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Epi-Strong makes a comeback!

SpmnE9zero said:
I dont know about you guys but after a cycle I lose a lot of interest in hitting the gym. What are you guys taking to stay focused and continuing to hit it hard?
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after not taking stim's on cycle for a month....when pct starts, turn to something like N2KTS to up the focus and intensity in the gym once a cycle ends
 
Young Gotti said:
after not taking stim's on cycle for a month....when pct starts, turn to something like N2KTS to up the focus and intensity in the gym once a cycle ends
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Great idea. It gives you something to look forward to in PCT ;)
 
So this is what I am thinking at the moment.

CEL - Cycle Assist
Epi-Strong
CEL - 11-Sterone (unless you guys see a problem stacking those)
CEL - PCT
Erase
N2KTS

I dont think a Nolva is necessary... no problems before what do you think?
How does that look?
 
Looks fine, I think Epi isn't that suppressive honestly. I personally include SERMs just to recover quicker, but I'm not prone to gyno.

Another thing to consider is Bridge afterwards when you're done with your PCT, to keep the motivation and drive going.
 
what makes epi-strong so compatible with other stuff?
so I can stack 11-sterone no problem? why is this? I just like to understand stuff before I put it in my body.

no prostate issues on epi?
 
SpmnE9zero said:
what makes epi-strong so compatible with other stuff?
so I can stack 11-sterone no problem? why is this? I just like to understand stuff before I put it in my body.

no prostate issues on epi?
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With any PH/DS there's potential for prostate issues, MPB, BP, lipids, etc. Most are reversible through a solid PCT and time off. If you have a cycle support like Cycle Assist, you would be mostly covered, though some damage is inevitably done.

11-Sterone is adrenosterone, which inhibits the conversion cortisone to cortisol, which reduces the effect of cortisol on things like fat storage. This is great for leaning out, with mild anabolic properties. It's more mild than Epi, but works in a different/complementary way, so stacking is fine.
 
SpmnE9zero said:
So this is what I am thinking at the moment.

CEL - Cycle Assist
Epi-Strong
CEL - 11-Sterone (unless you guys see a problem stacking those)
CEL - PCT
Erase
N2KTS

I dont think a Nolva is necessary... no problems before what do you think?
How does that look?
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Looks good bro. I still think a SERM should be used with EPI but that's me. A lot of people do an OTC PCT like you have laid out and recover fine.
 
I understand, maybe just pick it up anyway and have it on hand. You just never know!

Last cycle, I came off with a lack of focus, memory just want there, and seemed tired all the time, very minor libido changes. Was still willing and able, but took a moment longer to grab elevation.

Last PCT was CEL PCT and L.G. Form Extreme, hence switching up to Erase over the Form Extreme. L.G. Formadrol was way better than the Form Extr....

You guys think better results with Epi-Strong over Mdrol or Hdrol or about the same?
 
SpmnE9zero said:
I understand, maybe just pick it up anyway and have it on hand. You just never know!

Last cycle, I came off with a lack of focus, memory just want there, and seemed tired all the time, very minor libido changes. Was still willing and able, but took a moment longer to grab elevation.

Last PCT was CEL PCT and L.G. Form Extreme, hence switching up to Erase over the Form Extreme. L.G. Formadrol was way better than the Form Extr....

You guys think better results with Epi-Strong over Mdrol or Hdrol or about the same?
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Results will be different, but similar. All three are "dry", but with Mdrol people tend to "blow up" a bit as I think you experienced from lots of extra glycogen. Gains on Epi will be less lbs, but it will be more LBM and quality. HDrol is similar to Epi, but Epi is "dry-er" IMO.

Your stack of Epi/11-Sterone will be better for getting cut than HDrol/Mdrol, and you can add some nice strength and lean mass.
 
Steelwolf said:
I do otc and recover fine, but serms make sure of it much better. Epi is pretty mild
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A lot of that depends on dose and duration of cycle too. You can get shutdown pretty hard running 45-60mg for 6 weeks. I did that on a run, and as great as my gains were, my nuts were about the size of grapes by the end of it. On higher dosed cycles of EPI, I would always use a SERM.
 
Def agree with 6 weeks of EPI, will shut you down. But I've also seen a guy run 10+ week AAS cycles and not use a SERM, rather HCGen & Phyto, Osta and some Peps I believe. And recover fine. I'm sure you know who that is!

If you have a good OTC lined up you will recover fine. I always run a low dose of clomid but I'm starting to think it's not even needed.
 
Epi-strong is 10% off this weekend only with a discount code "labor10"

Get it for 47.70$ per bottle before its gone! :run:
 
Something about the 15mg per capsule made this work way better for me than name brand Epistane, and 3 other clones I tried that each had 10mg per cap!
 
jtornese said:
Something about the 15mg per capsule made this work way better for me than name brand Epistane, and 3 other clones I tried that each had 10mg per cap!
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The 15mg caps are a nice thing to have vs 10mg caps. It gives a lot better dosing options with less caps. That is a big plus when trying to get the most out of a bottle ;)
 
Get it while it's 10% off, I think today is the last day!
 
SpmnE9zero said:
On its way, will let you know my gains! ;)
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You will love those Epi-strong gains!! Get ready for some serious strength and muscle! :sgrin:
 
SpmnE9zero said:
thanks for the advice. I will have to ease into it and really just be careful.
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The main concern with Epi-Strong is the joints. They will dry out somewhat on cycle, but it can easily be alleviated with some Cissus. It will make you joints feel 10x better with it. Glucosamine and MSM help also, but Cissus is the best ;)
 
Question on Epi strong storage. I've finished a bottle of havoc and started on my Epi-Strong to stretch my cycle out to 5-6 weeks.
Thing is, I've gotten sick and have to take antibiotics, so it's probably best I start PCT . Will the opened Bottle of Epi-strong keep ok in an opened/unsealed bottle for 4 months, stored in a dark, cool cupboard.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, nut I'm new to ph and would hate to waste any Epi-strong.
Thanks.
 
kansui said:
Question on Epi strong storage. I've finished a bottle of havoc and started on my Epi-Strong to stretch my cycle out to 5-6 weeks.
Thing is, I've gotten sick and have to take antibiotics, so it's probably best I start PCT . Will the opened Bottle of Epi-strong keep ok in an opened/unsealed bottle for 4 months, stored in a dark, cool cupboard.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, nut I'm new to ph and would hate to waste any Epi-strong.
Thanks.
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Yeh bro it will be fine. When I ran Epi-strong, I had a partial bottle left at the end of my cycle and I used it as a part of a SD/EPI bridge a few months later and it was just as potent as new. As long as it is stored in a dry cool dark place it would be good for years ;)
 
RickRock13 said:
Yeh bro it will be fine. When I ran Epi-strong, I had a partial bottle left at the end of my cycle and I used it as a part of a SD/EPI bridge a few months later and it was just as potent as new. As long as it is stored in a dry cool dark place it would be good for years ;)
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Ok, thanks. It's very annoying to have gotten sick cause the Epi-strong feels much better than the Havoc.
Would you agree that it's not good to take the Epi and antibiotics at the same time? Cause if I did I would probably be better for a strong training week come week 6 to finish off cycle... Although week 5 will be a waste.
I've gained 8.8 pounds so far, mostly lean mass (don't look much bigger, just thicker), so far.... So I'm thinking to continue will not yield much more gains anyway.
It's just that the Epi-strong seems to good to quit early.. Lo
Thanks for your advice.
 
kansui said:
Ok, thanks. It's very annoying to have gotten sick cause the Epi-strong feels much better than the Havoc.
Would you agree that it's not good to take the Epi and antibiotics at the same time? Cause if I did I would probably be better for a strong training week come week 6 to finish off cycle... Although week 5 will be a waste.
I've gained 8.8 pounds so far, mostly lean mass (don't look much bigger, just thicker), so far.... So I'm thinking to continue will not yield much more gains anyway.
It's just that the Epi-strong seems to good to quit early.. Lo
Thanks for your advice.
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If it were me I would just enter PCT and save the rest for a future cycle. Anabolics put stress on your body which is why we take support supplements on cycle. Because of that, it isn't a good idea to continue on cycle while trying to recover from an illness. Your body will have a hard enough time, and doesn't need the added stress of the extra hormones in your body.

Good thong is you made it through the most of the cycle and thelast wouldn't have given you much more gains anyhow. They usually start slowing down into the 5th week anyhow..
 
RickRock13 said:
If it were me I would just enter PCT and save the rest for a future cycle. Anabolics put stress on your body which is why we take support supplements on cycle. Because of that, it isn't a good idea to continue on cycle while trying to recover from an illness. Your body will have a hard enough time, and doesn't need the added stress of the extra hormones in your body.

Good thong is you made it through the most of the cycle and thelast wouldn't have given you much more gains anyhow. They usually start slowing down into the 5th week anyhow..
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Ok .... its good to be reassured by someone who knows what there talking about, as what is the best option to take. I will start PCT.
Was a succcessful first cycle, all support supps did their job and hit the weight i was aiming for.
I would defiantly buy more bottles of Epi-Strong if i didnt live in Australia.
 
kansui said:
Ok .... its good to be reassured by someone who knows what there talking about, as what is the best option to take. I will start PCT.
Was a succcessful first cycle, all support supps did their job and hit the weight i was aiming for.
I would defiantly buy more bottles of Epi-Strong if i didnt live in Australia.
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No problem bro. I you have any other questions feel free to PM me.

Epi-strong is great for sure and its too bad its difficult for you to get some. Its worth stocking up on! ;)
 
I had some joint pain while on M but wasnt terrible. I noticed it when I upped my dosages.
I appreciate the forewarning and def keep that in mind! If you say the Cissus is good I will probably buy it before I start the cycle.

Oh and Rick.... Thanks!
 
SpmnE9zero said:
I had some joint pain while on M but wasnt terrible. I noticed it when I upped my dosages.
I appreciate the forewarning and def keep that in mind! If you say the Cissus is good I will probably buy it before I start the cycle.

Oh and Rick.... Thanks!
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Oh yeh man. Cissus makes all the difference in the world on your joints man. A real life saver and your joints will thank you!
 
I typically would just take cod liver oil or something to that effect and that would seem to take care of it, but if cissus is your rec, then cissus it is!
 
RickRock13 said:
Oh yeh man. Cissus makes all the difference in the world on your joints man. A real life saver and your joints will thank you!
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absolutely agree! Cissus makes a world difference from just fish oil alone. I mean fish oil is still important, it has a host of other benefits besides just joints, but adding cissus to the mix will make a vastly noticeable difference.
 
RickRock13 said:
Oh yeh man. Cissus makes all the difference in the world on your joints man. A real life saver and your joints will thank you!
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SpmnE9zero said:
I typically would just take cod liver oil or something to that effect and that would seem to take care of it, but if cissus is your rec, then cissus it is!
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Cissus is good, I still like mega-dosing fish oil. I do 10-15g on cycle for joints and lipids. The other option is skelatal balm, that's some good stuff for joints that you can apply topically to where the pain is.
 
Milas said:
Cissus is good, I still like mega-dosing fish oil. I do 10-15g on cycle for joints and lipids. The other option is skelatal balm, that's some good stuff for joints that you can apply topically to where the pain is.
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Yeh I do the same. Always 9-12g on cycle for me. Skeletal balm is another option though I haven't tried it yet. I may to give it a try with my next run of Epi-strong ;)
 
Milas said:
Cissus is good, I still like mega-dosing fish oil. I do 10-15g on cycle for joints and lipids. The other option is skelatal balm, that's some good stuff for joints that you can apply topically to where the pain is.
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Good combo together, but I normally just do the fish oil
 
Tad50 said:
Where do we get the epi-strong from? I can't find it on the ntbm website
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You can get Epi-strong here...

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RickRock13 said:
You can get Epi-strong here...

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Ok, thanks. So it's a pre-sale? It's not in stock yet?

Also, what are the chances of hairloss/shedding while taking epi-strong? I've never tried epi before but I've read a lot of good things about it...but I've also read that user can experience hairloss (more so than SD or Halodrol).
 
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