Donald Trump running for president
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thebigt
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you think things couldn't get worse, lol.
ax1
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Maybe I listen to Ron Paul because I found someone who I can correlate with my own political beliefs.
Thanks for your little story I feel all grown up now.
ax1
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School of Austrian Economics has no relation to the country of Austria and its current political scheme. Its a political system developed by Austrians that you apparently know nothing about.
ax1
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Yes, I will do anything Ron Paul says, he is my mentor, my father figure, I love him. Nobody especially you can get in between our relationship.
ax1
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blah blah blah blah,
You wanna debate policies thats fine, but I have more important things to do right now such as watching basketball playoffs than getting caught up with your ad-hominem garbage tonight.
ax1
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Why you ask me? Im serious. What should I care if 0, 1 or 100 countries follow the School of Austrian Economics? Why should that be relevent to me?
I have no need to follow what country does what...Im going to support what I believe in what is best for my country and my country only.
ax1
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Its just politics, people will never all agree on it. I can go on google and post my own little pieces like your all night but whats the point. No offense but I dont see this going anywhere between the both of us.
If you ACTUALLY know me and been here enough I have preached flexibility and compromise when it comes to policy making, so its not even going to feel entirely natural to me to hardcore defend Austrian Economics and my economic vision is purely my own.
CJNator
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The fact that no country has ever used Austrian economics isn't an argument against it.
Jiigzz
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Not at all, but it's also not an argument for it either.
If some countries do better following a very different method to Austrian Economics, then it isn't the answer, either.
ax1
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I used to be very socialist and on the liberal side until Obama took office believe it or not. After 2008 when Obama flip flopped on all his campaign promises (I voted for him) I started looking into how government operates and chose that freedom and power of the people would be the best option in the long term.
I totally feel we can operate in a income tax free society (which is the most demeaning of all taxes) and even have social protections but would prefer to keep that on only a state level with the Federal Government only providing oversight and Constitutional protections. There would still be taxes such as sales tax, property tac, etc...to generate revenue, have more of a toll system for infrastructure use. There are alot of good ideas we can try.
Aleksandar37
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Well finally finished my annual federal income slavery bill. Time to get lubed up for the rest of this year!
CJNator
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There's no different method of Austrian economics, just different schools of thought which see the government's role in the economy necessary for certain things. Yes a countries can do well with one school of thought but it doesn't mean that it can't do better decentralized into another.
Cultural values plays a huge role in the economy, some societies aren't ready for a free market system and some totally rejected it in all forms.
Government is failing all around the world when it comes to preserving the freedoms of individuals in society. This is pushing individuals to ethic nationalist populism in the EU and civic nationalist populism in the US. Now I have no issues with people wanting to preserve their culture and ethnicity but people fail to realize that it won't play out in their favor in the long run. That propertarianism is in their interests not government.
ax1
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I can probably guess that the majority of Austrians have no knoweledge of the School of Austrian Economics, its probably not in the government school ciriculums. Such in a more extreme example, in China the government makes efforts (especially during the the era of President Xi) to demolish any democratic or "western" type of influence that gets popular within the Chinese people themselves and the government working full steam ahead to promote "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" in schools and all aspects of society.
ax1
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Keep in mind, life isnt all about finance,, finance, and finance. There are other qualities in life people also seek that arent exactly financially related.
Hittin the light, have a good night
Jiigzz
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Amen to that. Plus, I don't actually disagree with Ron Paul per se, I just like discussionKeep in mind, life isnt all about finance,, finance, and finance. There are other qualities in life people also seek that arent exactly financially related.
Hittin the light, have a good night
ax1
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Well, speaking of Ron Paul, its Monday again and my weekly tradition here is to post Dr. Paul's weekly address.
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Audit the Fed recently took a step closer to becoming law, when it was favorably reported by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. This means the House could vote on the bill at any time. The bill passed by voice vote without any objections, although Fed defenders did launch hysterical attacks on the bill during the debate as well as at a hearing on the bill the previous week.
One representative claimed that auditing the Fed would result in rising interest rates, a stock market crash, a decline in the dollar’s value, and a complete loss of confidence in the US economy. Those who understand economics know that all of this is actually what awaits America unless we change our monetary policy. Passing the audit bill is the vital first step in that process, since an audit can provide Congress a road map to changing the fiat currency system.
Another charge leveled by the Fed’s defenders is that subjecting the Fed to an audit would make the Fed subject to political pressure. There are two problems with this argument. First, nothing in the audit bill gives Congress or the president any new authority to interfere in the Federal Reserve’s operations. Second, and most importantly, the Federal Reserve has a long history of giving in to presidential pressure for an "accommodative" monetary policy.
The most notorious example of Fed chairmen tailoring monetary policy to fit the demands of a president is Nixon-era Federal Reserve Chair Arthur Burns. Burns and Nixon may be an extreme example — after all no other president was caught on tape joking with the Fed chair about Fed independence, but every president has tried to influence the Fed with varying degrees of success. For instance, Lyndon Johnson summoned the Fed chair to the White House to berate him for not tailoring monetary policy to support Johnson’s guns and butter policies.
Federal Reserve chairmen have also used their power to shape presidential economic policy. According to Maestro, Bob Woodward's biography of Alan Greenspan, Bill Clinton once told Al Gore that Greenspan was a “man we can deal with,” while Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen claimed the Clinton administration and Greenspan’s Fed had a “gentleman’s agreement” regarding the Fed’s support for the administration’s economic policies.
The Federal Reserve has also worked to influence the legislative branch. In the 1970s, the Fed organized a campaign by major banks and financial institutions to defeat a prior audit bill. The banks and other institutions who worked to keep the Fed’s operations a secret are not only under the Fed’s regulatory jurisdiction, but are some of the major beneficiaries of the current monetary system.
There can be no doubt that, as the audit bill advances through the legislative process, the Fed and its allies will ramp up both public and behind-the-scenes efforts to kill the bill. Can anyone dismiss the possibility that Janet Yellen will attempt to "persuade" Donald Trump to drop his support for Audit the Fed in exchange for an “accommodative” monetary policy that supports the administration’s proposed spending on overseas militarism and domestic infrastructure?
While auditing the Fed is supported by the vast majority of Americans, it is opposed by powerful members of the financial elite and the deep state. Therefore, those of us seeking to change our national monetary policy must redouble our efforts to force Congress to put America on a path to liberty, peace, and prosperity by auditing, then ending, the Fed.
Copyright © 2017 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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Written by Invalid Link Removed
Monday April 17, 2017
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Audit the Fed recently took a step closer to becoming law, when it was favorably reported by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. This means the House could vote on the bill at any time. The bill passed by voice vote without any objections, although Fed defenders did launch hysterical attacks on the bill during the debate as well as at a hearing on the bill the previous week.
One representative claimed that auditing the Fed would result in rising interest rates, a stock market crash, a decline in the dollar’s value, and a complete loss of confidence in the US economy. Those who understand economics know that all of this is actually what awaits America unless we change our monetary policy. Passing the audit bill is the vital first step in that process, since an audit can provide Congress a road map to changing the fiat currency system.
Another charge leveled by the Fed’s defenders is that subjecting the Fed to an audit would make the Fed subject to political pressure. There are two problems with this argument. First, nothing in the audit bill gives Congress or the president any new authority to interfere in the Federal Reserve’s operations. Second, and most importantly, the Federal Reserve has a long history of giving in to presidential pressure for an "accommodative" monetary policy.
The most notorious example of Fed chairmen tailoring monetary policy to fit the demands of a president is Nixon-era Federal Reserve Chair Arthur Burns. Burns and Nixon may be an extreme example — after all no other president was caught on tape joking with the Fed chair about Fed independence, but every president has tried to influence the Fed with varying degrees of success. For instance, Lyndon Johnson summoned the Fed chair to the White House to berate him for not tailoring monetary policy to support Johnson’s guns and butter policies.
Federal Reserve chairmen have also used their power to shape presidential economic policy. According to Maestro, Bob Woodward's biography of Alan Greenspan, Bill Clinton once told Al Gore that Greenspan was a “man we can deal with,” while Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen claimed the Clinton administration and Greenspan’s Fed had a “gentleman’s agreement” regarding the Fed’s support for the administration’s economic policies.
The Federal Reserve has also worked to influence the legislative branch. In the 1970s, the Fed organized a campaign by major banks and financial institutions to defeat a prior audit bill. The banks and other institutions who worked to keep the Fed’s operations a secret are not only under the Fed’s regulatory jurisdiction, but are some of the major beneficiaries of the current monetary system.
There can be no doubt that, as the audit bill advances through the legislative process, the Fed and its allies will ramp up both public and behind-the-scenes efforts to kill the bill. Can anyone dismiss the possibility that Janet Yellen will attempt to "persuade" Donald Trump to drop his support for Audit the Fed in exchange for an “accommodative” monetary policy that supports the administration’s proposed spending on overseas militarism and domestic infrastructure?
While auditing the Fed is supported by the vast majority of Americans, it is opposed by powerful members of the financial elite and the deep state. Therefore, those of us seeking to change our national monetary policy must redouble our efforts to force Congress to put America on a path to liberty, peace, and prosperity by auditing, then ending, the Fed.
Copyright © 2017 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
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Aleksandar37
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Looks like maybe we need to check Trump's birth certificate since he hates America
Looks like maybe we need to check Trump's birth certificate since he hates America
ax1
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The all time great empire is making a big comeback very very soon!
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hairygrandpa
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ax1
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So a prominent professor from MIT is coming out and stating the Syrian chemical weapon attack was staged and it was done from the ground.
They need to block those internetz at MIT, the professors are finding random fake news and conspiracy theorieez on the netz and runnning into Alex Bones from dat infowars as well as RT which hired Larry King as a master KGB propagandists a brainwashing our best deepest intellectz thinkers in the history of our democracy...ROFL!!!!!
Anyways, NICE JOB DUMP! DRAIN THE SWAMP AND KEEP EATIN DAT BEAUTIFUL CHOCOLATE CAKE!!!!!!!
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Postol said: "I have reviewed the [White House's] document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria at roughly 6am to 7am on 4 April, 2017.
"In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document point to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of 4 April.
"This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin release and the photographs of that source. My own assessment is that the source was very likely tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White House."
"The explosive acted on the pipe as a blunt crushing mallet," Postol said. "It drove the pipe into the ground while at the same time creating the crater.
"Since the pipe was filled with sarin, which is an incompressible fluid, as the pipe was flattened, the sarin acted on the walls and ends of the pipe causing a crack along the length of the pipe and also the failure of the cap on the back end."
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They need to block those internetz at MIT, the professors are finding random fake news and conspiracy theorieez on the netz and runnning into Alex Bones from dat infowars as well as RT which hired Larry King as a master KGB propagandists a brainwashing our best deepest intellectz thinkers in the history of our democracy...ROFL!!!!!
Anyways, NICE JOB DUMP! DRAIN THE SWAMP AND KEEP EATIN DAT BEAUTIFUL CHOCOLATE CAKE!!!!!!!
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Postol said: "I have reviewed the [White House's] document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Syria at roughly 6am to 7am on 4 April, 2017.
"In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document point to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of 4 April.
"This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin release and the photographs of that source. My own assessment is that the source was very likely tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White House."
"The explosive acted on the pipe as a blunt crushing mallet," Postol said. "It drove the pipe into the ground while at the same time creating the crater.
"Since the pipe was filled with sarin, which is an incompressible fluid, as the pipe was flattened, the sarin acted on the walls and ends of the pipe causing a crack along the length of the pipe and also the failure of the cap on the back end."
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ax1
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Because of the civil war that Obama and Hitlery started. The US dropped billions and billions of dollars in weapons, training, ammunition to terrorist groups now known as ISIS to start and fuel the civil war overthrow the government there.
Before Obama and Hitlery decided to destroy Syria, it was a beautiful low crime country and a vacation destination.
Misfit28
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I think this is a good article, explaining how it is more complex than most think.
It does mention the US under Obama training rebels, but it is far too simplistic to say that Obama and Hillary started it.
And again, I'm not saying we didn't support the 60 rebels that we did. I'm just saying that the Syrian Civil War was started by many different actors and had far more factors involved.
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ax1
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Obama and Hitlery started, financed, spend BILLIONS or our tax dollars to start and fuel the true civil war and it started even before the timeline listed in that article. That article is just a load of propaganda from Al-jazeera and is lacking in alot of information to deceive the public from the truth.
ax1
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The fact is if Obama and Hitlery did not invest in billions of dollars funding, training and arming terrorist regimes and bringing in other terrorist regimes from other countries such as Al-queda to join the civil war we would not have had the genocide occur. Its plain and simple, interventionism and regime change can lead to genocide. If it wasnt for their policies that they supported Syria would still be a peaceful low crime country and a nice place to live.
Nice job Hitlery! Phony azz "defender" of woman who is really nothing but a low life scum lunatic mass blood thirsty genocidalist serial killer of woman and children who no matter what you believe your afterlife will not be pleasant and she will pay for her crimes against humanity.
ax1
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I don't believe in an afterlife. She either gets her justice here on Earth or not at all, IMO.
I just want proper due process with her, Obama and of course they are just a couple of pimples to the issue at hand and just puppets to the bigger picture.
Ill remind you, I know Assad is no good I never want to come across as if he is, but he is in no way worse than Saudi Arabia and Dump is selling the high tech weapons soon. Its all hypocrisy. At least Assad doesnt oppress woman and torture them. He is more of a modern reformer....not that Im saying he is good he is not but I know for a fact it was a much better situation there than several other middle eastern countries that happen to be Allies with the US and then we intentionally overlook their genocides because its convenient to have a military base there or have oil contracts.
cubsfan815
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I still write in Ron Paul every election.
ax1
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I do agree with you
Did you hear about Turkey? They had some election that just made the leader there 1 step closer to dictatorship and maintain power until at least 2029.
I know its mainstream news link Im posting, but I actually watch, listen and read that all the time lol
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hairygrandpa
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justhere4comm
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ax1
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Hey I'm not kidding, the US of A still uses floppy disks to launch is nukes.
That fact you posted that almost made me cough up my testicles!
justhere4comm
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ax1
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Its older than that, much much they use computers from the 70s, we are talking when the first Apple computer came out or older.
I found a quick article, I remember seeing this in CNN and 60 minutes a while back.
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If you think about it though, maybe this tech is far safer from hacking than this modern connected tech of today. They are looking to update this year some time but maybe thats a bad idea, lol
Here is a direct government report about old tech still being used, its really ridiculous imo.
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Aleksandar37
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Misfit28
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And Trump congratulated him
jswain34
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I would agree with that. It seems a lot more secure to me to have to have a hard floppy in order to run a program/launch sequence than have it stores somewhere digitally, regardless of how strong one feels their security/encryption is. I dont know maybe im just old school, but id rather someone have to come take the floppy from us than just hack our computers.
youngandfree
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The Virginia Governor's race is heating up. It's a good thing George Soros is spending his money on the Democrat puppet.
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ax1
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And Trump congratulated him
For what? Making a great "deal" buying cheap oil from the ISIS rebels they helped Obama and Hitlery create who gave consistant stand down orders not to blow up because the driver just needs a job?
Hey whatever happened to Dump blowing up the oils fields cutting off the main ISIS money supply? Remember that one? When is that gonna happen? Seems like it got swept into obsoletion.