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John Bolton Shocks With Viral Admission That He Helped Plan Foreign Coups — Then Rand Paul Chimes In

Former national security adviser John Bolton raised eyebrows Tuesday (July 12) after disclosing that he has helped orchestrate coups d'état.

Speaking with CNN anchor Jake Tapper, Bolton disputed rhetoric that says former President Donald Trump is guilty of orchestrating a coup on Jan. 6.

"It's also a mistake, as some people have said—including on the committee, the commentators—that somehow this was a carefully planned coup d'état aimed at the Constitution," Bolton said. "That's not the way Donald Trump does things. It's rambling from one half-vast idea to another. One plan that falls through and another comes up. That's what he was doing."

When Tapper pushed back and noted that "one doesn't have to be brilliant to attempt a coup," Bolton explained why he disagrees—and he cited firsthand experience, though without disclosing details.

"As somebody who has helped plan coups d'état—not here, but other places—it takes a lot of work. And that's not what [Trump] did. It was just stumbling around from one idea to another," Bolton said.

U.S. Senator Rand Paul responded to Bolton's admission by saying, "Blocking John Bolton from becoming Sec of State was one of my proudest moments!"

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rob112 said:
John Bolton Shocks With Viral Admission That He Helped Plan Foreign Coups — Then Rand Paul Chimes In

Former national security adviser John Bolton raised eyebrows Tuesday (July 12) after disclosing that he has helped orchestrate coups d'état.

Speaking with CNN anchor Jake Tapper, Bolton disputed rhetoric that says former President Donald Trump is guilty of orchestrating a coup on Jan. 6.

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Gotta love how the Dems and the RINOs pretend to be shocked

Our Corrupt CIA has been rigging elections and preparing Coups against other Nations for decades. This is NOTHING new.

Hillary and Obamas admin, took down Libya. Bush staged the Iraq war to take down Saddam Hussein, after 9/11 which had NOTHING to do with 9/11 at all

Nothing at all

And these pricks pretend to be "shocked" and "offended"

These politicians quite honestly can go **** themselves.

No offense to you sir for posting this, Im not upset with you. I hate watching this fake fraud filth, these assholes pretending like first of all January 6th was an insurrection, when we know for fact the FBI, Capitol police, dems and Nancy Pelosi all staged this by design.

And now to act like we haven't rigged other Nations governments.

It's disgraceful. Drama. These people are actors. And bad ones.
 
WesleyInman said:
Gotta love how the Dems and the RINOs pretend to be shocked

Our Corrupt CIA has been rigging elections and preparing Coups against other Nations for decades. This is NOTHING new.

Hillary and Obamas admin, took down Libya. Bush staged the Iraq war to take down Saddam Hussein, after 9/11 which had NOTHING to do with 9/11 at all

Nothing at all

And these pricks pretend to be "shocked" and "offended"

These politicians quite honestly can go **** themselves.

No offense to you sir for posting this, Im not upset with you. I hate watching this fake fraud filth, these assholes pretending like first of all January 6th was an insurrection, when we know for fact the FBI, Capitol police, dems and Nancy Pelosi all staged this by design.

And now to act like we haven't rigged other Nations governments.

It's disgraceful. Drama. These people are actors. And bad ones.
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No offense taken. I only share this stuff because people act like when you say factual things about the uni-party you are a conspiracy theorists. Which is kind of a ludicrous term because powerful people have conspired with each other for centuries.
 
BamBam54 said:
You do realize when they count children, it's anyone under 18. So every young gang-banger in the country ALSO falls into the list of children injured or killed by guns.

And in America, in-ground backyard pools DO require a fence. No one can accidentally stumble in. Yet kids continue to die at greater rate than by gun deaths. All of those drowning deaths could be saved if we banned pools and mandated lawn sprinklers. Famous olympic skier Bodie Miller lost his child in a pool drowning. What kind of a selfish ass are you that you would insist on keeping semi-automatic filtered pools all over the country, when a lawn sprinkler would satisfy cool summer fun and save thousands of kids lives every year????

The fact remains that we have 400 million guns in this country, and they are FAR more often being used to stop psycho killers than being used BY psycho killers.

The problem is that we have too many psycho killers.

Do you think if you magically removed all of the guns that the psycho killers would somehow become sweet innocent members of society feeding pigeons in a park??? Or would they remain psycho killers and use every other conceivable object as a weapon to continue to murder at will??? Knives and hands kill more people every year than assault rifles.

We need to stop the will to kill, not just pretending to hide the most convenient tool at any given moment. The Uvalde school shooter drove to the school. He could have killed just as many children with his truck in the parking lot. So stop with the 'guns are the problem' political bullsh1t. Damaged/deranged people are the problem.

And kids are safer in schools than anywhere else. More kids catch the flu in school and die, than are every killed by guns. You would save more lives wearing sweaters than wearing bullet proof vests.

The media just loves to hype up the gun issue, for political gain. And every islander around the world suddenly thinks they need to chime in on our culture and social issues. Do we tell you how to paddle a canoe???
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They had separate teen and child data categories though, so no I don't think that's quite accurate.

Regardless of the examples you use and the hypotheticals you pose, the rest of the developed world has those answers - limiting firearms reduces firearm deaths.

When you make your counter arguments, why do you never consider that it literally works in every other western country. No country has the issue the US has.

Why is that constantly ignored?

Every other country has mentally unwell people who cannot legally access firearms and that significantly reduces their ability to access them at all.

Every other country has issues with organised crime and street gangs who cannot access firearms legally. Yes they still have them, but in much smaller numbers because they're not readily obtainable to them.

Every other country has some kind of licensing, background check, interview process to weed out as best as possible the most problematic members of society who cannot be trusted.

The result is fewer deaths by firearm.
 
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You are absolutely clueless. I mean the liberal cesspool cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Baltimore, D.C., Detroit) make up about 80% of violent gun crime and crime in general. Guns are NOT the problem. I grew up where sometimes we would hunt in the morning and go to school with a shotgun on the back rack inside of our pick up truck. Nobody ever got shot. We fought with fists. Today's kids are a bunch of whiny azz pussies who grow up with a lack of discipline and respect. They do not have any coping mechanisms. They only care about how many likes they get on social media. It's definately a culture problem. Guns are not the problem. If you take away those cesspool cities then America's gun crime would be on par with most other countries- FACT. The media is teaching kids to be "terrified" of guns. Parents no longer teach their kids how to shoot or hunt. They simply buy them video games, iphones, etc. It's the whole "progressive, liberal, bullshit trying to teach kids to not offend anybody but when they get offended they have no coping mechanisms other than to lash out in a violent manner. Growing up, every single kid was made fun of at some point for something. It tough us to be tough and how to stand up to others. Kids now are so sheltered that they simply can not deal with anything that upsets or offends them. It's pitiful how clueless so many of them are.
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Liberal cities make up the majority of your population, so if you need to eliminate most of the population to make your gun stats work then I'm not sure how that helps your argument at all.

Those cities also make up the majority of your GDP, so yeah if your argument is "if most of the population just vanished we'd be poor rednecks with guns and impregnated cousins" then sure I buy it.
 
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Yeah because the group that hates everyone is still stuck in the 1950s.

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Yeah because the group that hates everyone is still stuck in the 1950s.

Freedom of speech advocates sure hate free speech when it goes against their beliefs
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You are about a twisted liberal quack yourself. Ban Black History? Not even close to the truth- ban transgenders- nope- ban voting- nope- you don't live here and have no fking idea. The GOP hasn't done that nor is it in the plans. The Supreme Court did not ban abortions. Please keep telling Americans about our own country while you don't even live here. I listed 5 cities- Liberal cities do not make up the majority of our population..........rural America is a big fking place with a big population- again you don't have a clue what you are talking about. America has liscensing and background checks. It's a culture problem plain and simple. Rural America is over 80 percent on the land mass with thousand of smaller towns/cities that don't have any gun problems. You probably think the Electoral College is something that needs to go away. You don't live here and again- you only know what you read in the media. You are clueless.
 
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Yeah because the group that hates everyone is still stuck in the 1950s.

Freedom of speech advocates sure hate free speech when it goes against their beliefs

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One thing I can agree for sure about the GOP is that they are far from protecting the freedoms our Founding Fathers preached about back when they established our Republic and wrote the most famous memo to the government which is our Bill of Rights. They have shyt and pizzed all over it for over a century and here we are after pretending to claim they are all about "freedom."

They keep failing to realize that all their big government police state powers they have propped up over the years with the creating/funding of big federal agencies, unconstitutional powers of the Patriot Act, NSA, Homeland Security, supporting socialist policies contributing to government dependency, mass corruption and constant abuse of executive privileged have only contributed to being bit on the arse by those in charge today, but Ive been warning Republicrats the consequences of their policies for decades now but only few listen.
 
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NEW - Cities in Germany set up central warming stations, warming rooms, and "warming islands" due to the potentially impending winter gas emergency.

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I wonder when Germany will have enough. They shut down nuclear plants and stopped trade from their main gas supplier. I don’t think people who support the green cult realize being against nuclear and natural gas will literally destroy cities if implemented.

Reports of them burning coal again…which has the highest CO2 emissions of the three main sources used to power cities. It’s all stupid.
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Corrupt governments and/or globalists are using the guise of climate change as a means to manipulate people and destroy prosperity around the world. Except of course for when it comes to their own lifestyle, and China’s domination.

Is it really worth destroying lives now over the projected impacts of climate change that remain theoretical and very often deemed as a hoax by experts. What is the point of theoretically ramping down our own footprint only to turn around and source everything from other countries that reap all the financial benefits and power as a result?

This climate change **** has to go. I’d rather live a somewhat normal life than make everything infinitely more expensive and difficult at the off chance someone has a theory that actually proves to make a difference. Ironically, that isn’t all that possible to begin with. People aren’t f*cking themselves nearly enough. There needs to be a f*ck yourself revolution.
 
Beau said:
Just to show that I am an unfeeling bastard ...

Does anyone else not give a crap because Brittney Griner is being held in Russia becanse she chose to knowingly and intentionally bring hashish oil into Russia? Although, she also laughably said that she had done so "inadvertently". Yea, right.

Briner brought vape cartridges into Russia, and broke Russian law. She laughably saif she did not intend to break Russian law.

Intention has NOTHING to do with it. She broke the law.

I do not have to agree that the law is just, but I do have to accept it as being the Russian law. Her Attorney said "Considering all the circumstances of the case, taking into account the personality of our client, we believe that the admission of guilt should certainly be taken into account.''

Taking into account the personality of her client? What an ass-hat this Attorney must be.

She broke the law, period. I have to assume that she knew the law - but - it not, she was responsible to know the law regardless (and regarrless of her personality).

And, now - of course - the race card is being played, with comparisons being made to how differently she is being treated to Tom Brady.

Personal responsibility anyone? Nope - just another victim.

Of her own decision t break the law.
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Until “minorities” stop using the race card, there will always be racism. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Personally, I feel that black Americans are the most racially motivated members of our society.

Speaking of which, has anyone else noted an abundance of black and brown people inundating previously white neighborhoods? I feel like a minority most places I used to go.
 
Ricky10 said:
Until “minorities” stop using the race card, there will always be racism. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Personally, I feel that black Americans are the most racially motivated members of our society.

Speaking of which, has anyone else noted an abundance of black and brown people inundating previously white neighborhoods? I feel like a minority most places I used to go.
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I feel the exact same way. The race card is used on everything these days and it's exhausting. Brit. Griner broke the law-period!! I worked in Brazil for 8 years and you can be damn sure I knew their drug laws and sure as hell didn't break them. She deserves every bit of punishment she gets. And you are right about climate change. It is 99% bullshiiiit! Follow the $$$$- it's all about the $$$. Is the earth getting warmer? Yep- it's a natural cycle- and until China and India do anything about their own pollution, NOTHING we do will change mother nature's course!
 
WesleyInman said:
Imagine you voted for this 🤡🤡🤡

Imagine you think he's doing a stellar job 🤡🤡🤡

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It’s completely bizarre for me to come across people who think he is doing better than Trump, when literally every facet of this country has gotten infinitely worse. I literally know only one person who thinks this way in real life.

The majority have been in Yahoo news comments, and YouTube comments. Some of these people also actually believe Trump was responsible for the “insurrection” that didn’t happen, as well as all the fabricated mini storylines being portrayed by the “committee.”

This country certainly is divided. There is the brainless and easily brainwashed population, and then there are people who look upon this currently installed government and just say what the f*ck is this??
 
Pant-Shitter of the US (POTUS) and his crack-head son (both kid-rapers) really are pieces of work.
Imagine being a braindead libtard?? LOL...
 
Jiigzz said:
They had separate teen and child data categories though, so no I don't think that's quite accurate.

Regardless of the examples you use and the hypotheticals you pose, the rest of the developed world has those answers - limiting firearms reduces firearm deaths.

When you make your counter arguments, why do you never consider that it literally works in every other western country. No country has the issue the US has.

Why is that constantly ignored?

Every other country has mentally unwell people who cannot legally access firearms and that significantly reduces their ability to access them at all.

Every other country has issues with organised crime and street gangs who cannot access firearms legally. Yes they still have them, but in much smaller numbers because they're not readily obtainable to them.

Every other country has some kind of licensing, background check, interview process to weed out as best as possible the most problematic members of society who cannot be trusted.

The result is fewer deaths by firearm.
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Aside from what has already been well said in the Tunaking reply, showing how inaccurate you are and how little you actually know.... you are ignoring my point that the number of psycho killers here is the problem, not the number of guns.

We simply have too many psycho killers.... the majority of whom are Democrats living in Democrat cities supported by Democrat funding and kept out of prison by Democrat prosecutors. Some 70% of gun deaths are by repeat offenders. We HAD these killers safely locked up and liberals let them out !!

We happen to have more 'gun deaths' because we have more guns. The same way there would be more wooden shoe deaths in Holland, or more pygmy blow dart deaths in New Zealand. Places with only knives will have higher knife deaths per capita.

Psycho killers will use whatever they can get their hands on locally. And even in places with extremely limited guns, psycho killers still manage to get them. If you banned every gun, and had the same number of psycho killers, you would have nearly the same number of deaths by any other available means.

While you might say that guns make it easier to kill more people faster that both ignores the lethality of cars and bombs.... AND ignores the hundreds of thousands more deaths that are prevented by legal guns used as intended.

In America, if you don't solve the psycho killer problem first, you will still have a mass murder problem because in a free society you can't protect everyone from every conceivable danger. Knives, cars, fertilizer bombs, etc. The dangerous implements are endless when you have a lawless drugged up society that doesn't value life anymore.

And how would you even suggest you remove 400 million guns from a population with 400 million guns who doesn't want to to play along?? Pass a new [unconstitutional] law?? If you could pass a law to remove the guns, why not pass a law to make murder illegal. Wouldn't that work the same way???
 
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Teenagers just shot in Philadelphia. More children for Jiiigz' gun injury list.
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Is the problem the overall number of guns in America where 99.99% are not used to hurt anyone.... or the number of scumbag criminals in Democrat run cities who illegally obtain guns and illegally shoot innocent children?

The problem is that Demcrats making the laws and enforcing the laws are NOT going to do so in any meaningful way if it means locking up their voter base.
 
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Teenagers just shot in Philadelphia. More children for Jiiigz' gun injury list.
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Is the problem the overall number of guns in America where 99.99% are not used to hurt anyone.... or the number of scumbag criminals in Democrat run cities who illegally obtain guns and illegally shoot innocent children?

The problem is that Demcrats making the laws and enforcing the laws are NOT going to do so in any meaningful way if it means locking up their voter base.
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I used to have a lot of love for Philly and loved going there, was in bands that played shows all over the city when I was younger…plus the history of the city and now I don’t care if I never have to go back. Driving through recently for their children’s hospital just makes me sad looking at it.

My buddy is a cop there and said when he arrests someone for breaking the law he feels like he is on trial more than the defendant. One of the first soros targets for DA.
 
For all, anyone find all the party talks on race kinda ridiculous? The vast majority of people who don’t like leftist agendas have a problem with upper class white people. Somehow that is racist because they appointed themselves the representatives of communities I question if they ever visited. They constantly say things that would take just a tone change to be literally racist as ****. Next time you see a woke headline see how hard would it be to make that extremely racist. It’s very interesting.
 
I lived in Philly in early 2000.

What a total piece of **** that city is and the corrupt government is ALMOST as bad as beetlejuice and Chicago. That little transgender POS needs to be brought to GITMO and that is the reality.

Democrats and LIberals are the dumbest, absolutely, dumbest human beings to have ever lived.

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What is the difference between the international community and the "international community" in the understanding of the Western media?

The Chinese Foreign Ministry reminded.

@Sputnik

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Example of what I’m talking about. You are part of the international community as long as you get in line with countries that are predominantly white.

For the record I wish we treated race like hair color. It just seems ridiculous and honestly the thing I care least about in a person is what they look like and who they ****.
 
Ricky10 said:
Corrupt governments and/or globalists are using the guise of climate change as a means to manipulate people and destroy prosperity around the world. Except of course for when it comes to their own lifestyle, and China’s domination.

Is it really worth destroying lives now over the projected impacts of climate change that remain theoretical and very often deemed as a hoax by experts. What is the point of theoretically ramping down our own footprint only to turn around and source everything from other countries that reap all the financial benefits and power as a result?

This climate change **** has to go. I’d rather live a somewhat normal life than make everything infinitely more expensive and difficult at the off chance someone has a theory that actually proves to make a difference. Ironically, that isn’t all that possible to begin with. People aren’t f*cking themselves nearly enough. There needs to be a f*ck yourself revolution.
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If the climate change "man made" they arent stopping anything, they never will nor do most in power truly give a crap.

Im all for common sense regulation to clean up pollution, but you dont solve a "crisis" by creating another crisis.

Resources are all best used to prepare and adapt for potential changes, potential changes which are all up for debate, our Country should be putting money into a piggy bank instead and saved for a rainy day so when we have more facts we can afford to make some changes from living to moving agriculture around, but politicks would rather overspend their way to getting in just enough votes so their salary checks keep depositing in the mail and their lobby money keeps their pockets full.
 
Ricky10 said:
Until “minorities” stop using the race card, there will always be racism. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Personally, I feel that black Americans are the most racially motivated members of our society.

Speaking of which, has anyone else noted an abundance of black and brown people inundating previously white neighborhoods? I feel like a minority most places I used to go.
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I think white people will be the minority race soon, last I heard and you can check white people make up 60% of the population,

But really all that doesnt matter, first off Im Sicilian Im already technically a minority, more minority than black people and I obviously have black genetics in my blood do to our history and my language is an endangered species, but thats me play "that game" truly it doesnt matter what race or color my or anyone else's skin or race is other than those who wish to partake in culture but that doesnt represent everybody associated with that culture. We are all Americans and until we unite as "Americans" division will continue to move on.

What they are doing is promoting division, violence and chaos through racial and cultural victimhood and class warfare instead of leading people to be victorious and being victorious all comes down to the self and the content of their character with determination for that self to succeed.
 
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I think white people will be the minority race soon, last I heard and you can check white people make up 60% of the population,

But really all that doesnt matter, first off Im Sicilian Im already technically a minority, more minority than black people and I obviously have black genetics in my blood do to our history and my language is an endangered species, but thats me play "that game" truly it doesnt matter what race or color my or anyone else's skin or race is other than those who wish to partake in culture but that doesnt represent everybody associated with that culture. We are all Americans and until we unite as "Americans" division will continue to move on.

What they are doing is promoting division, violence and chaos through racial and cultural victimhood and class warfare instead of leading people to be victorious and being victorious all comes down to the self and the content of their character with determination.
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Ever seen the movie True Romance? The scene on Sicilians would never be made today but it was pretty epic. Movie was amazing.
 
BamBam54 said:
Aside from what has already been well said in the Tunaking reply, showing how inaccurate you are and how little you actually know.... you are ignoring my point that the number of psycho killers here is the problem, not the number of guns.

We simply have too many psycho killers.... the majority of whom are Democrats living in Democrat cities supported by Democrat funding and kept out of prison by Democrat prosecutors. Some 70% of gun deaths are by repeat offenders. We HAD these killers safely locked up and liberals let them out !!

We happen to have more 'gun deaths' because we have more guns. The same way there would be more wooden shoe deaths in Holland, or more pygmy blow dart deaths in New Zealand. Places with only knives will have higher knife deaths per capita.

Psycho killers will use whatever they can get their hands on locally. And even in places with extremely limited guns, psycho killers still manage to get them. If you banned every gun, and had the same number of psycho killers, you would have nearly the same number of deaths by any other available means.

While you might say that guns make it easier to kill more people faster that both ignores the lethality of cars and bombs.... AND ignores the hundreds of thousands more deaths that are prevented by legal guns used as intended.

In America, if you don't solve the psycho killer problem first, you will still have a mass murder problem because in a free society you can't protect everyone from every conceivable danger. Knives, cars, fertilizer bombs, etc. The dangerous implements are endless when you have a lawless drugged up society that doesn't value life anymore.

And how would you even suggest you remove 400 million guns from a population with 400 million guns who doesn't want to to play along?? Pass a new [unconstitutional] law?? If you could pass a law to remove the guns, why not pass a law to make murder illegal. Wouldn't that work the same way???
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Wow, far better than I can ever put it, well said!
 
rob112 said:
I used to have a lot of love for Philly and loved going there, was in bands that played shows all over the city when I was younger…plus the history of the city and now I don’t care if I never have to go back. Driving through recently for their children’s hospital just makes me sad looking at it.

My buddy is a cop there and said when he arrests someone for breaking the law he feels like he is on trial more than the defendant. One of the first soros targets for DA.
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Starbucks closing Center City Philadelphia store, 15 others due to safety concerns

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Anyone wanna move to Phili? I heard its a nice place run by liberals, you cant be liberals running your city they make the sky shine and flowers bloom.

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Anyone wanna move to Phili? I heard its a nice place run by liberals, you cant be liberals running your city they make the sky shine and flowers bloom.

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Phili before libtards ran the entire city into a complete dump. Times were hard but at least people got by back then, and the coffee shop remained open.

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Anyone wanna move to Phili? I heard its a nice place run by liberals, you cant be liberals running your city they make the sky shine and flowers bloom.

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^^^This is what happens when the "Putin Tax" becomes US policy!

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That’s the funny thing. Liberal cities have the most gun crime, pollution, wealth disparities, etc and yet somehow people think they should run the country because of their expertise in these very areas. It makes no sense. It should be common sense. For example if you had a friend that was terrible with money you would not ask him for financial advise.
 
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That’s the funny thing. Liberal cities have the most gun crime, pollution, wealth disparities, etc and yet somehow people think they should run the country because of their expertise in these very areas. It makes no sense. It should be common sense. For example if you had a friend that was terrible with money you would not ask him for financial advise.
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These are the dumbest human beings to have ever lived. A Biden voter and supporter is beyond help.

These fools have disgraced our Nation, and they are happy so long as Orange man has no mean tweets, even though the USA was doing immaculately under Donald J. Trump.

These people have no business voting, let alone thinking for anyone else, not even themselves.

Notice the Peanut Gallery is quiet as hell. These people won't identify that they voted for Biden and are traitors and communists to this Country.

They think Men can get pregnant. They think Pantifa and BLM burning down cities are "peaceful protests" and warranted.

They want to defund the police. They want pedophilia under the disguse of LGBTQRSTUVWXY and Z.

These are the dumbest F**** on Earth.

They literally have no ability to rationalize, think or otherwise function. They listen to what they are told. They believe anything the media and celebrities tell them. These are walking talking ZOMBIES.
 
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That’s the funny thing. Liberal cities have the most gun crime, pollution, wealth disparities, etc and yet somehow people think they should run the country because of their expertise in these very areas. It makes no sense. It should be common sense. For example if you had a friend that was terrible with money you would not ask him for financial advise.
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Whats really funny is that the most irresponsible people I know tend to be the most willing to step forward and guide you with financial advice. And its never anything to do what made them so screwed up in the first place and sharing mistakes.
 
Dems and Liberals are the dumbest human beings on Earth.

That includes Dems who are AM members.

Yeah, we are talking about you fools.

REPORT: House Judiciary Committee Dems Vote Unanimously to BLOCK MEASURE That Would Have Increased Penalties For Child Sex Traffickers...
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Just a reminder, NYC is not only wanting to take your guns away but they are also making sure your prepare for nuclear blasts.

Bought to you by the former office and head of R.I.P. Barry Jennings, the last man out of Building 7 who declared the building had bombs set off all day...but thats anohter story.

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LMFAO The 50s are back!!!!! But this time we all have to suffer from the national Putin Tax so we die broke before we are nuked into oblivion!!!!

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Well they did predictive programming for a Nuke hitting NYC

Its in movies and even on our money. They certainly prepared us well in advance for 9/11

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Tunaking14 said:
You are about a twisted liberal quack yourself. Ban Black History? Not even close to the truth- ban transgenders- nope- ban voting- nope- you don't live here and have no fking idea. The GOP hasn't done that nor is it in the plans. The Supreme Court did not ban abortions. Please keep telling Americans about our own country while you don't even live here. I listed 5 cities- Liberal cities do not make up the majority of our population..........rural America is a big fking place with a big population- again you don't have a clue what you are talking about. America has liscensing and background checks. It's a culture problem plain and simple. Rural America is over 80 percent on the land mass with thousand of smaller towns/cities that don't have any gun problems. You probably think the Electoral College is something that needs to go away. You don't live here and again- you only know what you read in the media. You are clueless.
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It doesn't matter how BIG rural areas are (hence the word rural), it matters how densely populated those places ares. I've attached 2 density maps, and it's no surprised that very liberal centered areas are the most densely populated. Not all, but many.

Look at a map of Australia - 80+% of it is basically uninhabited. Land mass doesn't equal big populations.

Most GOP areas are vast, lowly dense areas in comparison to the major cities. Hence why the electoral college exists. If it didn't, the GOP would have lost every election in the last 30 years which was the last time the GOP won the popular vote.

Abortion is banned in a lot of places - hence the recent uproar. I didn't say the Supreme Court banned it, so not sure where you got that from AND conservative states have banned a lot of books in schools.
 

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Aside from what has already been well said in the Tunaking reply, showing how inaccurate you are and how little you actually know.... you are ignoring my point that the number of psycho killers here is the problem, not the number of guns.

We simply have too many psycho killers.... the majority of whom are Democrats living in Democrat cities supported by Democrat funding and kept out of prison by Democrat prosecutors. Some 70% of gun deaths are by repeat offenders. We HAD these killers safely locked up and liberals let them out !!

We happen to have more 'gun deaths' because we have more guns. The same way there would be more wooden shoe deaths in Holland, or more pygmy blow dart deaths in New Zealand. Places with only knives will have higher knife deaths per capita.

Psycho killers will use whatever they can get their hands on locally. And even in places with extremely limited guns, psycho killers still manage to get them. If you banned every gun, and had the same number of psycho killers, you would have nearly the same number of deaths by any other available means.

While you might say that guns make it easier to kill more people faster that both ignores the lethality of cars and bombs.... AND ignores the hundreds of thousands more deaths that are prevented by legal guns used as intended.

In America, if you don't solve the psycho killer problem first, you will still have a mass murder problem because in a free society you can't protect everyone from every conceivable danger. Knives, cars, fertilizer bombs, etc. The dangerous implements are endless when you have a lawless drugged up society that doesn't value life anymore.

And how would you even suggest you remove 400 million guns from a population with 400 million guns who doesn't want to to play along?? Pass a new [unconstitutional] law?? If you could pass a law to remove the guns, why not pass a law to make murder illegal. Wouldn't that work the same way???
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How many car bombs go off in other western countries? How many bombs AT ALL?

Can you point me to the countries which have the same issue with car bombs (or any bombs) as the US has with Mass Shootings? Are there western countries out there with 300+ bombings in a single year??

Or 300+ mass stabbings?

Do other countries have even half or a quarter of that?

Where are you pulling your information from, or are you using "it would happen regardless" type scenarios that have no evidential grounding in what happens in the real world?

Every other country has psychos. Literally all of them. But still almost none have people shooting up schools every other day.

I'm not even saying to giveup you guns, only that it should be harder for psychos to get them in the first place but somehow that's the most controversial idea.

That's your problem, you're unwilling to implement safety measures at the cost of more children's lives in the future. Kinda sad really.
 
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Jiigzz said:
How many car bombs go off in other western countries? How many bombs AT ALL?

Can you point me to the countries which have the same issue with car bombs (or any bombs) as the US has with Mass Shootings? Are there western countries out there with 300+ bombings in a single year??

Or 300+ mass stabbings?

Do other countries have even half or a quarter of that?

Where are you pulling your information from, or are you using "it would happen regardless" type scenarios that have no evidential grounding in what happens in the real world?

Every other country has psychos. Literally all of them. But still almost none have people shooting up schools every other day.

I'm not even saying to giveup you guns, only that it should be harder for psychos to get them in the first place but somehow that's the most controversial idea.

That's your problem, you're unwilling to implement safety measures at the cost of more children's lives in the future. Kinda sad really.
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We have school shootings every other day?

We actually have red flag laws here in NY, but our Buffalo Supermarket shooter still passed his background checks when he shouldnt have.

And its not controversial at all to be resistant to gun "safety" measures, here in NY they just went to the extremes by oppressing law abiding civilians from going just about everywhere in New York State with a carry permit and they did absolutely nothing to address crime. And we got here with a little of this, a little of that, the 2013 "Safe Act" was pretty hardcore that was supposed to stop mass shootings and all they do is harass good people.

I actually did a presentation last night at my gun club to keep the seniors, grandpas and grandmas all up to date with the new laws they just passed, Bill S.51001 and the disgust and anger they had that starting September they can no longer really go anywhere with a legal concealed carry permit to defend themselves. Also, they have to have more extensive requirements than ever taking and paying alot of money for 16 hour courses every 3 years for what? And comply hand over their social media accounts to be snooped on or fraud, for what?

So as you can see, government here especially liberal democrat government (and some republicrats who are liberals in disguise) is trash and they can stick their gun laws up their arse because they have no interest in combating crime, preventing mass shootings, all they care about is their reactionary nonesense feelgood laws that oppress good people and lift up criminals and terrorists so they keep their deranged voter base they send government benefits to in order to stay in power.
 
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Jiigzz said:
Or 300+ mass stabbings?
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And no, we dont have 300+ mass shootings either, liberals have redefined what a mass shooting is in order to fit their lying narrative.

First off, "mass shootings" account for less than 1% of gun deaths in the US. Suicides account for most gun deaths in the US, so if people want at it and dont want help, no business of my consequence. And gun suicides only account of half of all of suicides in the US. Here, many people are a sick, over prescribed on meds without addressing root issues, and our culture is deteriorating. Liberal social policies have also caused many socio-economic issues including extreme green energy policies that are making things worse for both mental health and contributing to suicide. There are about 50,000 suicides every year here.

School shootings, which is your concern would only be solved (and never completely) by changing culture, both in society as we have a new breed of sick sissy asses without girlfriends who commit public suicides with these shootings and also changing the gun culture and making America pro-gun again, and not conditioning people to be helpless pansy asses scared of guns and being utterly helpless when shyt hits the fan in so called safe "gun free" school zones. And it also helps when police show up they do their job instead of hiding in the back of the hall way worrying about germs and getting busy with the hand sanitizer dispenser (Uvalde.)

Most other mass shootings occur with gang violence, and criminals who obtain illegal guns on the black market which is impossible to get rid of here. It would help if we actually enforced crime and punished criminals, but here in NY we had bail reform where criminals are let go for nothing back onto the street only to get caught over and over again, but if a law abiding gun owner defends his life, they make the criminal the victim and the government does all in their power to destroy the lives of good people.

Ok end rant for now.


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ax1 said:
We have school shootings every other day?

We actually have red flag laws here in NY, but our Buffalo Supermarket shooter still passed his background checks when he shouldnt have.

And its not controversial at all to be resistant to gun "safety" measures, here in NY they just went to the extremes by oppressing law abiding civilians from going just about everywhere in New York State with a carry permit and they did absolutely nothing to address crime. And we got here with a little of this, a little of that, the 2013 "Safe Act" was pretty hardcore that was supposed to stop mass shootings and all they do is harass good people.

I actually did a presentation last night at my gun club to keep the seniors, grandpas and grandmas all up to date with the new laws they just passed, Bill S.51001 and the disgust and anger they had that starting September they can no longer really go anywhere with a legal concealed carry permit to defend themselves.

So as you can see, government here especially liberal democrat government (and some republicrats who are liberals in disguise) is trash and they can stick their gun laws up their arse because they have no interest in combating crime, preventing mass shootings, all they care about is their reactionary nonesense feelgood laws that oppress good people and lift up criminals and terrorists so they keep their deranged voter base they send government benefits to in order to stay in power.
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I get that 100%. Im not talking about removing gun carry laws or restricting the types of firearms because that's not the problem here, the problem is WHO can access those firearms.

Not everyone should have the right to bear arms, because even at some point people decided that not allowing prisoners to carry firearms was the right idea.
 
Jiigzz said:
I get that 100%. Im not talking about removing gun carry laws or restricting the types of firearms because that's not the problem here, the problem is WHO can access those firearms.

Not everyone should have the right to bear arms, because even at some point people decided that not allowing prisoners to carry firearms was the right idea.
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The issue being if you allow the govt to take an inch, they will abuse it and take a mile

The corrupt Biden admin is already attacking the Constitution. So unfortuntately you cannot give these bastards even 1/4 of an inch.

They will claim "peace and safety" and they will attempt to destroy the Constitution and take away sane legal gun ownership.

It is a lose lose situation, simply bc the US govt, is infested with globalists and cannot be trusted. These are not decent law abiding politicians. These are corrupt scumbags who should have been in GITMO or hung by now

And that is a fact.
 
Jiigzz said:
I get that 100%. Im not talking about removing gun carry laws or restricting the types of firearms because that's not the problem here, the problem is WHO can access those firearms.

Not everyone should have the right to bear arms, because even at some point people decided that not allowing prisoners to carry firearms was the right idea.
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If we have background checks that also checks juvenile records, limits universal databases on gun owners and defines what fails a background check (violent offenders) then that makes common sense. Hell I dont want it to be easier for criminals to get guns, and have police focus on stuff like blackmarket gun smuggling rather than the war on drugs.

We gotta be careful with mental health laws, we already have vets her in NY who turned their guns on themselves because seeking mental health for possible PTSD issues would bring police to their doorsteps for gun confiscation if they do so. And here in NY they do. Our Red Flag laws desensitizes getting help, as getting help here equates to having your rights stripped away from you without proper due process. They take them and assume your guilty until you can spend 10s of thousands in court with money people dont have to prove they are not a threat to society. Its really a scary system to tell you the truth and making things worse.

But yeah its not like I dont wanna be pro-active and do absolutely nothing, just that our government refuses to work in favor of good people so its really up to us in society to make things work out, and the best defense is more good people with guns in more places especially schools.
 
ax1 said:
And no, we dont have 300+ mass shootings either, liberals have redefined what a mass shooting is in order to fit their lying narrative.

First off, "mass shootings" account for less than 1% of gun deaths in the US. Suicides account for most gun deaths in the US, so if people want at it and dont want help, no business of my consequence. And gun suicides only account of half of all of suicides in the US. Here, many people are a sick, over prescribed on meds without addressing root issues, and our culture is deteriorating. Liberal social policies have also caused many socio-economic issues including extreme green energy policies that are making things worse for both mental health and contributing to suicide. There are about 50,000 suicides every year here.

School shootings, which is your concern would only be solved (and never completely) by changing culture, both in society as we have a new breed of sick sissy asses without girlfriends who commit public suicides with these shootings and also changing the gun culture and making America pro-gun again, and not conditioning people to be helpless pansy asses scared of guns and being utterly helpless when shyt hits the fan in so called safe "gun free" school zones. And it also helps when police show up they do their job instead of hiding in the back of the hall way worrying about germs and getting busy with the hand sanitizer dispenser (Uvalde.)

Most other mass shootings occur with gang violence, and criminals who obtain illegal guns on the black market which is impossible to get rid of here. It would help if we actually enforced crime and punished criminals, but here in NY we had bail reform where criminals are let go for nothing back onto the street only to get caught over and over again, but if a law abiding gun owner defends his life, they make the criminal the victim and the government does all in their power to destroy the lives of good people.

Ok end rant for now.


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4 people hit with gunfire in a single shooting is a pretty robust definition of mass shooting though lol.

4 people is ALOT in one incident.

No kidding the culture is a problem, it's the "online" culture but that isn't going to change. It's only going to get worse. You can't legislate your way back to the 1950's, because the world doesn't work that way anymore.

The online culture (both left and right winged) is worse than ever, and it's not just liberals (regardless of what your news source spits at you).

A lot of "incels" are conservative. And most school shooters are from conservative homes
 
Jiigzz said:
I get that 100%. Im not talking about removing gun carry laws or restricting the types of firearms because that's not the problem here, the problem is WHO can access those firearms.

Not everyone should have the right to bear arms, because even at some point people decided that not allowing prisoners to carry firearms was the right idea.
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And by the way, I still respect your side because I do know you genuinely care, the world sure can be a sad place.
 
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