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Epicatechin & Laxogenin First Run!

FlyingHanuman

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Putting together a sweet stack of nattys right now.
I haven't used Epicat or Laxo before, so i thought ideally i'd run them separately one after the other to see the effects - for that i'm looking at ordering Strength Unleashed + Epic Unleashed. Could run Massmax XT rather than Epic - Thats slightly cheaper actually from the UK site i'm using.
Question is...
Would it be better to just run em both at the same time?
Chaos & Pain does a product called Legendary that includes both - it's well priced and coming from a good brand.
I'd normally consider the dosage to assess the value of the product, but OL hasn't stated the actual amount of the active ingredients vs delivery support.
Legendary would be 50mg Laxo, 300mg Epicat + delivery ingredient, per day.
Thoughts, opinions, experiences on any of the 4 products mentioned will be most welcome!!!
 
Get the best out of each product and run them together for sure. I ran them separate before and laxo is the better out of the 2 IMO. But both go good together.
 
I saw one from team six which looks legit
 
Anyone with experience using Chaos and Pain's Legendary?
Feedback on OL's products seems good, and i know the delivery system is hyped up for these kinds of products, so choosing the right brand might be important...

At the price available to me, Legendary looks the better value.
Another Laxogenin only product at great value too - Nutraceutical Innovations MegaLax - but i'd never heard of it before just now.
 
FlyingHanuman said:
Anyone with experience using Chaos and Pain's Legendary?
Feedback on OL's products seems good, and i know the delivery system is hyped up for these kinds of products, so choosing the right brand might be important...

At the price available to me, Legendary looks the better value.
Another Laxogenin only product at great value too - Nutraceutical Innovations MegaLax - but i'd never heard of it before just now.
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I don't have any experience with Legendary but I have used plenty of Laxo and (-)-Epi products over the years. You are right that enhanced delivery systems do seem to make a difference, particularly with Laxo. The biggest problem I have with Legendary is that the Laxo dose is WAY too low IMO.

Nutri Innovations has a great reputation and you could run that at 125 mg/day for a month. It is quite pricey though.

Iron Forged Nutrion would be a good way to go too..

Then there is the new one by Hi-Tech which is well dosed and is quite cheap. Problem is, you get what you pay for from them in my experience.

For a straight up (-)epi product, EP1C Unleashed is great. If you can still find it, you would be good to go with that one!
 
Ricky10 said:
I don't have any experience with Legendary but I have used plenty of Laxo and (-)-Epi products over the years. You are right that enhanced delivery systems do seem to make a difference, particularly with Laxo. The biggest problem I have with Legendary is that the Laxo dose is WAY too low IMO.

Nutri Innovations has a great reputation and you could run that at 125 mg for a month. It is quite pricey though.

Iron Forged Nutrion would be a good way to go too..

Then there is the new one by Hi-Tech which is well dosed and is quite cheap. Problem is, you get what you pay for from them in my experience.

For a straight up (-)epi product, EP1C Unleashed is great. If you can still find it, you would be good to go with that one!
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Laxo dose in Legendary seems comparable to Strength Unleashed in the sense that if you take 2 caps a day you're getting 50mg, which is the same or more than 1 cap of SU (which lists 50mg total ingredients, not just Laxo)... That bottle would last 30 days, while SU would last 60 - but you wouldn't have to buy a bottle of (-)Epi as well...

if Nutri Innovations is recommended then I might go with that - Though I haven't seen loads of feedback and can't judge whether their 'Tetrasorb' delivery system will match OL's.

Probably pair that with Epic Unleashed. Follidrone 2.0 seems widely regarded as the best bet - but unreasonably more expensive in the UK.
 
FlyingHanuman said:
Laxo dose in Legendary seems comparable to Strength Unleashed in the sense that if you take 2 caps a day you're getting 50mg, which is the same or more than 1 cap of SU (which lists 50mg total ingredients, not just Laxo)... That bottle would last 30 days, while SU would last 60 - but you wouldn't have to buy a bottle of (-)Epi as well...

if Nutri Innovations is recommended then I might go with that - Though I haven't seen loads of feedback and can't judge whether their 'Tetrasorb' delivery system will match OL's.

Probably pair that with Epic Unleashed. Follidrone 2.0 seems widely regarded as the best bet - but unreasonably more expensive in the UK.
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Gotcha. Honestly it has to be in the 200mg/day range if you are lucky enough to get anything from Laxo no matter what it has for enhanced delivery.
 
Studdscruggs said:
Get the best out of each product and run them together for sure. I ran them separate before and laxo is the better out of the 2 IMO. But both go good together.
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Agreed. I usually will run Anafuse which has both in it and i'll run it for 8 weeks. I get good results during the last 4 weeks of my run.
 
i loved my experience with straight laxo....I do have some coming to log but I also grabbed a bottle of diverge max to use coming up which combines the two....can't wait to see how it treats me
 
Young Gotti said:
i loved my experience with straight laxo....I do have some coming to log but I also grabbed a bottle of diverge max to use coming up which combines the two....can't wait to see how it treats me
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Been excited to run laxo myself. Going to run it at 200mg/day next month and see how it treats me.
 
Whatever supps you decide to use, I would stagger your Laxo anc Epi product. Run one for the first four weeks and then introduce the other ingredient the second four weeks. This way you can see if only one, or both, or none of the products work for you.

Epi Product - Weeks 1-8
Laxo - Weeks 5-12
 
Check out Brawn from BPS as far as the laxo. 100 mg per capsule. Its a lot cheaper than most other laxos, and itll last 60 days at 100mg or 30 days at 200 mg. You can use "scott15" for a discount at checkout as well
 
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