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Is there not a way to be honest without calling someone's country a shithole? That's so interesting to me that you justify it by saying well, it was honesty and if you don't like it, you're a snowflake. Don't you find throwing out those labels to justify your own stance a bit lazy?

There's an infinite amount of other ways he could have more accurately stated what he meant, displayed some semblance of compassion, etc....and you chalk it up to honesty and the rest of us being snowflakes for wanting a leader with more depth than that? ugh lol Brutal man haha

Don't you think the commander in chief deserves to be held to a higher standard than that?
you mean like obama who went on a apology tour? after obama trump was what many in this country were looking for-someone to stand up for America after shythole obama.

i happen to love and respect out country, how about you?
 
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you mean like obama who went on a apology tour? after obama trump was what many in this country were looking for-someone to stand up for America after shythole obama.

i happen to love and respect out country, how about you?
Nope. Not looking for an apologist either, so that's off the mark. Not sure why you'd think because I disapprove of Trumps rederick that I by default approve of Obama being soft?

I love and respect this country as much as anyone - confused as to why you'd even ask? It is in fact my deep sense of patriotism that makes me demand more of my leaders from local to the highest level - to show the world what we're capable of and that we are better than this.

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Nope. Not looking for an apologist either, so that's off the mark. Not sure why you'd think because I disapprove of Trumps redirect that I by default approve of Obama being soft?

I love and respect this country as much as anyone - confused as to why you'd even ask? It is in fact my deep sense of patriotism that makes me demand more of my leaders from local to the highest level - to show the world what we're capable of and that we are better than this.
then you should be proud of a leader like trump that has the balls to stand up to nato and get them to pay up!!!


got some work to do-later.
 
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then you should be proud of a leader like trump that has the balls to stand up to nato and get them to pay up!!!


got some work to do-later.
100% man - the peace in the middle east, unemployment, improved the war on crime. I'm not anti-trump just for the sake of it like the other sheeple. I simply think we can STILL do better despite all of it, that the best country in the world has people in it that would better represent our potential, the breadth of diverse people that live here, and lead us into a more prosperous future. That's all broski - I hear you though.
 
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Hold on hold on, so Trump using the system = good, Biden using the system = bad?

I'm sure the entirety of Trumps family got their respective positions on their own merits and not because Trump is president. Yep. Definitely sure about that.

Got it. Makes 100% sense.
In regards to your first question, I think you must be tired because I already answered that in the very post you quoted, LOL
 
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Go to the 1:00 mark.

And didnt Trump call Haiti a s#!thole? Lol
Muslims have called for a Holy War on the United States. He is just saying lets stop and figure out what is going on.

There was a time we can talk in generalities and vagueness in the USA where as you know and fully understand the context people are talking in.

The culture has changed and speech has been weaponized.

Obobo bombing muslim babies = compassion
Dump opens his mouth = terrorist

Well....Dump bombs muslim babies too, but the point is people are being manipulated with meaningless distractions from real issues. Dump is not a racist.

Haiti is a shythole, you wouldnt want to live there. That doesnt mean people are racist for saying that, they are just stating the facts.
 
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Is there not a way to be honest without calling someone's country a shithole? That's so interesting to me that you justify it by saying well, it was honesty and if you don't like it, you're a snowflake. Don't you find throwing out those labels to justify your own stance a bit lazy?

There's an infinite amount of other ways he could have more accurately stated what he meant, displayed some semblance of compassion, etc....and you chalk it up to honesty and the rest of us being snowflakes for wanting a leader with more depth than that? ugh lol Brutal man haha

Don't you think the commander in chief deserves to be held to a higher standard than that?
Dump won probably because of pushback from the extreme political correctness left that had gained ground in this country.

I mean like your right, as a leader he could be more cordial but he is a professionally trained actor and knows how to play the camera to get alot of attention. Im not justifying what he said was right in the position he is in, but thats why he won.

Im not a Dump supporter, I dont like his policies of big spending monster police state government along with his massive socialism (yes its true,) and Im not voting for him.

I can tell you Im personally disgusted with the level of war waged and speech and thought with weaponized political correctness, and its getting worse.
 
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then you should be proud of a leader like trump that has the balls to stand up to nato and get them to pay up!!!


got some work to do-later.
If only Dump had the balls to stand up to protect the United States Constitution Id be proud of him, but he is far from that so I never will be.
 
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'dc voters are being sent mail-in ballots for ex-residents'

'judges uphold texas election law in blow to democrats'

'maine court cites voter fraud concern in ruling against push for ballot harvesting, extending absentee deadline'
 
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comey hearing? bet most of you didn't even know he testified before senate yesterday-eh?

abc, cbs, nbc didn't even mention it.
 
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james comey then-fisa warrants are all fully vetted

james comey yesterday-i was wrong

wait a minute jimbo, you swore you had verified those warrants when YOU signed off on them.
 
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biden says the accusations against hunter biden have been debunked----by who joe?
 
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In that case 100 trillion would have end up being a godzillion, whatever comes after trillions, lol
According to my sources, the order is: billion gagillion fafillion shabadabalo shabadamillion shabaling shabalomillion
 
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Won't even attempt to discuss the commercial real estate aspect, its a blind spot for me for sure. However I'd imagine just a basic EBITDA analysis of the businesses themselves wouldn't help with strong valuations to pay off the alleged debt due. Just my .02c

To your point, would 2B and 200B matter to the average American? Absolutely not, theyre buried either way. I think I mispresented my point though if this is where you think I was headed.

Say you're a foreign power trying to gain some influence and power within the US, would you rather our president owe you 300M or a former VP's son owe you 3.5? Which better serves your ulterior motive?

That is where my heads at with this mess.
This is where I'd like to see the actual facts/statements....you might be right, I don't know because I don't have any real facts on it. Did they provide actual returns, statements, anything? From what I saw it was just an unsubstantiated source making claims?

It could be a sham businesses with a loan that is backed by nothing - in which case Trump has very little to worry about as there is no recourse for the lender. Being the leader of the US makes this even worse for the lender because, well, he has the ability for leverage.

More likely though, there are assets backing those loans - like a hotel, or group of hotels, etc. and then those lenders could and probably do have some recourse - and he may have personal guarantees which could wipe him out completely if he doesn't have the assets to cover it. But hey, then he's wiped out. And if he owes $350M and everything he has won't cover it, that's a win for him and a loss for the lender. I'll tell you what, give me $2,000,000 today and then come and take everything I have tomorrow. I'd do that deal. Let's see who has the leverage when you call me tomorrow and I have $2,000,000 in my pocket :)

And that could work for Biden too - but the question is, why did they give that money to Hunter? What was involved? And it seems like he had a lot of ongoing relationships like this, so what was the status there?

Also, keep in mind that the woman who gave him the money HAS that money because of government ties that would be highly unacceptable in this country - she got the money through corruption, but we should believe it was all on the up-and-up with a Biden involved.

Right and I'm sure people would be happy to argue that point. I just prefer a certain level of tact in those who represent our country on a global stage, I may be an outlier there.
This is fair, but he's out stating the truth at least. If we had someone who would state the truth AND was a better speaker that would be great. But I would take a jerk who speaks the truth (Trump) over a well-spoken guy smiling in my face and feeding me lies (think O'Biden). Is there room for improvement? Sure. Do we have a better option? Unfortunately we don't have anyone who gives us the cake and lets us eat it too.

But think about this - Do you think a man who needs his wife to stand up for him when he is asked about how he says stupid things, can't handle tough talk during a debate, and lies all the time is a good representation for us? What is going to happen when Kim Jong Un pushes him? Is he going to call him a clown or tell him to shut up? It isn't like he hasn't lost it in the same way against American citizens before - offering to take them outside, etc.

Or maybe he negotiates a contract that says Two Thousand Million instead of Two Million. That would be great.

everyone always talks about honesty but when you give it to them they whine like little snowflakes, lol.
We want you to be honest, but not be so mean about it. Don't call me a liar just because I'm lying. I prefer "stretcher".

Is there not a way to be honest without calling someone's country a shithole? That's so interesting to me that you justify it by saying well, it was honesty and if you don't like it, you're a snowflake. Don't you find throwing out those labels to justify your own stance a bit lazy?

There's an infinite amount of other ways he could have more accurately stated what he meant, displayed some semblance of compassion, etc....and you chalk it up to honesty and the rest of us being snowflakes for wanting a leader with more depth than that? ugh lol Brutal man haha

Don't you think the commander in chief deserves to be held to a higher standard than that?
Ok, your argument is, to me at least, better than the people who jump straight to the race card on this one. So he should have said, "Haiti is a horrible place to live." and left it at that. But would you say that to your friends? He isn't trying to polish anything up or pretend to be someone he is not. You know what he means. Diplomacy has its merits though, I will give you that. I'm not sure this is such a big deal though.


Yah...like half the people ITT when you tell them they’re completely full of shît
I resemble that remark.

100% man - the peace in the middle east, unemployment, improved the war on crime. I'm not anti-trump just for the sake of it like the other sheeple. I simply think we can STILL do better despite all of it, that the best country in the world has people in it that would better represent our potential, the breadth of diverse people that live here, and lead us into a more prosperous future. That's all broski - I hear you though.
I hear you on the bold part. Probably right. Unfortunately, I think he's by far the best option we have to choose from. Look at the opposition and **** he has been put through in the last 4 years. The best in this country do not want his job.
 
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You could argue it's factually correct but it still shows just an overall lack of compassion for the leader of the free world. I'd imagine that's the issue most people take when he says things like this. Devoid of empathy, compassion, etc unless it may benefit him in some way (public optics, polling, etc).
Republicans dont do compassion or leadership. They just like someone that can live out there hateful beliefs while still going to church and pretending to be a Christian.
 
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you mean like obama who went on a apology tour? after obama trump was what many in this country were looking for-someone to stand up for America after shythole obama.

i happen to love and respect out country, how about you?
People abroad dont respect the US right now, they pity you. You guys wont care, but it's not having the effect you think it is.
 
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Republicans dont do compassion or leadership. They just like someone that can live out there hateful beliefs while still going to church and pretending to be a Christian.
Interesting that you are painting a large group of people as all being the same based on one choice that they make. Sounds familiar, where have I seen that type of logic before?
 
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People abroad dont respect the US right now, they pity you. You guys wont care, but it's not having the effect you think it is.
We agree, I don't care. They can pity me all they like. They should stay home then too. I'm good with that.
 
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Muslims have called for a Holy War on the United States. He is just saying lets stop and figure out what is going on.

There was a time we can talk in generalities and vagueness in the USA where as you know and fully understand the context people are talking in.

The culture has changed and speech has been weaponized.

Obobo bombing muslim babies = compassion
Dump opens his mouth = terrorist

Well....Dump bombs muslim babies too, but the point is people are being manipulated with meaningless distractions from real issues. Dump is not a racist.

Haiti is a shythole, you wouldnt want to live there. That doesnt mean people are racist for saying that, they are just stating the facts.
It's just funny to me how you guys tear up countries, then blame them when they retaliate.

You want to ban Muslims? Ok, but then get your friggin armies out of other peoples countries you hypocrites.
 
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It's just funny to me how you guys tear up countries, then blame them when they retaliate.

You want to ban Muslims? Ok, but then get your friggin armies out of other peoples countries you hypocrites.
I agree here too - We shouldn't be helping other countries fight their wars. Let them kill each other. And if it comes to our soil, no troops...just bombs.
 
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It's just funny to me how you guys tear up countries, then blame them when they retaliate.

You want to ban Muslims? Ok, but then get your friggin armies out of other peoples countries you hypocrites.
"you guys" Your including me on that? RRROOOFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Where was I, got a text, oh.....LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
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Do we have a better option? Unfortunately we don't have anyone who gives us the cake and lets us eat it too.
Yes, we 100% positively do and she is on every ballot on all 50 states.

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"you guys" Your including me on that? RRROOOFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Where was I, got a text, oh.....LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Ok I laughed. I wasn't including you though because I know your stance lol
 
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These threads are an absolute nightmare to read. These people will believe in a faceless deity before they believe in things they could see for their own eyes if they really wanted.
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I'm shocked.
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Republicans dont do compassion or leadership. They just like someone that can live out there hateful beliefs while still going to church and pretending to be a Christian.
Government by nature is corrupt and evil, that is why the US Constitution was put in place and its documents were designed to have government set in place with as limited power as possible.

Both Demicans and Republicrats constantly prop up bigger government and have failed our country and will only continue to do so. And yeah, Republicrats pretend to be for small government but thats a total lie.
 
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People abroad dont respect the US right now, they pity you. You guys wont care, but it's not having the effect you think it is.
are you kidding me? people abroad are pissed off because trump isn't kissing their asses the way obama did-trump is telling them to pay up, you are full of shyt if you think they pity us-they are pissed off is what they are.

trump aint gonna do a apology tour like that ass obama did, and that is why they don't like trump--they want someone like obama kissing their asses.
 
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what i'm shocked about is the misinformation conversation the fbi had with the media as accomplices....the whole trump, russia thing was a plot by hillary clinton to divert attention away from her emails and obama was briefed about it, and the fbi knew it was a hoax from the beginning...

so if they can run this kind of hoax on the american people why should i believe anything a leftist anti-trumper like sarah evanega has to say.
 
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Yes, we 100% positively do and she is on every ballot on all 50 states.

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I don't dislike Jo, but here is the issue. She is a negative influence. EVERY vote she gets is from someone who, if they didn't have her as an option, would vote for Trump. In other words, voting for her is taking your vote for Trump and flushing it down the toilet - which helps flush this country down the toilet as a Harris/Biden administration takes over.

A presidential term is only considered for term limits if it is longer than 2 years. She could be president for almost 10 years! Would you want to allow that? Come on man. Think!

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I do like that last one especially. There is some science there - a testable hypothesis with an observation through experimentation. The human body is, in fact, very specific in design and includes a nose and mouth for breathing. We can experiment on this by covering up a nose and mouth and watching if someone cannot breath without them. We can observe the outcome and determine if the hypothesis is likely or unlikely. That's science. Very true.

But, I would suggest we can also support that a mask actually DOES support breathing. In a number of situations I have seen it first hand. Experiment 1, which I have actually done, is to go into an old attic full of blown in cellulose insulation for hours without a mask while working - let's see how easy it is to breath and make an observation. Then do the same thing with a mask. My observation of this experiment, having done it, is that the mask supports both my immediate AND my medium-term ability to breath - and I would hypothesize my long-term ability as well.

Second experiment I have not run...firefighters in a burning building. Send them in without a mask. Lets see how that works out.

My conclusion, based on science, is that yes we have a nose and mouth and they are required for breathing. And yes, masks do support their function in both the short and medium term, as well as possibly long term. Further research is warranted. haha.

@Jiigzz You and I seem to be in a lot of agreement today :)
 

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Republicans dont do compassion or leadership. They just like someone that can live out there hateful beliefs while still going to church and pretending to be a Christian.
You don’t have a clue. Stop acting like you know American politics.
 
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It's just funny to me how you guys tear up countries, then blame them when they retaliate.

You want to ban Muslims? Ok, but then get your friggin armies out of other peoples countries you hypocrites.
60 times more white supremacists in new zealand than US you should be more concerned with pulling that log out of your own eye-eh?
 
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what i'm shocked about is the misinformation conversation the fbi had with the media as accomplices....the whole trump, russia thing was a plot by hillary clinton to divert attention away from her emails and obama was briefed about it, and the fbi knew it was a hoax from the beginning...

so if they can run this kind of hoax on the american people why should i believe anything a leftist anti-trumper like sarah evanega has to say.
Remember all the opposition Trump had for firing these corrupt people? Thing is, this isn't even shocking - I was telling people even back then that Hillary had more ties to Russia than Trump and that they were in bed together and I am just using common sense. Just like all my liberal friends tell me that "Biden wanted the Ukrainian AG fired because he WASN'T investigating corruption and it had nothing to do with Burisma." - Use your common sense here. Burisma was KNOWN to be corrupt, even by other countries and the new AG that replaced him did not come in and investigate Burisma - so clearly Biden wasn't trying to get Burisma investigated. Oh, and the one guy who claims he was investigating? He was fired because Biden was withholding funds for his own personal gain. But Biden says that guy wasn't investigating so we should believe him. And when that AG says he was investigating him - well he's a disgraced AG (because Biden had him fired) so he obviously isn't credible.
 
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60 times more white supremacists in new zealand than US you should be more concerned with pulling that log out of your own eye-eh?
Looks like there's a lot of people in NZ that like to paint large groups of people as being the same based on a single characteristic, huh?
 
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I don't dislike Jo, but here is the issue. She is a negative influence. EVERY vote she gets is from someone who, if they didn't have her as an option, would vote for Trump. In other words, voting for her is taking your vote for Trump and flushing it down the toilet - which helps flush this country down the toilet as a Harris/Biden administration takes over.

A presidential term is only considered for term limits if it is longer than 2 years. She could be president for almost 10 years! Would you want to allow that? Come on man. Think!
That is complete and utter BS. I will never get this whole thing that is employed by both sides. Ive had both Dems and Reps tell me adamantly that voting for Jo is voting against their candidate. So which one of you two groups is correct? A vote for Jo is a vote for Jo. Nothing more, nothing less.

I would not be voting for Trump if she wasn’t an option, so my N=1 already disproves your initial premise that anyone who votes for her would be voting for Trump. And that doesnt mean I’d vote for Biden either, id rather not vote at all than vote for someone whose policies I disagree with (specifically 2A being the biggest one) in Biden or someone who I think is a complete embarrassment to the office which he holds.
 
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hey @Jiigzz you posted a quote from sarah evanega, you don't know anything about her or her organization do you?

her organization is funded by the bill and melinda gates foundation. gates is a sworn again anti-trumper....check out some of sarah evenega's tweets, lol....i think you should research your sources better, lol :unsure:
 
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That is complete and utter BS. I will never get this whole thing that is employed by both sides. Ive had both Dems and Reps tell me adamantly that voting for Jo is voting against their candidate. So which one of you two groups is correct? A vote for Jo is a vote for Jo. Nothing more, nothing less.

I would not be voting for Trump if she wasn’t an option, so my N=1 already disproves your initial premise that anyone who votes for her would be voting for Trump. And that doesnt mean I’d vote for Biden either, id rather not vote at all than vote for someone whose policies I disagree with (specifically 2A being the biggest one) in Biden or someone who I think is a complete embarrassment to the office which he holds.
Fair enough. The libertarian party shouldn't exist though. Not because I disagree at all with it - it is very closely in line with my views. It shouldn't exist because it is actually what republicans SHOULD stand for. But the problem is, you can't be a life-long politician AND a republican. The ideas are at odds with each other. Republicans should be for smaller government, but someone who has a livelihood that depends on gov't will obviously not ever try to eliminate their own position. I'm not saying that Trump is a good example of what the republican party could be either - but he's likely the only one who will beat Sleepy Joe and since most libertarians should be people who believe in ideals that are really republican ideals (before they were adulterated)...I would suggest that they are going to be mostly republican votes that won't be cast for Trump.

As you wouldn't be voting if she wasn't on the ballet, it is better to vote for her than no one.
 
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That is complete and utter BS. I will never get this whole thing that is employed by both sides. Ive had both Dems and Reps tell me adamantly that voting for Jo is voting against their candidate. So which one of you two groups is correct? A vote for Jo is a vote for Jo. Nothing more, nothing less.

I would not be voting for Trump if she wasn’t an option, so my N=1 already disproves your initial premise that anyone who votes for her would be voting for Trump. And that doesnt mean I’d vote for Biden either, id rather not vote at all than vote for someone whose policies I disagree with (specifically 2A being the biggest one) in Biden or someone who I think is a complete embarrassment to the office which he holds.
independent votes exceeded margins of victory in a total of 13 states, mostly blue wall states in 2016...statistics never tell a complete story unless you have ALL the numbers [and] know how to accurately interpret them, but with this limited data it looks to me that independent voters in 2016 helped trump by taking votes from clinton.

of course jill stein of the green party was more closely aligned with democrats in 2016.
 
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are you kidding me? people abroad are pissed off because trump isn't kissing their asses the way obama did-trump is telling them to pay up, you are full of shyt if you think they pity us-they are pissed off is what they are.

trump aint gonna do a apology tour like that ass obama did, and that is why they don't like trump--they want someone like obama kissing their asses.
Lol I dont see anyone being pissed.

 
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60 times more white supremacists in new zealand than US you should be more concerned with pulling that log out of your own eye-eh?
Still waiting for your source on this. You havent linked a single one yet. Until then, Proud Boys, Stand Back, Stand By!
 
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I don't dislike Jo, but here is the issue. She is a negative influence. EVERY vote she gets is from someone who, if they didn't have her as an option, would vote for Trump. In other words, voting for her is taking your vote for Trump and flushing it down the toilet - which helps flush this country down the toilet as a Harris/Biden administration takes over.

A presidential term is only considered for term limits if it is longer than 2 years. She could be president for almost 10 years! Would you want to allow that? Come on man. Think!



I do like that last one especially. There is some science there - a testable hypothesis with an observation through experimentation. The human body is, in fact, very specific in design and includes a nose and mouth for breathing. We can experiment on this by covering up a nose and mouth and watching if someone cannot breath without them. We can observe the outcome and determine if the hypothesis is likely or unlikely. That's science. Very true.

But, I would suggest we can also support that a mask actually DOES support breathing. In a number of situations I have seen it first hand. Experiment 1, which I have actually done, is to go into an old attic full of blown in cellulose insulation for hours without a mask while working - let's see how easy it is to breath and make an observation. Then do the same thing with a mask. My observation of this experiment, having done it, is that the mask supports both my immediate AND my medium-term ability to breath - and I would hypothesize my long-term ability as well.

Second experiment I have not run...firefighters in a burning building. Send them in without a mask. Lets see how that works out.

My conclusion, based on science, is that yes we have a nose and mouth and they are required for breathing. And yes, masks do support their function in both the short and medium term, as well as possibly long term. Further research is warranted. haha.

@Jiigzz You and I seem to be in a lot of agreement today :)
If I wasn’t voting for Jo I’d write in vote for Luna - the worlds cutest Dachshund and goodest gorl.
 
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Still waiting for your source on this. You havent linked a single one yet. Until then, Proud Boys, Stand Back, Stand By!
still waiting for you to prove me wrong...do your own research!!!


i suppose you deny you have white supremacists in new zealand-eh?
 
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hey @Jiigzz you posted a quote from sarah evanega, you don't know anything about her or her organization do you?

her organization is funded by the bill and melinda gates foundation. gates is a sworn again anti-trumper....check out some of sarah evenega's tweets, lol....i think you should research your sources better, lol :unsure:
Lol, so you saying you dont agree with anybody who has any kind of link to someone who disapproves of Trump?

How do you find anybody you do agree with with that kind of metric? Lol
 
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still waiting for you to prove me wrong...do your own research!!!


i suppose you deny you have white supremacists in new zealand-eh?
Burden of proof. Look it up. Not up to me to prove you wrong, up to you to back up erroneous arguments.

Classic Republican logic -

Other people: we dont have 60x more White Supremacists than the US

Republicans: so you deny having white supremacists?

Other people: *facepalm*
 
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Lol I dont see anyone being pissed.

lol...fiona hill? she was a obama hanger-on....she testified against trump at impreachment hearing and was discredited as a sour grapes EX-employee.

where do you find these losers, lol....i don't know what is worse being a big time loser like fiona hill or believing she has credibility
 
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If I wasn’t voting for Jo I’d write in vote for Luna - the worlds cutest Dachshund and goodest gorl.
This is a great point. Why don't all of the Biden voters just write in Kamala? I mean, that's who they're really voting for. I want to start a movement. Man up. Vote for who you want to vote for, not for a stuffed shirt they are hiding behind.
 
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lol...fiona hill? she was a obama hanger-on....she testified against trump at impreachment hearing and was discredited as a sour grapes EX-employee.

where do you find these losers, lol....i don't know what is worse being a big time loser like fiona hill or believing she has credibility
Noone has ever been discredited, Trump just says that about anybody who disagrees with him. He prefers people who get locked up
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And what a surprise, yet another source you disagree with because they dared go against dear leader
 
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Burden of proof. Look it up. Not up to me to prove you wrong, up to you to back up erroneous arguments.

Classic Republican logic -

Other people: we dont have 60x more White Supremacists than the US

Republicans: so you deny having white supremacists?

Other people: *facepalm*
'splc estimates 3000 active white supremacists in 2017, says number has likely grown by 47% since 2017'---so i went with 6000.


look it up.
 

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