Donald Trump running for president

Aleksandar37 said:
It's a sad day when I have to agree with something Rick Santorum says. Otto Warmbier was a US citizen and Trump sold him out to try and make another deal that he failed on.
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Nobody should have died under that bullcrap regardless if the top leadership knew or not. That dude, what he did was wrong (taking that risk) and there are consequences that can happen in foreign countries regardless of your motive, but that doesnt exempt Kim Jong-BigBum from simply allowing this to happen. He should have had his little quick time in court and so they can do whatever political thing they want, take good care of him behind the scenes and then deported him along with a single and only 1 last chance warning never to come back.
 
ax1 said:
Nobody should have died under that bullcrap regardless if the top leadership knew or not. That dude, what he did was wrong (taking that risk) and there are consequences that can happen in foreign countries regardless of your motive, but that doesnt exempt Kim Jong-BigBum from simply allowing this to happen. He should have had his little quick time in court and so they can do whatever political thing they want, take good care of him behind the scenes and then deported him along with a single and only 1 last chance warning never to come back.
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I agree. If you're breaking laws in a foreign country, especially one like North Korea, you're taking a huge risk. Hell, if visiting a foreign country where you can be jailed with little proof of even doing anything, you're taking a huge risk. All that said, this is an ongoing thing with Trump taking leaders accused of horrible crimes at their word over the intelligence gathered by his own country, only to be proven wrong later.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
I agree. If you're breaking laws in a foreign country, especially one like North Korea, you're taking a huge risk. Hell, if visiting a foreign country where you can be jailed with little proof of even doing anything, you're taking a huge risk. All that said, this is an ongoing thing with Trump taking leaders accused of horrible crimes at their word over the intelligence gathered by his own country, only to be proven wrong later.
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that was sad, how could anyone not feel for what otto and his family went through?
 
ok...at the risk of being called sexist-women drivers suck the big one!!!


with that said...lets discuss india/Pakistan.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
lol which part?
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well india/Pakistan have been 'rivals' for a long time, kinda scary they both have nukes...I was listening to a talk show on the radio before bed last night [ground zero] and the guy said even a limited nuke war over there would cause fallout to be over the U.S. in 72 hours...not to mention the instant death of possibly millions of people.
 
thebigt said:
well india/Pakistan have been 'rivals' for a long time, kinda scary they both have nukes...I was listening to a talk show on the radio before bed last night [ground zero] and the guy said even a limited nuke war over there would cause fallout to be over the U.S. in 72 hours...not to mention the instant death of possibly millions of people.
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It all depends on how limited it was and the weather. If small enough, fallout probably wouldn't affect us all that much for the same reason all those scare tactics about dirty bombs were crap: radiation is only really a problem when concentrated. I just don't think it would be limited, especially from Pakistan's side.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
It all depends on how limited it was and the weather. If small enough, fallout probably wouldn't affect us all that much for the same reason all those scare tactics about dirty bombs were crap: radiation is only really a problem when concentrated. I just don't think it would be limited, especially from Pakistan's side.
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I heard things got really hot yesterday, but not much reported by mainstream media?
 
thebigt said:
I heard things got really hot yesterday, but not much reported by mainstream media?
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There have been short stories about the air strike and the pilot that got shot down, but it's the same with any other region that has fighting go on for so long. Most US news agencies don't write huge headlines every time Israel and Palestine shoot at each other. CNN and Fox won't usually report on their television shows, but it's on their websites if you click on world or international news. Otherwise it's endless stories about Trump.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
There have been short stories about the air strike and the pilot that got shot down, but it's the same with any other region that has fighting go on for so long. Most US news agencies don't write huge headlines every time Israel and Palestine shoot at each other. CNN and Fox won't usually report on their television shows, but it's on their websites if you click on world or international news. Otherwise it's endless stories about Trump.
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endless stories about trump...you aint kidding, after awhile it just gets old.
 
here is another one...trump official lynne patton who was a long time friend of cohen says the REAL reason for Cohen's betrayal was meuller threatened his wife with 30 years...rather this is true or not who knows?
 
thebigt said:
here is another one...trump official lynne patton who was a long time friend of cohen says the REAL reason for Cohen's betrayal was meuller threatened his wife with 30 years...rather this is true or not who knows?
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I follow this stuff, but its just all silly nonesense to me. I could care less if Dump was paying hookers to shut up or Putin was his BFF. Let him play with his bone and lets focus on policies.
 
pence-'all options are on the table'


military intervention in Venezuela possible?
 
ax1 said:
I follow this stuff, but its just all silly nonesense to me. I could care less if Dump was paying hookers to shut up or Putin was his BFF. Let him play with his bone and lets focus on policies.
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Venezuela?
n korea?
india/Pakistan?

occasio-cortez???
 
thebigt said:
Venezuela?
n korea?
india/Pakistan?

occasio-cortez???
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I was responding to the Cohen and Dump post.

As far as North Korea goes....I have to give credit to Fox for giving Dump and KimJong-BigBum extensive live coverage of the event. Meanwhile I was flipping over to CiaNN and Darn Lemon was spending his whole show trying to prove Dump was a racist homophobe based on what happened during the Cohen testimony. CiaNN has reached new lows.

Venezuala=if their main crop was broccoli the country wouldnt even make the news. People are questioning if we will invade, I say we already been there for quite a while now setting up guerilla military fighters for the overthrow and take over of oil fields.

“Big difference” if “US oil companies invest in & produce oil in Venezuela”

-John Bolton sometime last month

Same story we all heard before.

India and Pakistan? Nutting new there, nutting to C.
 
ax1 said:
I was responding to the Cohen and Dump post.

As far as North Korea goes....I have to give credit to Fox for giving Dump and KimJong-BigBum extensive live coverage of the event. Meanwhile I was flipping over to CiaNN and Darn Lemon was spending his whole show trying to prove Dump was a racist homophobe based on what happened during the Cohen testimony. CiaNN has reached new lows.

Venezuala=if their main crop was broccoli the country wouldnt even make the news. People are questioning if we will invade, I say we already been there for quite a while now setting up guerilla military fighters for the overthrow and take over of oil fields.

“Big difference” if “US oil companies invest in & produce oil in Venezuela”

-John Bolton sometime last month

Same story we all heard before.

India and Pakistan? Nutting new there, nutting to C.
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Venezuela is in bad shape-should deport occasio-cortez there!!!

I hope it is the same old song and dance with india/Pakistan, actually I pray it is!!!

I remember trump saying that Obama told him the most pressing issue on the table was n.korea...even though no agreement was reached things have calmed down quite a bit from what it was.
 
thebigt said:
Venezuela is in bad shape-should deport occasio-cortez there!!!

I hope it is the same old song and dance with india/Pakistan, actually I pray it is!!!

I remember trump saying that Obama told him the most pressing issue on the table was n.korea...even though no agreement was reached things have calmed down quite a bit from what it was.
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I can see all the Bullshyt in Venezuala and why its as bad as it is. Their economy is being completely obliterated because of the sanctions which ultimately oppresses the people. Then we go send the people cookie crumbs, ROFL! Its all part of the game, same old playbook unfortunately people there dont study politics and military strategy enough to know it and if your starving you could care less anyways you just want your cookie crumbs at any cost.

From a strategic standpoint of Prez Murduror, you DO NOT let aid in under any circumstances during a time of war. Watch enough movies and you will understand why.

The most pressing issue under the table during the Obama years was Obama, wut that nut lying for?
 
ax1 said:
I can see all the Bullshyt in Venezuala and why its as bad as it is. Their economy is being completely obliterated because of the sanctions which ultimately oppresses the people. They we go send the people cookie crumbs, ROFL! Its all part of the game, same old playbook unfortunately people there dont study politics and military strategy enough to know it and if your starving you could care less anyways you just want your cookie crumbs at any cost.

From a strategic standpoint of Prez Murduror, you DO NOT let aid in under any circumstances during a time of war. Watch enough movies and you will understand why.

The most pressing issue under the table during the Obama years was Obama, wut that nut lying for?
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ax1 man, if you were ever to see a shrink he/she would go bonkers, lol.

and I mean that in a good way:fing02:
 
ax1 said:
Their economy is being completely obliterated because of the sanctions which ultimately oppresses the people. Then we go send the people cookie crumbs, ROFL!
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Oh, Venezuela! I thought you were talking about farmers across the midwest US!!
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Oh, Venezuela! I thought you were talking about farmers across the midwest US!!
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trump will take care of farmers-he has too!!! rural voters are necessary to his survival in politics, not only his but the entire republican party.


china was smart to target farmers!!!
 
thebigt said:
trump will take care of farmers-he has too!!! rural voters are necessary to his survival in politics, not only his but the entire republican party.


china was smart to target farmers!!!
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In all fairness politicians don’t have to actually help people, just convince them that they will when they’re running. This applies to both parties and every demographic of course.
 
thebigt said:
I hope it is the same old song and dance with india/Pakistan, actually I pray it is!!!
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Ive always been more concerned with India vs. China, that would be a disaster and they have had gone to war before. They always have border disputes and I bet you never heard of Arunachel Pradesh which at the moment is officially India territory but China considers it theirs as Southern Tibet.
 
thebigt said:
trump will take care of farmers-he has too!!! rural voters are necessary to his survival in politics, not only his but the entire republican party.


china was smart to target farmers!!!
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Right, just like he was going to fix the VAs. Funny how he doesn't mention that anymore. He's already tried what he usually does: throwing money at a problem, but farmers don't want to work that way. And it's not just farmers either. Some fishing has gotten screwed over too. Trump and the Republicans weren't thinking things through at all. Like I've said before, the tactics that he knows from his private life doesn't work in government.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Right, just like he was going to fix the VAs. Funny how he doesn't mention that anymore. He's already tried what he usually does: throwing money at a problem, but farmers don't want to work that way. And it's not just farmers either. Some fishing has gotten screwed over too. Trump and the Republicans weren't thinking things through at all. Like I've said before, the tactics that he knows from his private life doesn't work in government.
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from personal experience the VA has improved since trump took office-still room for improvement, hell yes!!!


I think trump underestimated how clever china is, they targeted his voter base. I hope that the china trade war thing gets worked out and china starts buying U.S. agriculture soon. I don't know much about the fishing?
 
ax1 said:
Ive always been more concerned with India vs. China, that would be a disaster and they have had gone to war before. They always have border disputes and I bet you never heard of Arunachel Pradesh which at the moment is officially India territory but China considers it theirs as Southern Tibet.
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you are right, china has a long term goal and is on a path to success, no reason for them to do something stupid to mess it up.

you would win that bet, you are much more up to speed with what is happening with china than I am.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
In all fairness politicians don’t have to actually help people, just convince them that they will when they’re running. This applies to both parties and every demographic of course.
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well said...sad but true.
 
thebigt said:
you are right, china has a long term goal and is on a path to success, no reason for them to do something stupid to mess it up.

you would win that bet, you are much more up to speed with what is happening with china than I am.
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The takeover of Taiwan over the past year has gotten so intense that the Prez of Taiwan is calling for help and warning the world of China.

Its barely getting any coverage at all. People should know about this. I know the US has been having some skirmishes with the Chinese Military both on land and on sea.

Some passenger plane from Australia heading to China was told to go back just for acknowledging Taiwan the other day, its crazy.
 
ax1 said:
The takeover of Taiwan over the past year has gotten so intense that the Prez of Taiwan is calling for help and warning the world of China.

Its barely getting any coverage at all. People should know about this. I know the US has been having some skirmishes with the Chinese Military both on land and on sea.

Some passenger plane from Australia heading to China was told to go back just for acknowledging Taiwan the other day, its crazy.
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the Chinese are very calculating, they are playing chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers...
 
Aleksandar37 said:
They're part of the India/Pakistan equation as well and the US tariffs against them have forced them even more into it.
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i see trump finding reasons [excuses] to back off on tariffs soon....hopefully he will realize he is in over his head trying to outmaneuver the Chinese...
 
thebigt said:
I don't know much about the fishing?
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Alaskan fishers sell a lot of seafood to China, who processes it and sends it back here to be sold. China isn't going to buy from those fishers if it now would cost more when sending it back. The Trump administration tried to make some exceptions, but then ended up helping the Russians. Pollock was one of the exceptions made, but Alaska doesn't export a lot of pollock to China like they do other fish. Russia does though and because of another stupid rule, can call it Alaskan pollock when they sell it. So now the US fishers are getting screwed, while Russia gets a loophole to sell their product (that is processed in China) cheaper in the US.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Alaskan fishers sell a lot of seafood to China, who processes it and sends it back here to be sold. China isn't going to buy from those fishers if it now would cost more when sending it back. The Trump administration tried to make some exceptions, but then ended up helping the Russians. Pollock was one of the exceptions made, but Alaska doesn't export a lot of pollock to China like they do other fish. Russia does though and because of another stupid rule, can call it Alaskan pollock when they sell it. So now the US fishers are getting screwed, while Russia gets a loophole to sell their product (that is processed in China) cheaper in the US.
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that sucks, I didn't know this.


every action has a reaction...Chinese are masters at this game, they've been playing head games with the Japanese for centuries...and the british also.

even though they are fiction I got a feel for some of the history of china reading Clavell's tai-pan and noble house...I read those while on long deployments on ship.
 
LOL at Cortez, she is All Bore’s twin Invalid Link Removed
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she can throw the shyt but looks like it's gonna come back and stick to her.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Why was Queens having a St Patrick's Day parade already? That anti-American holiday isn't until the 17th!
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Just a guess, but Manhatten has a big one, and probably the biggest in all of the state on the 17th so poor little queens wanted little more attention for a day.
 
ax1 said:
Just a guess, but Manhatten has a big one, and probably the biggest in all of the state on the 17th so poor little queens wanted little more attention for a day.
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Yeah, Chicago has two as well, but they usually are only separated by a week, although both are the same weekend this year. It just seemed way early even if there are multiple ones.
 
i'm having a hard time understanding this Antifa thing...a bunch of white guys hating on other white guys because they are white???
 
looks like trump and china will have a summit end of march to negotiate end of some tariffs/sanctions...

trump has no choice politically but to protect agriculture, imo.
 
thebigt said:
i'm having a hard time understanding this Antifa thing...a bunch of white guys hating on other white guys because they are white???
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Where are you getting that from? lmao Race has nothing to do with Antifa. It stands for anti-fascist. It started in the 20s after Mussolini's government. They have always been there, but got more active in the US as a response to Trump. However, black bloc protesters (the people that wear masks and all black) who have always held violent protests have also infiltrated the group and that is who Trump and right wing people call out as Antifa.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Where are you getting that from? lmao Race has nothing to do with Antifa. It stands for anti-fascist. It started in the 20s after Mussolini's government. They have always been there, but got more active in the US as a response to Trump. However, black bloc protesters (the people that wear masks and all black) who have always held violent protests have also infiltrated the group and that is who Trump and right wing people call out as Antifa.
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wasn't it in seatle where those white thugs were stopping whites and threatening them/blocking streets?...maybe that is the official version but in the age of cell phone cameras there are many videos of white on white harassment. weren't those thugs harassing trump administration officials in restaurants Antifa?
 
thebigt said:
wasn't it in seatle where those white thugs were stopping whites and threatening them/blocking streets?...maybe that is the official version but in the age of cell phone cameras there are many videos of white on white harassment. weren't those thugs harassing trump administration officials in restaurants Antifa?
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I dunno how big Antifa group is, I dont like them at all and what they stand for. But, as usual, with large groups comes different fruits.

Governments historically infiltrate groups, and opposition groups including those withing the group (sorta like civil war) fight for domination and infiltrate themselves and this can happen on multiple fronts. People have different agendas and ideas.

Those "Antifa" people harassing MAGA people no matter who they are or where they came from are peaces of turd thats for sure.

Other than that I have no freaking clue whats going on anymore.
As far as the 20s go, that was a long time ago. Im worried about who they are today, lol
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Where are you getting that from? lmao Race has nothing to do with Antifa. It stands for anti-fascist. It started in the 20s after Mussolini's government. They have always been there, but got more active in the US as a response to Trump. However, black bloc protesters (the people that wear masks and all black) who have always held violent protests have also infiltrated the group and that is who Trump and right wing people call out as Antifa.
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I never even heard of of Antifa during the Obama years. I mean I get it, Dump is a fascist but Obama also was fascist on superdrol laced with crack and other various exotic amphetamines plus he was a mass murderer. I just dont get what these people were thinking or why they werent heard when I needed them the most.

Thats why I cant get down with these people and most other current active anti-Dump groups.
 
ax1 said:
I never even heard of of Antifa during the Obama years. I mean I get it, Dump is a fascist but Obama also was fascist on superdrol laced with crack and other various exotic amphetamines plus he was a mass murderer. I just dont get what these people were thinking or why they werent heard when I needed them the most.

Thats why I cant get down with these people and most other current active anti-Dump groups.
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the anti-trumpers accuse trump of being hateful...I think they better clean their mirrors.

I can't remember a republican member of congress talking about Obama supporters the way Maxine waters[and many others] talk about trump supporters...i'm not even talking about trump himself, they are sticking with the deplorable label for nearly half of this country.
 
thebigt said:
wasn't it in seatle where those white thugs were stopping whites and threatening them/blocking streets?...maybe that is the official version but in the age of cell phone cameras there are many videos of white on white harassment. weren't those thugs harassing trump administration officials in restaurants Antifa?
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It's Seattle man. There are protests all the time, with May Day being the worst. I have no doubt there is Antifa here, but you also have the Proud Boys which are violent Trump supporters. Just because people are out protesting Trump though doesn't make them Antifa. They're also not against violence. I'm not a supporter, but when they call out these alt-right ****s who like to talk all tough, but then cry like a bitch when smacked, it does make me smile.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
It's Seattle man. There are protests all the time, with May Day being the worst. I have no doubt there is Antifa here, but you also have the Proud Boys which are violent Trump supporters. Just because people are out protesting Trump though doesn't make them Antifa. They're also not against violence. I'm not a supporter, but when they call out these alt-right ****s who like to talk all tough, but then cry like a bitch when smacked, it does make me smile.
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I remember them trying to block the gates of Ft. Lewis before our deployment, and moving when we kept driving the Stykers through the gates. And qe got spit on, and called baby killers on our return. Like it was Vietnam all over again.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I remember them trying to block the gates of Ft. Lewis before our deployment, and moving when we kept driving the Stykers through the gates. And qe got spit on, and called baby killers on our return. Like it was Vietnam all over again.
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I've only been here less than a year so far and like it, but it's a really weird mix of people and most of my views would probably be considered far right to them. There are a lot of people that just protest to protest.
 
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