EC vs. New Geneartion Of Fat Burners

Interesting thread ! I´ve ran alphamine before, good stim feeling, not overwhelming, but appetite suppresion is a LOT better with ephedrine (at least for me).
I would love to try Norcodrene in the following 4 week cut, but unfortunately I´ll have to use the infamous EC stack again. (I´m not US based, so importing supplements takes lots of cash and time getting thru customs here, whilst I pay like 3 dollars for 20 caps ephedrine 15mg sulfate).
I´m not giving up on norcodrene, though. Lot of hype behind it, me want ! :aargh4:
 
there is no need to compare ec to fatburners...just run both!!!!
 
What´s the consensus on Irvingia Gabonensis ?
Seemed like a good compound some time ago (the Cissus + Irvingia study), then I never heard anything more about it.
If it was supposed to be THAT good as an appetite suppressant compound, makes me wonder why I don´t see it on fatburner formulas anymore.
 
heybeavis1 said:
What´s the consensus on Irvingia Gabonensis ?
Seemed like a good compound some time ago (the Cissus + Irvingia study), then I never heard anything more about it.
If it was supposed to be THAT good as an appetite suppressant compound, makes me wonder why I don´t see it on fatburner formulas anymore.
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Very gimmicky and not very effective
 
heybeavis1 said:
And to be effective it would needed to be high-dosed, I suppose ? And that corresponds no-doable in a financial standpoint regarding formulas
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Yes or the extracts used in studies aren't clearly stated for what they extracted for, making it a crapshoot.
 
We need to do some testing to see if it pans out IRL...all of its data is correlative (aka high BAIBA levels are found in people with _______). But we don't know if supplementing BAIBA actually does the trick...yet
 
jasonc06 said:
Im using Norcodrene now..and I really dont feel anything.. compare to Alphamine or EC stack.
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Dosing the same as you would with Alphamine or EC (assuming you would but figured I'd ask just in case)?

That is interesting. 1 or 2 caps?
 
jasonc06 said:
2 caps. I know i should feel same..as EC because its 200mg of caffeine. But who knows.
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How long you been dosing?

Remember, Norcodrene isn't going to hit you energy wise right away like Alphamine. And just because you aren't "feeling" it, doesn't mean it isn't working/being effective.

But still interesting if you aren't noticing any mood enhancing benefits, energy, or appetite suppression.
 
kbayne said:
How long you been dosing?

Remember, Norcodrene isn't going to hit you energy wise right away like Alphamine. And just because you aren't "feeling" it, doesn't mean it isn't working/being effective.

But still interesting if you aren't noticing any mood enhancing benefits, energy, or appetite suppression.
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This. I took norcodrene during training camp (coaching footba) pulling 18 hour days... I never got a kick in the pants type energy feeling... But I was NEVER tired... That is where this shines. And I was never STARVING despite extended fasts due to schedule.
 
Yeah the appetite suppression is the effect I feel most from norco..
I definitely become awake when I take it but no rush of energy like an overload of caffeine.
It's the effects I don't feel that I hope are doing their thing. Lol.
Just started using Norco again I have 4 bottles left so we'll see what happens.
Sucks I can't take the full dose of Norco AND alphamine.. I'm gonna order some alphamine anyways and try not to drink any..
 
chedapalooza said:
This. I took norcodrene during training camp (coaching footba) pulling 18 hour days... I never got a kick in the pants type energy feeling... But I was NEVER tired... That is where this shines. And I was never STARVING despite extended fasts due to schedule.
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What type cardio you do on Eph!
 
HokiePride said:
What type cardio you do on Eph!
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I only do HIIT, I never jog for more than 5 minutes. I used to distance run but that's no conducive to my goals any longer. Nor was it really ever I was just never enlightened to HIIT...

Also sled pulls and pushes, weighted carries, etc
 
chedapalooza said:
I only do HIIT, I never jog for more than 5 minutes. I used to distance run but that's no conducive to my goals any longer. Nor was it really ever I was just never enlightened to HIIT... Also sled pulls and pushes, weighted carries, etc
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I have a confession. So I tried to put on lifting belt a few months back, maybe beginning of summer and tried at the end and my belly was too big. I mean it's already bigger than I liked. It's one I had for a few years that I used in competition. In fact, I used for best dead ever in a video. Well, I've been on ECA FOR TWO WEEKS, three come Wednesday and I'm glad to say it fits with room. Wow, didn't even know it would work but something say hey go get it out the basement and try it now. ECA Coupled with Stimul8 and some days norcodrene has been tithing body fat. I have 9 weeks to go, no strength loss. It on.
 
HokiePride said:
I have a confession. So I tried to put on lifting belt a few months back, maybe beginning of summer and tried at the end and my belly was too big. I mean it's already bigger than I liked. It's one I had for a few years that I used in competition. In fact, I used for best dead ever in a video. Well, I've been on ECA FOR TWO WEEKS, three come Wednesday and I'm glad to say it fits with room. Wow, didn't even know it would work but something say hey go get it out the absent and try it now. ECA Coupled with Stimul8 and some days norcodrene has been tithing body fat. I have 9 weeks to go, no strength loss. It on.
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eca stacked with new generation fatburners is the way to go, imo....might as well get the best from the old and the new!!!
 
thebigt said:
eca stacked with new generation fatburners is the way to go, imo....might as well get the best from the old and the new!!!
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No doubt, that's why I tried it to see what would happen without saying. Didn't want backlash, just results!
 
thebigt said:
eca stacked with new generation fatburners is the way to go, imo....might as well get the best from the old and the new!!!
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Running the infamous DCP 2.0 + Combustion stack (both by BPS) and lemme tell you: this K-I-L-L-S my appetite JUST LIKE ephedrine ! But it´s not a sickening feeling when eating as when I get on ephedrine, it´s more like a heavy but good appetite suppressing without feeling like chit on food.
Makes me think twice about adding ECA since this stack is SO good ! \m/
 
heybeavis1 said:
Running the infamous DCP 2.0 + Combustion stack (both by BPS) and lemme tell you: this K-I-L-L-S my appetite JUST LIKE ephedrine ! But it´s not a sickening feeling when eating as when I get on ephedrine, it´s more like a heavy but good appetite suppressing without feeling like chit on food.
Makes me think twice about adding ECA since this stack is SO good ! \m/
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thanks for the bps love....that stack is way underrated, imo. wish more people would try it and see!!!
 
thebigt said:
thanks for the bps love....that stack is way underrated, imo. wish more people would try it and see!!!
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Really ??? I thought it was similar to the Get Up and Go Stack (OG Oxyelite and OG Alpha T2) "hype-wise". As far as the effects go, I think it´s comparable to the Get Up and Go Stack too, better actually: insane appetitte suppression, fatburning, slight nootropic improvement, energy but not overpowering/jittery, no crashes.. you can´t get all that with ECA only. ECA may be more cost-effective, and if you can get away with jitters, insomnia, crashes, go for it.. I´m very happy with DCP and Combustion formulas, and it definitely translates to the "New era" of fatburners.
Btw, it´s not "love", I just tell the truth, and BPS has been working amazingly so far ! :cheers:
 
heybeavis1 said:
Really ??? I thought it was similar to the Get Up and Go Stack (OG Oxyelite and OG Alpha T2) "hype-wise". As far as the effects go, I think it´s comparable to the Get Up and Go Stack too, better actually: insane appetitte suppression, fatburning, slight nootropic improvement, energy but not overpowering/jittery, no crashes.. you can´t get all that with ECA only. ECA may be more cost-effective, and if you can get away with jitters, insomnia, crashes, go for it.. I´m very happy with DCP and Combustion formulas, and it definitely translates to the "New era" of fatburners.
Btw, it´s not "love", I just tell the truth, and BPS has been working amazingly so far ! :cheers:
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hell yeah!!!
 
chedapalooza said:
Glad it's workin for ya hokie.
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Appreciate it! Believe me, @ 41 with a 2yr and 1yr old (who took his longest walk last night for the first time) I have no problem sleeping. In fact I trained twice yesterday and didn't eat any meals until 830 last night during the NFL GAME: Dolphins vs Jets. I had to force myself to eat. So sleeping is not an issue. It just didn't work in the past. I take two doses 5-6Am fall asleep and second dose at lunch. This is off week from work. Work weeks I work 12HR shifts, so similar doses.
 
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