epistane cycle

alr999

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I'm going to start an epistle cycle. I'm going to be getting it from vita labs off strong supp shop
on cycle:
I'm going to run 30/40/40/40/40
cycle armor
fish oil
vitamins

pct:
-AD-3 PCT
-Nolva/Clomid idk what one yet, maybe some help from you guys- my body type is really skinny and i don't really think i need this only because i don't see myself getting gyno- thinking about just getting a normal estrogen blocker
-erase

let me know if i should add anything or change something, thanks
 
mw1 said:
I would go with Cycle Assist over Cycle Armour ~it VERY underdosed ;) Compare the two labels Nolva at 20/20/20/20 with a test booster would be good. If you plan on adding stims in PCT then you may want to add in Reduce XT to control cortisol
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The problem is I already have cycle armor. Should I just get another bottle and add to the daily dosage?? Okay ill definatley get the nolva
 
As mw1 said get the SERM also!
 
Its not just for the gyno.
 
I prefer clomid, but either will do the trick! try one you haven't and than you can compare which you like more
 
GeekPoop said:
I prefer clomid, but either will do the trick! try one you haven't and than you can compare which you like more
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Yea maybe. I really want to not take a SERM I was thinking of just taking an estro blocker and DAA with all the other vitamins and stuff
 
A SERM has a MUCH bigger purpose than just fighting gyno. Its a major player in stimulating natural test production via its effect on the htpa.
 
alr999 said:
Yea maybe. I really want to not take a SERM I was thinking of just taking an estro blocker and DAA with all the other vitamins and stuff
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I think you are looking at things wrong. The real question is not if you really want to take a SERM. It is do you want a functioning HPTA or don't you? You really should not do the cycle or do a proper pct.
 
harbonah said:
I think you are looking at things wrong. The real question is not if you really want to take a SERM. It is do you want a functioning HPTA or don't you? You really should not do the cycle or do a proper pct.
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This^

I don't understand why ppl don't get this. Why put in all the work and stress on your body to just lose it because of a poorly planned pct.

Ok so look at it this way(laymen terms):
1. When you use designer steroids and prohormones your body stops producing testosterone naturally.
2. If you don't quickly get your body producing testosterone after cycle it will be next to impossible to keep and build muscle.
3. Will your testosterone levels eventually recover? They should but it will take way too long and during this time you will lose gains made on cycle while potentially also having issues in the bedroom.
4. So how do we get our hormone levels back to normal as quickly as possible you may ask? --> SERM<--. No test booster/AI on the market will do what a serm can. I don't care if you use all of them it won't happen.

In short: No serm no cycle
 
Just peeped op's stats. 5'10 #160. Think we should skip the cycle all together. What's your diet look like? Time to fix that before you waste your time with steroids.
 
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