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Have any proof of that ACTUALLY happening aside from a Fox “investigation”? Looks like a click bait headline to me.
Google it. Can't do all the work for you guys...
 
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looks like the dustin honken execution is a go, not sure of the time but state police had all roads leading to the prison blocked off to thru traffic at noon when i went past there.
 
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looks like the dustin honken execution is a go, not sure of the time but state police had all roads leading to the prison blocked off to thru traffic at noon when i went past there.
Good. Bye Felicia!!!
 
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Google it. Can't do all the work for you guys...
No, you just post screenshots of clickbait headlines, have zero interest in whether the claims are actually true or not, and expect everyone else to do YOUR work for you (in verifying or disproving the boolsheet you post). Then, until someone does the disproving, you believe whatever bs you post and even continue to do so sometimes after that point. You resort grade school “responses” like “keep wearing your mask when you drive alone in your car” as if you were a damn child. And god forbid someone does provide you with factual information showing you why what you posted was incorrect, because you’re too stubborn and maybe willfully ignorant to accept that you said some dumb shît.
 
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No, you just post screenshots of clickbait headlines, have zero interest in whether the claims are actually true or not, and expect everyone else to do YOUR work for you (in verifying or disproving the boolsheet you post). Then, until someone does the disproving you believe whatever bs you post and even sometimes after that point, you resort grade school “responses” like “keep wearing your mask when you drive alone in your car” as if you were a damn child. And god forbid someone does provide you with factual information showing you why what you posted was incorrect, because you’re too stubborn and maybe willfully ignorant to accept that you said some dumb shît.
Nothing I have said has been proven factually incorrect...can you do the work to show me? Or, would you rather just keep posting rambling, run on paragraphs about me...?
 
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Nothing I have said has been proven factually incorrect...can you do the work to show me? Or, would you rather just keep posting rambling, run on paragraphs about me...?
I minorly edited my post above to hopefully provide some more clarity. There was a bit of a run on sentence there, youre right. Thank you, oh grammar lord.

@manifesto

Heres 1 example of where what you said was proven factually incorrect. After this you did actually admit you were incorrect, good for you buddy!

Numbers are going up due to increased testing....

The death rate in CA is .04 percent i believe.
.04%, I think you believe wrong, or missed at least one zero. There are over 7,000 deaths due to it in California. With a 0.04% death rate, you'd be looking at 17,500,000 cases, when they're reporting ~329,000 cases, which comes out to ~2%. Even if you assume that only 1/5 of the cases were actually reported/documented/confirmed, you're still looking at 0.5%.

For your number to be accurate, ~45% of California's population would have already have to have gotten the virus for your number to be accurate, which really, really sounds unlikely.

In summary, I think you mean 0.4%, not 0.04%.

Also, numbers are NOT only going up solely because of increased testing. Plenty of places/states/countries have the same increased testing capability and have no increases in cases, or even drastic decreases in new cases over time.

Please try to check your numbers before posting.
Here you try to draw a false equivalency between a pandemic killing off hundred(s) of thousands of Americans and a disease that is endemic to several third world countries and kills very few Americans annually.

2 million people died from Tuberculosis in 2019...how come no one was forced to wear masks for that?
In post 35401 you post a picture with the intent to minimize the seriousness of a disease that has killed nearly 570,000 humans in just over 7 months.

Here’s a quote from MUC showing im not the only one who apparently thinks you say some outlandish shît.

Shove that pill up your a**, you have zero idea what you’re talking about. Pretty much ever. Yeah, let’s take advice on a pandemic from someone who cant do basic math.
Yeah, it is misleading. You use the entire population of the country/world as the denominator. That's bad math. It assumes that literally every single person in the country/world already had the virus. You can't say the survival rate is 99.96% when most people haven't gotten it.

That's like saying the survival rate for 9/11 was 99.999%. Or that the odds of surviving a given car crash is 99.82%, because only ~606,000 out of 328,200,000 Americans die of it each year. You have to use people who had it as the denominator, not the entire population.

If you don't get that concept, and you call me a lost, little man, then man, you must have an amazing view from that glass house of yours.
^here MUC directly responds to the picture you posted that I alluded to above (post 35401)

Take the red pill buddy. You will be alright...

U voting Biden?
^here you resort to thinking someone is a democratic voter just because they tell you your posts are idiotic and void of fact whatsoever.
 
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Lots of different viruses cause the common cold, and different ones have greater effect in different seasons.

Rhinoviruses are more common in fall, spring and summer, whereas coronaviruses are more common in winter and early spring.
 
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Nothing I have said has been proven factually incorrect...can you do the work to show me? Or, would you rather just keep posting rambling, run on paragraphs about me...?
It's the responsibility of the asserter to provide the evidence for the claim, not for anyone else to disprove it.

That's how burden of proof works
 
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Let's say this is in fact true.

That's wrong, and misreporting should be investigated. While there may be scatterings of misreporting, there are hundreds of people dying everyday from Covid, so is the implication that ALL are misreported? The system will fail somewhere, but that doesn't mean it has always failed.

By the same token, innocent people get jailed all the time due to corruption, does that mean ALL incarcerations are of innocent people? Not likely. If we applied your logic, we should free all inmates because 1 of them was found to be innocent. Does that seem like the best course of action?

Let's also remember this is happening:

Where a Fox News lawyer states that people dont expect Tucker Carlson to report facts:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fox-news-tucker-carlson-facts-trump-playboy-model-a9573436.html

That's weird.
 
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Well.....you can also get yourself sick from contact and improper use which is something I witness all the time.

There still is self risk involved.
there aren't many things that don't involve some level of risk.
 
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dustin honken's was declared dead at 4:36pm. this marks the 3rd execution this week at the federal prison here in terre haute.

honken's last words were...'holy mary, mother of God, pray for me'.
 
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Google it. Can't do all the work for you guys...
Nothing I have said has been proven factually incorrect...can you do the work to show me? Or, would you rather just keep posting rambling, run on paragraphs about me...?
You do no "work," or, if you must call it work, no one would pay for it, given how often your math is objectively wrong, your underlying methodology for the calculations you decide to do are fundamentally flawed, and your claims contradict each other more often that not. Many things you said have been proven factually incorrect, or, at the very least, very misleading, using fundamentally flawed methodology and bad math to arrive at incorrect calculations. When you're not outright wrong, you're either being ignorant or disingenuous, you take your pick which you'd prefer to be.
You never answered my previous question. If the total number of cases are being exaggerated, yet the total deaths remain consistent, then the virus may be less common that believed/reported, but it would actually be more deadly.

Do you know what a fraction is man? The numerator is deaths. The denominator is cases (not the number of people in the country). If you leave the numerator the same and increase the denominator, the end result, which is the death rate, increases.

Given that none of the sources you're talking about talk about death counts, only positive cases, and also that the total number of excess deaths lines up almost perfectly with the reported deaths from the pandemic, and I conclude you really don't know what you're talking about.
 
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Let's say this is in fact true.

That's wrong, and misreporting should be investigated. While there may be scatterings of misreporting, there are hundreds of people dying everyday from Covid, so is the implication that ALL are misreported? The system will fail somewhere, but that doesn't mean it has always failed.

By the same token, innocent people get jailed all the time due to corruption, does that mean ALL incarcerations are of innocent people? Not likely. If we applied your logic, we should free all inmates because 1 of them was found to be innocent. Does that seem like the best course of action?

Let's also remember this is happening:

Where a Fox News lawyer states that people dont expect Tucker Carlson to report facts:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fox-news-tucker-carlson-facts-trump-playboy-model-a9573436.html

That's weird.
the last reporter i truly expected to tell me the truth was Walter Cronkite.

are there any actual reporters today?
 

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dustin honken's was declared dead at 4:36pm. this marks the 3rd execution this week at the federal prison here in terre haute.

honken's last words were...'holy mary, mother of God, pray for me'.
I’ll drink to that, as he’s dropping to the pits of hell. Good riddance.
 
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I’ll drink to that, as he’s dropping to the pits of hell. Good riddance.
i just read the victim's families statement, be fair to say they agree with you.
 
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the last reporter i truly expected to tell me the truth was Walter Cronkite.

are there any actual reporters today?
Ryan Grimm, Ken Klippenstein, Zaid Jilani, Glenn Greenwald...
 
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I minorly edited my post above to hopefully provide some more clarity. There was a bit of a run on sentence there, youre right. Thank you, oh grammar lord.

@manifesto

Heres 1 example of where what you said was proven factually incorrect. After this you did actually admit you were incorrect, good for you buddy!





Here you try to draw a false equivalency between a pandemic killing off hundred(s) of thousands of Americans and a disease that is endemic to several third world countries and kills very few Americans annually.



In post 35401 you post a picture with the intent to minimize the seriousness of a disease that has killed nearly 570,000 humans in just over 7 months.

Here’s a quote from MUC showing im not the only one who apparently thinks you say some outlandish shît.





^here MUC directly responds to the picture you posted that I alluded to above (post 35401)



^here you resort to thinking someone is a democratic voter just because they tell you your posts are idiotic and void of fact whatsoever.
Ok...so you pointed out a typo, and the opinions of someone with the same opinion as you. You still dont address what I posted that was factually incorrect.
 
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Lots of different viruses cause the common cold, and different ones have greater effect in different seasons.

Rhinoviruses are more common in fall, spring and summer, whereas coronaviruses are more common in winter and early spring.
I was addressing the fact that the number of cases is being misreported...not asking for clarification on the virua types...lmao
 
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walmart and kroger stores are requiring masks to enter stores starting next week....better late than never i guess.

if only this had been done 3-4 months ago?
There is still alot of doubt whether or not masks even help
 
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dustin honken's was declared dead at 4:36pm. this marks the 3rd execution this week at the federal prison here in terre haute.

honken's last words were...'holy mary, mother of God, pray for me'.
Good riddance.
 
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You do no "work," or, if you must call it work, no one would pay for it, given how often your math is objectively wrong, your underlying methodology for the calculations you decide to do are fundamentally flawed, and your claims contradict each other more often that not. Many things you said have been proven factually incorrect, or, at the very least, very misleading, using fundamentally flawed methodology and bad math to arrive at incorrect calculations. When you're not outright wrong, you're either being ignorant or disingenuous, you take your pick which you'd prefer to be.

You never answered my previous question. If the total number of cases are being exaggerated, yet the total deaths remain consistent, then the virus may be less common that believed/reported, but it would actually be more deadly.

Do you know what a fraction is man? The numerator is deaths. The denominator is cases (not the number of people in the country). If you leave the numerator the same and increase the denominator, the end result, which is the death rate, increases.

Given that none of the sources you're talking about talk about death counts, only positive cases, and also that the total number of excess deaths lines up almost perfectly with the reported deaths from the pandemic, and I conclude you really don't know what you're talking about.
Youre long winded as ****...and not proving anything still.. no wonder they call you"muck"
 
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@nostrum420 thinks that CHOP was a festival of love lmao
 
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Ah, that MUST be true if it's on Facebook.

For the record, I'm the head virologist of the world and I inject all newborns with coronavirus.
Plenty of hospital personnel saying similar things...people being counted twice for covid test...deaths being falsely reported as Covid cause of death. Open your eyes. Even CNN has reported on this.
 
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I was addressing the fact that the number of cases is being misreported...not asking for clarification on the virua types...lmao
Ok sure, but where's your better solution if the testing isnt working?

Do you expect 100% perfection for everything? Seems to be a double standard that any opposing view you have must be 100% perfect or it's wrong, whereas you can believe something that has more holes than swiss cheese lol.

Theres always going to be fault when you're testing millions of people. There will be misreporting. People dont need to fake tests. For some reason you make it seem like it's a lie in the US, yet hundreds of other countries are fighting the same virus. Even China, famous for its misreporting, has battled with thousands of deaths in Wuhan. Russia is struggling. Italy struggled. Spain struggled. Sweden tried the herd immunity approach and it pushed cases and deaths up incredibly high.

Is everyone in on it just for US politics? C'mon now
 
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Plenty of hospital personnel saying similar things...people being counted twice for covid test...deaths being falsely reported as Covid cause of death. Open your eyes. Even CNN has reported on this.
How do you know she's a real nurse? Because facebook told you she was?

I'm a student of Hogwarts on Facebook. I can be whoever I want to be on the internet
 
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Plenty of hospital personnel saying similar things...people being counted twice for covid test...deaths being falsely reported as Covid cause of death. Open your eyes. Even CNN has reported on this.

Interesting. That doesn't seem to be the case. Have you tried checking your bias?


And here as well. Weird. It's almost like you get your news from facebook.
 
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Is everyone in on it just for US politics? C'mon now
The radical left hates Trump so much, it would benefit them greatly to have covid cases high..this leads to government mandated shut down, and subsequent economic collapse.

Then they can blame Trump for the economy...and say he mishandled Covid. Then, they can sneak Biden in to office. Why don't you just worry about New Zealand politics..
 
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How do you know she's a real nurse? Because facebook told you she was?

I'm a student of Hogwarts on Facebook. I can be whoever I want to be on the internet
I am speaking of real life nurses that I personally know...
 
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Interesting. That doesn't seem to be the case. Have you tried checking your bias?


And here as well. Weird. It's almost like you get your news from facebook.
You used the CDC for support??? Lol

Whats next...using the W.H.O as a source
 
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Nah, you just never offer anything useful. Just a few one liners...then say you were busy with "work." Lol
Others have damn near written dissertations and you just keep Trump thumpin' along. You can't be bothered to show evidence but refute 🙈🙈🙈 everyone else's. At this point, one liners are about as much bandwidth as a debate with you is worth. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Youre long winded as ****...and not proving anything still.. no wonder they call you"muck"
Dude, multiple users have proven you to be both objectively wrong and/or misleading and drawing bad conclusions on multiple occasions. The irony of you saying other people haven’t proven anything would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
 
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Plenty of hospital personnel saying similar things...people being counted twice for covid test...deaths being falsely reported as Covid cause of death. Open your eyes. Even CNN has reported on this.
You do know that would mean the actual death rate is HIGHER than what it’s being reported as, right?
 
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What about Hilarys, what about Obamas...? Your a straight clown
*You’re. And it’s Hillary’s and Obama’s. Do you know what an apostrophe is? And no, it’s not a follower of Jesus. That would be an apostle.

Glad to know you’re just as bad at grammar as you are at math. ;)
 
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Others have damn near written dissertations and you just keep Trump thumpin' along. You can't be bothered to show evidence but refute 🙈🙈🙈 everyone else's. At this point, one liners are about as much bandwidth as a debate with you is worth. 🤷‍♂️
There’s at least 3 respected members here all saying he’s not the smartest wonton on the pu pu platter, yet he insists is all so clear, and we are all wrong.
 
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*You’re. And it’s Hillary’s and Obama’s. Do you know what an apostrophe is? And no, it’s not a follower of Jesus. That would be an apostle.

Glad to know you’re just as bad at grammar as you are at math. ;)
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