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DominATP/Refresh Feedback Thread

Hmmm... SOOOO happy I have this arriving at my door tomorrow curtosey of USP and NP! Now the question is if I get the same feeling that MrKleen did??? I will post my reviews from my Friday workout (or maybe Thursday if it gets here early enough) vs my own pre-workout and my experience with Jack3d.

Casey - I am getting in some 1,3-dimethylamylamine (1 gram) from NP and am considering adding a small amount to the DominATP preworkout with refresh, see any problems with this? Suggested amount of geranium to add for a small amount of stim? I am thinking 20-25 mgs.
 
Hmmm... SOOOO happy I have this arriving at my door tomorrow curtosey of USP and NP! Now the question is if I get the same feeling that MrKleen did??? I will post my reviews from my Friday workout (or maybe Thursday if it gets here early enough) vs my own pre-workout and my experience with Jack3d.

Casey - I am getting in some 1,3-dimethylamylamine (1 gram) from NP and am considering adding a small amount to the DominATP preworkout with refresh, see any problems with this? Suggested amount of geranium to add for a small amount of stim? I am thinking 20-25 mgs.

You could a scoop of Jack3d to it or I would add 30mgs of geranium to DominATP.
 
Thanks Jacob! I will do that and see how it goes witht eh geranium, fresh out of Jacked and already over my supp budget for July on day 1!!!
 
Thanks Jacob! I will do that and see how it goes witht eh geranium, fresh out of Jacked and already over my supp budget for July on day 1!!!

I would dose 4 caps of refresh with the geranium with DominATP...
 
I would dose 4 caps of refresh with the geranium with DominATP...

Will do and give a review of that methodology you suggested and also what DominATP is like for intra/post workout.
 
This looks VERY interesting...

Ok, so initial run of DominATP + Geranium + 4 refresh went well. I did not have my digital scale yet so I guessed on the Geranium (what to me was a tiny amount), oh I was wrong! Needless to say I was tearing through there but had a crash after from the over stim effect. Today I am going to fun it just as DominATP + 30 mg Geranium (now that I can measure this) + 4 refresh. I will report back how Chest and Abs goes today after a killer back/shoulders yesterday.

So far I really like the DominATP + Refresh combo and may add some ALCAR I have to it for some added energy/fat burning effect but not tonight since I want to isolate how it works with the controlled geranium dose Jacob suggested.

Post workout report from me and my friend:

Energy and stamina - 8.5
Focus - 10+ (Refresh is some great stuff, bulk powder FTW!)
Taste - 9
Feeling - Great mind muscle connection, great amount of Beta Alanine to get things going and put your mind right.
Pump - 9.5
Mixability - 5 (even in my shaker for 30+ seconds it is still hard to dissolve the Leucine but it is worth it in the end so not a deal breaker by any means)

The only pre-workout that is close to this is a good 2+ scoops of Jack3d. With the geranium at 30mg it is excellent energy and also great thermo feel and now it is 90 minutes after I drank it and I am not cracked out and no crash. USP, yet another great product!
 
Ok, so initial run of DominATP + Geranium + 4 refresh went well. I did not have my digital scale yet so I guessed on the Geranium (what to me was a tiny amount), oh I was wrong! Needless to say I was tearing through there but had a crash after from the over stim effect. Today I am going to fun it just as DominATP + 30 mg Geranium (now that I can measure this) + 4 refresh. I will report back how Chest and Abs goes today after a killer back/shoulders yesterday.

So far I really like the DominATP + Refresh combo and may add some ALCAR I have to it for some added energy/fat burning effect but not tonight since I want to isolate how it works with the controlled geranium dose Jacob suggested.

Post workout report from me and my friend:

Energy and stamina - 8.5
Focus - 10+ (Refresh is some great stuff, bulk powder FTW!)
Taste - 9
Feeling - Great mind muscle connection, great amount of Beta Alanine to get things going and put your mind right.
Pump - 9.5
Mixability - 5 (even in my shaker for 30+ seconds it is still hard to dissolve the Leucine but it is worth it in the end so not a deal breaker by any means)

The only pre-workout that is close to this is a good 2+ scoops of Jack3d. With the geranium at 30mg it is excellent energy and also great thermo feel and now it is 90 minutes after I drank it and I am not cracked out and no crash. USP, yet another great product!

Thank you very much for the feedback!
 
I was reading a post Mullet made on a pslin preworkout protocol and figured all I really need to do was amp my DominATP up with a scoop of WM and 400 mg of pslin. This is about an hour and a half after AP followed by my early evening meal. Very nice effects, you can really feel the nutrients soaking into your muscles. The BA tingle seems deeper for lack of a better explanation. This is now a staple process for me .. got me through some tough times. Oh and I add a scoop of Cyto Max as well.

So here is my recipe

14 oz water
3 scoops DominATP
1 scoop cytomax
1 scoop Waxy Maize
400 mg plsin

Try it you'll like it...
 
I am surprised DominATP/Refresh is still not out of stock at NutraPlanet: Invalid Link Removed. For that price, the combination is awesome value-for-money. Add Jack3d to that stack and you are unstoppable! :bandit:
 
No doubt Strategic! Added a 1/2 scoop of Jack3d per serving to my new DATP that I got from NP and will be running that for the six weeks on Prime for pre-workout. Gave it a try on Monday and let's just say my friend and I both had RIDICULOUS back workout and had energy in the tank do some some solid ab work at the end. Oh, and I noticed a really cool benefit of adding Jack3d, the leucine mixes in almost perfect this way.
 
DominATP has become my staple for prework out supplement love the stuff since i usually work out at nite its perfect for me. Especially since its such a simple and great amount of everything. Simple sometimes is just better. Only knock i have on it is wish i got more than 500 grams.
 
DominATP has become my staple for prework out supplement love the stuff since i usually work out at nite its perfect for me. Especially since its such a simple and great amount of everything. Simple sometimes is just better. Only knock i have on it is wish i got more than 500 grams.

The 1 Kilo DominATP would be awesome and I bet NP could sell it for only like a $3-5 discount and still move a ton of it.
 
The 1 Kilo DominATP would be awesome and I bet NP could sell it for only like a $3-5 discount and still move a ton of it.
Or just a 2 for 5 dollar discount however for now with the free Refresh I think it is an amazing deal. Especially knowing it has the 1250 mg Tribulosin in it. I didn't realize it until BoroBulker posted up the ingredients again. I was only taking it when I wanted to concentrate now it is going to be a staple with the DATP I can't wait to see the effects when taken regularly.
 
Or just a 2 for 5 dollar discount however for now with the free Refresh I think it is an amazing deal. Especially knowing it has the 1250 mg Tribulosin in it. I didn't realize it until BoroBulker posted up the ingredients again. I was only taking it when I wanted to concentrate now it is going to be a staple with the DATP I can't wait to see the effects when taken regularly.

When it first came out I jumped on it and bought 5. I still have 3 D-ATP left but the refresh is getting low and I have been using it sparingly. Now that I am on a more maintenance level on all other body parts besides chest I only need to use them once a week. I save it for the big workouts.
 
When it first came out I jumped on it and bought 5. I still have 3 D-ATP left but the refresh is getting low and I have been using it sparingly....
Quite a stash you had there! :D
 
More feedback? :D
 
Been using 2.5-3 scoops jack3d, 3 scoops dominATP and 6 refresh preworkout.

All I can say is very very solid combo. Great focus drive and energy. Tingle like crazy on the car ride to the gym. Jack3d always gets me sweating but this combo with the increased focus really makes me get warm.
 
Been using 2.5-3 scoops jack3d, 3 scoops dominATP and 6 refresh preworkout.

All I can say is very very solid combo. Great focus drive and energy. Tingle like crazy on the car ride to the gym. Jack3d always gets me sweating but this combo with the increased focus really makes me get warm.

Awesome! The tingling should cease as soon as carnosine stores are saturated. Do you take Refresh only pre-workout?
 
How am I supposed to try it when NP is out of stock?

It was a general call for feedback from those that had already used DominATP (before it went out of stock. :biglaugh:). Thank you, though, for drawing my attention to DominATP's inventory status. I will update this thread as soon as I have more information.
 
I'd love to give this stuff a try when it's back in stock.
Make it happen!!

Thanks! I'll update this thread as soon as I can say more about DominATP restocking.
 
Awesome! The tingling should cease as soon as carnosine stores are saturated. Do you take Refresh only pre-workout?

yeah only preworkout... but still tingling!!! I dont mind it one bit though.

The combo is very solid preworkout esp if you havent eaten in slightly over an hr. Dipping at the end of my workout. Made for some really nice hardcore workouts. Also musy say I am talking it with AI SWOLE stack: glycobol, stoked and testopro.
 
DominATP has become my staple for prework out supplement love the stuff since i usually work out at nite its perfect for me. Especially since its such a simple and great amount of everything. Simple sometimes is just better. Only knock i have on it is wish i got more than 500 grams.

500 grams is over 30 days at 29.99 it is a amazing deal...any cheaper it is charity.
 
500 grams is over 30 days at 29.99 it is a amazing deal...any cheaper it is charity.

DominATP at 500 grams for $29.99 is a very good price, add to it that you are getting Refresh for free... I heard they are selling a 2 pack for the special price of $59.98 and you get 2 free Refresh. ;)

Honestly I take more than the 3 scoops recomended, 2 scoops pre workout and 2 scoops intra-workout at my workouts and stretch it to about 6 weeks per container.
 
Never heard of these. Might have to jump on it.

Exclusive to the planet?

Yes the DominATP and Refresh are exclusive to Nutraplanet. Both products are top notch and I really enjoy what they bring to the workout.
 
DominATP profile looks mighty promising.

Fo' sho...

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DominATP Write-Up

Following the extremely successful debut of our stimulant pre-workout product, Jack3d, we received many requests from loyal USPlabs and potential customers requesting a solid and effective non-stim pre-workout formula with proven ingredients that could be stacked with Jack3d or any other stimulant containing pre-workout formula, that could be used solo during post-afternoon training sessions, or that could even be used on resting days. In effect, you asked for a potent non-stim pre-workout blend that combines not just proven ingredients at effective doses, but that is also affordable. We went to work and are proud to present you with our response: DominATP! Composed of carefully selected proven ATP synergists, anabolic and anti-catabolic cofactors, as well as hormone-modulating agents and recovery enhancers, at effective doses, DominATP is like nothing you have experienced before.
You will feel the impact hit you after the very first dose. From that point onwards, your dominant mode will be turned on, and you will demand nothing less than crushing your workout. And with the synergistic post-exercise recovery agents included, DominATP makes you look forward to your next workout! Every time! Your personal experience is your best feedback!

DominATP delivers:
  • Powerful triggering and modulation of protein synthesis and reduction of muscle degradation via proven synergistic anabolic and anti-catabolic agents
  • Significant boost in phosphocreatine synthesis, ATP regeneration, and VO2 max, for heightened strength and endurance
  • Dramatic improvements in muscular integrity, muscle contractions, and muscular capacity
  • Radical preferential stimulation of fast-twitch muscle fibers for explosiveness and power
  • Boost in mitochondrial respiration, oxygen utilization, aerobic and anaerobic capacity
  • Dramatically postponed onset of muscle fatigue and muscle failure
  • Enhanced secretion of growth hormone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone
  • Improved insulin response
  • Elevated endothelial nitric-oxide synthesis, vasodilation, and muscle fullness
  • Powerful antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, immune, and anti-aging support


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The ingredients:

DiCreatine Malate Creatine (methyl guanidine-acetic acid, or
N-(Aminoiminomethyl)--N-methylglycine) is a naturally occurring metabolite found in red muscle tissue. Creatine can be obtained from endogenous synthesis, from diet, and from supplementation. Endogenously, creatine is metabolized in the liver from the amino acids glycine, arginine, and methionine. It is then released into the blood stream to be absorbed into muscle cells. It can also be produced in small amounts by the kidney and pancreas, in exceptional cases. As the body is unable to synthesize adequate amounts of creatine and creatine phosphate
(phosphocreatine) during times of high-intensity exertion, creatine supplementation becomes crucial. It has a substantially well established status as a strength and endurance booster (via its role in adenosine triphosphate (ATP) synthesis), a cellular hydrating agent (or cell volumizer), an important lactic acid buffer, a body mass enhancer, as well as a post-exercise recovery agent. As it turns out, some users of standard creatine monohydrate experience bloats and gastro-intestinal problems. Bonding creatine to malic acid appears to solve these problems, while providing users with the accustomed benefits of creatine supplementation. In particular, DiCreatine Malate is a molecular bonding of creatine to malate, the salt form of malic acid, in an approximately
2:1 ratio that effectively supplies the body with adequate amounts of creatine, creatine phosphate and ATP.

Traditionally, malate has been molecularly bonded to minerals, amino acids, and vitamins to improve their stability, their absorbability, as well as their bioactivity. The same principle was realized in dicreatine malate, making this advanced creatine form more PH-stable, more soluble, and significantly more bioavalable than standard creatine monohydrate.
Furthermore, as a Krebs Cycle intermediate, malate not only acts as an effective carrier for creatine, but also directly supports the production of ATP, leading to improved VO2 max and energy metabolism in skeletal muscle cells and heart myocytes. Consequently, dicreatine malate offers a unique and synergistic fusion of ATP-promoting agents, creating a powerful compound for enhancing endurance, strength, and recovery.

The malate bond is significant for another reason. Malic acid is the only Krebs Cycle metabolite that is depleted during times of physical exertion, and is one of the first steps toward physical exhaustion. As a consequence, replenishing malic acid levels via dicreatine malate supplementation plays an incredibly significant role in ATP resynthesis and energy production. As we will see later, malic acid is also involved in important detoxification processes in the body, thereby ensuring more intense workouts, delayed fatigue and muscle failure, and optimal recovery.


Beta-Alanine
This compound needs little introduction. As is well known, Beta-Alanine (the only naturally occurring ß-amino acid) and L-Histidine form the bedrock for the synthesis of the compound L-Carnosine, a very powerful pluripotent dipeptide intricately involved in a variety of deep metabolic processes. Upon consumption or supplementation in sufficient quantities, carnosine is metabolized by the enzyme carnosinase into its precursor amino acids, beta alanine and l-histidine. After absorption into skeletal muscle cells, another enzyme, carnosine synthase resynthesizes carnosine into its constituents, beta alanine and l-histidine.

Why is this of any significance to athletes? First, so-called long-lived cells, for example, nerve cells (neurons) and muscle cells (myocytes) are known to contain high concentrations of carnosine, with the level of carnosine positively correlating with the capacity for high-intensity exercise performance as well as the maximum life spans of animal species. Now, let us take a quick look at muscle fibers. There are two broad types of muscle fibers in humans, Type I
(slow-twitch) with a limited growth capacity, and Type II (fast-twitch) with a high potential capacity for growth. Type I muscle fibers appear to be more prevalent. Although carnosine is also found in Type I muscle fibers, it is preferentially located in Type II muscle fibers responsible for explosiveness and power. This means that by deliberately increasing our cellular carnosine concentrations via supplementation, we can preferentially induce higher carnosine loads in Type II muscle fibers, thus stimulating their growth and our overall muscular capacity.

Furthermore, as is well known, high intensity exercise induces a rise in intracellular H+ (hydrogen ions) and lactic acid levels, signalling the onset of fatigue, muscle failure, and reduced performance. In this connection, carnosine not only acts as a powerful antioxidant in skeletal muscle cells, but also functions as a key pH buffer, inducing the neutralization of lactic acid, and protecting skeletal muscle cell membranes from oxidation within the acidic conditions of muscular exertion. These translate into delayed fatigue and enhanced performance, as well as improved muscular integrity and contractions (due to the activation of myofibrillar-ATPase enzymes responsible for muscle contractions), with carnosine supplementation. Relatedly, carnosine also supports more efficient heart-muscle contractions via the improvement of calcium response (high acidic levels reduce ATP efficiency and obstructs calcium release) in heart myocytes, leading to improved endurance.

To continue, carnosine inhibits the potent destructive actions of oxygen, proteins, lipids, glucose, and trace elements via its powerful anti-glycating, antioxidant, metal-chelating, and aldehyde-neutralizing properties. In particular, carnosine is known to induce a powerful neutralization of the most damaging free radicals, the hydroxyl radical, as well as the superoxide, singlet oxygen, and the proxyl radicals.
Relatedly, carnosine is also a powerful agent against the various causes of destructive protein modifications such as carbonylation, oxidation (including membrane lipid perioxidation), and advanced glycation end product (AGE) formation (the cross-linking of protein and glucose molecules to form non-functioning structures). Furthermore, high brain carnosine concentrations offer effective protection against excitotoxicity, trace-metal toxicity, and oxidation of cell membranes, including the inhibition of plaque formation caused by the cross-linking of amyloid-beta structures.

Why is all this relevant to Beta Alanine? Although carnosine is a chemical combination of beta alanine and l-histidine, beta alanine has been identified as the limiting factor in the synthesis of carnosine. Consequently, beta alanine supplementation is a proven effective approach for super-charging intra-cellular carnosine concentrations.
To summarize, Beta Alanine within DominATP provides you with a convenient and effective way to boost carnosine concentrations. So, with DominATP, you can reap the full benefits of carnosine supplementation that include boosting the synthesis of nitric oxide in endothelial cells for optimal muscle pumps; neutralization of lactic acid and H+ levels in skeletal muscle cells, leading to delayed fatigue, enhanced endurance, superior muscle contractions, and elevated energy levels; strengthening of heart myocytes for improved aerobic capacity and mitochondrial function; pushing your genetic potential by preferentially boosting the capacity of Type II myocytes, and consequently supporting the growth of quality lean mass; obtaining superior anti-oxidant, immune, and anti-aging support.


L-Leucine
L-Leucine is the most anabolic and anti-catabolic of the essential amino acids. It belongs to a class of essential amino acids known as branched chain amino acids (BCAAs). Besides leucine, BCAAs include l-valine and l-isoleucine. L-Leucine is known to be not only the most powerful amino-acid activator of muscle protein synthesis, but also a very potent substrate for the building and regulation of muscle tissue. In particular, l-leucine serves as the substrate for the endogenous production of the leucine keto-acid, alpha-ketoisocaproate (KIC) as well as ß-Hydroxy ß-methylbutyrate (HMB), two leucine metabolites with anabolic and anti-catabolic properties. Furthermore, l-leucine induces direct anabolic effects on protein metabolism via stimulation of an increased rate of protein synthesis, as well as a reduction of the rate of protein degradation, not only in inactive or resting human myocytes, but also in post-endurance-exercise recovery states. These results are postulated to occur via BCAA/leucine-induced alterations in the signalling pathways modulating protein synthesis, such as Mammalian Target of Rapamycin (mTOR) phosphorylation and 70-kD S6 protein kinase activation involved in specific mRNA translation.

Supplemental leucine is important because, relative to other amino acids, proportionately more leucine is degraded during high-intensity exercise. Without supplemental leucine, therefore, muscle protein breakdown would occur in extreme cases to compensate for the higher leucine needs induced by high-intensity training. This has implications for fatigue and focus. In particular, with the depletion of plasma BCAA/leucine levels during high-intensity exercise, the tryptophan:BCAA and tryptophan:leucine ratios rise. As a consequence, more tryptophan is shuttled to the brain by the amino-acid transporter (that usually also transports BCAAs/leucine, phenylalanine, and tyrosine), leading to higher production of serotonin, and consequently to mental fatigue and reduced concentration. This result is reversed by leucine supplementation.

Leucine also plays an important role in the elimination of ammonia in skeletal muscle cells, ensuring reduced muscle failure, less fatigue, and extended muscular capacity. Leucine displays the capacity to reduce the impact of an energy deficit on blood sugar levels via the reduction of liver, muscle, and brain glucose metabolism. As a consequence, during periods of leucine supplementation, performance is not severely compromised during periods of low carbohydrate consumption.

So leucine kick-starts protein synthesis, and acts as a substrate for building lean mass; preserves muscle mass from degradation; reduces the onset of fatigue; supports the elimination of ammonia in skeletal muscle tissue; protects blood sugar levels during carbohydrate deficit; and supports the addition of lean muscle tissue.


Citruline-Malate
A non-essential amino acid, citrulline is synthesized in the mitochondrial matrix from ammonia, carbon dioxide, and ornithine. The energy required for this reaction is supplied by adenosine triphosphate (ATP). More precisely, ammonia and carbon dioxide are converted to carbamoyl phosphate, which then produces citrulline by reacting with ornithine. Citrulline is a key substrate in the production of the amino acid l-arginine in the cytosol. Citrulline malate is a powerful ergogenic derived as a chemical combination of citrulline and the salt of malic acid known a malate, a Krebs-Cycle intermediate. Malic acid has been shown to be a key substrate for energy production during both aerobic and anaerobic conditions. In particular, malate is oxidized to oxaloacetate in aerobic states, providing reducing equivalents within the context of the mitochondrial malate-aspartate redox shuttle.

In anaerobic states, malic acid can be simultaneously reduced to succinate (also a Krebs-Cycle intermediate) and oxidized to oxaloacetate, leading to a reduction of accumulating reducing equivalents. What does this mean? Malic acid can dramatically boost energy production and endurance by reversing mitochondrial dysfunction induced by hypnoxic (inadequate oxygen supply) states, without any increase in carbohydrate and oxygen use. Furthermore, a deficit in malic acid has been shown to be an important cause of physical exhaustion.
More specifically, supplementation with malic acid directly enhances mitochondrial malate levels, elevates mitochondrial respiration, and ultimately boosts mitochondrial energy production and adenosine triphosphate (ATP) formation. This leads to preservation of muscle mass, as malic acid needs would otherwise (that is, without direct
supplementation) be met by increased synthesis of malic acid via gluconeogenesis and the breakdown of muscle protein.

Intense physical exertion leads to the breakdown of muscle proteins, producing ammonia as a by-product. The produced ammonia either accumulates in muscle cells or in the liver, with a potential for toxicity. As it turns out, this ammonia combines with ornithine and carbon dioxide in the mitochondria to form citrulline, which is ultimately converted to arginine, making citrulline an important substrate for ammonia detoxification and elimination. The hydrolytic enzyme arginase produces urea in the liver from the guanidino group of arginine and other substrates. Urea is excreted from the kidney as urine.

So, citrulline malate, due to its unique composition, is a key substrate for boosting ATP synthesis and creatine-phosphate levels, and consequently for generation of mitochondrial energy, leading to improved aerobic and anaerobic capacity and significantly improved endurance.
Furthermore, by elevating plasma levels of arginine and ornithine, citrulline malate favourably influences nitric oxide synthesis, ultimately inducing significant elevations in endothelial-cell function and vasodilation and reducing accumulated levels of lactic acid. The reduction in lactic acid and hydrogen ion levels, as well as the detoxification of ammonia ultimately support more intense and extended muscular exertion, delay the onset of fatigue, increase muscular capacity with reduced muscle failure, and support rapid recovery from high intensity exercise.


Agmatine Sulfate An endogenous guanido amine synthesized from the decarboxylation of l-arginine by arginine decarboxylase in brain and other tissue, agmatine is a widely distributed multifunctional compound involved several metabolic processes such as selective nitric-oxide synthesis, neuroprotection and neuromodulation, modulation of pituitary peptide hormone synthesis, anti-inflammatory and antioxidant support, catecholamine metabolism, N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor antagonism, insulin metabolism, and so on.

But what does all this mean for the bodybuilder and fitness enthusiast? By inducing a significant increase in endogenous nitric oxide levels, by stimulating the secretion of gonadotropins such as luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone by the pituitary gland, by supporting the release of growth hormone, by modulating the body’s insulin response, by producing an anti-glucorcorticoid effect, by acting as a potent anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, and immune-system enhancer, agmatine supports an incredibly fertile environment for inducing amplified anabolic effects and anti-catabolic effects that include improved protein synthesis, building of lean mass, inhibition of muscle breakdown, increased strength and endurance, as well as rapid recovery from high-intensity exercise.


That was DominATP for you. You asked for it, we delivered. We invite you to challenge DominATP. Once you do that, we are sure you will find a new training partner in DominATP!

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Running through this stuff like a champ and lovin it!!!

Yesterday 35min pre leg workout:
3scoops dominATP
9 refresh
4scoops jacked

I was so amped when I hit the gym... Definately tops after a long day at work.

Been mixing the dominATP 3scoops with my vitargo post workout too.

I love USPowders!!!
 
Running through this stuff like a champ and lovin it!!!

Yesterday 35min pre leg workout:
3scoops dominATP
9 refresh
4scoops jacked

I was so amped when I hit the gym... Definately tops after a long day at work.

Been mixing the dominATP 3scoops with my vitargo post workout too.

I love USPowders!!!

ohh yeah also throwing in 10g glutamine with the postwo
 
Running through this stuff like a champ and lovin it!!!

Yesterday 35min pre leg workout:
3scoops dominATP
9 refresh
4scoops jacked

I was so amped when I hit the gym... Definately tops after a long day at work.

Been mixing the dominATP 3scoops with my vitargo post workout too.

I love USPowders!!!


HOly cow that is insane..

How about dropping to 5 refresh and 2 scoops Jack3d? I would bet you would have a better workout.
 
HOly cow that is insane..

How about dropping to 5 refresh and 2 scoops Jack3d? I would bet you would have a better workout.

did it again today on shoulders and had the most stellar workout again... So focus and locked in and feel like I am the only one in a crowded gym... Gives a great mind muscle focus. Really zone into what your doing.
 
did it again today on shoulders and had the most stellar workout again... So focus and locked in and feel like I am the only one in a crowded gym... Gives a great mind muscle focus. Really zone into what your doing.

add 3 Prime and 3 Powerfull to that...I dare you!
 
add 3 Prime and 3 Powerfull to that...I dare you!

I am actually taking it glycobol with preworkout meal, then second dose of igf2 (3 pills), testopro (2 pills), stoked (2 pills)
:)

if you want to send me some new bigger prime, powerfull and AP... Be glad to switch and compare :)
 
Running through this stuff like a champ and lovin it!!!

Yesterday 35min pre leg workout:
3scoops dominATP
9 refresh
4scoops jacked

I was so amped when I hit the gym... Definately tops after a long day at work.

Been mixing the dominATP 3scoops with my vitargo post workout too.

I love USPowders!!!


What kind of car you drive?

















I call dibs for when you keel over. :D
 
Your dosing protocol. That's a ****ton of stims.

I beg to differ... Jacked has the stim on them... I guess refresh might but the recommended dose has been 6 so I am at 1.5x dose.

I drink no caffine all day any day until preworkout.
 
I beg to differ... Jacked has the stim on them... I guess refresh might but the recommended dose has been 6 so I am at 1.5x dose.

I drink no caffine all day any day until preworkout.

Dang, I thought the recomended dose was 3, maybe I should try 6. No there are not any stims in Refresh by the way Poison however it does stimulate the thyroid increasing metabolism. Only stims there are in the Jack3d. I would be flying off of 4 scoops though....
 
Word on the streets is that only 30 or so units left of DominATP/Refresh combo the best non stimulating pre workout pump, endurance, focus product on the market...

Once it is gone it is gone for a while.....
 
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