Epistane and LMG?

SouthernCharm

SouthernCharm

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I have a buddy who I work out with, pretty much every time I go to the gym. He's fallen into a very similar routine as mine, and is a pretty easy gainer. He picked up a bottle of a supp called "Monster" which contains:

2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol. - 10mg

13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one - 25mg


He asked me if this would be a good cycle, I guess because he knew I was gonna run Superdrol, but I have read mixed reviews of stacking these two together, so I didn't know what to tell him and he doesn't have the internet. He has a serm on hand and everything, but I guess any knowledge on this combo would be appreciated so I can pass it on to him.
 
I can't think of anything wrong with stacking these. About 3 caps a day would be right. For most people it'll be a good stack. Me personally I hate max LMG because I got gyno from it within the first week and stopped before I could make any gains at all. If you don't have major problems with progestin gyno like I do though, there's nothin wrong with it.

Should be a good stack in theory, max LMG is "wet" and epi is "dry" one is progestin, mass builder, the other is more strength/hardening and anti-E, on paper the combo sounds fine.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I can't think of anything wrong with stacking these. About 3 caps a day would be right. For most people it'll be a good stack. Me personally I hate max LMG because I got gyno from it within the first week and stopped before I could make any gains at all. If you don't have major problems with progestin gyno like I do though, there's nothin wrong with it.

Should be a good stack in theory, max LMG is "wet" and epi is "dry" one is progestin, mass builder, the other is more strength/hardening and anti-E, on paper the combo sounds fine.
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Well I might have to ask him if he's prone to gyno problems.. His physique is pretty solid. I can say that I don't have any problems with it, so if the cycle goes good for him I may consider it as well. The bottle he picked up said 4 weeks, would you say that is a reasonable amount of time, or would it yield better results in a longer cycle?
 
I think it could be stretched a little longer if he's feeling fine. The biggest issue here will probably be shutdown as the progestins are pretty bad for that... shutdown and dead libido.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I think it could be stretched a little longer if he's feeling fine. The biggest issue here will probably be shutdown as the progestins are pretty bad for that... shutdown and dead libido.
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This sounds messed up but he just had a bad break up so I don't think that would be an issue. He's got nolva on hand, what would you suggest dosing at?

20/20/10/10 or another?

I think I will actually benefit from seeing him do the cycle because one thing is to read a study, or subscribe to a log, and it's a whole different ballpark when you are seeing the results first hand.

So the shutdown is from the Max LMG? And he's currently trying to bulk, but I don't think he eats enough calories a day. Of course I'm not his nutritionist but Ive seen old dude eat and I think he's on a deficit.
 
SouthernCharm said:
This sounds messed up but he just had a bad break up so I don't think that would be an issue. He's got nolva on hand, what would you suggest dosing at?

20/20/10/10 or another?

I think I will actually benefit from seeing him do the cycle because one thing is to read a study, or subscribe to a log, and it's a whole different ballpark when you are seeing the results first hand.

So the shutdown is from the Max LMG? And he's currently trying to bulk, but I don't think he eats enough calories a day. Of course I'm not his nutritionist but Ive seen old dude eat and I think he's on a deficit.
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Give him a week and he will be back to chasing broads. I would just make sure he doesnt get too messed up and start boozing while chasing broads because that combo is powerful on your liver as it. No need to hurt yourself with alcohol on top of it all.
 
CaponeCEO said:
Give him a week and he will be back to chasing broads. I would just make sure he doesnt get too messed up and start boozing while chasing broads because that combo is powerful on your liver as it. No need to hurt yourself with alcohol on top of it all.
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Actually he doesnt drink. I don't drink either, so its one of the things we have in common. He's older than me, and when we first met he assumed that I probably get smashed on the weekends. LOL but yeah one of the first things I told him is that he shouldn't drink.... Which was redundant to say :lol:
 
I just read another thread that when you take a progestin the PCT should be Clomid and not Nolva because it will increase prolactin levels? Can someone else chime in on this so I am better informed when talking to my friend about his cycle. He hasn't started yet, but was showing me the bottle last night and says he plans to run it next week. He already had the nolva because he threw in on my order.
 
I have heard that but never confirmed it. I think that it's probably exaggerated... lots of people have run PH Tren and PCTd with nolva and I haven't heard any complaints.
 
cool man I'll let him know... I dont really wanna have to order anything else for him.. He needs to get a damn isp!! LOL
 
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