MrKleen73
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That is a big statement for sure. I am really glad we got that TR3ST out to you!
Absolutely it is pretty awesome to be up on the mountain because we get to toss the others a line to help them climb up too!
Epic + Ostarine Review & Important Info
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That is a big statement for sure. I am really glad we got that TR3ST out to you!
808shredded
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I like this^^
crowbar46
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MrKleen--yeah, I'm glad you got the Trest to me also!
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So, training is still going great guns! Either load, reps, or intensity (via various techniques) is going up each workout. I'm starting to feel like I need a refeed meal; so, this Thur. (my birthday) me and the wife will be going to a lunch buffet at the local University (I.U.). This isn't your run of the mill crappy quality food buffet, this is gourmet: several main dishes and accompaning sides; a complete fruit and salad bar; a hand-made desert bar, coffee, juice, etc all in a spacious room with giant "cathederal" windows and 600 or 700 hundred year old Medieval tapasteries hanging on the walls!
Muscle hardness, fullness, and pumps are extreme at this point. Just bending my arm to eat with a fork of spoon creates an almost uncomfortable pump! My forearms are so pumped up, tight, hard and vascular it's unreal!
I have noticed the first real side effects: combined with caffeine this stack is producing a tendency toward slightly elevated blood pressure, but only slightly, and only for several hours surrounding the comsumption of the caffeine--but it is more pronounced than just the caffeine alone would produce. This, again, has been pretty mild. Secondly, I'm a bit more irritable than usual; no big deal though, I have lots of practice in controlling that since I've been with the same woman for the last 10 years almost!
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So, training is still going great guns! Either load, reps, or intensity (via various techniques) is going up each workout. I'm starting to feel like I need a refeed meal; so, this Thur. (my birthday) me and the wife will be going to a lunch buffet at the local University (I.U.). This isn't your run of the mill crappy quality food buffet, this is gourmet: several main dishes and accompaning sides; a complete fruit and salad bar; a hand-made desert bar, coffee, juice, etc all in a spacious room with giant "cathederal" windows and 600 or 700 hundred year old Medieval tapasteries hanging on the walls!
Muscle hardness, fullness, and pumps are extreme at this point. Just bending my arm to eat with a fork of spoon creates an almost uncomfortable pump! My forearms are so pumped up, tight, hard and vascular it's unreal!
I have noticed the first real side effects: combined with caffeine this stack is producing a tendency toward slightly elevated blood pressure, but only slightly, and only for several hours surrounding the comsumption of the caffeine--but it is more pronounced than just the caffeine alone would produce. This, again, has been pretty mild. Secondly, I'm a bit more irritable than usual; no big deal though, I have lots of practice in controlling that since I've been with the same woman for the last 10 years almost!
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crowbar46
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Will do.
I've noticed another effect that came on (again) rather strong today; namely, I feel a little "amped" and "edgy", and I'm starting to have a little trouble sleeping--nothing extreme but I think I'll take some melatonin and 5 HTP before bed tonight. I also took my blood pressure today (as I always do) and it's running fine-just slightly elevated systolic and great diastolic--but my resting heart rate was running 80-100 bpm; I normally run 50-55 bpm! I don't know if I'm just tired from the hard training and low calories, or what. I do sense a general nervous system activation. It honestly feels a little like Tren, but I don't want to make too much of it at this point We'll seee if this continues.
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crowbar46
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Well, I don't know what the hell that episode with the racing heart rate was all about yesterday, but it's not repeating today so I'll just consider it fatigue and
chalk it up as a "one-off". In fact, I started thinking about this yesterday: I did a 3 month long "super recomp" right before starting this cycle. I waved my calories up and down from just slightly hypo-caloric to just slightly hyper caloric over the course of the 3 months. I ended up almost EXACTLY THE SAME WEIGHT TO THE POUND, but with obviously and visibly reduced body fat, and increased muscle mass.
I've decide that I'm just trying to get by on too low of calories for my size and training style. So, starting yesterday (Tue. Sept. 9th) through Thur. (Sept. 11th)I'm going to increase my calories and eat "free style", attempting to only track protein, letting calories fall where they may. Then, after this refeed period I'll be increasing calories from 2600 Kcal/day, to 2800 Kcal. I think I'll actually drop body fat FASTER on this intake. I'll keep you posted.
Training went very well today. Again, there was no unusual level of nervous system activation/fatigue as there was yesterday. I think the increased calories yesterday had an immediate impact. Visually, hardness, tightness, and vascularity are the defining characteristics of this cycle. Physiologically, increased strength, endurance, recovery, and increased leanness are apparent.
I can see how this would be an incredible contest prep stack for someone with already low body fat!
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Well, I don't know what the hell that episode with the racing heart rate was all about yesterday, but it's not repeating today so I'll just consider it fatigue and
chalk it up as a "one-off". In fact, I started thinking about this yesterday: I did a 3 month long "super recomp" right before starting this cycle. I waved my calories up and down from just slightly hypo-caloric to just slightly hyper caloric over the course of the 3 months. I ended up almost EXACTLY THE SAME WEIGHT TO THE POUND, but with obviously and visibly reduced body fat, and increased muscle mass.
I've decide that I'm just trying to get by on too low of calories for my size and training style. So, starting yesterday (Tue. Sept. 9th) through Thur. (Sept. 11th)I'm going to increase my calories and eat "free style", attempting to only track protein, letting calories fall where they may. Then, after this refeed period I'll be increasing calories from 2600 Kcal/day, to 2800 Kcal. I think I'll actually drop body fat FASTER on this intake. I'll keep you posted.
Training went very well today. Again, there was no unusual level of nervous system activation/fatigue as there was yesterday. I think the increased calories yesterday had an immediate impact. Visually, hardness, tightness, and vascularity are the defining characteristics of this cycle. Physiologically, increased strength, endurance, recovery, and increased leanness are apparent.
I can see how this would be an incredible contest prep stack for someone with already low body fat!
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BigRed1974
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I did the same thing with my diet a few months ago when I ran my cycle of Diabolix and it made all the difference. I concentrated so hard on losing fat for awhile that my metabolism finally slowed down. Went to more of a IIFYM diet with some more carbs and my weight went up but stayed just as lean.
Lots of good feedback in here!
Lots of good feedback in here!
crowbar46
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glad to have you along, BigRed! Yeah, for one thing I just haven't accounted for the increase in LBM from the last few months. Sometimes when you've been concentrating on loosing body fat for an extended period, you just need to step back and focus on another goal for a short time and see if "form follows function". If you train in a manner that requires the body to be (or become) lean and muscular, then that's what it'll do!
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crowbar46
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Fuc* dieting! Of course as soon as I increased calories and quit obsessing about weight I starting leaning out again AND my performance has increased even more! I've done this for so many years that you'd think I would have given up on "dieting" long ago, but old habits (and ideas) die hard. So, I've taken my own advise and I'm shifting my focus to increasing my training density through reduced rest periods, super setting, antagonistic super sets, etc.
As far as diet, I'll be tracking protein intake, eating reasonable amounts of fat (including plenty of healthy fats such as olive, coconut, nut butters, and nuts, etc.), and eating moderate to moderately high amounts of quality carbs. The only real change is I'll no longer be obsessively tracking every calorie I put in my mouth. I always do better in terms of leaning out while increasing strength and muscle mass when I eat a little more freely within a context of clean food. At any rate, my body and performance have responded immediately.
As far as the cycle; intense heat rushes, vascularity, muscle fullness and hardness, and unbelievable pumps continue 24/7. Increases in LBM are apparent at this time as is increased leanness. Recovery is also improved. Mood is great, as is energy level for the most part; however, when I was really cutting calories I was strong and recovered quickly, but i often felt pretty wiped out. Increasing calories has greatly helped with this, however I think some fatigue is often inevitable when using hormonal anabolics--if for no other reason, building muscle tissue is very "metabolically expensive".
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Fuc* dieting! Of course as soon as I increased calories and quit obsessing about weight I starting leaning out again AND my performance has increased even more! I've done this for so many years that you'd think I would have given up on "dieting" long ago, but old habits (and ideas) die hard. So, I've taken my own advise and I'm shifting my focus to increasing my training density through reduced rest periods, super setting, antagonistic super sets, etc.
As far as diet, I'll be tracking protein intake, eating reasonable amounts of fat (including plenty of healthy fats such as olive, coconut, nut butters, and nuts, etc.), and eating moderate to moderately high amounts of quality carbs. The only real change is I'll no longer be obsessively tracking every calorie I put in my mouth. I always do better in terms of leaning out while increasing strength and muscle mass when I eat a little more freely within a context of clean food. At any rate, my body and performance have responded immediately.
As far as the cycle; intense heat rushes, vascularity, muscle fullness and hardness, and unbelievable pumps continue 24/7. Increases in LBM are apparent at this time as is increased leanness. Recovery is also improved. Mood is great, as is energy level for the most part; however, when I was really cutting calories I was strong and recovered quickly, but i often felt pretty wiped out. Increasing calories has greatly helped with this, however I think some fatigue is often inevitable when using hormonal anabolics--if for no other reason, building muscle tissue is very "metabolically expensive".
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edje007
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crowbar46
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Well, here we are at about 2.5 weeks into this cycle and I have to say I'm looking like I'm on cycle! My decision to increase calories was well founded as it's immediately paid off in increased leanness and further improvements in performance, which then lead to greater leanness, etc.
Something interesting is delt pumps. Delts, at least for me, are not a muscle group that I normally walk around feeling pumped; well, I do now! I was already blessed with very wide clavicles, and the additional pump in my delts makes my "shoulders" and upper back look incredibly wide!
Weights are increasing and, in fact, I'm feeling very explosive even with heavy weight. It's interesting, I'm lifting heavy enough in big compound movements to induce quit a bit of soreness and inflamation--I feel pretty wiped out after most sessions--but by the next day I feel completely recovered and could, I believe, train every day! That's how much this cycle has increased my recovery.
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Something interesting is delt pumps. Delts, at least for me, are not a muscle group that I normally walk around feeling pumped; well, I do now! I was already blessed with very wide clavicles, and the additional pump in my delts makes my "shoulders" and upper back look incredibly wide!
Weights are increasing and, in fact, I'm feeling very explosive even with heavy weight. It's interesting, I'm lifting heavy enough in big compound movements to induce quit a bit of soreness and inflamation--I feel pretty wiped out after most sessions--but by the next day I feel completely recovered and could, I believe, train every day! That's how much this cycle has increased my recovery.
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BigRed1974
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Love that feeling of hitting it hard but ready to train the next day!
crowbar46
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Yes indeed, nothing like it!
So, for the first 2.5 weeks I was getting some decent lethargy/fatigue--I figure because at 4ml/day the DermaFury is out of balance with the DermaTrest at only 62.5mg./day. I suspect the fatigue would have been less if:
A) I hadn't cut calories so drastically (when will I learn?!)
B) The Trest was dosed higher relative to the Fury
However, on day 19 (Monday, Sept 15th) the fatigue seemed to have "broken", and is much better now. This tends to make me think that a lot of the fatigue was simply from too low of calories.
leanness continues to improve, although obviously not as dramatically as with a traditional cutting approach; however cutting calories beyond a very modest amount ALWAYS leads to a decrease in performance so dramatic for me that as a performance based trainer it simply isn't worth it.
So, to recap:
1) Increased recovery
2) moderate increases in strength
3) extreme pumps 24/7
4) extreme muscle hardness
5) extreme vascularity
6) modest increases in leanness; however, it's hard to quantify exactly the contribution from the drugs Vs. diet and training.
7) definite increases in LBM; I'm much denser, more solid also. Not huge "wet" increases, but quality hard muscle!
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crowbar46
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Sorry for the lack of updates recently, but work is getting hectic!
Well, I had a feeling it would happen: I don't want this cycle to end!!! I'm so impressed with this cycle I can't even tell you! This is THE FIRST legal steroid cycle I've ever done that has really impressed me. I mean EVERYONE is noticing the changes; from friends and family, to guys in the gym, to the gang at the Wed. night poker game.
So, I've decided I'll be purchasing another bottle of DermaFury as well as another bottle of DermaTrest so I can extend this cycle from 6, to 8 (10?) weeks, that's how much I'm lovin it!
That brings me to another point I wanted to bring up. One of the reasons I think this cycle has been so effective is because the steroids have been in transdermal form, which allows for much more stable blood levels compared to orals. That's one of the huge disadvantages of orals--their very short half-life. So, is there any chance that OL might consider producing some of the presently available orals as trandermals?
With the potential new DS ban coming along I may have to invest in a ****in truck load of OL gear! By the way, is there going to be a way around this ban (if, indeed, it does pass) like every time before?
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Well, I had a feeling it would happen: I don't want this cycle to end!!! I'm so impressed with this cycle I can't even tell you! This is THE FIRST legal steroid cycle I've ever done that has really impressed me. I mean EVERYONE is noticing the changes; from friends and family, to guys in the gym, to the gang at the Wed. night poker game.
So, I've decided I'll be purchasing another bottle of DermaFury as well as another bottle of DermaTrest so I can extend this cycle from 6, to 8 (10?) weeks, that's how much I'm lovin it!
That brings me to another point I wanted to bring up. One of the reasons I think this cycle has been so effective is because the steroids have been in transdermal form, which allows for much more stable blood levels compared to orals. That's one of the huge disadvantages of orals--their very short half-life. So, is there any chance that OL might consider producing some of the presently available orals as trandermals?
With the potential new DS ban coming along I may have to invest in a ****in truck load of OL gear! By the way, is there going to be a way around this ban (if, indeed, it does pass) like every time before?
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BigRed1974
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Always a good thing when something actually works like it should.
crowbar46
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Well, I've decided to take this up a notch: I've upped my Trest from 62.5 mg./day, to 100mg./day. The DermaFury will stay at 200mg./day. I actually upped my Fury dose for a while to see what would happen, and I really think that 200mg./day is about the max dose anyone would need. I'll also be extending this cycle from 6 to 8 weeks--stayed tuned!
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ELROCK
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This has been a great log Crowbar. Thanks for all the info.
crowbar46
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ELRock, you're very welcome!
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Ok, to go into a little more detail on my experiment: I upped my DermaFury dose from 200mg./day, to 300 mg./day for a couple of weeks! The end result: in my opinion it's counterproductive. Yes, there was a little more vascularity--that's about it. In exchange, I got blood pressure spikes of 140-145/80-85. I felt like crap for a few days toward the end of my expereiment, and started getting headaches. So, I've backed the dose down to 200 mg./day, and within a couple of days blood pressure is back to only slightly elevated--125-130/75-80 (my diastolic pressure is actually great) headaches are gone and I feel great again.
So, 200 mg./day of the DermaFury seems likely to me to be the MAX DOSE anyone would need or benefit from.
Also, i've taken my lesson to heart and instead of jumping the DermaTrest dose from 62.5 mg./day to 100 mg./day, I've decided to play it a little more conservatively for my first run with Trest and only raise the dose to 75 mg./day.
Again, muscle density, vascularity, and a F'in beautiful 24/7 pump continue unabated. Visually leaner and with increased LBM
Weight wise, since having to take 3 months off due to a minor digestive health issue, I've been on a giant recomp for the last 4 months. In fact, it's been so successful that I'm within 2 lbs. of where I started 4 months ago, but with great improvements in my physique. Yes, obviously some of this has been a "rebound" effect from resuming training, but the improvements have accelerated since the beginning of the cycle.
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Ok, to go into a little more detail on my experiment: I upped my DermaFury dose from 200mg./day, to 300 mg./day for a couple of weeks! The end result: in my opinion it's counterproductive. Yes, there was a little more vascularity--that's about it. In exchange, I got blood pressure spikes of 140-145/80-85. I felt like crap for a few days toward the end of my expereiment, and started getting headaches. So, I've backed the dose down to 200 mg./day, and within a couple of days blood pressure is back to only slightly elevated--125-130/75-80 (my diastolic pressure is actually great) headaches are gone and I feel great again.
So, 200 mg./day of the DermaFury seems likely to me to be the MAX DOSE anyone would need or benefit from.
Also, i've taken my lesson to heart and instead of jumping the DermaTrest dose from 62.5 mg./day to 100 mg./day, I've decided to play it a little more conservatively for my first run with Trest and only raise the dose to 75 mg./day.
Again, muscle density, vascularity, and a F'in beautiful 24/7 pump continue unabated. Visually leaner and with increased LBM
Weight wise, since having to take 3 months off due to a minor digestive health issue, I've been on a giant recomp for the last 4 months. In fact, it's been so successful that I'm within 2 lbs. of where I started 4 months ago, but with great improvements in my physique. Yes, obviously some of this has been a "rebound" effect from resuming training, but the improvements have accelerated since the beginning of the cycle.
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militovle
New member
This whole thread has been like a short story for me. It's blown my mind man. I was originally here for the Ostarine and stayed for the Tr3st/Fury run. You go into GREAT detail and my man it is greatly appreciated. The whole running Nolva during the cycle is what really peaked my interest seeing as I don't want to potentially destroy my estro with Aromasin or Adex. I've been wanting to give Tr3st a go but scared to try it since reading about all the Estro/Gyno flare ups it seems to be causing however I assume that most people fail to take the proper precautions. Quick question, are you running anything else besides the TD Tr3st and the DermaFury? Any liver protection?
crowbar46
Active member
Glad it was of use to you! As far as liver protection I always take LiverCare (it used to be called Liv52). This supplement has been produced for 50 or 60 years, is a registered herbal drug in over 40 countries, and has a couple hundred clinical studies showing its saftey and efficacy. For more liver toxic 17a orals I would also use OL TUDCA. I'm not running anything hormonal other than the Trest and Fury.
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crowbar46
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Well, I eventually upped my Trest from 1, to 1.25, to 1.5ml/day. At the higher dose I got pretty high blood pressure readings(145-150/85-90), so I've backed the Trest down to 1ml/day and the Fury to 3ml/day. This should resolve the issue without too much loss in effect. I do have to say at 1.5ml/day the Trest was starting to produce some very nice strength increases! It's just not worth playing around with your blood pressure however. Next run I'll look into preloading supplements to help with controlling blood pressure. Otherwise, training is going great! Weight is staying steady but strength, leanness, and LBM continue to increase.
I'd say from my experience OL products are definitely not underdosed--if anything, maybe "overdosed".
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I'd say from my experience OL products are definitely not underdosed--if anything, maybe "overdosed".
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crowbar46
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Ok, a small update. Here we are at day 31. Ramping the Trest up to 1.5ml/day definitely produced some very noticeable strength gains, but as I said it felt really strong at that dose and produced sides that just weren't worth it to me. OL labs transdermals seem overdosed to me, especially considering I cut the Fury back from 4ml./day to 3ml.
At 4 weeks I'm experiencing a second wave of effects--hard to believe, but even more muscle density/hardness and pumps that are just crazy. At this point increased muscle mass is very evident despite an iso-caloric diet, and leanness has definitely increased; although, as I've said, it's hard to say how much of this effect is directly caused by the drugs as opposed to diet and training. This I can say: by increasing strength and endurance the Trest and Fury have allowed me to train harder, which obviously will affect both LBM and leanness.
Hopefully these increased effects will persist despite my lowering the Trest and Fury doses-- stayed tuned!
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At 4 weeks I'm experiencing a second wave of effects--hard to believe, but even more muscle density/hardness and pumps that are just crazy. At this point increased muscle mass is very evident despite an iso-caloric diet, and leanness has definitely increased; although, as I've said, it's hard to say how much of this effect is directly caused by the drugs as opposed to diet and training. This I can say: by increasing strength and endurance the Trest and Fury have allowed me to train harder, which obviously will affect both LBM and leanness.
Hopefully these increased effects will persist despite my lowering the Trest and Fury doses-- stayed tuned!
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BigRed1974
Well-known member
Good stuff!!
crowbar46
Active member
Thanks for the kind words guys.
Since backing the Trest down to 1ml/day I do seem to be experiencing more lethargy, nothing extreme but more noticible. At 1.25-1.5ml/day the Trest really produced some great energy, mood and strength enhancement but, unfortunately for me, this was offset by increasing side effects: namely, high blood pressure. Truth be told, even at 1ml/day Trest and 3ml/day Fury, my blood pressure was running a little higher than I'd like to see--140/80, not bad but I'd like to see the systolic number a little lower. So, before my next run I'm going to concentrate on doing some intensive CV conditioning and researching supplements to control blood pressure on cycle. I really want to be able to run the Trest at 1.5ml/day along with another DS.
I think 1.25-1.5ml/day DermaTrest is the sweet spot, at least for me. That's where you're gonna see some significant strength gains and real mass gains.
So here we are at 1 day short of 5 weeks. At this point I think this log has served its useful life, so I'd like to summarize:
1) Nice steady strength increases; nothing extreme, but then again this is a somewhat mild cycle.
2) Definite increase in muscle mass despite an essentially overall iso-caloric diet. Not massive amounts of "wet" muscle, but hard, dense, quality muscle.
3) small but noticible increase in leanness; again, this was my decision to NOT do a hard-core cut but a long (multi month) recomp.
4) EXTREME pumps, 24/7
5) Definite increase in muscle hardness/density
6) Definite increase in vascularity; at the higher 4ml/day dose of DermaFury it became EXTREME in body parts that were already relative lean--i.e., forearms, biceps, shoulders, upper chest--to the point where my wife was grossed out by it!
7) Increased recovery rates
8) At the higher 1.25-1.5ml/day DermaTrest doses increased energy, aggression, and mood elevation.
This would be a GREAT contest prep stack, for example!
I started at 235.8 Lbs. I'll get a weight in a few days when I can get a good morning, empty stomach, weigh in. I can tell you though, I'll be with in a 2-3 Lbs. of this weight. I've literally done a giant 5 month long recomp where I'll end up within a few Lbs. of where I started, but with significantly increased LBM, and modestly decreased body fat.
Thanks everyone for following along; until next time!
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Since backing the Trest down to 1ml/day I do seem to be experiencing more lethargy, nothing extreme but more noticible. At 1.25-1.5ml/day the Trest really produced some great energy, mood and strength enhancement but, unfortunately for me, this was offset by increasing side effects: namely, high blood pressure. Truth be told, even at 1ml/day Trest and 3ml/day Fury, my blood pressure was running a little higher than I'd like to see--140/80, not bad but I'd like to see the systolic number a little lower. So, before my next run I'm going to concentrate on doing some intensive CV conditioning and researching supplements to control blood pressure on cycle. I really want to be able to run the Trest at 1.5ml/day along with another DS.
I think 1.25-1.5ml/day DermaTrest is the sweet spot, at least for me. That's where you're gonna see some significant strength gains and real mass gains.
So here we are at 1 day short of 5 weeks. At this point I think this log has served its useful life, so I'd like to summarize:
1) Nice steady strength increases; nothing extreme, but then again this is a somewhat mild cycle.
2) Definite increase in muscle mass despite an essentially overall iso-caloric diet. Not massive amounts of "wet" muscle, but hard, dense, quality muscle.
3) small but noticible increase in leanness; again, this was my decision to NOT do a hard-core cut but a long (multi month) recomp.
4) EXTREME pumps, 24/7
5) Definite increase in muscle hardness/density
6) Definite increase in vascularity; at the higher 4ml/day dose of DermaFury it became EXTREME in body parts that were already relative lean--i.e., forearms, biceps, shoulders, upper chest--to the point where my wife was grossed out by it!
7) Increased recovery rates
8) At the higher 1.25-1.5ml/day DermaTrest doses increased energy, aggression, and mood elevation.
This would be a GREAT contest prep stack, for example!
I started at 235.8 Lbs. I'll get a weight in a few days when I can get a good morning, empty stomach, weigh in. I can tell you though, I'll be with in a 2-3 Lbs. of this weight. I've literally done a giant 5 month long recomp where I'll end up within a few Lbs. of where I started, but with significantly increased LBM, and modestly decreased body fat.
Thanks everyone for following along; until next time!
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BigRed1974
Well-known member
Thanks for such a good log and review. Solid information for all of us here
crowbar46
Active member
Thanks, BigRed; I hope this will serve to answer a lot of questions for people new to these particular substances, or those new to OL. Glad you found it useful!
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808shredded
Active member
Thanks for a very informative, detailed log crowbar! I will be definitely looking for more up coming logs from you.