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Epistane + Katanadrol 2.0 + OEP

Schyluer

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I'll be doing a log soon on my Epistane and Katanadrol 2.0 stack. I've had more time to get prepped cuz of having to find Epistane from somewhere else as the IBE guys have been out of stock forever. And now I'm getting an outpatient minor surgery on my sinuses that will put me out a week. So I've had lots of time to read. I just did the bodpod I'm 6ft4 at 188 lbs at 20% bf. I used to be 195 at 10% bf. I want to cut down on my bf % while gaining 10 lbs of lean mass in a 6 week cycle. I was thinking of taking OEP along with this stack. Is this safe? Your thoughts and expert opinions plz.
 
OEP is pretty much a preworkout stimwise. You could do that as long as you kept track of your blood pressure and made sure you didnt over do the intensity of your cardio. Just include blood pressure support. Also depends on medication after surgery.
 
you need to get your bf% down to at least 15 before you start the cycle... that's too high for the cycle bro... get it down first and then start it... 188 at 6'4" seems light as far as weight so your body fat is way too high... fix that first and then run it
 
K guys. If I should get my bf down first.. Should I go OEP first than my PH cycle? Mind you I'll be eating perfectly with about a 5000 calorie diet. And you said keep my cardio down... Ummmm I do Crossfit
 
To cut bodyfat you need to cut Cal's and get that cardio in there. 5k Cal's won't allow you to lose bodyfat.
 
The stack is good but as others said, cut bf first than go for cycle. You need to cut cals first to start losing bf. You can take Oep with erase. Cardio def needs to play a role.
 
Thanks guys, I'll talk to my nutritionist. Even if I am eating 100% clean with very low fats I won't be able to burn fat huh? Cuz my nutritionist tends to think I can gain a few lbs AND cut bf on his diet he has me on. I eat 8 times a day. I do fasted cardio with bcaa's in the morning 2-3 times a week, running over an hr. And 3 days a week I do Crossfit, which right now my coach has me doing tons of heavy legs and shoulder stuff. Oh and I just looked at my diet... It's about 4500 calories.
 
Question about Erase. This will help me cut fat? I've never understood what a cortisol blocker is.. Is this a cortisol blocker? And would I take this with OEP, or when I was on cycle, or both?
 
Schyluer said:
Also I'm going back on adderall 40 mg xr. Is OEP safe with adderall?
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If you have adderall there's not even a need for oep

Eating on adderall was damn near impossible for me and I easily ripped up after a few days use because I still had enough energy to lift and run. This was back when I used it to study
 
Thanks for the quick reply. I actually eat more on adderall. I'm like 1 of 3% or whatever. It makes me hyper focused and I eat religiously the diet my trainer puts me on. If I miss a meal I get anxious. All my other friends hate food on adderall. My mind tells me to eat regardless. And I don't hate food at all. It does jack up my heart rate though
 
Hey guys, one last question. As I have decided to follow your advice and cut the fat first before my ph cycle of epi and katana and my nutritionist has me on a 2600-3000 calorie diet and I'm running an hr every day.. Could I take a non-methylated ph like Katanadrol 2.0 to help cut the fat faster than bridge into a cycle of Epistane? Because the Katana wouldn't be methylated would that be safe? Your thoughts..
 
Schyluer said:
Hey guys, one last question. As I have decided to follow your advice and cut the fat first before my ph cycle of epi and katana and my nutritionist has me on a 2600-3000 calorie diet and I'm running an hr every day.. Could I take a non-methylated ph like Katanadrol 2.0 to help cut the fat faster than bridge into a cycle of Epistane? Because the Katana wouldn't be methylated would that be safe? Your thoughts..
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Just because it's not methylated doesn't mean it doesn't come with it's share of side effects. If I were you I'd just wait and run it with epi. They will act in a synergy and will be better stacked together than separately.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
Just because it's not methylated doesn't mean it doesn't come with it's share of side effects. If I were you I'd just wait and run it with epi. They will act in a synergy and will be better stacked together than separately.
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I agree with Dark Half on this one. Don't be too eager too quickly. When messing with these compounds its nothing to take lightly. Drop your bodyfat down to an acceptable level, then really make some body changes with the EPI/Katana stack ;)
 
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