Epic Cutting Stack

Pull day today went well. I'm liking the structure of a heavy 5x5 compound followed by a 3x8-12 accessory lift. Took me about 70min to complete the pull routine I laid out above.

Strength was up a little more today too. Felt less stiff overall. Really enjoyed having deadlifts back in the routine. Forgot how much more I enjoy them then rdl or sldl.
 
Reasoning behind FST-7?
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I know Hany was one who kind of made it, but then again his clients are on enough stuff to blow up the world lol.
 
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Reasoning behind FST-7? Invalid Link Removed I know Hany was one who kind of made it, but then again his clients are on enough stuff to blow up the world lol.
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I like the blast at the end of the workout. It's almost like a hiit bout to finish up. I don't worry so much about the squeezing and stretching bit mostly just exhausting and very short (usually 15sec) rest sets.
 
Really enjoying my cut so far, which is odd as normally i really hate it.
And the best part, i've lost only 1lb over the past two months running this lot.

125mg Sus
12.5mg Ostarine
4 scoops Alphamine
Tmg
T3
Reservatrol
Curcumin
Now throwing 75mg of forskolin, and already noticing an increase in temper and some further leaning out.

With any luck by end of next week i'll be starting my 8 week follidrone run.
 
Feeling nice and sore after my pull day. Lower back really felt those deadlifts. Did 20min of some low/med ss cardio this morning with some light jogging and fast walking outside since the weather is finally nice. Also decided to move some of my fat around and added a whole egg to each of my pre workout meals. This will nearly eliminate fat from the pwo/pre-bed meals.

Weight was 181.3lb yesterday morning so right about where I expected it to be (+1lb). This should come right off getting back in the gym and some cardio this week. I expect to hit about 180 by next Sunday. Still gonna bump another 50 kcals for the week up to 2050.
 
Second set of push/pull days are in the books. Some thoughts: I like the 2 on 1 off setup for getting in the gym often, however I'm not sure that I'll get optimal performance lifting the same muscles only 2 days apart. Might need to switch back to a push/pull/legs and a 3 on 1 off split after july so that I can eat more, train more, and really focus on increasing strength and mass. The push/pull will certainly do the job as far as just getting in some heavy lifting but I feel like progress could be very slow on lower cals.
 
booneman77 said:
You're running this as well right? Whats your plan look like and have you used it before?
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Yep, haven't started yet. First time running anything other than Dermacrine, actually.

This is my plan so far:

1.5mL of XI-KT per day (After my shower, which is post workout)
3 caps Combustion per day
2 scoops Alphamine pre-cardio
Adding DCP 2.0 into the mix first part of June.
Should finish XI-KT right before the end of June (haven't decided when to start yet, this week or next)
Day after XI-KT ends, I will start my PCT which will be Erase, Supremacy 2.0 and DAA for 6 weeks. I might throw in some MacaPro if it is released by then :D

Other staples that I always have are Orange Triad or Anavite (OTatm), Fish oil (Oximega atm) and BodyForge 2.0 (4 scoops per day, split 2 and 2).

Since I'm losing a bit of weight already at 3,150 with added cardio, I might keep cals the same and see what happens. If not leaning well enough, I'll drop to ~2,800.
 
Misfit28 said:
Yep, haven't started yet. First time running anything other than Dermacrine, actually.

This is my plan so far:

1.5mL of XI-KT per day (After my shower, which is post workout)
3 caps Combustion per day
2 scoops Alphamine pre-cardio
Adding DCP 2.0 into the mix first part of June.
Should finish XI-KT right before the end of June (haven't decided when to start yet, this week or next)
Day after XI-KT ends, I will start my PCT which will be Erase, Supremacy 2.0 and DAA for 6 weeks. I might throw in some MacaPro if it is released by then :D

Other staples that I always have are Orange Triad or Anavite (OTatm), Fish oil (Oximega atm) and BodyForge 2.0 (4 scoops per day, split 2 and 2).

Since I'm losing a bit of weight already at 3,150 with added cardio, I might keep cals the same and see what happens. If not leaning well enough, I'll drop to ~2,800.
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Solid Plan. Are you gonna log it? If not feel free to throw up pics/updates in here from time to time and we can compare results
 
booneman77 said:
Solid Plan. Are you gonna log it? If not feel free to throw up pics/updates in here from time to time and we can compare results
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Sweet! I just might!

It will help me stay motivated and on track. I've got some decent muscle mass, but the problem area of my lower back "love handles" and belly are one of the reasons why I chose XI-KT.

I'm just afraid my loose skin (from losing ~110-155 lbs.) will become even more loose and obscure all my muscles :(
 
Misfit28 said:
Sweet! I just might!

It will help me stay motivated and on track. I've got some decent muscle mass, but the problem area of my lower back "love handles" and belly are one of the reasons why I chose XI-KT.

I'm just afraid my loose skin (from losing ~110-155 lbs.) will become even more loose and obscure all my muscles :(
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Been curious about the 11-keto product from LG as well as the Legion product you're about to run. I was however too lazy to figure out dosing and PCT protocols for it so I never pulled the trigger :P

Btw, saw your post on bb, yeah, surprise to me as well, thankfully it's a temp ban that should be lifted on the 21st. Whew :P
 
kissdadookie said:
Been curious about the 11-keto product from LG as well as the Legion product you're about to run. I was however too lazy to figure out dosing and PCT protocols for it so I never pulled the trigger :P

Btw, saw your post on bb, yeah, surprise to me as well, thankfully it's a temp ban that should be lifted on the 21st. Whew :P
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Good. It looks like it was a mass banning incident ;)
 
Misfit28 said:
Good. It looks like it was a mass banning incident ;)
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Yeah, for steroid talk no less. Ok, I can understand it if the policy is that the word steroid or AAS or anabolics should not be used whatsoever, but one really has to dig deep and hard to misconstrue that thread as a thread talking about steroids in any meaningful way. I guess someone dug down really really really deep.
 
kissdadookie said:
Yeah, for steroid talk no less. Ok, I can understand it if the policy is that the word steroid or AAS or anabolics should not be used whatsoever, but one really has to dig deep and hard to misconstrue that thread as a thread talking about steroids in any meaningful way. I guess someone dug down really really really deep.
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Apparently so. I didn't see all the posts, as I'm sure some were deleted. I think my post was even deleted, LOL.
 
Misfit28 said:
Sweet! I just might! It will help me stay motivated and on track. I've got some decent muscle mass, but the problem area of my lower back "love handles" and belly are one of the reasons why I chose XI-KT. I'm just afraid my loose skin (from losing ~110-155 lbs.) will become even more loose and obscure all my muscles :(
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Ya my lower belly/love handles seem to be really holding me back as well. I'm pretty excited. Mine is suppose to be here tomorrow so I may start fri morning. Def get your stats and pics in here if you need the motivation. The nice thing about using something like this is that it should really tighten things up by helping fill up your muscles so assuming you've got reasonable abs underneath I would think it might actually help with any loose skin.
 
booneman77 said:
Ya my lower belly/love handles seem to be really holding me back as well. I'm pretty excited. Mine is suppose to be here tomorrow so I may start fri morning. Def get your stats and pics in here if you need the motivation. The nice thing about using something like this is that it should really tighten things up by helping fill up your muscles so assuming you've got reasonable abs underneath I would think it might actually help with any loose skin.
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I need to get some better pics. Took som elast night, but they weren't so great. Need to get the wife to take them.

I just applied my first dose of 1.5 mL of XI-KT this morning.

Morning weight was 224.4#, last week it was 225.8#. Solid loss rate for 1 week at 3,150 calories :) I'm going to keep intake the same this next week, so that i can better gauge what adding in the XI-KT is doing :)

Instead of LISS cardio, I think I might do Wingate style HIIT on a bike. This morning I did 5 intervals and almost died, LOL. Nausea was horrible!

I'm going to ease into it a bit more, only doing four intervals tomorrow, LOL.

The XI-KT burned a bit upon application, and it's hard for me to rub it in with my forearms instead of hands.
 
Misfit28 said:
I need to get some better pics. Took som elast night, but they weren't so great. Need to get the wife to take them.

I just applied my first dose of 1.5 mL of XI-KT this morning.

Morning weight was 224.4#, last week it was 225.8#. Solid loss rate for 1 week at 3,150 calories :) I'm going to keep intake the same this next week, so that i can better gauge what adding in the XI-KT is doing :)

Instead of LISS cardio, I think I might do Wingate style HIIT on a bike. This morning I did 5 intervals and almost died, LOL. Nausea was horrible!

I'm going to ease into it a bit more, only doing four intervals tomorrow, LOL.

The XI-KT burned a bit upon application, and it's hard for me to rub it in with my forearms instead of hands.
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Definitely interested to see how your XI-KT run goes, as well as booneman77's (my impressions here is that he's also starting a run of that product?).

Is 3 ml's a day a high dose? I think the regular label instruction is 1 ml once per day right?
 
kissdadookie said:
Definitely interested to see how your XI-KT run goes, as well as booneman77's (my impressions here is that he's also starting a run of that product?).

Is 3 ml's a day a high dose? I think the regular label instruction is 1 ml once per day right?
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Yep mine should arrive this afternoon so I'll start tomorrow. Gonna run 1ml/day.
 
Misfit28 said:
I need to get some better pics. Took som elast night, but they weren't so great. Need to get the wife to take them.

I just applied my first dose of 1.5 mL of XI-KT this morning.

Morning weight was 224.4#, last week it was 225.8#. Solid loss rate for 1 week at 3,150 calories :) I'm going to keep intake the same this next week, so that i can better gauge what adding in the XI-KT is doing :)

Instead of LISS cardio, I think I might do Wingate style HIIT on a bike. This morning I did 5 intervals and almost died, LOL. Nausea was horrible!

I'm going to ease into it a bit more, only doing four intervals tomorrow, LOL.

The XI-KT burned a bit upon application, and it's hard for me to rub it in with my forearms instead of hands.
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I've been doing sprints occasionally on the treadmill which is a nice break from the LISS. I do like my morning jogs tho now that the weather is nicer.

Where did you apply yours and why not just use your hands and wash? Or latex gloves?
 
booneman77 said:
I've been doing sprints occasionally on the treadmill which is a nice break from the LISS. I do like my morning jogs tho now that the weather is nicer.

Where did you apply yours and why not just use your hands and wash? Or latex gloves?
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I've heard that the skin on your hands is thicker than on your forearms, so you can maximize your absorption by using your forearms. Makes sense, as the stuff that gets on your hands and you wash away goes to waste :)

I applied it to my shoulders/chest. I know one thing, it is like an oil, and it's a bit harder IMO to apply than Dermacrine. Dermacrine is easy because it's thicker. Also, it is a bit difficult to tell when it is dry.
 
Misfit28 said:
I've heard that the skin on your hands is thicker than on your forearms, so you can maximize your absorption by using your forearms. Makes sense, as the stuff that gets on your hands and you wash away goes to waste :)

I applied it to my shoulders/chest. I know one thing, it is like an oil, and it's a bit harder IMO to apply than Dermacrine. Dermacrine is easy because it's thicker. Also, it is a bit difficult to tell when it is dry.
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Ya that makes sense. I knew there was a reason people did this with td's but forgot why. I started mine this morning. 1ml after a shower. It has a nice, spicy type smell to it, almost like a cologne. It's not nearly as oily as I expected but this is my first td so I don't have much to compare it to. I just dropped small amounts at a time and rubbed them each in then dropped more so I wasn't chasing streams of it down my body ha. Took some pics for a baseline this morn that I'll upload in a min from my phone.
 
Weight this morning was 180.6lb been holding pretty steady since the last kcal bump so ill prob go 1 more week at 2050 and then start back down for the final weeks (prob drop 50/wk)

Also think I'm going to switch back to my old bb style carbs in the morn/afternoon and none in the eve as I've seen faster results this way. I love the CBL style but the results are just too slow for where I want to be in a few weeks.

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booneman77 said:
Ya that makes sense. I knew there was a reason people did this with td's but forgot why. I started mine this morning. 1ml after a shower. It has a nice, spicy type smell to it, almost like a cologne. It's not nearly as oily as I expected but this is my first td so I don't have much to compare it to. I just dropped small amounts at a time and rubbed them each in then dropped more so I wasn't chasing streams of it down my body ha. Took some pics for a baseline this morn that I'll upload in a min from my phone.
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Yeah, it's more like an essential oil type viscosity. Not thick.

It almost smells like some type of wood to me.

I have been having trouble getting a full 1mL in the dropper, so I'm trying to get as close to .75mL as possible two times.

I have to get some pics this weekend!

This morning I felt a bit of a mood boost after applying it. I wonder if I didn't wait long enough yesterday before dressing. I stand under a fan in the gym, and did so for longer today.
 
booneman77 said:
Weight this morning was 180.6lb been holding pretty steady since the last kcal bump so ill prob go 1 more week at 2050 and then start back down for the final weeks (prob drop 50/wk)

Also think I'm going to switch back to my old bb style carbs in the morn/afternoon and none in the eve as I've seen faster results this way. I love the CBL style but the results are just too slow for where I want to be in a few weeks.

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You should see some excellent results from XI-KT IMO. I have that ab shadow as well, but a ton of loose skin as well. What BF% did you say you estimate that you are right now?
 
How you allot your carbs wont really benefit your overall weightloss/fatloss, the grand scheme of things is your deficit. You look very lean as is right now, how long total have you been cutting? Almost 6 months?
 
Misfit28 said:
Yeah, it's more like an essential oil type viscosity. Not thick.

It almost smells like some type of wood to me.

I have been having trouble getting a full 1mL in the dropper, so I'm trying to get as close to .75mL as possible two times.

I have to get some pics this weekend!

This morning I felt a bit of a mood boost after applying it. I wonder if I didn't wait long enough yesterday before dressing. I stand under a fan in the gym, and did so for longer today.
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Ya I can see the wood smell... I found the same thing with the full 1ml in the dropper. I just did 2x .5ml same way you did.

Noodz FTW.

Misfit28 said:
You should see some excellent results from XI-KT IMO. I have that ab shadow as well, but a ton of loose skin as well. What BF% did you say you estimate that you are right now?
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I did calipers on myself the other day and it came out at 12% which was right about what I figured. I had hoped to be 10 or so by now but I'm sure I wont have as much trouble keeping the weight off since I went slower. I'm like 2x the size I was last time I cut down to single digits so it should be a good look assuming the next few weeks go well.
 
The Solution said:
How you allot your carbs wont really benefit your overall weightloss/fatloss, the grand scheme of things is your deficit. You look very lean as is right now, how long total have you been cutting? Almost 6 months?
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I realize the timing shouldn't matter as much but for me I've noticed a difference. I'm def not leaning out at the rate I was when I ran that style and I think its partially to do with the fact that after I eat my two largest meals (pwo and pre bed) I'm not doing any kind of activity. None of that food gets used immediately which in turn means I end up truly absorbing more kcals. I'll prob switch more for peace of mind and then really judge. 2 years apart and my body is totally different makes it hard to get a good comparison. I'll throw up pics from when i cut a couple yrs ago for ref.
 
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kissdadookie said:
Definitely a lot of positive size gains now vs your old progress pics.
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Ya I was only about 150lb or so after my peak week. After my race I went directly to taco bell and ordered the entire value menu and 5 other items. Ate it all in like 10min while holding a full convo. Then stopped at every rest stop between philadelphia and pittsburgh and got some type of garbage food. I ate my way across the state. Then proceeded to eat nothing but cookies, ice cream, junk cereal, and all other types of garbage for an entire week while getting drunk for almost 10 days straight. Needless to say I gained 30lb in 2.5 weeks ha. never again. My skin literally hurt from stretching back out so fast.
 
booneman77 said:
Ya I was only about 150lb or so after my peak week. After my race I went directly to taco bell and ordered the entire value menu and 5 other items. Ate it all in like 10min while holding a full convo. Then stopped at every rest stop between philadelphia and pittsburgh and got some type of garbage food. I ate my way across the state. Then proceeded to eat nothing but cookies, ice cream, junk cereal, and all other types of garbage for an entire week while getting drunk for almost 10 days straight. Needless to say I gained 30lb in 2.5 weeks ha. never again. My skin literally hurt from stretching back out so fast.
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That sounds like me when I eat... every day :P

Forgot to mention earlier, personally, I think nutrient timing to some extent probably does matter. I mean, if you have a large or most of your carbs around the time you are working out and you have a pretty intense and long session, I don't see how there wouldn't be some sort of positive partitioning effect for what you're consuming. Of course your total daily energy expendition obviously has to exceed your intake, but I would think that if anything, there would be more efficiency in where the nutrients go based on when you take in those nutrients.
 
I did IF with carb cycling around training days for a long time. Not really sure if it mattered or not, TBH.

I went back to an isocaloric diet during this cut to keep things more simple.

Still contemplating cutting at a deeper deficit now that I have started the XI-KT. Of course, I'm losing right now at 3,150 calories with added cardio :)

Was thinking of dropping to 2,800, but really don't want to lose strength or muscle. I'm shifting to HIIT cardio as well, as LISS takes too long and may not be as efficient.
 
Misfit28 said:
I did IF with carb cycling around training days for a long time. Not really sure if it mattered or not, TBH. I went back to an isocaloric diet during this cut to keep things more simple. Still contemplating cutting at a deeper deficit now that I have started the XI-KT. Of course, I'm losing right now at 3,150 calories with added cardio :) Was thinking of dropping to 2,800, but really don't want to lose strength or muscle. I'm shifting to HIIT cardio as well, as LISS takes too long and may not be as efficient.
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So jealous of all your calories ha... I've reverse dieted up to 2050 right now and am gonna have to cut back. Stupid metabolism.
 
kissdadookie said:
That sounds like me when I eat... every day :P

Forgot to mention earlier, personally, I think nutrient timing to some extent probably does matter. I mean, if you have a large or most of your carbs around the time you are working out and you have a pretty intense and long session, I don't see how there wouldn't be some sort of positive partitioning effect for what you're consuming. Of course your total daily energy expendition obviously has to exceed your intake, but I would think that if anything, there would be more efficiency in where the nutrients go based on when you take in those nutrients.
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I think timing definitely makes a diff, but for my current goals, fat loss (even at the expense of a bit of muscle) is the main goal. I know that I can lose weight/fat on the AM only carbs plan so that's my reason for switching back. For sanity and long term though eating more in the evenings is def the way to go for me as far as "lifestyle". Gonna start carbing earlier this weekend and will type up the new diet layout starting monday. kcals will prob stay the same or go down slightly and sources will change a bit as I'll be eliminating the white rice and other faster digesting carbs that were more useful pwo.
 
booneman77 said:
I'm not doing any kind of activity. None of that food gets used immediately which in turn means I end up truly absorbing more kcals ref.
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Wtf you talking about
Your in a deficit your body is not holding anything. The body is constantly burning kcals hence BMR ghat you burned earlier in the day still takes
Merit
To the 24 hour period if you train earlier but eatore
Later your overall caloric balance is what matters not
If you intake the majority later not around training that makes 0 sense bro lol. Think big picture

I am sure you has read Alan's work or signed up for his AARR Alan arGon research review and a lot
F the articles out there on meeting protein fiber and fat minimums whole allowing to your caloric goal to suit your overall goal ya?

Don't get me wrong having
Some CHO around workouts is better for some than others but in the end personal preference if your in a deficit you will lose period and we know your there the mirror shows it
 
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Was you utilizing X1-KT, it states it's a pro hormone. Just wondering what else you utilized to keep your test from shutting down. Mind you I have no experience with pro hormones so I'm just asking.
 
HokiePride said:
Was you utilizing X1-KT, it states it's a pro hormone. Just wondering what else you utilized to keep your test from shutting down. Mind you I have no experience with pro hormones so I'm just asking.
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Those pics are from a couple yrs ago. I just started the 11-kt this morning. That cut was actually 100% natural. The only supplement I even used was protein powder. Not even a fat burner.
 
kissdadookie said:
Pct or none since you're using a low dose?
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I'll see how I feel. I have a few bottles of alphamax, a few og epro, t-x3, some bulk DAA and ans fortitude natty test booster just laying around if I need any. I also have some leftover Nolva just in case
 
booneman77 said:
I'll see how I feel. I have a few bottles of alphamax, a few og epro, t-x3, some bulk DAA and ans fortitude natty test booster just laying around if I need any. I also have some leftover Nolva just in case
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In to see how it goes for you, I keep looking at these 11-keto products but then get a headache thinking about pct :P
 
kissdadookie said:
In to see how it goes for you, I keep looking at these 11-keto products but then get a headache thinking about pct :P
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Well I've run some real stuff before so I'll have a good comparison. And understand how things should feel if there is any type of shutdown or hormone imbalance
 
Everything I've read thus far points to OTC test boosters being fine for PCT. My PCT will most likely include DAA, LGI Rehab and Supremacy 2.0. I'll probably run DCP 2.0 as well.
 
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