the formula?
 
muree said:
okay here we go.. i have a full time job so most of my length work is squeezed into a regular day..

AM - 15 mins of all stretches (hold times are 30 sec, 60 sec and 90 sec - rotary, A-stretch, downward stretch)
PM - 15 mins of all stretches (hold times are 30 sec, 60 sec and 90 sec -rotary, A-stretch, downward stretch)

use a product called ESL-40 for assisting with the stretches and also wear it as an all day stretch device throughout the day.

At night I use the bathmate 3 days a week for 15-20 mins. this is my current routine but over the years I've done so many different routines, at one point I was doing 600 jelqs a day and my best gains were during that time. The gains from 5 to 7 happened over a period of 8 years :)
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Good Lord...that is some dedication. I was not aware that jelqs could or should be done everyday..
 
lol..oh yeah mediocrity will not be tolerated.. haha. I should have clarified that the jelqs were only 5 days a week.In the beginning theres a lot of fatigue but after a few years the regular jelqs are nothing more than a warmup for clamping, pumping.. etc
 
Okay idk about this shiit anymore lmao. Think ill just be happy with the 6.5 inches god gave me.

Clamping, pumping, jelqs, WTF is going on here. Sounds like a horror movie

Except for bathmate, that part sounds like it could be a good time
 
ZachH said:
Okay idk about this shiit anymore lmao. Think ill just be happy with the 6.5 inches god gave me.

Clamping, pumping, jelqs, WTF is going on here. Sounds like a horror movie
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lol.. your post cracked me up. agree with the happy part.. unfortunately for e happiness seems to be fleeting
 
CJNator said:
I should have read a bit more into this thread, are you saying ARA will be within the formula?
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Correct. At barely 300 daltons it will still work in a topical. The 2-series prostaglandins are one of the major signaling molecules that trigger repair and growth.
 
ZachH said:
Okay idk about this shiit anymore lmao. Think ill just be happy with the 6.5 inches god gave me.

Clamping, pumping, jelqs, WTF is going on here. Sounds like a horror movie

Except for bathmate, that part sounds like it could be a good time
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You know on the internet we have to automatically subtract 2.5 inches. 4 inches it is ?
 
cubsfan815 said:
You know on the internet we have to automatically subtract 2.5 inches. 4 inches it is ��
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Lmao thats fine with me as long as i dont have to do any clamping or other methods of war prisoner torture.

I thought HUNG was going to be like miracle gro but now its sounding quite complicated
 
ZachH said:
Lmao thats fine with me as long as i dont have to do any clamping or other methods of war prisoner torture.

I thought HUNG was going to be like miracle gro but now its sounding quite complicated
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It's like anything else, you're going to get the most if you put in the most effort. However, it can be as simple as grabbing one of those rubber rings (a bit snug) and some lube and spend 10-15 minutes letting the blood engorge and stretch everything (more for girth, but it will put forward pressure as well).
 
dsade said:
It's like anything else, you're going to get the most if you put in the most effort. However, it can be as simple as grabbing one of those rubber rings (a bit snug) and some lube and spend 10-15 minutes letting the blood engorge and stretch everything (more for girth, but it will put forward pressure as well).
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Now that doesn't sound too bad at all
 
The Bathmate is what I want to try the most....that sounds like fun!

I just don't know how I would ever explain it to my fiancé if she were to find it....even worse to catch me in the act.
 
Ricky10 said:
The Bathmate is what I want to try the most....that sounds like fun!

I just don't know how I would ever explain it to my fiancé if she were to find it....even worse to catch me in the act.
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Penis Exfoliator?
 
dsade said:
It's like anything else, you're going to get the most if you put in the most effort. However, it can be as simple as grabbing one of those rubber rings (a bit snug) and some lube and spend 10-15 minutes letting the blood engorge and stretch everything (more for girth, but it will put forward pressure as well).
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Will you provide some kind of guide with the product or leave each individual to figure out best way for them.. some kind pdf guide would be great.. ps taking this seriously
 
00A said:
Will you provide some kind of guide with the product or leave each individual to figure out best way for them.. some kind pdf guide would be great.. ps taking this seriously
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Yeah, I can put together a user's guide.
 
That would actually help keep a constant guideline for users.
 
00A said:
Will you provide some kind of guide with the product or leave each individual to figure out best way for them.. some kind pdf guide would be great.. ps taking this seriously
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dsade said:
Yeah, I can put together a user's guide.
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Ultimately, I am starting to think Matt might be getting a little desperate for attention and this may just be a ploy for getting some d1ck pics. No big deal, just a little upset I wasn't asked to be on board for the "beta" testing.

I'm sure he plans on posting plenty of user videos for the "guide".
 
“It ain’t the size of your pencil, it’s how you sign your name”
—Dave Mustaine

“If you feel you need a bigger wiener, maybe your woman just needs a vag reduction”
—Me
 
HIT4ME said:
Ultimately, I am starting to think Matt might be getting a little desperate for attention and this may just be a ploy for getting some d1ck pics. No big deal, just a little upset I wasn't asked to be on board for the "beta" testing.

I'm sure he plans on posting plenty of user videos for the "guide".
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Drawing the line at a how to video lol.
 
I’m in for logging, if you can fit me in there. I’m already familiar with PE so I’d love to see the difference this could make to my current exercises.
 
“Log” haha
 
Finally, I will be increasing expression of Heat Shock Protein 72, tied to both musclular hypertrophy and a healthy nitric oxide pathway.
 
Studied in Skeletal Muscle, but also applies to smooth muscle (at least in this case). Blood flow restriction (from jelqing, occlusion, etc) causes a rapid rise in HSP72, decrease in myostatin, and increases of nitric oxide synthase.

Skeletal muscle hypertrophy after chronic restriction of venous blood flow in rats.
Kawada S1, Ishii N.
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Erratum in

Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2005 Oct;37(10):1824.

Abstract
PURPOSE:

Some previous studies have shown that resistance exercise training with venous occlusion causes an enhanced hypertrophy in human muscles. To investigate the effects of blood flow on muscular size at either cellular or subcellular level, we developed an animal model in which several veins from hindlimb muscles of the rat are surgically crush-occluded.
METHODS:

Twenty-four male Wister rats were randomly assigned into either a group for sham operation (sham group) or a group for venous occlusion (experimental group; N = 12 for each group). Fourteen days after the operation, plantaris, soleus, gastrocnemius, extensor digitorum longus, and tibialis anterior muscles were dissected from hindlimbs and subjected to morphological and biochemical analyses.
RESULTS:

Fourteen days after the operation, the muscles expect for soleus showed similar increases in wet weight/body weight (by 7-12%) as compared with the sham-operated group (P < 0.05). Further analyses on the plantaris muscle showed increases in muscle dry weight/ body weight (by 10%) and the concentrations of myofibrillar protein (by 23%), glycogen (by 93%) and lactate (by 23%) after the operation (P < 0.05). Mean fiber cross-sectional area was larger by 34% in the experimental group than in the sham-operated group (P < 0.01). The content of HSP-72 increased, whereas that of myostatin protein decreased (P < 0.01). The expression of nitric oxide synthase-1 (NOS-1) mRNA increased (P < 0.01), whereas that of IGF-1 mRNA showed no significant change (P = 0.36). Although the muscle nitric oxide (NO) concentration tended to increase, but the change was not significant (P = 0.10).
CONCLUSIONS:

Changes in muscle blood flow may affect the muscular size through actions of HSP-72, myostatin, and NOS-1.

PMID:
16015131

[Indexed for MEDLINE]
 
Also helps prevent fibrotic responses to mechano-thermal stressors.

Cardiovasc Res. 2012 Dec 1;96(3):524-32. doi: 10.1093/cvr/cvs278. Epub 2012 Aug 29.
Induction of intracellular heat-shock protein 72 prevents the development of vascular smooth muscle cell calcification.
Lu TS1, Lim K, Molostvov G, Yang YC, Yiao SY, Zehnder D, Hsiao LL.
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Abstract
AIMS:

Vascular calcification (VC) is a significant contributor to cardiovascular mortality in patients with chronic kidney disease (CKD) and coronary artery disease (CAD). Osteo/chondrocytic transformation and simultaneous dedifferentiation of smooth muscle cells (SMCs) are important in the pathogenesis of VC. Heat-shock protein 72 (HSP72) is a cardioprotective inducible heat-shock protein that functions as a molecular chaperone. However, its role in the development of accelerated vascular dysfunction and calcification is largely unexplored.
METHODS AND RESULTS:

We describe for the first time marked reduction in HSP72 expression in arteries from patients with CKD and CAD, compared with healthy controls, in vivo. Induction of HSP72 by heat-shock treatment (HST) significantly prevented the development of calcification of human aortic smooth muscle cells (HA-SMCs), in vitro. These anti-calcific effects were abolished following treatment with both quercetin, an HST inhibitor, and HSP72 siRNA knockdown. Induction of HSP72 suppressed Cbfa-1-dependent osteo/chondrocytic transformation and stabilized SMC contractile phenotype through the myocardin-serum response factor (SRF) pathway. Co-immunoprecipitation studies demonstrated physical association between SRF and HSP72. Furthermore, organ culture of arteries from CKD and CAD patients showed that these arteries retained their ability to induce HSP72 following HST, despite initially reduced expression.
CONCLUSION:

Our study shows for the first time that intracellular HSP72 may function as a central regulator of molecular pathways involved in the development of VC. We suggest treatment strategies that up-regulate HSP72 as a new approach to inhibit VC.

PMID:
22933322
DOI:
10.1093/cvr/cvs278

[Indexed for MEDLINE]
 
dsade said:
Finally, I will be increasing expression of Heat Shock Protein 72, tied to both musclular hypertrophy and a healthy nitric oxide pathway.
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Hey man,

In your studies have you come across the effects of “stim dick” I been taking high stim preworkout Re1gn and notice this effect, others do not get it. Its like putting your dick and balls in freezing water. Something to do with circulation and where body draws blood from. So im wondering even Hang may have different effect on people.

Thoughts???
 
00A said:
Hey man,

In your studies have you come across the effects of “stim dick” I been taking high stim preworkout Re1gn and notice this effect, others do not get it. Its like putting your dick and balls in freezing water. Something to do with circulation and where body draws blood from. So im wondering even Hang may have different effect on people.

Thoughts???
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I get the same thing, especially with Yohimbine and ephedrine (a paradoxical reaction). Biochemistry is different with everyone, but especially combined with the blood flow enhancement exercises you should have a dramatic carryover effect that will sustain the increased blood flow for an extended period of time.
 
dsade said:
I get the same thing, especially with Yohimbine and ephedrine (a paradoxical reaction). Biochemistry is different with everyone, but especially combined with the blood flow enhancement exercises you should have a dramatic carryover effect that will sustain the increased blood flow for an extended period of time.
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So this would be helpful for someone who's on ECY year round lol
 
00A said:
Hey man,

In your studies have you come across the effects of “stim dick” I been taking high stim preworkout Re1gn and notice this effect, others do not get it. Its like putting your dick and balls in freezing water. Something to do with circulation and where body draws blood from. So im wondering even Hang may have different effect on people.

Thoughts???
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I am in the same boat as you, the vaso 6 in re1ng does not counter tis effect, good to know
 
alvin1 said:
I am in the same boat as you, the vaso 6 in re1ng does not counter tis effect, good to know
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Yeah, it does it to me too.
High dose DMAA as-well, keep hydrated. If you have HGW on hand, I found it helps counter-act it.
 
AdelV said:
Yeah, it does it to me too.
High dose DMAA as-well, keep hydrated. If you have HGW on hand, I found it helps counter-act it.
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I drink plenty of water per day. Maybe helps alittle.. but long term use maybe damaging so will cut down on pre stims
 
00A said:
I drink plenty of water per day. Maybe helps alittle.. but long term use maybe damaging so will cut down on pre stims
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I've noticed it's gotten worse, to the point it effects my training

I'll finish the tub, and sell off the rest.
 
TRPV4 and stretch-activated stimuli...amplifying the effects of jelqing and other techniques to speed up results.

Came upon this quite by accident today, and made the tie-in to HUNG. Simple to manipulate. Also quite possibly applicable in conjunction with membrane bound lipids such as arachidonic acid to amplify muscle growth in response to workouts.

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Transient receptor potential channels have recently been implicated in physiological functions in a urogenital system. In this study, we investigated the role of transient receptor potential vanilloid 4 (TRPV4) channels in a stretch sensing mechanism in mouse primary urothelial cell cultures. The selective TRPV4 agonist, 4α-phorbol 12,13-didecanoate (4α-PDD) evoked Ca2+ influx in wild-type (WT) urothelial cells, but not in TRPV4-deficient (TRPV4KO) cells. We established a cell-stretch system to investigate stretch-evoked changes in intracellular Ca2+ concentration and ATP release. Stretch stimulation evoked intracellular Ca2+ increases in a stretch speed- and distance-dependent manner in WT and TRPV4KO cells. In TRPV4KO urothelial cells, however, the intracellular Ca2+ increase in response to stretch stimulation was significantly attenuated compared with that in WT cells. Stretch-evoked Ca2+ increases in WT urothelium were partially reduced in the presence of ruthenium red, a broad TRP channel blocker, whereas that in TRPV4KO cells did not show such reduction. Potent ATP release occurred following stretch stimulation or 4α-PDD administration in WT urothelial cells, which was dramatically suppressed in TRPV4KO cells. Stretch-dependent ATP release was almost completely eliminated in the presence of ruthenium red or in the absence of extracellular Ca2+. These results suggest that TRPV4 senses distension of the bladder urothelium, which is converted to an ATP signal in the micturition reflex pathway during urine storage.
 
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