EvoMuse DCP Writeup

Man, I must be lucky. I'm on day four of 6 caps (2 caps, 3 times daily) with no issues. I only eat from 8-10 p.m. so every dose is taken on an empty stomach (I take my last dose around 6:30-7 p.m.). No issues whatsoever
 
HIT4ME said:
Yeah, I am still not out if the woods with the pain, but it is way better. I am eating very little and the morning dose, empty stomach, is the worst for me. Afternoom dose after I eat, even though that is usually just a shake it 1 oz. Of beef jerky, I have no pain, and my evening dose with dinner has no pain. I have found that if I don't drink enough water WITH the first dose, it is worse. Going back after the first dose and drinking water helps, but not as much as taking in a lot of water with the pills
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So you take your afternoon and evening dose with food or did I misunderstand?
 
GreenMachineX said:
So you take your afternoon and evening dose with food or did I misunderstand?
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With or around food at the very least. I pretty much go until I feel I really need to eat something and then I'll have 100-200 calories of food, which is an incredibly small amount but even that has an impact and makes the DCP capsaicin almost unnoticeable to me. Then I dose the last dose shortly before my last meal, which is usually a bit bigger, maybe around 300 calories. I've been eating around 800 calories a day, so I'm not taking in much food at all, but even a small amount helps.
 
HIT4ME said:
With or around food at the very least. I pretty much go until I feel I really need to eat something and then I'll have 100-200 calories of food, which is an incredibly small amount but even that has an impact and makes the DCP capsaicin almost unnoticeable to me. Then I dose the last dose shortly before my last meal, which is usually a bit bigger, maybe around 300 calories. I've been eating around 800 calories a day, so I'm not taking in much food at all, but even a small amount helps.
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PSMF? 800 calories is so low even so!
 
Wimsicle said:
PSMF? 800 calories is so low even so!
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It's brutal, but works for me it seems. Others will debate :)

I take about 1 g/pound of lean bodyweight of protein per day. My LBM is around 140, I'm just 5'8'' and not a big guy....aiming for 160# at which point I think I'll be around 10% bodyfat. Maybe 12%.
 
I've yet to have any issues at all from DCP and indigestion/stomach irritability/etc. Today is Day 6 for me (2 caps 3x/day always on an empty stomach).
 
MidwestBeast said:
I've yet to have any issues at all from DCP and indigestion/stomach irritability/etc. Today is Day 6 for me (2 caps 3x/day always on an empty stomach).
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Don't laugh too hard. A lot of people start off fine and then get hit.

I wonder if DSade had a batch made up with extra capsaicin and has been sending those bottles to people he doesn't like?

On the other hand, I really don't care. I've been on it for over a week and my fat loss has been great. I have a lot of other factors that could be helping, but I am pretty confident this has actually sped up fat loss pretty dramatically. I guess all the extra time on the toilet was needed to lose weight that quickly.
 
My stomach discomfort comes and goes. Usually it's just a bit of gas. Only had a burning sensation once in three weeks at 6-8 caps per day.

But I routinely eat very very spicy foods. Ghost and scorpion peppers all day
 
HIT4ME said:
Don't laugh too hard. A lot of people start off fine and then get hit.

I wonder if DSade had a batch made up with extra capsaicin and has been sending those bottles to people he doesn't like?

On the other hand, I really don't care. I've been on it for over a week and my fat loss has been great. I have a lot of other factors that could be helping, but I am pretty confident this has actually sped up fat loss pretty dramatically. I guess all the extra time on the toilet was needed to lose weight that quickly.
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No laughter on my end at all -- trust me, when I wanted to use Shift, it was evident that wasn't going to last lol.

And I remember others mentioned it came on later, so I'm keeping an eye on things, but am leaning toward it won't happen since I'm on Day 6 now (and take all my doses on an empty stomach).
 
After a few days the DCP is a breeze. I even take the caps before bed. No more issues.
 
Sweating and body temp increases (other than this week's returned fever) seem to have stabilized.

No stomach issues here on an empty stomach, though the food/gallbladder is still sucking. Pretty good trick considering they took it out.

Back to the gym next week and diet back on point. I haven't been eating much at all, even going 1 1/2 days with no food at all.

Time to get this train back on the tracks.
 
Yep, my burn is going away as well. never got the sweats. Taking before bed I wake up feeling great though!
 
DSADE, How about a LIPIDFX comeback? LIPIDFX was my favorite dieting supplement. Really helped out by suppressing the appetite to a great degree.
 
dumplin716 said:
DSADE, How about a LIPIDFX comeback? LIPIDFX was my favorite dieting supplement. Really helped out by suppressing the appetite to a great degree.
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What was this lipidfx that you speak of? A dsade product called lipidfx....intrigued.
 
scivation had a product called lipidfx which had tta more than likely a mixup with the original DCP or im not old school to know about this product.
 
Asked this already but this thread goes quick. I have a few bottles of OL cardarine/gw1516 sitting around so my question is how would gw1516 stack with dcp?
 
dumplin716 said:
DSADE, How about a LIPIDFX comeback? LIPIDFX was my favorite dieting supplement. Really helped out by suppressing the appetite to a great degree.
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While i did so some of the research that it was based on, they released the final product after I left Scivation.

It's main ingredient, OLeoylethanolamide, works great as an appetite suppressant...but less effective as a PPAR agonist.
 
rtmilburn said:
Asked this already but this thread goes quick. I have a few bottles of OL cardarine/gw1516 sitting around so my question is how would gw1516 stack with dcp?
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I don't know enough to intelligently answer you here, sorry.
 
dsade said:
While i did so some of the research that it was based on, they released the final product after I left Scivation.

It's main ingredient, OLeoylethanolamide, works great as an appetite suppressant...but less effective as a PPAR agonist.
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Any plans doing something with OLeoylethanolamide in it? Any product have it in it now?
 
dumplin716 said:
Any plans doing something with OLeoylethanolamide in it? Any product have it in it now?
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Yes and no....I have a design working with OEA and a few more ingredients, but one ingredient that used to be common is proving very hard to find anymore.
 
dsade said:
While i did so some of the research that it was based on, they released the final product after I left Scivation.

It's main ingredient, OLeoylethanolamide, works great as an appetite suppressant...but less effective as a PPAR agonist.
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OEA is a great ingredient that I've wanted to experiment with just for that reason! Non-stim appetite suppression. Is a rarity.
 
HIT4ME said:
OEA is a great ingredient that I've wanted to experiment with just for that reason! Non-stim appetite suppression. Is a rarity.
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With other positive effects as well...

Biochem Pharmacol. 2015 Apr 15;94(4):270-81. doi: 10.1016/j.bcp.2015.02.012. Epub 2015 Mar 3.
Chronic oleoylethanolamide treatment improves spatial cognitive deficits through enhancing hippocampal neurogenesis after transient focal cerebral ischemia.
Yang LC1, Guo H1, Zhou H1, Suo DQ1, Li WJ1, Zhou Y1, Zhao Y1, Yang WS2, Jin X3.
Author information
Abstract

Oleoylethanolamide (OEA) has been shown to have neuroprotective effects after acute cerebral ischemic injury. The aim of this study was to investigate the effects of chronic OEA treatment on ischemia-induced spatial cognitive impairments, electrophysiology behavior and hippocampal neurogenesis. Daily treatments of 30 mg/kg OEA significantly ameliorated spatial cognitive deficits and attenuated the inhibition of long-term potentiation (LTP) in the middle cerebral artery occlusion (MCAO) rat model. Moreover, OEA administration improved cognitive function in a manner associated with enhanced neurogenesis in the hippocampus. Further study demonstrated that treatment with OEA markedly increased the expressions of brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) and peroxisome proliferator-activated receptors α (PPARα). Our data suggest that chronic OEA treatment can exert functional recovery of cognitive impairments and neuroprotective effects against cerebral ischemic insult in rats via triggering of neurogenesis in the hippocampus, which supports the therapeutic use of OEA for cerebral ischemia.

Copyright © 2015 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
 
Guys I strongly reiterate taking at least 12oz of fluid with your DCP dose. Took a small sip of water just enough to wash the pills down, and got distracted with my son. 20mins later I was d@mn near on the floor in pain. Stomach was in some of the most uncomfortable pain. Do not recommend
 
aver4581 said:
dsade

Hey Matt
Do you know which products from the evomuse line No Chit Supps will be carrying for us aussies?
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I think I kind of dropped the ball here. I missed our order meeting when my fever kicked back in.

Let me hit him up and get an order together.
 
2 week before and after photos.

200mg C (pre cardio)
2 caps Pes shift( pre cardio)
1 cap ALPHABURN (pre cardio)
6 caps DCP a day (2 pre cardio)
2 caps EPITOME a day
 

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mechka_grizli said:
2 week before and after photos.

200mg C (pre cardio)
2 caps Pes shift( pre cardio)
1 cap ALPHABURN (pre cardio)
6 caps DCP a day (2 pre cardio)
2 caps EPITOME a day
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I see upper abs coming in nicely.
 
mechka_grizli said:
Im a fat @$$ as you can tell lol. Decided to finally get rid of this extra "energy" I have stored. DCP and Alphaburn are making it a reality
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I can see pretty dramatic results for only 2 weeks. Keep me updated.
 
I've been taking Brite and Epitome for a month or so. I tend to feel hot all the time anyway, so I can't tell if those increased my temperature.

But, I also keep the A/C on AND a fan blowing on me while I work. I have a hard time concentrating if I get too warm.

I'm just now starting on DCP, which is also supposed to increase body temperature.

So, I began to wonder if I'm counteracting the effects of these products by cooling myself off with the A/C and fan. Do I have to be miserably hot all day, every day to get the fat burning benefits of these? Or, do they work even when I cool myself off?
 
On the shopify website it says BMP is one of his top two formulas. Whats the other one? Assuming its DCP or myo elite?
 
Kaprice said:
I've been taking Brite and Epitome for a month or so. I tend to feel hot all the time anyway, so I can't tell if those increased my temperature.

But, I also keep the A/C on AND a fan blowing on me while I work. I have a hard time concentrating if I get too warm.

I'm just now starting on DCP, which is also supposed to increase body temperature.

So, I began to wonder if I'm counteracting the effects of these products by cooling myself off with the A/C and fan. Do I have to be miserably hot all day, every day to get the fat burning benefits of these? Or, do they work even when I cool myself off?
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The body heat rise is a side effect...it doesn't cause the fat loss. The theory is that if your body heat goes up, then that extra heat is extra energy. It had to come from somewhere, so this suggests a higher metabolism, which usually makes fat loss easier.

The process isn't hindered by cooling...actually, very cold environments/ice will increase energy expenditure.
 
Is the new DCP of use in similar fashion to the original for damage control during cheat meals? I have defuse, but tend to avoid it later in the day, as it has negative effects on my sleep. Hopefully DCP would be better suited for me in the late day cheat scenario..
 
mechka_grizli said:
2 week before and after photos.

200mg C (pre cardio)
2 caps Pes shift( pre cardio)
1 cap ALPHABURN (pre cardio)
6 caps DCP a day (2 pre cardio)
2 caps EPITOME a day
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Great work! How much weight did you lose in those two weeks? It looks pretty dramatic for 2 weeks, I am impressed!
 
max silver said:
Is the new DCP of use in similar fashion to the original for damage control during cheat meals? I have defuse, but tend to avoid it later in the day, as it has negative effects on my sleep. Hopefully DCP would be better suited for me in the late day cheat scenario..
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Yes. DCP has the same ingredients as before, but Vanillean has been added onto it.
 
Kaprice said:
I've been taking Brite and Epitome for a month or so. I tend to feel hot all the time anyway, so I can't tell if those increased my temperature.

But, I also keep the A/C on AND a fan blowing on me while I work. I have a hard time concentrating if I get too warm.

I'm just now starting on DCP, which is also supposed to increase body temperature.

So, I began to wonder if I'm counteracting the effects of these products by cooling myself off with the A/C and fan. Do I have to be miserably hot all day, every day to get the fat burning benefits of these? Or, do they work even when I cool myself off?
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You're good, brother. I have a fan on me all the time, as well. You don't have to suffer to reap the benefits ;)

ma70 said:
Yes. DCP has the same ingredients as before, but Vanillean has been added onto it.
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Correct -- all the goodness of what DCP originally brought to the table, plus the benefits of Vanilliean and the new angle of FTO inhibition.


That said, I love me some Defuse (+ Slintensity + NaRALA).
 
Defuse + slintensity +naRALA + DCP + epitome = my vacation protocol!

"Hun, why do you need a whole suitcase of supplements?"
 
I have read through the write up twice, have been taking dcp three times a day since shipment. I have some questions though and forgive me for not drawing the lines myself but I'm a little confused. What is the purpose and aim of this product? Maybe I'm confused by the inclusion of vanillean, i understand the stim free aspect, I understand the overall fat loss part... but is there a dosing protocol to utilize dcp? Ie taken pre workout, pre largest meals etc. I think I am also being thrown off by the name: damage control protocol... like is this best used in a calorie surplus?

As of now I havnt really figured out a concrete dosing, but usually will take one dose pre workout and the rest with meals. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I have read through the write up twice, have been taking dcp three times a day since shipment. I have some questions though and forgive me for not drawing the lines myself but I'm a little confused. What is the purpose and aim of this product? Maybe I'm confused by the inclusion of vanillean, i understand the stim free aspect, I understand the overall fat loss part... but is there a dosing protocol to utilize dcp? Ie taken pre workout, pre largest meals etc. I think I am also being thrown off by the name: damage control protocol... like is this best used in a calorie surplus?

As of now I havnt really figured out a concrete dosing, but usually will take one dose pre workout and the rest with meals. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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dsade can definitely shed more light on this than I can, and members who have used previous versions can weigh in, too.

But I have always just taken on an empty stomach, 3x/day to aid in fat loss/fat gain. I don't use it just pre surplus meals or things like that. My general dosing is upon rising, once mid-day, and then pre-bed (similar to my BRITE schedule).
 
EMPIREMIND said:
I have read through the write up twice, have been taking dcp three times a day since shipment. I have some questions though and forgive me for not drawing the lines myself but I'm a little confused. What is the purpose and aim of this product? Maybe I'm confused by the inclusion of vanillean, i understand the stim free aspect, I understand the overall fat loss part... but is there a dosing protocol to utilize dcp? Ie taken pre workout, pre largest meals etc. I think I am also being thrown off by the name: damage control protocol... like is this best used in a calorie surplus?

As of now I havnt really figured out a concrete dosing, but usually will take one dose pre workout and the rest with meals. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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The name confused me at first, but honestly, you can use this in any scenario. Yeah, I know that sounds dumb, but in using it in a cut, I was able to cut fat while maintaining a higher cal intake (200 deficit instead of 500). I had better satiety, performance, and seemingly same rate of fat/weight loss while on the said larger deficit. On a bulk, I just gained less fat on a cal surplus. It is versatile...don't let the name confuse you.
 
aver4581 said:
On the shopify website it says BMP is one of his top two formulas. Whats the other one? Assuming its DCP or myo elite?
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Myoelite is hands down m favorite natty recomper.

My natty recomp after i do my 1 yearly cycle is-
BMP
MyoE
Letrone
Testruction
Laxogenin
Epicat

Decently cheap to run all for 8 weeks and the results are amazing
thinking about adding invictus this time to that stack
 
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