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EP1LOGUE Q&A

TheIronAsylum said:
also my blood pressure was elevated which its never been elevated in my life
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Just looking through your other posts in the blood pressure thread you made. So all those symptoms you mention all began after you started taking Ep1logue? that blood pressure reading is hardly high, not sure what your doc is talking about putting you on medication.

Could it be possible that, these symptoms have manifested over a longer period of time due to life style choices etc?
 
hamdysayed said:
most seems to love it
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Definitely this. I'm still loving it. Just keeps getting better. Sorry to hear about the poor experiences a few are having, but so far I'm very impressed. Endurance is through the roof, strength is noticably climbing, and body composition changes are starting to be noticed. Up 5 pounds (in a caloric surplus, of course), but actually leaner than when I started.
 
Loving Ep1logue so far.

4 weeks in. Zero side effects for me.

Anyone else taking creatine with it?

I'm taking Tr1umph, Endure, Creatine HCL , and Ep1logue together
 
Gamble511 said:
Loving Ep1logue so far.

4 weeks in. Zero side effects for me.

Anyone else taking creatine with it?

I'm taking Tr1umph, Endure, Creatine HCL , and Ep1logue together
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Tr1umph has you covered for creatine, shouldn't need to add extra bulk creatine.
 
horizons said:
It’s definitely decreased mine. I eat a meal and I am full for agessss
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I did some research into your anecdotal experience and there may actually be some merit to it. I believe it is the Vaso-6 potentially causing an acute increase in GLP-1, which in theory should make you feel fuller for longer.

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"GSPE increased the portal levels of active GLP-1 and total ghrelin and decreased the CCK levels, simultaneously with a decrease in gastric emptying. In conclusion, grape-seed proanthocyanidins could be useful as a satiating agent under the conditions defined in this study."

The dosages were pretty high compared to what is in Ep1logue, but we need to remember Vaso-6 only has the highly active polymers in it, so is likely potent in this respect.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
I did some research into your anecdotal experience and there may actually be some merit to it. I believe it is the Vaso-6 potentially causing an acute increase in GLP-1, which in theory should make you feel fuller for longer.

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"GSPE increased the portal levels of active GLP-1 and total ghrelin and decreased the CCK levels, simultaneously with a decrease in gastric emptying. In conclusion, grape-seed proanthocyanidins could be useful as a satiating agent under the conditions defined in this study."

The dosages were pretty high compared to what is in Ep1logue, but we need to remember Vaso-6 only has the highly active polymers in it, so is likely potent in this respect.
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Increasing DPP-4 will help but then it will minimize those good effects it has on Insulin
 
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NoAddedHmones said:
Well yeah that is one of the Amines in the extract, except DMHA is 2-amino-6-methylheptane, which isnt in the extract.
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yes i know but is there a big difference in effect? i said dmha because its easier to understand, i mean it actually is nearly dmha or cant we say that?

eris jarensis ist n-pea, right?
and stim-x is probably dosed with 3mg and is something like rauwolscine; speaking about re1gn, the best pre ever

i thought about the stim matrix, 678mg

300mg caffeine
~300mg n-pea
~75mg „dmha“ (so not the real dmha)
~3mg rauwolscine
 
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iamyourfather said:
yes i know but is there a big difference in effect? i said dmha because its easier to understand, i mean it actually is nearly dmha or cant we say that?

eris jarensis ist n-pea, right?
and stim-x is probably dosed with 3mg and is something like rauwolscine; speaking about re1gn, the best pre ever

i thought about the stim matrix, 678mg

300mg caffeine
~300mg n-pea
~75mg „dmha“ (so not the real dmha)
~3mg rauwolscine
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You can say what ever you want, doesn’t mean its right however. Our extracts and stim blends are prop for a reason. Because it took significant time and testing and cause its the best.
 
Geoffr said:
So ugh.... any positive things about it!? Most don't seem pleased
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ONE person stating he's not pleased (for reasons that definitely need further deepening) and one second person concerned about the posts from the first person.
Most are reporting excellent feedback as you can see.
 
jh1 said:
Definitely this. I'm still loving it. Just keeps getting better. Sorry to hear about the poor experiences a few are having, but so far I'm very impressed. Endurance is through the roof, strength is noticably climbing, and body composition changes are starting to be noticed. Up 5 pounds (in a caloric surplus, of course), but actually leaner than when I started.
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I'm impressed...yet not surprised ;)
 
Geoffr said:
So ugh.... any positive things about it!? Most don't seem pleased
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One of the best supps i've tried. I joined AM in 2005. Only have a few posts, but this supp deserve this words.

In the same level as NHA stack (i thought that it was spiked), ABE, Bioforge, Compound 20 and FD2. The only supps that works for me over 15 years.

Im a huge believer in Ep1logue. Im in my second bottle and three more bottles are in the way .
 
-RONIN- said:
One of the best supps i've tried. I joined AM in 2005. Only have a few posts, but this supp deserve this words.

In the same level as NHA stack (i thought that it was spiked), ABE, Bioforge, Compound 20 and FD2. The only supps that works for me over 15 years.

Im a huge believer in Ep1logue. Im in my second bottle and three more bottles are in the way .
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Great feedback there! I am getting increasingly excited to start my run. I actually took it the past few days at full dose for some additional antioxidant support while trying to avoid a cold that has been hanging around my house. I noticed my t-shirts were tighter around my sleeves and more vascularity, and this was on days that I was not even able to make it into the gym due to work. Maybe I will keep a good thing rolling and make this the official start!
 
xtyler said:
Quite possibly. UroB has some well known aromatase inhibiting properties. A boatload of people are using Ep1logue in PCT, a perfect addition if you ask me. No suppression and anabolic support.
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Sorry to bring up an older post, but this was posted in the midst of my 5 day power outage so I had very limited access to the forum at the time.

Do you have any more info on the AI properties of UroB? I find this to be particularly interesting...

I tried researching it myself but had no luck...
 
Ricky10 said:
Sorry to bring up an older post, but this was posted in the midst of my 5 day power outage so I had very limited access to the forum at the time.

Do you have any more info on the AI properties of UroB? I find this to be particularly interesting...

I tried researching it myself but had no luck...
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In Vitro data from 2010:
"Using a microsomal aromatase assay, we screened the panel of ET-derived compounds and identified six with anti-aromatase activity. Among these, urolithin B (UB) was shown to most effectively inhibit aromatase (an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen hormones) activity in a live-cell assay. Kinetic analysis of UB demonstrated mixed inhibition, suggesting more than one inhibitory mechanism. Proliferation assays also determined that UB significantly inhibited testosterone-induced MCF-7aro cell proliferation."

BTW, when taking into account all its properties (activation of mTORC1, skeletal muscle protein synthesis, hypertrophy in myogenic cells) the possible A.I. effect is the least interesting to me!
 
xtyler said:
In Vitro data from 2010:
"Using a microsomal aromatase assay, we screened the panel of ET-derived compounds and identified six with anti-aromatase activity. Among these, urolithin B (UB) was shown to most effectively inhibit aromatase (an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen hormones) activity in a live-cell assay. Kinetic analysis of UB demonstrated mixed inhibition, suggesting more than one inhibitory mechanism. Proliferation assays also determined that UB significantly inhibited testosterone-induced MCF-7aro cell proliferation."

BTW, when taking into account all its properties (activation of mTORC1, skeletal muscle protein synthesis, hypertrophy in myogenic cells) the possible A.I. effect is the least interesting to me!
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"These compounds(UA and UB) have been shown to inhibit the growth of human prostate"

Which is also VERY interesting.
Maybe even something for people while on AAS/PHs
 
VO2Maxima said:
Color me shocked, I think this is the first time I've ever heard that! Not discounting your experience, of course, people sometimes have odd reactions. Orig1n made me ravenous though, I was able to get in an additional 500kcals or so, beyond what was already making me sick-full.
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Yea I’ve ran it numerous times as I liked it very much.

Within the first few weeks appetite is high, but then after that it decreases. Around month two appetite is shot.
 
Danes said:
"These compounds(UA and UB) have been shown to inhibit the growth of human prostate*"

Which is also VERY interesting.
Maybe even something for people while on AAS/PHs
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Maybe inhibiting DHT? If it had strong AI properties I would be losing all my hair but it’s thick as ****
 
horizons said:
Maybe inhibiting DHT? If it had strong AI properties I would be losing all my hair but it’s thick as ****
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"urolithins down-regulated the mRNA and protein levels of both prostate specific antigen (PSA) and AR in LNCaP cells."

Actually, It may have SERM-like effect since you mentioned AI.
 
xtyler said:
ONE person stating he's not pleased (for reasons that definitely need further deepening) and one second person concerned about the posts from the first person.
Most are reporting excellent feedback as you can see.
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lol...I know a guy who knows a guy.....:stooges:
 
Day 3 for me I haven’t had any major “pumps” working out but I’m f**king sure I have filled out a bit throughout the whole day, look better in the mirror is that possible or is that all in my head like all these pus**ys and their anxiety posts.
 
iamyourfather said:
is here anyone who already finished one bottle? or even two bottles?

im interested in the effects; is everybody experiencing the same effects at the same amount of time after starting the cycle? (strength after week 1/2/3/4/... or endurance after week 1/2/3/... or pumps still as strong in the beginning or do you feel them a little less with every time you use them?)

i think here are way too less people reporting about their effects or is there just nothing to report?
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I finished one bottle...nothing but a little endurance and pumps. Zero physical changes.
 
Billd1982 said:
I finished one bottle...nothing but a little endurance and pumps. Zero physical changes.
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What was your diet like? Bulk, cut, maintain?

Also, one bottle. Outside of when cutting, when changes happen fairly quickly, I don't think there's ANY natural supplement where I see noticeable physical changes in four weeks. Even with hormonals, the changes in four weeks aren't going to be massive. Add the fact that it's taking most people ~3 weeks to see strength improvement, and now we're talking about only 1-2 weeks of training with that increased strength. This is why, unless you're only using it for the acute pump effects, we're really pushing for 8-12 week runs. It's not to try to get you guys to buy more, it's because we really want UroB to work for you as well as it should. Give it some time. :)
 
iamyourfather said:
is here anyone who already finished one bottle? or even two bottles?

im interested in the effects; is everybody experiencing the same effects at the same amount of time after starting the cycle? (strength after week 1/2/3/4/... or endurance after week 1/2/3/... or pumps still as strong in the beginning or do you feel them a little less with every time you use them?)

i think here are way too less people reporting about their effects or is there just nothing to report?
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I just finished my first bottle and I’ll say I should have picked up more than 3

I’ve leaned out quite a bit and pumps are nothing short of spectacular. What’s even more impressive is that they are consistent as well despite being in a slight deficit
 
money0351 said:
I just finished my first bottle and I’ll say I should have picked up more than 3

I’ve leaned out quite a bit and pumps are nothing short of spectacular. What’s even more impressive is that they are consistent as well despite being in a slight deficit
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Excellent. Next time try it on a slight surplus as well :)
 
hamdysayed said:
nah , just wanna see if he is a fat fuk and that's why he is not experiencing any body changes , just wondering that's all.
cos this ain't no magic pill .
joking aside he might be unlucky lol
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Wasn’t knocking or saying the product didn’t work. I understand natural anabolics take time for body comp changes...was only answering the guy who asked if anybody had finished a bottle yet. I still have another bottle left to run so I guess I’ll see how month 2 goes.
 
money0351 said:
I just finished my first bottle and I’ll say I should have picked up more than 3

I’ve leaned out quite a bit and pumps are nothing short of spectacular. What’s even more impressive is that they are consistent as well despite being in a slight deficit
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have you also felt som strength improvement after just 1.5 weeks in?

im on a slight caloric surplus, i think the vascularity has improved - notable the whole day. i take the epi in the morning before my gym session (push/pull/legs, 2 times a week) and feel the pumped up feeling as well the whole f*cking day. i love it. even on my rest day i feel the muscles tightening up.
and i think it really fastens up the metabolism a little bit; i eat more than before my cycle, get stronger and that without getting bigger.

im so excited about the results after the 12 weeks.
 
I have just started mine + 240mg of laxogenin a day... today is day 2 so obviously nothing to report, but i am excited... I am still tossing up if I want to split the dose or just do full doses 30-45 mins before workout (normally around 7-8pm)
 
Sparta12 said:
I have just started mine + 240mg of laxogenin a day... today is day 2 so obviously nothing to report, but i am excited... I am still tossing up if I want to split the dose or just do full doses 30-45 mins before workout (normally around 7-8pm)
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on training days take the full dose pre workout. OL said its more important to have the full dose of UroB during training
 
Gamble511 said:
Ok. How many scoops per day of tr1umph do you recommend? I have been taking one serving. But I am thinking about upping it to two
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One is fine for most. I have heard of people using two, one pre-training and one post-training, and deriving additional benefit, but just one is enough to get you the necessary dosages for all ingredients. I use one, FWIW.
 
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