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Trying to overtake a government is coup attempt yes. The problem is there was no real plan or strategy once they got into the capital. Also while the liberals was making a mess of the country what was Trump doing these 4 yrs?

This forum is an echo chamber of the same thought. BLM/liberals bad and at fault. Capital rioters/conservatives good. So as this country continues to blame each other nothing will ever get fixed and I’m not talking about peace and unity.
It was already a coup, so a coup of a coup? Or a coup before the coup takes place on the 20th?

There are State powers blocking Federal aid that Dump wanted to send all summer, so thats that.

I dont like Dump, didnt vote for him but I call out all the BS as I see it. I lost regardless if a Demican or Republicrat wins.
 
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Trying to overtake a government is coup attempt yes. The problem is there was no real plan or strategy once they got into the capital. Also while the liberals was making a mess of the country what was Trump doing these 4 yrs?

This forum is an echo chamber of the same thought. BLM/liberals bad and at fault. Capital rioters/conservatives good. So as this country continues to blame each other nothing will ever get fixed and I’m not talking about peace and unity.
Let me be very clear, the only path to unity is by destroying both the Republicrat and Demican party. Most of their relevent policies are the same, they are corrupt and once the curtains close all the theft is done.
 

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It was already a coup, so a coup of a coup? Or a coup before the coup takes place on the 20th?

There are State powers blocking Federal aid that Dump wanted to send all summer, so thats that.

I dont like Dump, didnt vote for him but I call out all the BS as I see it. I lost regardless if a Demican or Republicrat wins.
I respect that.
 

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Let me be very clear, the only path to unity is by destroying both the Republicrat and Demican party. Most of their relevent policies are the same, they are corrupt and once the curtains close all the theft is done.
I respect that too.
 
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Why would you want Trump to take credit for a socialist style of help. I thought conservatives wanted less government help. Strap up them boots and pull yourself up.
i never said i wanted trump to take credit for stimulus package, i said pelosi held up stimulus package so trump wouldn't get credit for it...your reading comprehension leaves some room for improvement-eh?

besides, since you are new to this forum i should let you know that although i voted republican i don't go along with everything they are for--i am actually quite liberal on many issues...i believe that it is worth it if some people abuse welfare to have that safety net in place for those who really need it...

and i am pro life, this means not only am i against abortion, i am anti-capital punishment as well.
 
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I respect that too.
The truth is this recent election was stolen before election day when yet again the American people were deprived of hearing the other voices on the ballot, incuding one that earned mandatory ballot access in all 50 states. The rig and cheat out the other voices and society is stuck thinking in a false left/right paradime thinking they have have a choice between coke and pepsie.

Check out this video with George Carlin, this is the truth.

 
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Draconian gun control, this was introduced only 8 days ago. The text hasnt been released yet but by the sounds of it, its pretty hardcore and I bet they are going to justify by exploiting their false flag operations.

H.R.127 - To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

 
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People forget how much we can be tracked, simply because we carry our phones everywhere.
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I'm in a good spot, still have farm land, no neighbors, great hunting, fishing, and live 8/10 of a mile from a marina.
You’re lucky to have some land. Lots of it has been scooped up through the years. I remember Chaney Enterprise bought as much land as they could for concrete plants and Business complexes. There’s some beautiful places in that area and you definitely have one man.
 
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You’re lucky to have some land. Lots of it has been scooped up through the years. I remember Chaney Enterprise bought as much land as they could for concrete plants and Business complexes. There’s some beautiful places in that area and you definitely have one man.
Yes they are still buying up land all up and down the eastern shore, St Mary's, everywhere.

They are actually my competition believe it or not, but over the past few years we have been working together on lots of projects.

I'm 7 miles west outside of laplata, were we live you have to have a minimum 5 acres to build.
 

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Yes they are still buying up land all up and down the eastern shore, St Mary's, everywhere.

They are actually my competition believe it or not, but over the past few years we have been working together on lots of projects.

I'm 7 miles west outside of laplata, were we live you have to have a minimum 5 acres to build.
La Plata still has some nice areas. My ex’s best friend and her husband live in La Plata. I can’t remember the name of the street they live on. The husband is a big hunter.

My ex brother in law used to work for Chaney and managed the concrete plant in Annapolis years ago.
 
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i never said i wanted trump to take credit for stimulus package, i said pelosi held up stimulus package so trump wouldn't get credit for it...your reading comprehension leaves some room for improvement-eh?

besides, since you are new to this forum i should let you know that although i voted republican i don't go along with everything they are for--i am actually quite liberal on many issues...i believe that it is worth it if some people abuse welfare to have that safety net in place for those who really need it...

and i am pro life, this means not only am i against abortion, i am anti-capital punishment as well.
Speaking of anti capital punishment...looks like ole girl is now worm food.
 
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La Plata still has some nice areas. My ex’s best friend and her husband live in La Plata. I can’t remember the name of the street they live on. The husband is a big hunter.

My ex brother in law used to work for Chaney and managed the concrete plant in Annapolis years ago.
Nice chat brother, im sure we all know each other. Everybody knows Everybody in these small towns
 
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Something to ponder.... "IF" the election really was stolen, and we no longer have divided government or free and fair elections.... what actually WOULD be the correct response???

Its not like you can 'vote them out in 2 years' just ask the people of Venezuela or Iran.
 
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Something to ponder.... "IF" the election really was stolen, and we no longer have divided government or free and fair elections.... what actually WOULD be the correct response???

Its not like you can 'vote them out in 2 years' just ask the people of Venezuela or Iran.
I’m guessing the founding fathers would have started shooting already.
 
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Speaking of Mike. I was able to sit right beside him last year for dinner during a fishing tournament.

(Besides the glass door in between us)

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i never said i wanted trump to take credit for stimulus package, i said pelosi held up stimulus package so trump wouldn't get credit for it...your reading comprehension leaves some room for improvement-eh?

besides, since you are new to this forum i should let you know that although i voted republican i don't go along with everything they are for--i am actually quite liberal on many issues...i believe that it is worth it if some people abuse welfare to have that safety net in place for those who really need it...

and i am pro life, this means not only am i against abortion, i am anti-capital punishment as well.
I know you like to insult people when your feelings get hurt, my bad.
 
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Let me be very clear, the only path to unity is by destroying both the Republicrat and Demican party. Most of their relevent policies are the same, they are corrupt and once the curtains close all the theft is done.
I share some of this sentiment but it isn't the PARTY that is the issue. That is where all the "we need an alternative party" people fall down. The PEOPLE in power are the problems. Parties represent values and those parties can grow and change while holding onto simple core values. The republican party has done so for hundreds of years, and numerous equality and freedom parties have been incorporated into their philosophies.

The issue is that the people no longer represent those parties and the values the parties hold. As you point out, the Republicans give hand outs just like the liberals. Well, they aren't being Republicans, as you rightfully point out.

We don't need to destroy the parties. We need to REINFORCE them and kick people out who don't support the values they should.

Unfortunately, people have what the majority have voted for over the past 100 years. Everyone jumps up and agrees if you say, "Term Limits!" But then they turn around and vote for someone who has been in office for decades and never held a real job in his life. We have Clintons and Bushes in power for 36 of my 41 years.

The Capitol was unfortunately probably a warning shot that the politicians are ignoring 75M Americans and rather than take a look at themselves and how they have all contributed to this, they want to point fingers at one man and double down and create more aggression. If there is another protest on inauguration day, and they crack down the way they are planning, we are going to forget January 6th ever happened I fear. They cannot beat people who are becoming violent because of their insistence that they are always right by saying they are right more forcefully with unfounded prosecution, impeachment, etc.

Yes, the people who run this country need to be dismantled. And if we want to discuss punishments - with due process, in an American way - let's do it across the board. Pelosi, for one, will be in serious hot water if we go that route.

And voters are ultimately to blame for voting in the same people over and over again and expecting a different result. Nothing changes because the voting doesn't change.

Something to ponder.... "IF" the election really was stolen, and we no longer have divided government or free and fair elections.... what actually WOULD be the correct response???

Its not like you can 'vote them out in 2 years' just ask the people of Venezuela or Iran.
Einstein once said, "if I had an hour to sve a complex problem, I would spend the first 55 minutes looking for the right question to ask."

This is the tough call, at what point is violence the only reasonable option left. In Iraq, under Sadam, should the citizens have remained peaceful as he sent family members home in trash bags? What if those citizens rose up with violence before it got as far as it did? Maybe they would have liberated themselves. What about Stalin? Hitler?

Right now there is actually a large portion of people who believe this was stolen. Pelosi is to blame for this as much as Trump. These people were against mail-in ballots and Trump spoke up for them, and the politicians chose to ignore them (for their own gain). You cannot ignore someone when they have concerns of fairness and then expect them to trust you. But she doesn't work anything out, she just wants it her way or no way. You know, like a dictator.

I think the capitol riots went too far. I fear it is going to get worse because the opposition doesn't have any adults or people who will listen to other views. Where is the line where there was no other appropriate response? Not really sure.

I’m guessing the founding fathers would have started shooting already.
I am not really sure of this either. It isn't like they got to America and turned around and gave a big middle to the Atlantic Ocean. There were numerous attempts at sending the message...the Boston Tea Party, lots of protests/insurrection, etc. The revolution wasn't a single point in time of course...even though we tend to view it like that.
 
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Btw - that little rant was paid for by @bossmaand I am Hit4me and I approve this message.
 
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I know you like to insult people when your feelings get hurt, my bad.
Wait, so when people hurt his feelings he likes to hurt their feelings in return?
 

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This is dated for the 14th just a day and a half.


America's future below

Did you read the bill? You know it was introduced on 1/14/2020 and passed to the senate on 9/21/2020. You do know that they’re are white supremacist groups out here killing people? Also the bill was bipartisan for whatever that’s worth.
 

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Draconian gun control, this was introduced only 8 days ago. The text hasnt been released yet but by the sounds of it, its pretty hardcore and I bet they are going to justify by exploiting their false flag operations.

H.R.127 - To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

You don’t need a license to drive but they make you get one so that they can make you pay yearly. It’s more about finances. Hell they make you get a fishing license.
 
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The license isn't about revenue, and registration isn't about safety. Its deliberate steps towards a specific goal. The end of private gun ownership in America.

If you play their game and pay $20 for a license, the next year they can make it $200 and the next year $2000, etc. The day you stop paying is the day they come take your guns. So they can deal with 'the people' in smaller controlled numbers rather than as one big attempt at widespread confiscation.
They are NOT nice freedom loving people... but they are also not stupid.

Registration, no matter how pretty a bow is placed on it.... is simply to gather a list of weapons they plan to come take later.
 
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You don’t need a license to drive but they make you get one so that they can make you pay yearly. It’s more about finances. Hell they make you get a fishing license.
The United States Constitution says the Right to Bear Arms shall not be infringed as a natural born right, it doesnt say the Right to Bear Arms is a right given by the government. A license would be contradictory to its purpose, which is primarily there so the people can defend themselves against the government and officials that sign off on that would be violating their oath of office and have to go to jail.
 
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Did you read the bill? You know it was introduced on 1/14/2020 and passed to the senate on 9/21/2020. You do know that they’re are white supremacist groups out here killing people? Also the bill was bipartisan for whatever that’s worth.
What this tells me is my brain is still stuck in the 2020 apocalypse, LOL There is another newer one out but I have to look into that later.

The idea of governmental thought police is the very definition of terrorism. The idea of labeling American Citizens as terrorists without proper due process is another significant violation of our natural law and is only used by tyrannical governments to subvert the protections people have under the Bill of Rights and is a direction in dangerous territory.

I read the Bill I posted and it is illegal trash, and in all honestly I dont take this lightly but we are going the direction of the Nazi's. Thats a fact.
 
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Something to ponder.... "IF" the election really was stolen, and we no longer have divided government or free and fair elections.... what actually WOULD be the correct response???

Its not like you can 'vote them out in 2 years' just ask the people of Venezuela or Iran.
Take it back over through localities before its too late. Regardless if its stolen or not, its illegitimate the way its processed (no ID, no sign confirmation, 3rd party hands via post office, etc...) I think we are still in a position our votes can count, after all they just do enough cheating to swing the vote but if people dont stand up for election reform right away then Im afraid we will lose our democracy for a very long time.
 
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I’m guessing the founding fathers would have started shooting already.
If they had a long enough lifespan and hid in the trenches and watched they would have done so in 1913 when the coup happened.
 
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I share some of this sentiment but it isn't the PARTY that is the issue. That is where all the "we need an alternative party" people fall down.
We dont need an alternative party, we already have one but Republicrats keep voting in the very people that rig the elections and deprive the people from hearing their voices. They can stop and if they realize how valuable our freedoms are we have the doors open to all of you and that includes liberals too who choose tiny government and constitutional rights over ideology.

Ok my coffee is ready and Ill finish reading soon, lol
 
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I share some of this sentiment but it isn't the PARTY that is the issue. That is where all the "we need an alternative party" people fall down.
I think I slightly misunderstood you so here I am again.

The Republicrat party have never ever stood up for my values from their time of birth. So I am not "we need and alternative party" and that is not where I "fall down."

At this date, the Libertarian Party IS the party that represents the United States Constitution and the vision of our Founding Fathers. The Republicrat party IS the real alternative party. Republicrat ideology is a problem and why we got to where we are today, and at its core its because they are for un-Constitutional big government thugs and hooligans since the beginning.
 
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i never said i wanted trump to take credit for stimulus package, i said pelosi held up stimulus package so trump wouldn't get credit for it...your reading comprehension leaves some room for improvement-eh?

besides, since you are new to this forum i should let you know that although i voted republican i don't go along with everything they are for--i am actually quite liberal on many issues...i believe that it is worth it if some people abuse welfare to have that safety net in place for those who really need it...

and i am pro life, this means not only am i against abortion, i am anti-capital punishment as well.
@kenic03 read the top very carefully...if you want to quote me then get it right. :D
 
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I think I slightly misunderstood you so here I am again.

The Republicrat party have never ever stood up for my values from their time of birth. So I am not "we need and alternative party" and that is not where I "fall down."

At this date, the Libertarian Party IS the party that represents the United States Constitution and the vision of our Founding Fathers. The Republicrat party IS the real alternative party. Republicrat ideology is a problem and why we got to where we are today, and at its core its because they are for un-Constitutional big government thugs and hooligans since the beginning.
We are not *far* apart here, I'm just trying to say that there is nothing wrong with the republican ideology necessarily - it's the implementation.

As a simplified version, conservatism is an ideology that seeks to preserve religious institutions. Now, I'm agnostic/atheist and don't necessarily share the values of these institutions, but lets use it as an example.

If Donald Trump decides he doesn't like churches anymore and we should shut them all down, well, that's not an issue with conservatism, that's an issue with Donald Trump. He isn't representing the core values of his party.

And what I've been saying all along is that republicans should be seeking smaller government with more individual freedoms and responsibilities - but we have career politicians saying they are republicans. This is NOT POSSIBLE. You cannot honestly and effectively fight the very institution for which your very livelihood depends. Career politicians running under the guise of being a republican will not fight for less power and reduced government authority - what will they do when their senate seat is now less powerful or has lower pay, or is deemed unnecessary? So they cannot follow the republican core values and reduce government, and thus they are not Republicans in anything other than their label.

The ideology is not "flawed" - the implementation is. And career politicians are where it all begins. We basically have monarchs.
 
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We are not *far* apart here, I'm just trying to say that there is nothing wrong with the republican ideology necessarily - it's the implementation.

As a simplified version, conservatism is an ideology that seeks to preserve religious institutions. Now, I'm agnostic/atheist and don't necessarily share the values of these institutions, but lets use it as an example.

If Donald Trump decides he doesn't like churches anymore and we should shut them all down, well, that's not an issue with conservatism, that's an issue with Donald Trump. He isn't representing the core values of his party.

And what I've been saying all along is that republicans should be seeking smaller government with more individual freedoms and responsibilities - but we have career politicians saying they are republicans. This is NOT POSSIBLE. You cannot honestly and effectively fight the very institution for which your very livelihood depends. Career politicians running under the guise of being a republican will not fight for less power and reduced government authority - what will they do when their senate seat is now less powerful or has lower pay, or is deemed unnecessary? So they cannot follow the republican core values and reduce government, and thus they are not Republicans in anything other than their label.

The ideology is not "flawed" - the implementation is. And career politicians are where it all begins. We basically have monarchs.
Well, there are certainly values we can all agree with.

I get your point, and I totally see that. Your people arent getting proper representation, and for whatever reason fresh blood who better represents the people and ideals rather than the establishment and inner circle for whatever reason never get pushed in.
 
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Well, there are certainly values we can all agree with.

I get your point, and I totally see that. Your people arent getting proper representation, and for whatever reason fresh blood who better represents the people and ideals rather than the establishment and inner circle for whatever reason never get pushed in.
I think we agree there - ultimately we need new people in play. And I think if we had more local representation in the libertarian party, etc. and it grew from there it would have a better chance. You are right we have to start locally and make some changes.
 
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I think we agree there - ultimately we need new people in play. And I think if we had more local representation in the libertarian party, etc. and it grew from there it would have a better chance. You are right we have to start locally and make some changes.
It doesn’t take much to make a difference, imagine if Libertarians took 10 Senate seats, we would totally have the power in the Senate. We would totally own the swing vote. Having power and influence isn’t as distant as most people think. We would have the path to the Presidential debate stage as we would make national news every day. We would have serious power and influence.

And yes, localities...I helped a local Libertarian DA win just last year and that effects my district today.
 
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HAS to start over locally, grass roots, third party. The GOP is toast for a decade, if not a generation. They took a big gamble and made a YUGE irreversible miscalculation.
**** the GOP right now. Still pissed I donated to Lindsey Graham
 
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LMFAO @GOP who voted to molest women with hired Walmart convicts at airports and then bitch about a stupid metal detector. Fuq off all of you!

And “lawmakers?” What lawmakers??? Corrupt low life con men is accurate.

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That sexually ambiguous Lindsey Graham is quite the character! LOL. Remember in the primaries when Trump released LG's personal cell phone number? And I think when LG tried to do the same thing back, Trump already had it calling to a pro Trump campaign add. HA!

I liked Lindsey when he got some spine and put an end to the unhinged madness of the Kavanaugh hearings. You could say another occasion where Dem mobs stormed a different branch of govt to interrupt constitutional proceedings, but I digress.

Either way... Lindsey became one of the strongest Trump supporters until it was clear he would not win... and then career politician Lindsey Graham crawled back into the swamp from whence he came. The circle of life in DC. It needs to end....
 
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Well, the impeachment happened. What a disgrace and misguided abuse of power.

They just sealed the deal for riots is all they have accomplished.

Oh well, game on!
Ugh... I.CANT.ANYMORE....
 

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