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I didnt read past the first page, but your engaged and DONT live with her? Arent you supposed to date move in and piss each other off to the max and if shes still there THEN marry her?
 
I didnt read past the first page, but your engaged and DONT live with her? Arent you supposed to date move in and piss each other off to the max and if shes still there THEN marry her?

Best advice yet.
 
No, I take a christian standpoint and dont believe we should move in until marriage. Please don't criticize me for this standpoint but it's both of our beliefs. She's never lived with a guy, and I haven't lived with another woman (that I was dating). Seems old fashioned i know.
 
Glass half full kinda guy, eh? :think:
...just slow to jump to conclusions: things have a way of working out, despite our feelings about how that happens. Things like this are difficult enough without extra baggage - taking them personally never helps.

I *do* try to keep a positive outlook, though. Makes the day-to-day less grinding.
 
No, I take a christian standpoint and dont believe we should move in until marriage. Please don't criticize me for this standpoint but it's both of our beliefs. She's never lived with a guy, and I haven't lived with another woman (that I was dating). Seems old fashioned i know.

Im not criticizing you, but whats going to happen if you end up getting married then 6 months after you guys are at each others throats. 23 years old with a divorce? Come on man your way to young to be getting married. **** you've only been able to legally party for 2 years. Im 23 and I can tell you I sure as hell aint ready for no marriage. And as you can see 2.5years isnt along enough time to "really" get to know someone, as your finding out.

So I guess in conclusion, step back take it easy and enjoy the ride for a few more years, if shes still with you, then go for it. Living with mommy after a divorce after your wife gets 50% aint fun!
 
Yeah, I saw that happen with my father. Guess it's better to just deal with it now then have to deal with it later. I guess we'll just see where I go from here.
 
Im not criticizing you, but whats going to happen if you end up getting married then 6 months after you guys are at each others throats. 23 years old with a divorce? Come on man your way to young to be getting married. **** you've only been able to legally party for 2 years. Im 23 and I can tell you I sure as hell aint ready for no marriage. And as you can see 2.5years isnt along enough time to "really" get to know someone, as your finding out.

So I guess in conclusion, step back take it easy and enjoy the ride for a few more years, if shes still with you, then go for it. Living with mommy after a divorce after your wife gets 50% aint fun!

Who's to say twenty-three is too young, or two-and-a-half years is too short of a time-frame to adequately know somebody? With something so subjective as social relationships, 'objective' standards don't necessarily apply. Relationships have to be judged within their own internal consistency, making my judgments of your relationships and vice versa worthless; I'd agree that most of our age are too irresponsible for that commitment, but it depends on the cats involved.

It's not necessarily being 'ready for marriage', but being 'ready for each other'. I know people whom married after six or seven months, and have been happily married for years. It's all dependent on the patterns that emerge within a relationship.
 
my wife was 19 when we met in may 95, dated in june and she turned 20, married mid august. Still married today, almost 13 years later.... So mullet is right, its all about the individuals.
 
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