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ax1 said:
Its called nature...it always changes and there is nothing we can do to stop it or always predict its course and what solar activity does to our planet.

Now your statement "We simply dont know really what is going on" has been my exact position the entire time.
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Oh, well then yeah. Haha.
 
rtmilburn said:
No the amount of methane released by large dairy farms is very very very high and methane is much much more damaging then co2
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More methane is released when the ice caps shrink. The ice has been keeping it down for thousands of years, but as global temps rise, ice melts, methane is released.
 
Jiigzz said:
Except no-one is really asking for money, they're asking people to be more cognizant of the way they live and behave (corporations mostly). What might surprise you is that the researchers I work with don't make a lot of coin by stating facts, and all of the guys is genuinely concerned for what the face of the earth will look like in the next 20 years.

The problem is, your hate for the government causes you to question anything acknowledged by them, but that doesn't make it false.
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I guess you've never heard of cap and trade and the carbon exchange. People selling carbon credits "to offset emmissions" is taking money from companies based on their emmissions.
 
rtmilburn said:
No the amount of methane released by large dairy farms is very very very high and methane is much much more damaging then co2
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But who the hell established the dairy farms?! Holy hell, man.......

I said it jokingly, but you still didn't get it. If it wasn't for people, there wouldn't be dairy farms. So, how exactly is that not contributing? I'm confused.
 
Misfit28 said:
But who the hell established the dairy farms?! Holy hell, man.......

I said it jokingly, but you still didn't get it. If it wasn't for people, there wouldn't be dairy farms. So, how exactly is that not contributing? I'm confused.
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No i got it but decided to ingore the comment as anyone who thinks we shouldn't have dairys is an idiot. Not to mention evidence of the "green house gasses" being the cause is lacking.
 
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rtmilburn said:
Are you talking about his recent comment that he specifically said to black voters what do you have to lose?
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If we take a more in depth look at what he said I would have to assume he was imitating the chant that is started at the beginning of a Klu Klux Klan meeting.
 
rtmilburn said:
Are you talking about his recent comment that he specifically said to black voters what do you have to lose?
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Oh you mean the comment he made referring to how black voters have historically voted for the Democratic Party, a group of people who have historically been the main culprits behind all sorts of discrimination and racially fueled lawmaking? Yeah. I guess I am talking about that.
You mean the comment that referred to how cities that have traditionally always elected democratic legislators and politicians tend to be the ones with higher poverty, crime, etc. and how the people who vote for them, continue to be brainwashed by the left? Yeah. I must be.

We should just go ahead and completely ignore the race pandering done by Democrats on a consistent basis and only pay attention to when Republicans do it. Oh yeah, that's already what everyone does!
 
BamBam0319 said:
Oh you mean the comment he made referring to how black voters have historically voted for the Democratic Party, a group of people who have historically been the main culprits behind all sorts of discrimination and racially fueled lawmaking? Yeah. I guess I am talking about that.
You mean the comment that referred to how cities that have traditionally always elected democratic legislators and politicians tend to be the ones with higher poverty, crime, etc. and how the people who vote for them, continue to be brainwashed by the left? Yeah. I must be.

We should just go ahead and completely ignore the race pandering done by Democrats on a consistent basis and only pay attention to when Republicans do it. Oh yeah, that's already what everyone does!
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Im not disagreeing. Im voting for trump, its just comments like that will make it hard to get those votes.
 
rtmilburn said:
Im not disagreeing. Im voting for trump, its just comments like that will make it hard to get those votes.
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I saw people interpreting a lot of different ways. The way I personally saw it, was that he was straight up coming out and saying "look the democrats have never gotten you anywhere that they promise you they will; what do you have to lose by taking a different route this time?" Of course he always has to botch even the most well-meaning messages though.
 
It's funny to think that a self-professed billionaire has $650 million less than I have
 
And I have nothing
 
Mark Cuban > Donald Trump? Thoughts? He is another billionaire businessman who's not afraid to be independent and speak his mind, but not to the point of stupidity that Trump does, and I don't think he's as much of an egomaniac.
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As far as his political ideology goes, Cuban said that he'd like to be a libertarian but he wants to maintain more of the social safety net than libertarian stalwarts.

"Not so much libertarian as much as I'd like to be libertarian," Cuban told Hansen of his beliefs. "When I think libertarian, it's 'as small of a government as we can get, right now - you just cut right through it and you make it [smaller] right now.' That's not real. There's got to be a process. There's got to be a transition. As a country, we make decisions. We make decisions that we're going to provide healthcare, right? We don't just let people die on the street. You can go into any hospital and they have to treat you."

"I'm a Republican in the respect that I like smaller government and I like less intrusion in some areas. But there's sometimes where I think we have to intrude. I think there's sometimes when you have to do things," he said.

"You can't cure every ill with a government program. I literally would rather write a check: Take whatever money is in a given department in the government, take 25% off the top, put it back in the taxpayers' pockets, and then just give cash to people, right? Because it'll be more effective in how it's used and help the economy at the same time," he said.
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rtmilburn said:
No i got it but decided to ingore the comment as anyone who thinks we shouldn't have dairys is an idiot. Not to mention evidence of the "green house gasses" being the cause is lacking.
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Idiot, huh? You really seem to lack basic reading comprehension or even logic.
 
rtmilburn said:
Ya sure we will go with that.
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Let's see:

You mentioned that humans have little to do with climate change.

You then posited that dairy farms have more of an impact than human activity, as methane is harmful than CO2.

Humans established dairy and meat farms to support human dietary needs.

Therefore, humans have contributed significantly to greenhouse gases by domesticating modern cattle and establishing large scale dairy and meat farms. Not to mention the clearcutting of forests that had to be done before these large ranches/dairies could be built.

Does that not make sense?
 
Misfit28 said:
Not to mention the clearcutting of forests that had to be done before these large ranches/dairies could be built.
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This is not true at all. They dont want cattle anywhere near forested areas. It gives them accesses to plants that make their meet and milk taste horrible. They want them in grass plains and desserts to control what nutrients they have acesses to. Trust me i grew up on a farm and have worked on them.
 
rtmilburn said:
This is not true at all. They dont want cattle anywhere near forested areas. It gives them accesses to plants that make their meet and milk taste horrible. The want them in grass plains and desserts to control what nutrients they have acesses to. Trust me i grew on a farm and have worked on them.
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I remember back in the early-mid 80's it was all over TV and elementary school it was save the Amazon Forest or its all Armageddon and humans will disintegrate on top of the world is going to freeze over, ROFL!!!!!!
 
Misfit28 said:
Let's see:

You mentioned that humans have little to do with climate change.

You then posited that dairy farms have more of an impact than human activity, as methane is harmful than CO2.

Humans established dairy and meat farms to support human dietary needs.

Therefore, humans have contributed significantly to greenhouse gases by domesticating modern cattle and establishing large scale dairy and meat farms. Not to mention the clearcutting of forests that had to be done before these large ranches/dairies could be built.

Does that not make sense?
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I guess you got me. Oh boy! I guess we should have never build cattle or dairy farms, and not provide a sustainable food source for billions.

Again my point is not just diary farms it was an example damn. How about all of other large animals? Elephant's that produce nearly 100 times more then cattle. What if we combine those numbers of all animals and see how much is produces from animals that we dont use, and just let roam. Uhm did we cause that... well geez im too stupid to know
 
rtmilburn said:
I guess you got me. Oh boy! I guess we should have never build cattle or dairy farms, and not provide a sustainable food source for billions.

Again my point is not just diary farms it was an example damn. How about all of other large animals? Elephant's that produce nearly 100 times more then cattle. What if we combine those numbers of all animals and see how much is produces from animals that we dont use, and just let roam. Uhm did we cause that... well geez im too stupid to know
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One tiny volcano and forgeddaboutit! That will probably put out more CO2 than a billion Elephants on steroids!

But hey, we should just let private global government tax the crap out of us so we can live.
 
ax1 said:
One tiny volcano and forgeddaboutit! That will probably put out more CO2 than a billion Elephants on steroids!

But hey, we should just let private global government tax the crap out of us so we can live.
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Well volcanoes are a separate issue. They release sulfur which is said to be less harmful then methane. As methane is said to me one of the most damaging. However sulfur is worse then co2 and raises the ph of ocean more so then the co2. It is also, like you said, the amount from even just a couple volcanoes is sooo much more then co2 and methane form all sources. It was actually said that the high volcanic activity is was created the ice age and the earth was much hotter before the ice age then it is now.
 
rtmilburn said:
Better ban farting or the earth will start on fire but wait if we hold them in we will spontaneously explode!
(South park anyone?)
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No, a ban would be a waste. We can have high tech flatulence sensors regulated into all underwear so we can be taxed by the fart and give it to Al Gore so he can zip around his private jets from his mansion and save the universe.
 
ax1 said:
No, a ban would be a waste. We can have high tech flatulence sensors regulated into all underwear so we can be taxed by the fart and give it to Al Gore so he can zip around his private jets from his mansion and save the universe.
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Haha you obviously haven't seen the south park episode i was talking about. As its pretty similar to thag but with some changed details and some other added in.
 
rtmilburn said:
Are you talking about his recent comment that he specifically said to black voters what do you have to lose?
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The speech he gave in Detroit, while speaking directly to the people of Detroit. One of the worst cities in America. He made a huge point to those people targeting how have the Dems helped you when your city is falling apart
 
Socalmk6gti said:
The speech he gave in Detroit, while speaking directly to the people of Detroit. One of the worst cities in America. He made a huge point to those people targeting how have the Dems helped you when your city is falling apart
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The best thing that has happened to that city in recent years was when the police chief encouraged its citizens to arm themselves and violence was drastically reduced which is against what out of touch democrats and liberals believe the solution to gun violence is.
 
rtmilburn said:
I guess you got me. Oh boy! I guess we should have never build cattle or dairy farms, and not provide a sustainable food source for billions.

Again my point is not just diary farms it was an example damn. How about all of other large animals? Elephant's that produce nearly 100 times more then cattle. What if we combine those numbers of all animals and see how much is produces from animals that we dont use, and just let roam. Uhm did we cause that... well geez im too stupid to know
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If your example is a strawman, well then......

I love how you assume so much and read so much into what I actually said.
 
And 15,000 more emails found of HRC. She had the audacity to try and pawn off her issues on Colin Powell. So glad he stood up and denied her claims.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
And 15,000 more emails found of HRC. She had the audacity to try and pawn off her issues on Colin Powell. So glad he stood up and denied her claims.
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She is absolute filthy criminal, am shocked I know people that support her. I usually keep silent and smile but burn deep inside, lol.
 
Socalmk6gti said:
And 15,000 more emails found of HRC. She had the audacity to try and pawn off her issues on Colin Powell. So glad he stood up and denied her claims.
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Lied under oath. If she isn't indicted for this bull**** I'll have completely lost faith in the integrity of our system.
 
They need to keep pushing the pay to play with the foundation. That is the only way to get her.

My only concern is that many top officials are involved which will make it difficult to bring her down.
 
AE14 said:
They need to keep pushing the pay to play with the foundation. That is the only way to get her.

My only concern is that many top officials are involved which will make it difficult to bring her down.
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Yah, like the whole f**king FBI?
 
Donald Rump is very ethical and never lies. Just ask all the laborers and contractors he refused to pay. People never lie in the real estate market.
 
Piston Honda said:
Donald Rump is very ethical and never lies. Just ask all the laborers and contractors he refused to pay. People never lie in the real estate market.
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Again, Trump is not a good candidate at all...but how do comments about him negate the potential crimes of HRC?

Based on the next trove of 15,000 emails just released, she belongs in prison and not running for president.

Before you say that you are sure a republic did this in the past...if the did they belong in prison too.
 
The rich and powerful don't suffer the way the rest of us plebeians do. Otherwise George Bush would face a domestic Nuremberg for waging a war based on lies.
 
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