Ok lets step back and look at the big picture. I undertand that you want to voice your opinion, however you do tend to be (or seem to be) somewhat close minded at times. Joe this is a fact ... different people have different reactions to the same herb... accept it. I will defend your right to be able to convey your personal experience about a product. Just don't take your personal experience and try to reflect it on others. It's offensive. Nobody will get upset if you just simply state "Prime does not work fore me" but will get irked if you say "Prime does not work for me" therefore "does not work for anybody". The only thing you really know is that it does not work for you, which I believe wholeheartedly. Too bad it's a great supp, there are others out there though that may work better for you.
Now for anyone else who hasn't tried Prime ... well you will never know untill you do. Joe tried it, it didn't work for him. I tried it, it worked very well for me. Now it's up to you if you want to take the risk. Not too complicated really.
Good points, but things would never escalate the way they do if USPLABS doesn't jump onto the threads and start e-thuggin'. But again, this is how they do most of their advertising through threads like this. Prime may work for some, it didn't much of anything for me. At first I thought it was helping, but when the same progress continued after I dropped it, I realized it was really doing nothign for me. The price to me is way high, but some may find it a bargain. My biggest problem with their products is their marketing tactics and their attitude towards anyone who dislikes their products.
Howdy, Adams?Hahaha... dude.. this thread is hilarious. Man, I always get a kick out USPLabs responses to possible consumers....
Howdy, Adams?
Good points, but things would never escalate the way they do if USPLABS doesn't jump onto the threads and start e-thuggin'. But again, this is how they do most of their advertising through threads like this. Prime may work for some, it didn't much of anything for me. At first I thought it was helping, but when the same progress continued after I dropped it, I realized it was really doing nothign for me. The price to me is way high, but some may find it a bargain. My biggest problem with their products is their marketing tactics and their attitude towards anyone who dislikes their products.
Hahaha... dude.. this thread is hilarious. Man, I always get a kick out USPLabs responses to possible consumers. Is that you Michael Eisner?
Adams
It absolutely amazes me how the owner of USP can act the way you do. You have no respect for anyone except people who like your products. God forbid someone negatively comments on your product....
Do you notice how only USP gets into these types of threads? Its because other companies have real reps who understand how to treat potential customers. I will give credit to your one and only rep who really should probably run your company since you obviously have difficulties with customer relations. Mullet is your only saving grace.. Notice how he doesn't get into these d1ck measuring threads? Only you do and your other sidekick.
Hey, if you truely believe(and not just acting dumb) the dude that posted this thread is a possible consumer, I have some ocean front property in Arakansa to sale you.
Hey, if you truely believe(and not just acting dumb) the dude that posted this thread is a possible consumer, I have some ocean front property in Arakansa to sale you.
Hey, if you truely believe(and not just acting dumb) the dude that posted this thread is a possible consumer, I have some ocean front property in Arakansa to sale you.
Mullet wouldn't of been as kind.
Now Joebo, Go to page 1 of this thread and who summons you into this thread?
You started the D1ck measuring with post number 7. You have way to much time on your hands.
actually, i was ass hole. now i will never buy anything from you guys again, and i wont allow your products to be promoted on other boards due to your barbaric behavior.
Dude just let it go I feel like I'm back in highschool
Some saw the link... Funny read though... USP confronted by PA and then runs away from answering questions...
THAT explains everything...:sleeping:
Can't post links, sorry....
PA called Jacob out on lying about growing and extracting all their herbs. Got called out on his studies. USP makes bold claims, but when called out by people who are smarter and understand the business they seem to quiet up real quick and run away...
They own manufacturing facilities and growing fields in India, yet they have a rented storage locker for stock??
Can't post links, sorry....
PA called Jacob out on lying about growing and extracting all their herbs. Got called out on his studies. USP makes bold claims, but when called out by people who are smarter and understand the business they seem to quiet up real quick and run away...
That's not what I see, Jacob and UspLabs are a valueable asset to the industry. Patrick is smart, knows his stuff but is the most unobjective person in the business. There isn't a company other than his own that he hasn't gone after. He's lost too much credibility... funny that you would use someone 10 X more confrontational than Jacob as a reference but at the same time get down on Jacob for being confrontational with you. Also I get the impression that Patricks area of expertise lies more with steroids than herbal products. I could be wrong as I am an expert in neither.
Jacob can be a little sensitive, but if I put myself in his position I don't know if I can remain as calm as he does.
Anywho .. bottom line Prime works...Jut not for everyone. I thought we'd gone over this....
PA is very confrontational, but typical backs up everything he says with science. He posted pictures of his manufacturing facilities.....
He's just too negative for me ... I left bb.com in 2002 to get away from that. Oh yah he used to bash us back then too. Didn't seem to like the Homebrew crowd mutch. Patrick doesn't seem to like his competitors on general, which in my mind means lack of objectivity. Some people thrive on the negative, I'm just glad I don't have to anymore.
I read through the thread at M&M and PA was asking legitimate questions and Jacob came out like a punk running his mouth and completely avoided the questions and then disappeared from the thread. Plain and simpleThat's not what I see, Jacob and UspLabs are a valueable asset to the industry. Patrick is smart, knows his stuff but is the most unobjective person in the business. There isn't a company other than his own that he hasn't gone after. He's lost too much credibility... funny that you would use someone 10 X more confrontational than Jacob as a reference but at the same time get down on Jacob for being confrontational with you. Also I get the impression that Patricks area of expertise lies more with steroids than herbal products. I could be wrong as I am an expert in neither.
Jacob can be a little sensitive, but if I put myself in his position I don't know if I can remain as calm as he does.
Anywho .. bottom line Prime works...Jut not for everyone. I thought we'd gone over this....
USP Labs stated this:
PRIME will destroy 11-oxo, 6-oxo, extreme and whatever else the hell you have in terms of buiding muscle and increasing performance.
I was just curious when this destruction was going to happen???
lol, and i suppose prime adds on average 7.5 pounds of lean muscle mass just like their study says...
its also more powerful than d-bol!
Thank you very much, DreamWeaver, for your support. This thread has long lost any semblance of substance, so continuing to make contributions here is akin to pissing in the ocean. You have made your points very succinctly, and convincingly for open-minded individuals. Looking forward to seeing your log update. Thank you so much! :cheers:
this was jacobs first response to the threadbb.com is full of reps from other companies who are SOLELY instructed to bash other companies. Walk into a GNC and Vitamin Shoppe and just ask about USPlabs.
Ask about USPlabs every where but bb.com or a board run rampant with company reps and you will recieve the opposite answer.
With growth comes hate...
lol, and i suppose prime adds on average 7.5 pounds of lean muscle mass just like their study says...
its also more powerful than d-bol!
Its amazing what response you get when said person recieves free products for doing so
Not saying he is not necessariy being truthful, but def biased
Thank you very much, DreamWeaver, for your support. This thread has long lost any semblance of substance, so continuing to make contributions here is akin to pissing in the ocean. You have made your points very succinctly, and convincingly for open-minded individuals. Looking forward to seeing your log update. Thank you so much! :cheers:
its not just company reps...
and ppl who work at gnc or vitamin shop dont know anything.
I used it and did get a very slight effect, however, not worth the price tag. You can not go against USP on this board because you will be wrong. You will find more positive reviews here, only because its hyped much more and the placebo can be amazing. I say a USP lab products sucks and suddenly I'm the anti-christ. Its historical. The point to go into GNC and ask them.... Great some 17 year old idiot who is pushing anything to get a commission. Based on that analysis USP and MuscleTech product must be of equal quality... There are some great companies on here, but there are some whose heads are way too big...
My opinion.. PRIME is not worth the money..
Bring on the flaming by USPLABS
Its amazing what response you get when said person recieves free products for doing so
Not saying he is not necessariy being truthful, but def biased
You have taken this to a juvenile level.
People should just ignore you always. You cannot debate ignorance.
Anyone with logic will listen to Dreamweaver or Doug Miller over a kid with no knowledge of supplementation, nutrition or exercise. You enjoy gossiping and some men do.
What do you contribute to AM besides ranting and raving? Serious question.
In all fairness, DW does come off as a huge "fan boy" and Doug is sponsored.
In all fairness, DW does come off as a huge "fan boy" and Doug is sponsored.
LOL.
like i said in the beginning of the thread, i wanted to see unbiased ppl here report their honest results. on this board, it seems as though the people who do report these amazing results are very biased and might be affiliated. but hey, i have no idea, thats just my perception. it just seems like some of the responses are pre-written testimonials.
thanks to those who did respond including dw and others who did happen to like prime.
and for those who report increased recovery...there is another ingredient in prime (cellmend) which may lead to increased recovery.
Hey I am also a fan of Napalm and Lipoderm... running them in my current log...I'm a fan of supps that work. I like some AppNut products .. Anabolic Innovations. Prime is the supp that has worked best for me so will run it as a staple. 8 on 4 off 12 on 4 off along those lines. I am also quite excited about T911 coming out I hear good things. Oh yah thanks I am "Huge" thanks to Prime...:wave2:
That's exactly what I was talking about.
Well I don't know you very well so don't know how to take that. Is it wrong to like supps that work well for you and when asked to share your experiences. You seem to be looking to throw a negative spin on it. Maybe not. If that's what a "Fan boy" is .. guilty as charged....
You have taken this to a juvenile level.
People should just ignore you always. You cannot debate ignorance.
Anyone with logic will listen to Dreamweaver or Doug Miller over a kid with no knowledge of supplementation, nutrition or exercise. You enjoy gossiping and some men do.
What do you contribute to AM besides ranting and raving? Serious question.