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One thing that I've been wondering is would this help people with actually mental retardation? As I work with same down syndrome and I've always wondered if things like this could help them. I know it won't fix or cure anything but with some of these kids are so close to living normalish lives, as not all cases of downs are as bad as others. So with these kids I was thinking if this could even make a 5% difference that may live a normalish life.
 
That's a tough question, not knowing what the root cause is. They are so varied. It's possible that, with something like autism, that it could make it worse.
 
dsade said:
That's a tough question, not knowing what the root cause is. They are so varied. It's possible that, with something like autism, that it could make it worse.
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That would makes sense, perhaps amplifying obsessive compulsive characteristics of the disorder
 
I just LOVE the fact how it totally clears your mind and sets you in a state of control!

Yesterday afternoon was the skype interview I mentioned a few days ago as it was postponed due to the holidays.

It went well considering the fact that at the beginning I was starting to stress due to tech issues, skype not sending the requests/connecting the call, eventually the interview was completed over the telephone.

But CE made it easier to handle this sudden and unwanted stress and "zone" into the conversation and focus.

 
JulzRulz said:
I just LOVE the fact how it totally clears your mind and sets you in a state of control!

Yesterday afternoon was the skype interview I mentioned a few days ago as it was postponed due to the holidays.

It went well considering the fact that at the beginning I was starting to stress due to tech issues, skype not sending the requests/connecting the call, eventually the interview was completed over the telephone.

But CE made it easier to handle this sudden and unwanted stress and "zone" into the conversation and focus.

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That's what I want to hear about.

Let me know what happens here as far as the results of the interview.
 
I've noticed I'm very chatty with strangers and striking up random conversations in lines at stores or at the gym , walking my dog etc..Ike I'm craving interaction and stimulation
 
chedapalooza said:
I've noticed I'm very chatty with strangers and striking up random conversations in lines at stores or at the gym , walking my dog etc..Ike I'm craving interaction and stimulation
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Yep. I'm pretty much as introverted as they come and it makes me actually enjoy talking to people, somewhat. The thiamine derivatives seem to be the biggest contributors to articulation and verbal mastery, while enhancement of dopaminergic structures make the process both pleasant and addictive...a healthy addiction.
 
chedapalooza said:
I've noticed I'm very chatty with strangers and striking up random conversations in lines at stores or at the gym , walking my dog etc..Ike I'm craving interaction and stimulation
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dsade said:
Yep. I'm pretty much as introverted as they come and it makes me actually enjoy talking to people, somewhat. The thiamine derivatives seem to be the biggest contributors to articulation and verbal mastery, while enhancement of dopaminergic structures make the process both pleasant and addictive...a healthy addiction.
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Well then I'm sold!
 
dsade said:
I'd like to hear everyone's story. How did you get into the lifting lifestyle, especially since everyone here in this forum is smarter than your average bear.

What led you to be here, now?
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Played soccer, basketball, and then football for a season senior year high school. Naturally thin and self conscious at that age so I realized, like many before I'm sure, that I wasn't particularly gifted and that if I was going to be any good I needed to find different avenues to exploit. That led down the bodybuilding rabbit hole and eventually strength and conditioning and performance enhancement in general. Naturally supplements, nutrition, etc have followed that.

I'm also an introvert at my core, as well an a bit of an extremist, so when the bug bit it was an all in kind of thing. It might be the one constant interest that has followed me since I was a kid and has manifested in different ways, most recently with physical therapy and rehabilitation approaches to various injuries I've incurred.

I missed the pre sale, but will definitely be looking out for any more releases. It's been a long time thankfully, but as a person who has suffered multiple concussions I'm very interested in the effects of clear edge as a long term staple supplement along with nerve restore.
 
dsade said:
I'd like to hear everyone's story. How did you get into the lifting lifestyle, especially since everyone here in this forum is smarter than your average bear.

What led you to be here, now?
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I had a bad injury a couple of years back, fell down a (full) flight of stairs, and did massive damage to my right (dominant) shoulder and arm. Got fat during recovery and then even more so while feeling sorry for myself. I finally pulled myself up by my bootstraps shy of 2 years ago now, and am still on a journey to be in better shape and healthier overall. I hit 50 in a couple of months and I want to be in the best shape of my life by the time I hit that milestone. I am already well on my way to achieving that goal (after which I will just set a new goal for myself.. maybe something to accomplish by age 55? :)). I "got here" looking for help on my journey :)
 
Sparkss said:
I had a bad injury a couple of years back, fell down a (full) flight of stairs, and did massive damage to my right (dominant) shoulder and arm. Got fat during recovery and they even more so while feeling sorry for myself. I finally pulled myself up by my bootstraps shy of 2 years ago now, and am still on a journey to be in better shape and healthier overall. I hit 50 in a couple of months and I want to be in the best shape of my life by the time I hit that milestone. I am already well on my way to achieving that goal (after which I will just set a new goal for myself.. maybe something to accomplish by age 55? :)). I "got here" looking for help on my journey :)
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I'm surprised at how many of us ended up here because of unsatisfactory therapy or treatment by modern medicine, and understanding that any chance we have of feeling/getting better is up to us alone...well, not alone - we are all here to help each other out.
 
dsade did you ever experiment with powder to utilize a sublingual absorption method? If so, did you notice any different results compared to the capsules? I know these compounds taste awful, but I'm curious from a purely effect based standpoint.
 
CGunna said:
dsade did you ever experiment with powder to utilize a sublingual absorption method? If so, did you notice any different results compared to the capsules? I know these compounds taste awful, but I'm curious from a purely effect based standpoint.
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The powder actually makes me gag and leaves a horrid taste in my mouth for a good 2 hours, making it hard to concentrate on much of anything. If anyone else wants to try it out, and they don't mind it, it's certainly not unreasonable to offer this a powder.
 
dsade said:
The powder actually makes me gag and leaves a horrid taste in my mouth for a good 2 hours, making it hard to concentrate on much of anything. If anyone else wants to try it out, and they don't mind it, it's certainly not unreasonable to offer this a powder.
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If its that bad I will stick to the caps :p

Also quick user update....still loving Clear Edge. Had a rough time sleeping last week (I had a few weeks off work around Christmas time and last week was my first week back so sleep pattern was all out of whack) but Clear Edge saved me. The mental focus and clarity is even more prominate when you only have 4 hours of sleep, I was amazed at how much this pulled me out of my brain fog.
 
carguy123 said:
If its that bad I will stick to the caps :p

Also quick user update....still loving Clear Edge. Had a rough time sleeping last week (I had a few weeks off work around Christmas time and last week was my first week back so sleep pattern was all out of whack) but Clear Edge saved me. The mental focus and clarity is even more prominate when you only have 4 hours of sleep, I was amazed at how much this pulled me out of my brain fog.
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I notice those effects quite a bit. I have really bad insomnia (got 3 hours of sleep last night with a highly demanding day today. Taking a little longer to wake up, but I can feel that wave of clarity coming on fast.
 
I've had a chance to use clear edge a few more times. Still using it sparingly, so as to not run out. Remain very impressed. I have to admit I really enjoy this pre-workout, as well as for general productivity and focus. Definitely helps get that dialed in feeling both at work and in the gym. Once I'm able to stock up I'm really looking forward to experiencing the cumulative effects. Excellent work, dsade
 
I tried 4 caps the other day and was "OK" but I prefer the 6 caps just as dsade suggests to take atm.

Seriously looking forward for this to go into production so I can take it daily!
 
JulzRulz said:
I tried 4 caps the other day and was "OK" but I prefer the 6 caps just as dsade suggests to take atm.

Seriously looking forward for this to go into production so I can take it daily!
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Once you start dosing 6 caps its hard to go any less...I tried 4 a few times (trying to stretch what I have) and it just wasnt the same
 
carguy123 said:
Once you start dosing 6 caps its hard to go any less...I tried 4 a few times (trying to stretch what I have) and it just wasnt the same
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Yeah, it's really designed for 6 caps for the first dose of the day, though you can get away with a lower dose in the afternoon for a "regular" day. For longer, demanding days (like trade shows, etc) then that's when you want to take 6 caps in the morning and the full 6 caps in the afternoon.
 
dsade said:
Yeah, it's really designed for 6 caps for the first dose of the day, though you can get away with a lower dose in the afternoon for a "regular" day. For longer, demanding days (like trade shows, etc) then that's when you want to take 6 caps in the morning and the full 6 caps in the afternoon.
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I have been doing 6 plus some stims upon waking ( 5:30am) and feel good until about 2:30-3:30 then I return to "baseline". Usually leave work around 4:30-5 so it gets me close enough haha.
 
carguy123 said:
I have been doing 6 plus some stims upon waking ( 5:30am) and feel good until about 2:30-3:30 then I return to "baseline". Usually leave work around 4:30-5 so it gets me close enough haha.
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Following same protocol as you lol, a pwo at 05:00 then at 08:00 CE and at the office a double espresso. Around 15:00 150mg of Bacopa and about 2 hours later I'm usually home.
 
I have tried 6 in the morning and 6 later, 6 in the morning and 3-4 later, 4 in the morning and 4 later, 3 in the morning and 3 later, and my favorite 3+alpha Y in the morning and 3 + alpha Y later. 6+6 and 6+3 booth made me uber focused and mentally exhausted all at once while at night a complete worthless: mentally exhausted and not able to focus for more than a 5-10 seconds. I don't know if I am just super sensitive to one or more of the ingredients, if its is because I am on a ketogenic diet, or a combination of both.

Any recommended gray market noots to add to Clear Edge or support supplements like Tyrosine/NALT, or choline support? I have some racetams I might try adding.
 
Sorry, I meant 4 caps of the correct capsule full, the 6 caps is only for the initial underfilled release.
 
woolbeo said:
I have tried 6 in the morning and 6 later, 6 in the morning and 3-4 later, 4 in the morning and 4 later, 3 in the morning and 3 later, and my favorite 3+alpha Y in the morning and 3 + alpha Y later. 6+6 and 6+3 booth made me uber focused and mentally exhausted all at once while at night a complete worthless: mentally exhausted and not able to focus for more than a 5-10 seconds. I don't know if I am just super sensitive to one or more of the ingredients, if its is because I am on a ketogenic diet, or a combination of both.

Any recommended gray market noots to add to Clear Edge or support supplements like Tyrosine/NALT, or choline support? I have some racetams I might try adding.
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The CDP-choline will cover your choline source. Noopept (at half-dose for me) seems to be just the right amount and does effectively add to the focus effects.

Personally I am absolutely in love with the 9-methyl beta carboline. For me the effects are extremely potent and noticeable, but unfortunately it's a bit noncompliant.
 
Nope. Can't get updates and lead times again, and now we just rolled into Chinese New Year. Going to have to go with an alternate supplier that is $5 more per bottle, but extremely reliable.
 
dsade said:
Nope. Can't get updates and lead times again, and now we just rolled into Chinese New Year. Going to have to go with an alternate supplier that is $5 more per bottle, but extremely reliable.
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Idk mind the extra cost if it means more consistentsy
 
rtmilburn said:
Idk mind the extra cost if it means more consistentsy
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Yeah, I'm just tired of being tired all the time. I'm spending way too much time on low level logistics rather than concentrating on where my strengths lie.

I'll split the difference with you guys - take 2.50 less profit and the product will cost 2.50 more
 
dsade said:
Yeah, I'm just tired of being tired all the time. I'm spending way too much time on low level logistics rather than concentrating on where my strengths lie.

I'll split the difference with you guys - take 2.50 less profit and the product will cost 2.50 more
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Consistency is key! Small price to pay for peace of mind in my opinion
 
I can only speak for myself, but I would much rather pay a few more dollars to get a product reliably than to save a couple dollars to get a product someday.
 
Etomic said:
I can only speak for myself, but I would much rather pay a few more dollars to get a product reliably than to save a couple dollars to get a product someday.
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Ok, you guys got me convinced. Every other supplier is demanding that I do runs that are 3-4x the size and there's just no way.

Just waiting on one invoice to clear then we'll send it over. Not sure what even happened to the other supplier.
 
Did you consider using acetyl-l-carnitine arginate? In this or nerve restore? As I was reading in a couple studies that it mimic NGF in the brain and seem to produce an effect actually stronger than NGF
 
Im in for 6 bottles if there is a pre-release sale.

I could use an alphaburn 3 pack to go along with it too.
 
rtmilburn said:
Did you consider using acetyl-l-carnitine arginate? In this or nerve restore? As I was reading in a couple studies that it mimic NGF in the brain and seem to produce an effect actually stronger than NGF
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Sounds like something i might consider adding the the Flawless DFH.
 
dsade Has any one else seen this...
(I'm not able to post links but it's on the PricePlow Blog and it's the latest article on an insane "never before done" nootropic called AZOTH)
I love Clear Edge but this has me very intrigued. The Noopept dosage is high but as the formulators explain, there is a reason for that. Also, it's only meant to be taken every other day with only 10 doses a month. I assume that's because of the tolerance build up of phenylpiracetam. I would love some feedback. Matt, I would love to know what you think most of all since you are the creator of Clear Edge which I love.
 
offredjo said:
dsade Has any one else seen this...
(I'm not able to post links but it's on the PricePlow Blog and it's the latest article on an insane "never before done" nootropic called AZOTH)
I love Clear Edge but this has me very intrigued. The Noopept dosage is high but as the formulators explain, there is a reason for that. Also, it's only meant to be taken every other day with only 10 doses a month. I assume that's because of the tolerance build up of phenylpiracetam. I would love some feedback. Matt, I would love to know what you think most of all since you are the creator of Clear Edge which I love.
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Here is the article.....Invalid Link Removed ( I hope it ok to post this here?)

Saw this a few weeks ago, and even at 50% off that is some spendy supps haha.
 
offredjo said:
dsade Has any one else seen this...
(I'm not able to post links but it's on the PricePlow Blog and it's the latest article on an insane "never before done" nootropic called AZOTH)
I love Clear Edge but this has me very intrigued. The Noopept dosage is high but as the formulators explain, there is a reason for that. Also, it's only meant to be taken every other day with only 10 doses a month. I assume that's because of the tolerance build up of phenylpiracetam. I would love some feedback. Matt, I would love to know what you think most of all since you are the creator of Clear Edge which I love.
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I'm not a huge fan; the price is simply outlandish. I don't want to re-type what I've already said about it, so here's my old posts:

Regarding the high dose of Noopept and their justification:
That'd only be a relevant issue if all of the studies didn't use oral administration, which many do, for both animals and humans.
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Regarding taking less than 1 serving (1-2 caps) to get a more reasonable dose of Noopept, and the high price:
The problem with taking 1-2 caps to get more a moderate dose of Noopept is that you're now getting even less of the other ingredients, some of which wouldn't be dosed effectively at all if this were the case. Also, what's the point of 350mg NALT? The research suggests that l-tyrosine > NALT, and pretty much all of the positive tyrosine studies use l-tyrosine, and those tend to use 2g or more. Also, due to the phenylpiracetam, it's not something I'd want to take daily. It's a pretty interesting and solid forumula, but it is nowhere near being worth the cost, even at the discounted price, which is still >$4 per serving. There are other options out there that are just as effective and a lot more affordable, so you could just pick up some standalone phenylpiracetam to add as needed. Also, phenylpiracetam isn't nearly that expensive; if you know where to look, you can get the same amount as is in the total of Azoth for <$4, and that's not even buying in true "bulk" quantities. As for the ashwagandha, you can get the amount that's in the 10 servings for under $1, and that's also not even buying in bulk from the manufacturer, but from a third party who also has to make money and package/label the product.

TL;DR: It's a pretty good formula, although not something I'd want to take daily (phenylpiracetam), but the outlandish price is nowhere near justified, and you can find similar, or arguably even better, formulas for much less money. I know it sounds harsh, but I don't want people "wasting" their money. Granted, the product will "work," but when you can get something that works just was well for less than 1/2 the price, you're wasting money.
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Honestly, I wouldn't spend the money, even at BOGO on Azoth. Yeah, something like phenylpiracetam will have nice acute effects, but other things are things that really work best taken daily, so you'd need another nootropic supplement for the other days as well (who only wants cognitive enhancement 10 days out of the month anyway?). At that point, you'd be better off just getting something you can take daily and adding phenylpiracetam as needed, giving you more flexibility and saving you money.
 
Why are we talking about a competitive product in an Evomuse thread? I wouldn't even want to take this much PhenylPiracetam every other day.
 
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