EvoMuse Fat Loss Sponsored Log - Kaprice

BloodManor said:
Headaches are the worst while lifting and always dread those days. But later on in the day you feel better knowing you did something.
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Thanks! I took 4 ibuprofen and the headache was gone before the workout, but was still pretty low energy. And I need to tweak my workout. And figure out the app. I hit failure on most of my lifts, but I don't feel I worked as hard as I normally do.

And yes, I do feel good about at least getting to the gym.
 
Anyone else have trouble with their BRITE bottles leaking when you shake them? This has been a consistent problem with every bottle of Brite I've had.

I might put some plumbers tape around the neck of the bottle.
 
Dinner at Chipotle. The only nutrician I had prior to that was my protein shake.

Macros for the day:

Cal: 2288
F: 80
C: 196
P: 166
 
DAY 53 - Thursday

Morning weight: 240.5

I'm okay with that given dinner was a big Chipotle burrito.

10:50a
Brite / Ammo / Epitome

Today's a running day.
 
11:00a SuperNova

11:30a run

0.26 miles walk warm up
2 mile run/walk -- something like 6 min run / 3 min walk / 5 min run. - Hilly, but not drastically so.
completed in 21:47 (11:15 min/mile)
0.31 warm down walk

I've started doing these with my mid 20yo daughter. She pushes her 6 month old in a jogging stroller and I STILL struggle to keep up with her. She's training for fun run, so the walk vs run ratio is programmed for her in an app she's using. I was only able to keep her schedule and pace because I didn't want to look weak. On my own, I'd have gone slower and walked sooner and ran less, I think.

So, while I don't LIKE it, it's probably much better I'm doing this with her. :)

Post WO weight: 238.2

Remember, this is after a weekend of dirty eating and a big burrito with trimmings for dinner last night (with Defuse/Brite/Ammo/Epitome to help out). So, I feel pretty good about the weight. My low is 236.

It may not be practical, but I'm hoping to hit 235 post workout by Saturday.

2:00p Protein shake - 2c whole milk; 2sc Whey; 4 frozen strawberries.

377 calories.
That's all I've had so far, today.
 
So, it's 5:00p and I'm not actually feeling hunger. But, I'm lethargic, low energy, and not very focused.

Then I realized something that probably should have been obvious. I'm working on 377 calories (just from a protein drink) for the day, including a 2.5 mile run/walk! So, yeah, makes sense I wouldn't be full of boundless energy.

I also realized my appetite seems pretty under control. Not feeling hungry or empty stomached. No stomach growling. No temptations. That's actually a pretty great thing.

It's just my dang energy levels I need to deal with.

ThermoGum and Nicorettes is not doing the job. In fact, I barely feel any boost from the ThermoGum, anymore. BUT, if I take too many, or chew one for too long, I do start to feel unpleasant. I'd guess I'm building up a tolerance on one side and a slight bad reaction on the other?

Anyway, I should probably start taking in some healthy, non-starchy veggies mid to late afternoon to help with the energy.

For today, I just heated up a left over polish dog and ate it by itself -- no bun or condiments. That bumped me up another 570 calories and 23g of protein and I feel reasonably good now. Not an ideal solution on an ongoing basis.
 
Great job Kaprice. I've been pretty busy lately and keeping up with the board and various threads is difficult - I've been reading along but haven't had much time to respond. As you know, I'm a bit long-winded :)

At any rate - that foggy feeling will actually go away as you get used to things. It may be 2-3 days, maybe a week - and then it'll come back a couple times a week for a few more weeks. It isn't pleasant and your idea of eating something like broccoli or kale or spinach, etc. is good. You can also add in a couple ounces of protein (chicken, beef jerky, protein powder in water, etc.) and keep things lean.

It is fun to have someone to exercise with who is pushing you beyond your limits. Keep pushing, that discomfort is what makes you adapt. That's the beauty of having a partner though, you don't want to look weak so you push harder. I know you think you're old, but I know you can still kick butt :)

Great work!
 
Kaprice said:
So, it's 5:00p and I'm not actually feeling hunger. But, I'm lethargic, low energy, and not very focused.

Then I realized something that probably should have been obvious. I'm working on 377 calories (just from a protein drink) for the day, including a 2.5 mile run/walk! So, yeah, makes sense I wouldn't be full of boundless energy.

I also realized my appetite seems pretty under control. Not feeling hungry or empty stomached. No stomach growling. No temptations. That's actually a pretty great thing.

It's just my dang energy levels I need to deal with.

ThermoGum and Nicorettes is not doing the job. In fact, I barely feel any boost from the ThermoGum, anymore. BUT, if I take too many, or chew one for too long, I do start to feel unpleasant. I'd guess I'm building up a tolerance on one side and a slight bad reaction on the other?

Anyway, I should probably start taking in some healthy, non-starchy veggies mid to late afternoon to help with the energy.

For today, I just heated up a left over polish dog and ate it by itself -- no bun or condiments. That bumped me up another 570 calories and 23g of protein and I feel reasonably good now. Not an ideal solution on an ongoing basis.
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Do you take any preworkout? As a college student I take it every morning (super mild, mostly just caffeine) and it's good for feeling better before hitting the gym.

Also you have a whack sleeping cycle. Get a constant schedule and you won't feel so tired. Easier said than done, but I've noticed you don't sleep much
 
Bodybeast said:
Do you take any preworkout? As a college student I take it every morning (super mild, mostly just caffeine) and it's good for feeling better before hitting the gym.
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I take a ThermoGum just before getting in the car to head to the gym and usually spit it out after about 40 minutes because of the taste and how I start feeling. I think it PROBABLY helps.

Sometimes I'll have a pre-WO shake.


Also you have a whack sleeping cycle. Get a constant schedule and you won't feel so tired. Easier said than done, but I've noticed you don't sleep much
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I go to bed way late but I also sleep in, so I feel like I'm getting enough sleep -- I also take naps when needed. But, I DO need to work on getting a more consistent (and pre-midnight) sleep schedule.
 
Kaprice said:
I take a ThermoGum just before getting in the car to head to the gym and usually spit it out after about 40 minutes because of the taste and how I start feeling. I think it PROBABLY helps.

Sometimes I'll have a pre-WO shake.




I go to bed way late but I also sleep in, so I feel like I'm getting enough sleep -- I also take naps when needed. But, I DO need to work on getting a more consistent (and pre-midnight) sleep schedule.
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Thermogum and a protein shake aren't what I mean by pre workout. Like a stim or non stim load of vitamins. Assault, Jack3d, etc.
 
DAY 54 - Friday

Bed: 2:15a
Up: 9:15a

BM
Morning weight: 239.9

Brite / Ammo / Epitome

I'm really frustrated with Brite's bottle leaking.

To avoid the lead while shaking it, I started shaking side by side instead of up and down. So, out of spite, the bottle decided to leak as I pressed the pump! ARGH!

Am I the only one with the bottle leak problem? No one else seems to be talking about it i, but it's happened to me on every bottle of Brite I've had.
 
Bodybeast said:
Thermogum and a protein shake aren't what I mean by pre workout. Like a stim or non stim load of vitamins. Assault, Jack3d, etc.
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No, I've never done anything like that. I've glanced at Jack3d before and got the impression it was more for bulking than cutting.
 
Kaprice said:
Bed: 2:15a
Up: 9:15a

BM
Morning weight: 239.9

Brite / Ammo / Epitome

I'm really frustrated with Brite's bottle leaking.

To avoid the lead while shaking it, I started shaking side by side instead of up and down. So, out of spite, the bottle decided to leak as I pressed the pump! ARGH!

Am I the only one with the bottle leak problem? No one else seems to be talking about it i, but it's happened to me on every bottle of Brite I've had.
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My first bottle leaked as it got towards the end. My 2 bottle hasn't yet. It's pretty common occurrence from what I've seen.
 
In an effort to get more protein and calories on my lifting days, I had 4 bacon and 3 scrambled eggs late morning.

I tried a new workout and a new logging app.

The app is JEFIT. It came highly recommended. I hate it. I'll check out a couple of others, but I might just use a spreadsheet on my phone.

The new workout is by Mark McManus - THT.

Due to my schedule, I workout on M W F on one week then T Th the following week. Repeat.

So, I took THT's 5 day workout and split it up into my 5 days over two weeks.

Mon: Shoulders & Traps
Wed: Legs
Fri: Arms
Tue: Back
Thu: Chest & Abs

On the off days, I'll run more often than not.

So, today was arms.

Mark recommends crazy long rest periods (2 mins between sets; 3 mins between exercises) I tried it. Too long for me. Sure, it would probably help me pump more volume but it makes the workout take way too long. I'm going to modify it to 30 to 60 seconds between sets and 60 to 90 seconds between exercises and see how that goes.

Other than that, I liked the workout. My arms feel like wet noodles right now. Hard to even type.

Cable Tricep Pushdown
162.5 x 8
162.5 x 8
162.5 x 8

Cable Kneelilng Tricep Ext
57.5 x 8
57.5 x 8
47.5 x 8

Barbell Lying Revers Ext
40 x 12
40 x 12
40 x 12

Cable Preacher Curl
42.5 x 10
42.5 x 10
42.5 x 8

Dumbell Incline Curl
30 x 8
25 x 8
25 x 6

Dumbbell Concentration Curl
25 x 7
25 x 7 (last two required assistance from the other hand)
20 x 8

Wrist curl palm down
20 x 12

Wrist curl palm up
25 x 10

Wrist curl palm down
20 x 12

Wrist curl palm up
25 x 10

Post WO weight: 237.5
2.5 to reach my next milestone.
My previous record low was 236.


Post WO Shake 1.5c milk, 2sc Whey w/ Luecine, Creatine, 4 strawberries, 1/2 banana, tbsp cacao nibs

Calories prior to dinner: 1,133

I'm going to try to go easy on the food tonight, though, to see if I can reach 235 tomorrow.
 
Kaprice said:
Bed: 2:15a
Up: 9:15a

BM
Morning weight: 239.9

Brite / Ammo / Epitome

I'm really frustrated with Brite's bottle leaking.

To avoid the lead while shaking it, I started shaking side by side instead of up and down. So, out of spite, the bottle decided to leak as I pressed the pump! ARGH!

Am I the only one with the bottle leak problem? No one else seems to be talking about it i, but it's happened to me on every bottle of Brite I've had.
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I've been through easily 20 bottles of BRITE (fringe benefit to inventing it) and I've only had one leaker, but I'm with you that it's frustrating.

Softgels coming soon.
 
Kaprice said:
Bed: 2:15a
Up: 9:15a

BM
Morning weight: 239.9

Brite / Ammo / Epitome

I'm really frustrated with Brite's bottle leaking.

To avoid the lead while shaking it, I started shaking side by side instead of up and down. So, out of spite, the bottle decided to leak as I pressed the pump! ARGH!

Am I the only one with the bottle leak problem? No one else seems to be talking about it i, but it's happened to me on every bottle of Brite I've had.
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None of my bottles have leaked and I've gone through almost a dozen bottles...but sometimes it does drip out of the nozzle after the fact...which may give the impression of leaking.
 
HIT4ME said:
None of my bottles have leaked and I've gone through almost a dozen bottles...but sometimes it does drip out of the nozzle after the fact...which may give the impression of leaking.
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Just shake it a few times before you zip back up.
 
dsade said:
Just shake it a few times before you zip back up.
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LOL!

BTW, the leaks from my bottle are coming out of two places: the neck (via the threads); and the gap between the rotating pump and the cap.
 
Kaprice said:
LOL!

BTW, the leaks from my bottle are coming out of two places: the neck (via the threads); and the gap between the rotating pump and the cap.
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Hmm...never seen a neck thread leak. Mine came out of the pump top.
 
dsade said:
Just shake it a few times before you zip back up.
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Lol, what a team we make. Haha.

KAPrice...are you shaking it like the SN? I don't think the Brite needs you to envision young girls naked when you shake it. I shake lightly just to stir it. The SN is a different story. Haha
 
Yeah, the brite is a pretty low viscosity suspension. A quick easy couple of swirls/shakes should do it.
 
Lol HIT4ME and dsade might remember, a few months back I spilt half bottle of Brite on myself at work.

I had mandatory meeting and couldn't run home. Smelt like fishy seaweed. Man that sucked.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Lol HIT4ME and dsade might remember, a few months back I spilt half bottle of Brite on myself at work.

I had mandatory meeting and couldn't run home. Smelt like fishy seaweed. Man that sucked.
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How do I get my whites so BRITE? Ancient Chinese Secret.
 
Matt must be working with that CBD oil. No psychological effects my a$$....
 
mechka_grizli said:
Samsung level u's rock
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I'll look into those when I'm ready to spend bigger money. For now, I ended up buying a set of these on special for just $20.

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Great sound. Comfortable. But, a nearly worthless mic.
 
Kaprice said:
I'll look into those when I'm ready to spend bigger money. For now, I ended up buying a set of these on special for just $20.

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Great sound. Comfortable. But, a nearly worthless mic.
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GOOD. DONT TALK TO ANYONE... FOCUS ON DEM GAINZ!!!!!!!
 
DAY 55 - Saturday

Last night's macros:

Cal: 2,280
F: 100
C: 123
P: 196

If I decide I need to cut my calories more, I can start making my protein shakes with water. The 3.25 cups of milk in my 2 shakes made up almost 400 calories.

Maybe I'll do that on my running days. I'm about where I want to be on my lifting days.

Yesterday's workout must have been effective because I'm experiencing significant DOM this morning.

Morning weight: 239.5

That was disappointing. I was hoping to hit 235, post workout but I don't think that's going to happen. Well, it COULD if I did a workout and a run without eating and drinking very little water. But the loss wouldn't be real, so I'm not going to go through that today.

I'll be taking measurements and pics, later today.
 
Well, I know I didn't eat very clean these last couple of weeks, but I was consistent in the gym and seldom went above maint calories.

So, I was pretty disappointed in today's measurement. The only progress was a 1/4 inch gain in my biceps and that's probably just because I blasted them yesterday. I'm really surprised because I feel like my shirts keep getting looser and looser.

So, with virtually no improvement in measurements, I'm not going to bother with progress pics. Hopefully.

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Tonight I have a big church meeting and after that will be taking my son to In and Out and drown in my sorrows for a night.
 
Kaprice said:
Last night's macros:

Cal: 2,280
F: 100
C: 123
P: 196

If I decide I need to cut my calories more, I can start making my protein shakes with water. The 3.25 cups of milk in my 2 shakes made up almost 400 calories.

Maybe I'll do that on my running days. I'm about where I want to be on my lifting days.

Yesterday's workout must have been effective because I'm experiencing significant DOM this morning.

Morning weight: 239.5

That was disappointing. I was hoping to hit 235, post workout but I don't think that's going to happen. Well, it COULD if I did a workout and a run without eating and drinking very little water. But the loss wouldn't be real, so I'm not going to go through that today.

I'll be taking measurements and pics, later today.
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Kaprice said:
Well, I know I didn't eat very clean these last couple of weeks, but I was consistent in the gym and seldom went above maint calories.

So, I was pretty disappointed in today's measurement. The only progress was a 1/4 inch gain in my biceps and that's probably just because I blasted them yesterday. I'm really surprised because I feel like my shirts keep getting looser and looser.

So, with virtually no improvement in measurements, I'm not going to bother with progress pics. Hopefully.

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Tonight I have a big church meeting and after that will be taking my son to In and Out and drown in my sorrows for a night.
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Just some thoughts...Fairlife milk is a good way to get your milk and a higher protein to calorie ratio.

Second, I think you are doing great. This is a sloooow process. Look at me. By all accounts, especially yours, I am going to extremes. I've maybe lost 10 pounds in the last month, tops. More like 6. It's hard and slow. Lyle MacDonald talks about how you plan a diet, calculate the calories, do all the math, and weight loss usually happens half as fast as the math suggests. It's brutal. But it's all mental. Keep doing what you do. You didn't get to where you were in a few months. You aren't going to become above average physically in a few months either.

Third, enjoy the In and Out Burger with your son. Then back at it!
 
Also, been meaning to ask - have you tried tucking your elbows a little on the bench press? Has it helped with the shoulder issues? Maybe I missed it if you said anything. Hope it helped.
 
HIT4ME said:
Also, been meaning to ask - have you tried tucking your elbows a little on the bench press? Has it helped with the shoulder issues? Maybe I missed it if you said anything. Hope it helped.
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Yes and I haven't had shoulder pain since. Cool beans!

I've also been doing shoulder stretches before every workout that affects them. And I've done two workouts that focused almost exclusively on shoulder rehab exercises. I intend to do more of those over the next few weeks, too.
 
HIT4ME said:
Second, I think you are doing great. This is a sloooow process.
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I totally get the weight loss being a slow process. But, I really expected to see some nice improvements in my body measurements. That's what really bummed me out.
 
Day 58 - Tuesday

Other than a pre WO shake, today's workout was fasted (1:30p)

It's going to be interesting to see how my new split workouts perform for me. Each body part is going to get hit extra hard, but I only hit it once every two weeks, giving plenty (maybe too much) time for recovery. But, if Friday's Arm workout is any indication, I'm going to need a lot of that recovery. I was still feeling decent DOMS as of yesterday. Just a small discomfort today. We'll see if my back (and I guess hamstring from the deadlift) ends up experiencing DOMS.

BACK:

I haven't done deadlifts for a long time and I'm still worried about an old ham injury, so I did not lift to failure this time. I was just feeling it out. But, the final set was still pretty challenging.

It all the other sets, I went to failure or near failure and often had to break proper form to get the last rep or two in.

Barbell Deadlift
1. 145lbs 8x
2. 145lbs 8x
3. 165lbs 6x

Pulley Machine Row (seated)
-- My target is from 8 to 12 reps. When I can do 12, I'm supposed to go to the next higher weight.
Not sure what I'll do, here, since 97.5 is the cable machine's highest setting. There may be a heavier seated cable row upstairs. I'll check.
1. 97.5lbs 12x
2. 97.5lbs 12x
3. 97.5lbs 12x

One Arm Bench Bent Over Row
-- Looks like I move to 50 next time, but 45x12 was really rough.
1. 45lbs 12x
2. 45lbs 12x

12 mins on incline treadmill - Level 7, Speed 3.2

I had a post WO shake, including Luecine and Creatine.

Post WO weight: 240.1

It's been a couple of hours or more and I'm still wiped out.

It wasn't very many sets, but those were tough for me. The One Arm Row was killer.
 
Kaprice said:
Other than a pre WO shake, today's workout was fasted (1:30p)

It's going to be interesting to see how my new split workouts perform for me. Each body part is going to get hit extra hard, but I only hit it once every two weeks, giving plenty (maybe too much) time for recovery. But, if Friday's Arm workout is any indication, I'm going to need a lot of that recovery. I was still feeling decent DOMS as of yesterday. Just a small discomfort today. We'll see if my back (and I guess hamstring from the deadlift) ends up experiencing DOMS.

BACK:

I haven't done deadlifts for a long time and I'm still worried about an old ham injury, so I did not lift to failure this time. I was just feeling it out. But, the final set was still pretty challenging.

It all the other sets, I went to failure or near failure and often had to break proper form to get the last rep or two in.

Barbell Deadlift
1. 145lbs 8x
2. 145lbs 8x
3. 165lbs 6x

Pulley Machine Row (seated)
-- My target is from 8 to 12 reps. When I can do 12, I'm supposed to go to the next higher weight.
Not sure what I'll do, here, since 97.5 is the cable machine's highest setting. There may be a heavier seated cable row upstairs. I'll check.
1. 97.5lbs 12x
2. 97.5lbs 12x
3. 97.5lbs 12x

One Arm Bench Bent Over Row
-- Looks like I move to 50 next time, but 45x12 was really rough.
1. 45lbs 12x
2. 45lbs 12x

12 mins on incline treadmill - Level 7, Speed 3.2

I had a post WO shake, including Luecine and Creatine.

Post WO weight: 240.1

It's been a couple of hours or more and I'm still wiped out.

It wasn't very many sets, but those were tough for me. The One Arm Row was killer.
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I like where you are going with this new plan...great work. Good to see you doing some deads!
 
DAY 59 - Wednesday

Morning weight: 240.7

Definitely feeling DOMS from yesterday's workout in hams and upper back.

Separately, I'm not feeling all that well, this morning. Mild headache. Tired.

Today's a run, if I feel up to it.
 
Hope you feel better Kaprice .

You're doing great in here.
 
Other than 32oz green drink, my run was fasted.

Hamstring pretty sore and stiff from yesterday's deadlifts (which I haven't done in years).
My run path around the park is mildly hilly -- 14 feet in elevation changes.

Warm up walk: .3 miles
Run/Walk 2.28 miles in 26:11 (11:30 min/mile)
I went the first 7 mins at a run. Then finished up alternating between walking/running.
Cool off walk: .25 miles

Post WO weight: 239.3
 
Kaprice said:
Other than 32oz green drink, my run was fasted.

Hamstring pretty sore and stiff from yesterday's deadlifts (which I haven't done in years).
My run path around the park is mildly hilly -- 14 feet in elevation changes.

Warm up walk: .3 miles
Run/Walk 2.28 miles in 26:11 (11:30 min/mile)
I went the first 7 mins at a run. Then finished up alternating between walking/running.
Cool off walk: .25 miles

Post WO weight: 239.3
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Going strong! Under 240lbs again.
 
hairygrandpa said:
Going strong! Under 240lbs again.
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I just looked back. Most of my post WO weights for the past couple weeks have been close to 239. But my record low is 236 and I haven't hit that again over the 3 weeks since. Not likely to hit it this week, either. (sigh)
 
I just posted a question on the Training forum about deadlift vs straight leg deadlift.

If you're knowledgeable about this, please drop by and post an answer. Thanks!

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DAY 60 - Thursday

SuperNova on before bed. Brite / Ammo.

I'm down to just one more Ammo and maybe 1/5 bottle of my current Epitome. Then I've got one more full bottle of Epitome and two full bottles of Brite. I still have at least half of my SuperNova. And half or more bottle of Defuse. So, I've still got a decent EvoMuse stack for the next month. And enough Brite to go for another month or two after that.

Morning weight: 240.5

Today is Chest and abs. (at 1p)

Hamstrings still quite sore from the back workout and yesterday's run. (I inadvertently did straight leg deadlifts for my back where I should have done normal deadlifts, so I think that's why my hams are extra sore.

11:00a Brite / Epitome

I'll apply SN at 12 in prep for my 1p workout.
 
Kaprice said:
Morning weight: 240.7

Definitely feeling DOMS from yesterday's workout in hams and upper back.

Separately, I'm not feeling all that well, this morning. Mild headache. Tired.

Today's a run, if I feel up to it.
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How I feel right now and most days lol
 
I'm going to stop giving advise on diets, I'm cheating too much on mine nowadays, LOL.
Keep doing what you do Kaprice, it still looks good!
 
I'm not sure what to make of today's workout. This was the first Chest/Abs routine I've done following Mark McManus' THT program.

I went to failure in every chest set and nearly so on the abs. But, I didn't walk away zonked like I normally do. Not sure why. One difference was each exercise was just 2 sets -- I assume for a more well rounded chest routine. Also, I might have been better going with a lower bench and higher reps. The target on this plan is 8 to 12 and I didn't hit 8 on either set.

I'm also a bit worried my form might be off. I'm feeling it in my arms right now and not much in the chest.

Post WO weight: 237.9

Fasted workout:

Barbell Flat Bench Press
1. 175lbs 4x
2. 165lbs 8x

Bar Dips, Bent Over
-- I needed to rest my feet on an exercise ball in order to do these.
-- The technique is to lean way forward so it's chest and not triceps. But, this totally felt like triceps to me. Not sure what I did wrong.
1. BW 6x
2. BW 5x

Dumbbell Flat Bench Flys
1. 25lbs 12x
2. 30lbs 10x

Decline Dumbell Press (See Below for a picture and a question)
-- the stated weight is in each hand, not combined.
1. 40lbs 12x
2. 45lbs 8x

Barbell Bench Press (incline)
1. 95lbs 9x
2. 95lbs 6x

Leg Raise (hanging)
-- I don't have the hand strength to hang from a pull up bar. And my gym didn't have the hanging arm harness
-- so I subbed for the leg raises where your back is leaning on a pad and you're resting your elbows on pads.
-- not sure what that's called.
1. 0lbs 12x
2. 10lbs 12x

Weighted Reverse Crunches - badly named, IMO. It's leg raises on a bench.
-- but this hurt my lower back, so I'm going to replace it with something else
1. 0lbs 12x
2. 10lbs 8x

Kneeling Cable Crunch
-- I might be doing bad form or not enough weight. This didn't kill my abs as it should have.
1. 50lbs 12x
2. 72.5lbs 12x

Had a post WO shake Whey in water, greek yogurt, peanut butter, 1/2 banana 4 frozen strawberries, Luecine, Creatine.

*** So, how the heck do you do decline dumbbell presses???

Here's the bench:

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Legs thread through the pads at the top.

With 40 lb dumbells, I managed to just barely get my legs through the pads -- looking like a total spaz in the process. I decided to ask someone to just hand me the weights once I was in position when I went to 45s on the second set.

How do people do this with heavy dumbbells?
 
Kaprice said:
How do people do this with heavy dumbbells?
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I don't do them.
I use dips instead (when shoulder allows it). You can move the bench into the cables and do decline flies too.

In a vid I saw a pro talking about: "Getting DB's in position", mainly for seated DB press. His advise: "Don't do em if you can't get em in position by yourself."
 
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