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ax1 said:
For what? Buying cheap oil from the ISIS rebels they helped Obama and Hitlery create who gave consistant stand down orders not to blow up because the driver just needs a job?

Hey whatever happened to Dump blowing up the oils fields cutting off the main ISIS money supply? Remember that one? When is that gonna happen? Seems like it got swept into obsoletion.
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He was going to "take the oil", though, right?

I think he was congratulating him because Ergodan congratulated him, honestly.

It's interesting though, because it seems that Erdogan and Turkey would be anti-Russian, right?

All kinds of mixed signals going on, IMO.

Although the cruise missile launches would fit with pivoting towards an anti-Russian stance as well.
 
Misfit28 said:
He was going to "take the oil", though, right?

I think he was congratulating him because Ergodan congratulated him, honestly.

It's interesting though, because it seems that Erdogan and Turkey would be anti-Russian, right?

All kinds of mixed signals going on, IMO.

Although the cruise missile launches would fit with pivoting towards an anti-Russian stance as well.
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They probably congratulate each other for mastering The Art of Duping the Public.
 
Misfit28 said:
He was going to "take the oil", though, right?

I think he was congratulating him because Ergodan congratulated him, honestly.

It's interesting though, because it seems that Erdogan and Turkey would be anti-Russian, right?

All kinds of mixed signals going on, IMO.

Although the cruise missile launches would fit with pivoting towards an anti-Russian stance as well.
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this is totally confusing. one minute ergodan is getting cozy with the Russians, then ergodan is sending signals of becoming an Islamic state...in my eyes the two are not compatible????

I think the one sure thing is that ergodan cannot be trusted, no matter what side he publicly claims to be on.
 
jameschoi said:
Democrat, Jon Ossoff wins the Republican seat in Georgia held since 1979. Trump, you gone in 2020. See Ya Cheeto.
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I see how that works....during the time of Obama he lost some 194389 seats in the house and Senate and the dems were due to be doomed in the executive, but Georgia loses a seat during Dumps reign and Dump is a goner in 4 years, yeeaaahhhhh!!!!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
A lot of people do.

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lesson 1 is?

polls are not accurate....people in my age group just don't do online polling or surveys at the rate of the youngsters---and my age group is the reason trump won!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
A lot of people do.

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Those results are less than surprising, considering the approval or disapproval is clearly based on political and ideological lines. Again, keep dreaming. He won after polls said for 18 months that Hillary was the savior of the country.
 
youngandfree said:
Those results are less than surprising, considering the approval or disapproval is clearly based on political and ideological lines. Again, keep dreaming. He won after polls said for 18 months that Hillary was the savior of the country.
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Once again, you seem to lack basic reading comprehension. Did you see where even there ideological lines are shrinking?

Face it, Trump has really bad ratings, hasn't accomplished half of what he promised in the first 100 days, and can't even help pass legislation with his own party in power.

Believe me, this Presidency will be terrible!!

Btw, did you hear about Ivanka getting two patents for her clothing line in China right after Trump met with Xi Jinping?

Coincidence? I think not.

He will go down as the most corrupt president in history, IMO.

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Misfit28 said:
Once again, you seen to lack basic reading comprehension. Did you see where even there ideological lines are shrinking?

Face it, Trump has really bad ratings, hasn't accomplished half of what he promised in the first 100 days, and can't even help pass legislation with his own party in power.

Believe me, this Presidency will be terrible!!

Btw, did you hear about Ivanka getting two patents for her clothing line in China right after Trump met with Xi Jinping?

Coincidence? I think not.

He will go down as the most corrupt president in history, IMO.

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How are the ideological lines shrinking exactly? All the left has talked about for 2 years is how Trump is a racist. That's why the majority of non whites hate him and say they disapprove. That's clearly an ideological narrative pushed by the democrats.
 
youngandfree said:
How are the ideological lines shrinking exactly? All the left has talked about for 2 years is how Trump is a racist. That's why the majority of non whites hate him and say they disapprove. That's clearly an ideological narrative pushed by the democrats.
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Read the survey. I'm not going to explain it all to you.
 
Misfit28 said:
Read the survey. I'm not going to explain it all to you.
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Help me Im lazy this morning....I saw a couple of charts but I wanna see the percentage of where the votes took place at where because that makes all the difference in the world.

Other than that I cant sit here right now and argue with you that he is losing at least some popularity because if I voted for him Id be as mad as a legless Ethiopian watching a doughnut roll down a hill.
 
Well off to drop off my slavery tax, maybe if I didnt waste so much time in here I would have gotten done by yesterday.

I guess the private un-Federal Reserve's IRS armed militant terrosists can collect their interest penalty and hand it over to the military contractors to help finance a bomb of love and they can drop it off a drone of compassion onto a nursery in Syria. Since there was a "suspected" terrorist at the nursery, people dont need to see all the dead babies cause yah know, just collateral damage blah blah blah Money well spent thats all.

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Once again, Americans have to hand over their earnings to the biggest government in the history of the world. It's been 104 years since the 16th Amendment was ratified. Ron Paul makes the case for getting rid of this albatross on today's Myth-Busters!

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"Stop Trump" is the extent of the campaign for a no name Democrat that nobody cares about. The election was diluted amongst 18 people, and this no name is the savior and a referendum against President Trump. Again I say, keep dreaming.

Furthermore, the no name had nearly $10 Million spent on tv ads. The Republican spent $75,000. All the non Democrat votes consolidated to 1 candidate, the republican, and the demo still lose.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
No doubt, but a lot can happen between now and the election. Voters seem to have very selective memories lol
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absolutely...and when faced with the alternative of a left wing democrat, republicans and even some moderate democrats will go with the republican--I think trump proved this!!!
 
thebigt said:
absolutely...and when faced with the alternative of a left wing democrat, republicans and even some moderate democrats will go with the republican--I think trump proved this!!!
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Can you imagine how much further dogshyt this country would be by now if Hitlery was president?
 
ax1 said:
Can you imagine how much further dogshyt this country would be by now if Hitlery was president?
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no...I don't even want to think about it!!!

say what you will of trump, Hillary would have been much worse...:Flush:
 
youngandfree said:
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"Stop Trump" is the extent of the campaign for a no name Democrat that nobody cares about. The election was diluted amongst 18 people, and this no name is the savior and a referendum against President Trump. Again I say, keep dreaming.

Furthermore, the no name had nearly $10 Million spent on tv ads. The Republican spent $75,000. All the non Democrat votes consolidated to 1 candidate, the republican, and the demo still lose.
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Yet he almost got 50% of the vote, despite being a "no name" in a field of 18.
 
Misfit28 said:
Yet he almost got 50% of the vote, despite being a "no name" in a field of 18.
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So on June 20, he'll get 48%, and the other 52% that voted against him will do so again. And he will lose, and you and the rest of the libs have your Trump hate bias dashed once again.
 
I don't see how ANYONE could even think they know the outcome of the next Presidential election, especially today. Didn't we learn our lesson just a few months ago about forgone conclusions?
 
youngandfree said:
The last 2 elections didn't go the way you thought they would. And as posted before, how many thousands of seats, from Congress down to the local level, have the democrats lost in the last 9 years?
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My cousins son who is a far left liberal (meaning higher intelligence) democrat just won class president for our towns high school....you kkk racist gun clinging tin foil hat Dump supporters are finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
Your point?

We'll see is all I said. Are you projecting?
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Projecting what? You thought President Trump was a shoe in to lose, and you jumped on the narrative of the no name in GA going to win and be the referendum on President Trump.

It's a question, how many elections have democrats lost in the last 9 years?
1030 Congressional seats, governorships, and state house seats. Not even counting local elections.
 
Again, what are we even arguing about? I remember hearing about how the Republican Party was on its deathbed several months ago. Now? Both sides spin the narrative how they see fit, and, frankly, I don't see either party going anywhere any time soon.
 
No progress will ever happen as long as the globalist are in positions of government power and leftists control public education, Hollywood, and MSM.

They control the military and the culture, they have the US by the balls.
 
thebigt said:
absolutely...and when faced with the alternative of a left wing democrat, republicans and even some moderate democrats will go with the republican--I think trump proved this!!!
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Trump just proved that the voters react to whoever is in charge and go to opposite extremes like a pendulum. Bush got elected as a response to Clinton. Obama as a reaction to Bush. And Trump as a reaction to Obama. If you hated Obama (and I know you do lol) wait until you see whoever comes next.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Trump just proved that the voters react to whoever is in charge and go to opposite extremes like a pendulum. Bush got elected as a response to Clinton. Obama as a reaction to Bush. And Trump as a reaction to Obama. If you hated Obama (and I know you do lol) wait until you see whoever comes next.
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But what if we didn't like Bush or Obama, and think they're a lot more similar than most people realize.
 
CJNator said:
No progress will ever happen as long as the globalist are in positions of government power and leftists control public education, Hollywood, and MSM.

They control the military and the culture, they have the US by the balls.
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That's quite ironic, considering the progressives are the globalists.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
But what if we didn't like Bush or Obama, and think they're a lot more similar than most people realize.
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I'm beginning to see that, and it's why I no longer identify as a Democrat. I seriously doubt I will ever again vote for a mainstream party candidate.

I'm also beginning to see how detrimental intervention by the US can be. The only issue I have is not intervening when there are human rights abuses and/or humanitarian aid. That part is difficult to wrap my head around, but I'm trying.

As far as Obama goes, I did vote for him twice. I didn't agree with his intervention via drone strikes, or other things that he did during his two terms.

Even though I get a bit pissed off in this thread at times, it does help me to think about my own political views in a more critical light. It's good to have open debate about things, even if the views aren't even close to my own views.

Btw, the stuff going on in colleges right now is shameful. I don't like discriminatory speech, but it is still protected by the First Amendment. People are free to say whatever they want. That being said, the First Amendment doesn't really protect against blowback from what you say.

In the end, I'm glad to broaden my views in this thread :)
 
youngandfree said:
That's quite ironic, considering the progressives are the globalists.
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Keep in mind alot of conservative politicians (such as the Bush family) are also globalists....the key is to look for their affiliations such as the Bilderberg group, CFR and others. Im hoping its far less significant with the newer generation crop coming up from the Republicrat/Demican monopoly, and it appears to be taking place I just hope they dont sell out as usual.
 
ax1 said:
Keep in mind alot of conservative politicians (such as the Bush family) are also globalists....the key is to look for their affiliations such as the Bilderberg group, CFR and others. Im hoping its far less significant with the newer generation crop coming up from the Republicrat/Demican monopoly, and it appears to be taking place I just hope they dont sell out as usual.
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It's because they are progressives in a "conservative" suit. RINO. Republican In Name Only
 
Misfit28 said:
I'm beginning to see that, and it's why I no longer identify as a Democrat. I seriously doubt I will ever again vote for a mainstream party candidate.

I'm also beginning to see how detrimental intervention by the US can be. The only issue I have is not intervening when there are human rights abuses and/or humanitarian aid. That part is difficult to wrap my head around, but I'm trying.

As far as Obama goes, I did vote for him twice. I didn't agree with his intervention via drone strikes, or other things that he did during his two terms.

Even though I get a bit pissed off in this thread at times, it does help me to think about my own political views in a more critical light. It's good to have open debate about things, even if the views aren't even close to my own views.

Btw, the stuff going on in colleges right now is shameful. I don't like discriminatory speech, but it is still protected by the First Amendment. People are free to say whatever they want. That being said, the First Amendment doesn't really protect against blowback from what you say.

In the end, I'm glad to broaden my views in this thread :)
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To me I can't tell the difference between the parties most times. They may say different things, but seem to always do the same things in their own selfish interest and not in the interest of their voters, but their own personal interests.

As for colleges, I don't know if this is anything new really. Even the way people talk about millenials. People turn 18 and go off to college and are exposed to new freedoms and ideas and they have a naive view of the world. They think they know everything, but hasn't that always been the way? And protests, especially at Berkeley, is nothing new either. Protests are protected by the first amendment, but there are still consequences and I don't understand why people don't get that.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
To me I can't tell the difference between the parties most times. They may say different things, but seem to always do the same things in their own selfish interest and not in the interest of their voters, but their own personal interests.

As for colleges, I don't know if this is anything new really. Even the way people talk about millenials. People turn 18 and go off to college and are exposed to new freedoms and ideas and they have a naive view of the world. They think they know everything, but hasn't that always been the way? And protests, especially at Berkeley, is nothing new either. Protests are protected by the first amendment, but there are still consequences and I don't understand why people don't get that.
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I havent looked deep into Berkeley but from what I hear makes these protests different is the "birthplace" of the free speech movement is now where free speech dies.
 
ax1 said:
I havent looked deep into Berkeley but from what I hear makes these protests different is the "birthplace" of the free speech movement is now where free speech dies.
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They were the epitome of Vietnam activism. Free speech is still there, but it depends on which view you have. They're obviously mostly liberal, so if a douchebag like Milo comes to speak, of course they are going to protest. And now Ann Coulter is trying to speak there. Those people know there will be push back so they organize a talk simply for the free press.
 
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