Epistane or Beastdrol

wicked_sol

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I've been thinking about starting a cycle of Epistane or Beastdrol. I don't have a lot of experience in these products but I have used LG's trifecta stack 3 complete cycles with decent results. For what its worth I started out with Animal Test and stak for 2 cycles. I was looking into Beastdrol because of the reviews and the fact that they say whats I need for pct and support. Plus they sell everything in one starter kit so its easy and I know whats needed.
On the other hand from what I've been reading epistane is better for a beginner like me and is easier on the body so I'm leaning towards epistane. But what all is recommended these days for proper support and pct? I've read a SERM is recomended to have on standby with either one. Is it necessary or just incase? I've read that (preban) novedext can be used. Is this true or have I been mislead? Just wondering because I happen to have an unopened bottle of 60.

I'm assuming most people are going to recommend going with epistane to start with. If so I need help with what if anything to use for support and coming up with a pct.
 
Yea I would have to say to use Epistane. And as far as your Novedex... I'm not sure what the main ingredient is (6oxo? 6 bromo?) but it's not a stand in for a SERM. SERMs will probably never be replaced by something OTC really. If so, they are sure taking a LONG time to do so lol.

You could do something like:
30/30/40/40
Depending how long you plan on running it. For SHORT lower dose Epi cycles you MAY not need a SERM. I would keep it on hand JUST in case something happens. Better safe than sorry. For support you could run Need2guard, or you can go to the MrSupps page and get their PCT stuff. For PCT, I would use DAA, SERM, GDA (Nutrient partitioner; i.e. need2slin, slinsane, anabolic pump), and cortisol control (ReduceXT, lean xtreme). the GDA and cortisol control are GREAT to have, but if you have to skimp somewhere the DAA and SERM should start you back up fine. Just how much you keep/how far you can gain after coming off might be hindered if you don't add in the two. The GDA will help your calories go to your muscles and the cortisol control will help when the suppressed cortisol levels from when you are on Epi, come back and try to eat up all your muscles.
Anymore questions, just ask :D
 
Yeah that was my fault. I reread it again and the page was refering to Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) not the Novedex I have.
 
I'll tell it t you straight.Epi is a lot weaker than beastdrol.Beastdrols compound superdrol is pretty much a anabolic steroid.Not that most PH's aren't, but its powerful dude.

I'm on a cycle of EPI atm and it gets you harder,dryer and leaner.Its fantastic man.Start low and build up.


You always need a SERM on hand man but if you want to go down the OTC route you can.But have a SERM in a good quantity on hand.I have about 4 PCT's worth of Nolvadex on hand for future cycles and a few bottles of reversitol v1 and v2.


For PCT to be safe you'd need a

SERM
Test Booster
Cortisol Blocker
Maybe something for your libido and free serum test level like HCGenerate
Low dose Milk Thistle
 
Can always go the research chemical route if you can't find pharma grade SERMs. But always have a serm on hand.

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Go with Epi, NO novadex xt. Instead opt for real nolvadex or Clomid or Toremiphene. Stack it with Activate Xtreme/Endosurge, DAA, Erase Pro, magnesium oil and HCGenerate for a nice pct.
 
Ok I have most of what I need.

Epistane 30/30/40/40. Should I start with 10 mg and then move up 10mg a day for the first week or just start with 30?

Pct
Finaflex pure test DAA
Need2slin
Cruise control
HCgenerate

Should I throw in Activate Xtreme also?

Thanks for all the help. I'm slowly learning as I go. As far as SERMs go I have zero experience. Never had the need for them. I've been looking around and found a few places but I've never dealt with them. Can someone pm with a place or point me in the right direction? When it comes to this kind of stuff I don't want to take a chance and end up with some Chinese crap or some other garbage.
 
EPI for sure bro....but I'm an EPI lover..lol. I would use EPI for my first, second, and last cycle over SD any day. I never got much from SD but i get excellent results from EPI. Its a bit backasswards from most people though..lol
 
nolvadex NOT nolvadexXT thats not thw same thing.

ether one you pick USE A TEST BASE!!! dont do oral only cycles with no test base.
if you dont know what im talking about then you need to do more research BEFORE using any of it.
having said that i would highly rec the BEASTDROL i love it and would rec it rane with M1D black or Transaderm.
 
RickRock13 said:
EPI for sure bro....but I'm an EPI lover..lol. I would use EPI for my first, second, and last cycle over SD any day. I never got much from SD but i get excellent results from EPI. Its a bit backasswards from most people though..lol
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yep totaly.
i didnt notich much from epi but liked beastdrol.
 
andrew732 said:
Go with Epi, NO novadex xt. Instead opt for real nolvadex or Clomid or Toremiphene. Stack it with Activate Xtreme/Endosurge, DAA, Erase Pro, magnesium oil and HCGenerate for a nice pct.
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This is some good info right here. Also I respond better myself to Epi (Epi-Strong) then to Superdrol (Beastdrol) as well. Also, make sure you add a test base for your prohormon cycle such as Transaderm or Dermacrine at 5 pumps a day. Good luck..SJ

BTW Andrew732, just now seeing that you are sponsored by PES, you are a lucky SOB!!
 
SuppJunkie said:
This is some good info right here. Also I respond better myself to Epi (Epi-Strong) then to Superdrol (Beastdrol) as well. Also, make sure you add a test base for your prohormon cycle such as Transaderm or Dermacrine at 5 pumps a day. Good luck..SJ

BTW Andrew732, just now seeing that you are sponsored by PES, you are a lucky SOB!!
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transaderm is a great idea!!!! and i argee andrew is a lucky sob, lol.
 
Blergs said:
nolvadex NOT nolvadexXT thats not thw same thing.

ether one you pick USE A TEST BASE!!! dont do oral only cycles with no test base.
if you dont know what im talking about then you need to do more research BEFORE using any of it.
having said that i would highly rec the BEASTDROL i love it and would rec it rane with M1D black or Transaderm.
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have to disagree here,its not needed to run a test base on his first cycle.He'll probably gain 10-15lbs. If he can find some test transderms that are legit from a good source he may as well go the full way and start pinning
 
Roniboney said:
have to disagree here,its not needed to run a test base on his first cycle.He'll probably gain 10-15lbs. If he can find some test transderms that are legit from a good source he may as well go the full way and start pinning
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You may be misunderstanding the purpose of the transaderm during a PH cycle. Each and every PH cycle is better with Transaderm. It effectively serves as an OTC test base which keeps the libido up and lethargy at bay while on. That is its primary purpose. Libido and lethargy are two of the main side effects of running orals, which is the reason its a perfect fit..
 
RickRock13 said:
You may be misunderstanding the purpose of the transaderm during a PH cycle. Each and every PH cycle is better with Transaderm. It effectively serves as an OTC test base which keeps the libido up and lethargy at bay while on. That is its primary purpose. Libido and lethargy are two of the main side effects of running orals, which is the reason its a perfect fit..
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oh transaderm.Pardom me I though he was suggesting a transdermal test base,as in the little sachets people rub on their legs.My mistake
 
Roniboney said:
oh transaderm.Pardom me I though he was suggesting a transdermal test base,as in the little sachets people rub on their legs.My mistake
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No problem brother!
 
Roniboney said:
have to disagree here,its not needed to run a test base on his first cycle.He'll probably gain 10-15lbs. If he can find some test transderms that are legit from a good source he may as well go the full way and start pinning
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this make sNO sence and the adive you are giving is going to hurt others.

I am not even going to explain because others will back me up.

there BOTH steroids the epi and the beastdrol.
they BOTH will shut down your natural test producttion and they BOTH should be ran with test. injectiond or ceams but somthign to supplements the shut down. + add to gains.

using beastdrol is like using teste or deca or any other steroid.

so to my question.

why would you say the above and please expand on that.

thankyou.
 
Roniboney said:
oh transaderm.Pardom me I though he was suggesting a transdermal test base,as in the little sachets people rub on their legs.My mistake
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yes that is one of the things i mean. the transaderm is also another great choice.
 
RickRock13 said:
You may be misunderstanding the purpose of the transaderm during a PH cycle. Each and every PH cycle is better with Transaderm. It effectively serves as an OTC test base which keeps the libido up and lethargy at bay while on. That is its primary purpose. Libido and lethargy are two of the main side effects of running orals, which is the reason its a perfect fit..
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exacly and on top if it just NOT beign healthy for you. specially long term on and off use.
your better off using 300mg teste ew year round (IF YOU WHERE ON HRT OR YOUR LEVELS WHERE LOW TO BEGIN WITH. I DONOT REC THIS TO YOUNG GUYS OR GIRLS) than not usign any at all and using orals off and on. weather it be beastdrol or dianabol.

testosterone is used for many bodly functions not just building mucle and libido.
thats why its important to know what your doing to your body.
just because you can walk into a shop and buy it or order it (OTC), DOSENT mean its not a steroid or that its safe.
 
RickRock13 said:
EPI for sure bro....but I'm an EPI lover..lol. I would use EPI for my first, second, and last cycle over SD any day. I never got much from SD but i get excellent results from EPI. Its a bit backasswards from most people though..lol
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I couldn't agree anymore with this statement. I felt like I get better results off of Epi too. It provides leaner gains that are easier to keep and strength gains that are just as good as beast IMO.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
I couldn't agree anymore with this statement. I felt like I get better results off of Epi too. It provides leaner gains that are easier to keep and strength gains that are just as good as beast IMO.
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Yeh bro....EPI is my drug of choice! :sgrin:
 
I'm assuming taking vicodin with these supps isn't recomended? I hardly take them maybe 3 a month but Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks everyone for the help. At least I have a better understanding of what I need but still need to do a little more research before I start.

If anyone knows of a good place to get EPI or the other things I need let me know. It would be great if some one had a discount code ;)
 
wicked_sol said:
I'm assuming taking vicodin with these supps isn't recomended? I hardly take them maybe 3 a month but Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks everyone for the help. At least I have a better understanding of what I need but still need to do a little more research before I start.

If anyone knows of a good place to get EPI or the other things I need let me know. It would be great if some one had a discount code ;)
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If you need painkillers 3 times a month and its not for medical reasons then the fact that you even think running a cycle may be a good idea is laughable
 
Roniboney said:
have to disagree here,its not needed to run a test base on his first cycle.He'll probably gain 10-15lbs. If he can find some test transderms that are legit from a good source he may as well go the full way and start pinning
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Huh? Why wouldn't you run a test base like 4-DHEA? The lethargy and libido loss really suck otherwise.
 
Forgot to ask. Is one maker of epi metter then another? I guessing everyone is using Innovative Body Enhancement Epistane?
?
 
wicked_sol said:
I'm assuming taking vicodin with these supps isn't recomended? I hardly take them maybe 3 a month but Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks everyone for the help. At least I have a better understanding of what I need but still need to do a little more research before I start.

If anyone knows of a good place to get EPI or the other things I need let me know. It would be great if some one had a discount code ;)
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hydrocodone isn't the culprit, it's that poison acetaminophen that is toxic......i once asked trauma1 why they put acetaminaphen in vicoin, his guess was to keep people from abusing it due to liver disease.....stay clear of acetaniophen at all times, imo-but particularly if you are on a oral hormone cycle.
 
wicked_sol said:
Forgot to ask. Is one maker of epi metter then another? I guessing everyone is using Innovative Body Enhancement Epistane?
?
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I have used CEL e-stane and I have a bottle of LGI that I haven't opened yet.
 
thebigt said:
transaderm is a great idea!!!! and i argee andrew is a lucky sob, lol.
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Can someone tell me what transderm is? I though this just meant transdermal test, but after reading this thread I'm obviously wrong.
 
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