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They've done studies with Aniracetam that have shown promise, but I don't think there is anything that is widely known to work. That would be a multi billion dollar miracle.
I wish there was something for it. My FIL lives with us and has it. We have a lot of open doors, running faucets, random things put in the fridge, random things thrown in the garbage, and find him wandering around a lot. Terrible way to go.
 
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Not a mental health or cognitive science expert so I may be way off...but it seems like quite the leap for people to take Bidens inability to debate and speak eloquently and coherently to unequivocally confirm that he has dementia.

Do people believe it or do they just love reiterating talking points against the man? Just like I don't think Trump has autism for the way he speaks at a 4th grade level, I dont think Biden has dementia for stumbling so often.

Why do I feel like I'm alone in this? lol
 
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Not a mental health or cognitive science expert so I may be way off...but it seems like quite the leap for people to take Bidens inability to debate and speak eloquently and coherently to unequivocally confirm that he has dementia.

Do people believe it or do they just love reiterating talking points against the man? Just like I don't think Trump has autism for the way he speaks at a 4th grade level, I dont think Biden has dementia for stumbling so often.

Why do I feel like I'm alone in this? lol
2012 vice president debate, you should watch it..it's on youtube.
 
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ok, here is my 1st prediction---what you witnessed last night was the 1st and last debate.....i think biden will use trump's aggressiveness against him as a excuse for not doing anymore debates.

2nd prediction---trump was awfully cocky last night even for him...i think he knows something is about to happen involving durham investigation.
 
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'biden was briefed about son's involvement, according to hunter biden burisma report'
 
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cnn's john king: 'hunter biden is a swamp creature trading in on family's name to make money'

geez, can't believe cnn let him say this?
 
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'comey says new information that hillary clinton drummed up russia controversy to villify trump doesn't ring a bell'

what happened to mr. i take notes?
 
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'comey claims ignorance of dossier details, carter page warrant: i don't know'


does this sound familiar---how about mueller claiming to have never heard of fusion gps
 
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biden says at debate he doesn't support green new deal, but his campaign site calls it 'crucial framework'

not only that but kamala harris was a co-sponsor of the green new deal, along with that cortez idiot.
 
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during her presidential run harris bragged about co-sponsoring the green new deal, medicare for all, decriminalizing illegal border crossings, and gun buybacks.

and this is who biden picked as running mate.
 
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i was watching david gilmour -shine on you crazy diamond-live at pompei on youtube--and right in the middle of song here comes stacie abrams pleading for democrats needing money---lol, i bet that pissed off more than a few people.
 
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Not a mental health or cognitive science expert so I may be way off...but it seems like quite the leap for people to take Bidens inability to debate and speak eloquently and coherently to unequivocally confirm that he has dementia.

Do people believe it or do they just love reiterating talking points against the man? Just like I don't think Trump has autism for the way he speaks at a 4th grade level, I dont think Biden has dementia for stumbling so often.

Why do I feel like I'm alone in this? lol
Watch his speeches from 10 years ago, I dunno if he has dimentia but he is certainly on a rapid pace of deterioration. I cant imagine how much worse he will be in 4 years playing out a full single term.
 
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Watch his speeches from 10 years ago, I dunno if he has dimentia but he is certainly on a rapid pace of deterioration. I cant imagine how much worse he will be in 4 years playing out a full single term.
the 2012 vice president debate is on youtube...doesn't even seem like the same guy.
 
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biden says at debate he doesn't support green new deal, but his campaign site calls it 'crucial framework'
Right. These two premises can co-exist
 
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The way I interpreted the white supremacy incident, dump said he would condemn them but he was asking for their names.

These are the days that the term "white supremacist" has been overused on various people and organizations unfairly, I mean after all there are alot of people calling Dump a white supremacist. So why should he vaguely condemn them? Who are the white supremesists? And who the hell is terrorizing cities and attacking people all across the country these days?

They really twisted this around and made it like Dump is on rescue mode, its comical how they try to manipulate the audience at home on certain media organizations.
 
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The way I interpreted the white supremacy incident, dump said he would condemn them but he was asking for their names.

These are the days that the term "white supremacist" has been overused on various people and organizations unfairly, I mean after all there are alot of people calling Dump a white supremacist. So why should he vaguely condemn them? Who are the white supremesists? And who the hell is terrorizing cities and attacking people all across the country these days?

They really twisted this around and made it like Dump is on rescue mode, its comical how they try to manipulate the audience at home on certain media organizations.
in 2007 core membership of nation of islam was estimated between 20, 000 and 50,000, splc estimated there were 3,000 active white supremacists in that same year....


trump should have asked biden to condemn farrakhan and nation of islam.
 
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'woman arrested for using 6 children to steal trump campaign signs, authorities say'

i wonder if the biden staff are going to post her bail?
 
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I think he just wants to slap his name on it to make it his own, maybe tweak it to his liking.
The costs of the bills are way different. Bidens is like $2T. GND is like $100T
 
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The costs of the bills are way different. Bidens is like $2T. GND is like $100T
lol...my son and his wife had a new home built 5 years ago-the estimated cost was $250,000, it ended up costing close to $400, 000.

if we are talking about gov spending 2trillion could easily end up being 100trillion...
 
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lol...my son and his wife had a new home built 5 years ago-the estimated cost was $250,000, it ended up costing close to $400, 000.

if we are talking about gov spending 2trillion could easily end up being 100trillion...
In that case 100 trillion would have end up being a godzillion, whatever comes after trillions, lol
 
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lol...my son and his wife had a new home built 5 years ago-the estimated cost was $250,000, it ended up costing close to $400, 000.

if we are talking about gov spending 2trillion could easily end up being 100trillion...
Sure and imagine what the government estimating $100T would cost lol.

Edit: yeah what Ax said!
 
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So I talked to my wife’s co-worker for the first time in a while, although she has been a lifelong Democrat in NY since gaining citizenship from Belarus, she is voting for Dump only because she can’t stand BLM anymore. Her husband is still voting for Groper though.
 
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So I talked to my wife’s co-worker for the first time in a while, although she has been a lifelong Democrat in NY since gaining citizenship from Belarus, she is voting for Dump only because she can’t stand BLM anymore. Her husband is still voting for Groper though.
just wait until he gets mugged in the subway....the husband will be a down the line republican, lol.
 
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So I talked to my wife’s co-worker for the first time in a while, although she has been a lifelong Democrat in NY since gaining citizenship from Belarus, she is voting for Dump only because she can’t stand BLM anymore. Her husband is still voting for Groper though.
Too busy to post 9n here lately, but wanted to say I know two people who I have NEVER thought would vote for anyone but a dem, and they have decided to vote for Trump. If Biden wasn't bad enough, they really don't like Kamala.

Loved when Biden said, "I am the democrat party right now." And Trump said, "That's not what Kamala says."

He was aggressive. Biden is pathetic. If he can't handle Trump, what do we think he is gonna do with Putin and other leaders who haven't given a flying monkey about America for decades. As belligerent as Trump was, who was calling the President a "clown" and telling the president to shut up?

Notice the only son Biden wanted to talk about was the one that gets him sympathy, and he continued to lie and say what Trump was saying is a lie. Like a corrupt Russian mayor didn't send Biden $3.5M. You want to worry about someone's debts....there is where you should look.
 
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Too busy to post 9n here lately, but wanted to say I know two people who I have NEVER thought would vote for anyone but a dem, and they have decided to vote for Trump. If Biden wasn't bad enough, they really don't like Kamala.

Loved when Biden said, "I am the democrat party right now." And Trump said, "That's not what Kamala says."

He was aggressive. Biden is pathetic. If he can't handle Trump, what do we think he is gonna do with Putin and other leaders who haven't given a flying monkey about America for decades. As belligerent as Trump was, who was calling the President a "clown" and telling the president to shut up?

Notice the only son Biden wanted to talk about was the one that gets him sympathy, and he continued to lie and say what Trump was saying is a lie. Like a corrupt Russian mayor didn't send Biden $3.5M. You want to worry about someone's debts....there is where you should look.
biden-i am the democrat party right now
trump-so did you ask portland mayor to put a end to the violence
biden-i am just a citizen
 
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. You want to worry about someone's debts....there is where you should look.
And you are more worried about that 3.5 than the unknown owner of the 350+ coming due on Trump?

Am I missing something broski? Lol
 
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Too busy to post 9n here lately, but wanted to say I know two people who I have NEVER thought would vote for anyone but a dem, and they have decided to vote for Trump. If Biden wasn't bad enough, they really don't like Kamala.

Loved when Biden said, "I am the democrat party right now." And Trump said, "That's not what Kamala says."

He was aggressive. Biden is pathetic. If he can't handle Trump, what do we think he is gonna do with Putin and other leaders who haven't given a flying monkey about America for decades. As belligerent as Trump was, who was calling the President a "clown" and telling the president to shut up?

Notice the only son Biden wanted to talk about was the one that gets him sympathy, and he continued to lie and say what Trump was saying is a lie. Like a corrupt Russian mayor didn't send Biden $3.5M. You want to worry about someone's debts....there is where you should look.
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And you are more worried about that 3.5 than the unknown owner of the 350+ coming due on Trump?

Am I missing something broski? Lol
MAGA people dont care about Trumps debts, only the left's.
 
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This is the kind of insanity Dump has to deal with, look at what this author of a so claimed book
called "How to be an Anti-racist" and historian commented on the Dump's Supreme Court nominee....So how can Dump address vague definitions of white supremacists when adopting orphans from Haiti is considered to be an act of white supremacy?

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MAGA people dont care about Trumps debts, only the left's.
The difference is Dump used the system handed to him as his advantage and Groper Joe used his position as VP to give his coke head son international connections for nothing other than being Groper Joe's son.

Im not saying Dump is good but the later is a much clearer case of direct government corruption by someone who has been in office since the roaring 20s.
 
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This is the kind of insanity Dump has to deal with, look at what this author of a so claimed book
called "How to be an Anti-racist" and historian commented on the Dump's Supreme Court nominee....So how can Dump address vague definitions of white supremacists when adopting orphans from Haiti is considered to be an act of white supremacy?

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Go to the 1:00 mark.

And didnt Trump call Haiti a s#!thole? Lol
 
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The difference is Dump used the system handed to him as his advantage and Groper Joe used his position as VP to give his coke head son international connections for nothing other than being Groper Joe's son.

Im not saying Dump is good but the later is a much clearer case of direct government corruption by someone who has been in office since the roaring 20s.
Hold on hold on, so Trump using the system = good, Biden using the system = bad?

I'm sure the entirety of Trumps family got their respective positions on their own merits and not because Trump is president. Yep. Definitely sure about that.

Got it. Makes 100% sense.
 
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And you are more worried about that 3.5 than the unknown owner of the 350+ coming due on Trump?

Am I missing something broski? Lol
Show me the actual info stating he has that issue coming due. I am not talking a news article with no hard facts and no witnesses that are willing to go on record.

But even still, yes, I am more worried about Biden having family members who make $3.5M from corrupt government officials than a business loan with someone who has assets coming due.

But hey, equal standards, Joe's son owes $3.5M to the Ukraine and Trump tried to investigate that, and Trump gets impeached for it. It becomes more and more obvious the Dems are dirty and making deals for personal gain, while in office, and you are worried about the deals Trump made when he was a private citizen more? You think the dollar figure matters?

Trump has the ability to finance that out I would bet. I bet I know family offices that would do it personally.

You should try watching the debate and not just reading the news interpretation. He literally asked the moderator what he wanted him to say, and got a vague answer and then did condemn violence and white supremecy.


Go to the 1:00 mark.

And didnt Trump call Haiti a s#!thole? Lol
Didn't Biden call poor people just as smart and just as Brite as white people?

Didn't Biden call black people "super criminals"? (Something he didn't even try to deny in the debates)

Didn't Biden say the Latino community has more diversity of thought than the black community?

Didn't Biden actively try to prevent desegregation?

Didn't Biden help pass laws targeting the black community and to prevent the black community from defending themselves in the early 90's?

Or was all this just gaffes and unintended consequences of well meaning legislation?
 
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Uhhh....probably because Haiti IS a shithole and has been for decades??
I was literally just thinking this. What I saw, that everyone interpreted as being rude, was Trump calling Biden on his lies in real time, cutting them off before they started and the media could run with it - which is part 1 of the typical media game plan. Run with the lies as if they must be true because our guy said it.

Part 2 of the game plan is to put out "fact checking" articles painting the opposition in a bad light. Haven't seen any of those from this debate really. Because Trump wasn't lying like Biden was. All they got was, "Trump is a meaner. He was so mean to me." Well, does he think this is about having tea and cakes with foreign leaders?

I have had people in business treat me worse than he treated Biden, if Biden can't control that situation...scary.
 
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Show me the actual info stating he has that issue coming due. I am not talking a news article with no hard facts and no witnesses that are willing to go on record.

But even still, yes, I am more worried about Biden having family members who make $3.5M from corrupt government officials than a business loan with someone who has assets coming due.

But hey, equal standards, Joe's son owes $3.5M to the Ukraine and Trump tried to investigate that, and Trump gets impeached for it. It becomes more and more obvious the Dems are dirty and making deals for personal gain, while in office, and you are worried about the deals Trump made when he was a private citizen more? You think the dollar figure matters?

Trump has the ability to finance that out I would bet. I bet I know family offices that would do it personally.
Idk if you're from NY/NJ but no one from here would loan Trump money for years. He **** on Atlantic City, wrecked local small construction companies by not paying out for work done and threatening to tie them up in courts, and then people think after spending all of his money he was bailed out by legitimate sources with a total profile of failing properties that are over leveraged....is this real life? It was literally called the Trump Effect in NYC with the infamous Deutsche Bank being the only ones who would touch him lol



And hell yes I think dollar figures matter, how could one not? You don't think the level of liability, desperation, and influence correlates with the amount you owe someone ??? If its a foreign influence ready to collect on 300M you don't think thats a gravely different situation than them collecting on 3.5?

Maybe you were simply asking based on principle?
 
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Idk if you're from NY/NJ but no one from here would loan Trump money for years. He **** on Atlantic City, wrecked local small construction companies by not paying out for work done and threatening to tie them up in courts, and then people think after spending all of his money he was bailed out by legitimate sources with a total profile of failing properties that are over leveraged....is this real life? It was literally called the Trump Effect in NYC with the infamous Deutsche Bank being the only ones who would touch him lol



And hell yes I think dollar figures matter, how could one not? You don't think the level of liability, desperation, and influence correlates with the amount you owe someone ??? If its a foreign influence ready to collect on 300M you don't think thats a gravely different situation than them collecting on 3.5?

Maybe you were simply asking based on principle?
No, I was asking based on logic. I don't know your financial situation, but for most Americans there is 0 difference in the desperation of owing $2M and $2B.

Further, Trump was a private citizen when he got those loans. It wasn't like he got them because someone was looking to use his power over Americans. Nobody will lend a private citizen that much money without collateral. Chances are, given the "Trump Effect" you have explained so well, he would have been luck to get a 60% LTV on his assets that he put up. Meaning if he doesn't pay it, they own his property and he loses his equity.

This is the problem with a typical American getting financial information like this, we just don't typically have the sophistication to understand how it works. I have a commercial real estate background and have been working on a $30M startup for the past year and the stuff I have learned makes my mind spin and I still don't understand it.

Biden's son, on the other hand, has no skills, no assets he put up, and he took money from a woman who had her money because her husband was a gov't official and the gov't signed a deal with her company. Shady beyond belief. A corrupt individual lending money to someone with no skills and no assets while their father is the VP of the US. If you think that is less desperation than Trump's supposed (still have no actual facts) position just because the dollars are bigger...I get where you are coming from but I think it isn't that simple.
 
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No, I was asking based on logic. I don't know your financial situation, but for most Americans there is 0 difference in the desperation of owing $2M and $2B.

Further, Trump was a private citizen when he got those loans. It wasn't like he got them because someone was looking to use his power over Americans. Nobody will lend a private citizen that much money without collateral. Chances are, given the "Trump Effect" you have explained so well, he would have been luck to get a 60% LTV on his assets that he put up. Meaning if he doesn't pay it, they own his property and he loses his equity.

This is the problem with a typical American getting financial information like this, we just don't typically have the sophistication to understand how it works. I have a commercial real estate background and have been working on a $30M startup for the past year and the stuff I have learned makes my mind spin and I still don't understand it.

Biden's son, on the other hand, has no skills, no assets he put up, and he took money from a woman who had her money because her husband was a gov't official and the gov't signed a deal with her company. Shady beyond belief. A corrupt individual lending money to someone with no skills and no assets while their father is the VP of the US. If you think that is less desperation than Trump's supposed (still have no actual facts) position just because the dollars are bigger...I get where you are coming from but I think it isn't that simple.
Won't even attempt to discuss the commercial real estate aspect, its a blind spot for me for sure. However I'd imagine just a basic EBITDA analysis of the businesses themselves wouldn't help with strong valuations to pay off the alleged debt due. Just my .02c

To your point, would 2B and 200B matter to the average American? Absolutely not, theyre buried either way. I think I mispresented my point though if this is where you think I was headed.

Say you're a foreign power trying to gain some influence and power within the US, would you rather our president owe you 300M or a former VP's son owe you 3.5? Which better serves your ulterior motive?

That is where my heads at with this mess.
 
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Haiti is a sh1thole....so whats ur point...
You could argue it's factually correct but it still shows just an overall lack of compassion for the leader of the free world. I'd imagine that's the issue most people take when he says things like this. Devoid of empathy, compassion, etc unless it may benefit him in some way (public optics, polling, etc).
 
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You could argue it's factually correct but it still shows just an overall lack of compassion for the leader of the free world. I'd imagine that's the issue most people take when he says things like this. Devoid of empathy, compassion, etc unless it may benefit him in some way (public optics, polling, etc).
or you could say he was just being honest-eh?


i don't think anyone would argue against haiti being a shythole, just ask hillary clinton and clinton foundation!!!!
 
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or you could say he was just being honest-eh?


i don't think anyone would argue against haiti being a shythole, just ask hillary clinton and clinton foundation!!!!
Right and I'm sure people would be happy to argue that point. I just prefer a certain level of tact in those who represent our country on a global stage, I may be an outlier there.
 
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Right and I'm sure people would be happy to argue that point. I just prefer a certain level of tact in those who represent our country on a global stage, I may be an outlier there.
everyone always talks about honesty but when you give it to them they whine like little snowflakes, lol.
 
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everyone always talks about honesty but when you give it to them they whine like little snowflakes, lol.
Is there not a way to be honest without calling someone's country a shithole? That's so interesting to me that you justify it by saying well, it was honesty and if you don't like it, you're a snowflake. Don't you find throwing out those labels to justify your own stance a bit lazy?

There's an infinite amount of other ways he could have more accurately stated what he meant, displayed some semblance of compassion, etc....and you chalk it up to honesty and the rest of us being snowflakes for wanting a leader with more depth than that? ugh lol Brutal man haha

Don't you think the commander in chief deserves to be held to a higher standard than that?
 

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