Unanswered does 12.5 mg of Clomid every day for 6 weeks cause visual sides??

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coming off of a TRT-esque cruise. just 120 mg a week. I was suggested hcg at 1500 IUs for 2 weeks as the test tapers off then clomid at 12.5 mg every day for 6 weeks. Im nervous about visual sides. I know this is a low dose though.

does clomid give visual sides at this dosage? I know everyone is different. If so, any suggestions for an alternative?red Torem?
 
Have you tried Clomid before? If not it’s no way of knowing if you’ll get visual sides from it. I love Clomid and surprised ppl get sides from it, I feel great on it!
 
I feel awful and get the vision at 20mg a day. Have to see how you react.
 
BBiceps said:
Have you tried Clomid before? If not it’s no way of knowing if you’ll get visual sides from it. I love Clomid and surprised ppl get sides from it, I feel great on it!
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I have, but UGL. no issues with vision, just depression. I have Pharma now. so no idea
 
Not for me,I would say no but anything is possible
 
jiu jitsu said:
I have, but UGL. no issues with vision, just depression. I have Pharma now. so no idea
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If you didn’t before you most likely won’t this time either, the depression might come from something else, you’ll be fine, Clomid is great!
 
Anyone get intense cramping?
 
BBiceps said:
If you didn’t before you most likely won’t this time either, the depression might come from something else, you’ll be fine, Clomid is great!
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Some people do get depression from Clomid.
 
I love clomid. Never had any issues. Not from 100mg's, 50 or 25. Must be a very individual thing.
 
BBiceps said:
Idk, I think the depression comes from not being on cycle anymore, but, I’m no expert
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IMO, it can come from both.
Some guys can't even take Clomid.
 
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90mg Toremifene daily will be just as effective and side free. Nolva at 20mg slightly stronger but it’s worse for you. Either would be good options.
 
I was getting blurry trails after about 3 weeks on 20 only a few times a day, went away once I stopped, probably won't take it again. Most people don't get it from what I have read.
 
Hyde said:
90mg Toremifene daily will be just as effective and side free. Nolva at 20mg slightly stronger but it’s worse for you. Either would be good options.
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why is nolva worse??
 
Zippy said:
I was getting blurry trails after about 3 weeks on 20 only a few times a day, went away once I stopped, probably won't take it again. Most people don't get it from what I have read.
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what would you recommend instead?
 
Hyde said:
More hepatoxic; liver will have to work harder to metabolize it - not a big deal if you’re healthy, but it’s a consideration.
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So this is inherently more toxic than ones cycle, depending what they ran? (I just finished EpiAndro and 1 andro)
 
Btw I got blood work back today, when I did the bloods I had been taking 25mg ed of Clomid for 8 weeks, my test levels was 1100!
 
BBiceps said:
Btw I got blood work back today, when I did the bloods I had been taking 25mg ed of Clomid for 8 weeks, my test levels was 1100!
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Could you feel your levels that high? Thru libido, strength/workouts, well being?
 
Rad83 said:
Could you feel your levels that high? Thru libido, strength/workouts, well being?
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Yeah I felt pretty great, strength was going up, body got tighter, I’m naturally in the high 400’s so it’s a pretty big jump. Like I said before, I think Clomid is great!
 
BBiceps said:
Yeah I felt pretty great, strength was going up, body got tighter, I’m naturally in the high 400’s so it’s a pretty big jump. Like I said before, I think Clomid is great!
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Clomid from what I understand stays in your system for multiple days. Wonder what would happen if you switched to 25mgs eod for a month? Would be interested to see those labs?
 
beefyfan said:
Clomid from what I understand stays in your system for multiple days. Wonder what would happen if you switched to 25mgs eod for a month? Would be interested to see those labs?
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Next time I do labs I might try that, I actually usually do eod after those first 8 weeks of ed, so I just do labs later next time.
 
Rad83 said:
So this is inherently more toxic than ones cycle, depending what they ran? (I just finished EpiAndro and 1 andro)
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Don’t worry about it. 4-6 weeks of Nolva isn’t going to be an issue for someone without liver disease.

But if you’re running it months at a time, like a low dose through a 12-week injectable cycle to control gyno, a couple times a year, that’s a lot of time on Nolva. Toremifene or Raloxifene would be much safer options for that.

Ralox is the weakest from a restart perspective, and most expensive. Nolva is strongest and cheapest, Toremifene is nearly as good, and Clomid is as good if blasted at levels nobody takes due to feeling like a little girl at 100mg daily.

Clomid works fine at 25mg ed, but it won’t protect against gyno like Nolva and Torem.

beefyfan said:
Clomid from what I understand stays in your system for multiple days. Wonder what would happen if you switched to 25mgs eod for a month? Would be interested to see those labs?
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Studies have shown after periods of treating with 25mg ed when doctors had patients switch to 25mg eod there levels were basically maintained. Once you get things up with Clomid, you can maintain on a half dose, based on study findings. At least for a few months as I recall.
 
danielvp said:
I still have a floater in the middle of my vision from taking torem 8 months ago, not fun...
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Floaters should move around as they are located in the liquid part of the eye. If it’s in the middle of your vision get it looked at ASAP, could be retinal detachment. Especially if it’s a black spot
 
ChocolateClen said:
Floaters should move around as they are located in the liquid part of the eye. If it’s in the middle of your vision get it looked at ASAP, could be retinal detachment. Especially if it’s a black spot
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I will probably get it checked out then, but it looks like a clear worm.
 
This is scary but great feedback. It means either that Torem can give visual sides (which I was unaware of) or shady RCs are packaging Clomid as Torem for more money.
 
Hyde said:
This is scary but great feedback. It means either that Torem can give visual sides (which I was unaware of) or shady RCs are packaging Clomid as Torem for more money.
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Damn. Might have to bail on my pct 2 weeks in... hopefully i recover..
 
danielvp said:
I still have a floater in the middle of my vision from taking torem 8 months ago, not fun...
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Check out eye drops called Can-C. They have been touted to reduce floaters over time. It takes 6-12 months, but it may a better option than surgery or laser treatments. I use it to keep my myopia from getting worse. It does help in my opinion.
 
Hyde said:
This is scary but great feedback. It means either that Torem can give visual sides (which I was unaware of) or shady RCs are packaging Clomid as Torem for more money.
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It was from pure rawz, and yes I suspect it may have actually been clomid. Will never buy from them again. Other sides I had: mood swings, headache, nausea, and I started getting flu like aches in my legs, scared the **** out of me and I bailed on my pct by day 4. Good thing I'm young and my nuts want to live.
 
GHopkins said:
Check out eye drops called Can-C. They have been touted to reduce floaters over time. It takes 6-12 months, but it may a better option than surgery or laser treatments. I use it to keep my myopia from getting worse. It does help in my opinion.
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Thank you, I will look into these eye drops.
 
danielvp said:
It was from pure rawz, and yes I suspect it may have actually been clomid. Will never buy from them again. Other sides I had: mood swings, headache, nausea, and I started getting flu like aches in my legs, scared the **** out of me and I bailed on my pct by day 4. Good thing I'm young and my nuts want to live.
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How long did it take you to bounce back
 
jiu jitsu said:
How long did it take you to bounce back
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I never felt shut down on that cycle or got bloods, so I couldn't tell ya. It was just a short 6 week rad-140 cycle. What kind of cycle are you PCTing from?
 
danielvp said:
I never felt shut down on that cycle or got bloods, so I couldn't tell ya. It was just a short 6 week rad-140 cycle. What kind of cycle are you PCTing from?
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A cruise. 14 weeks. My nuts Re feeling good rightnow though
 
jiu jitsu said:
A cruise. 14 weeks. My nuts Re feeling good rightnow though
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Personally, I'd order some Nolva from a reputable source. A good PCT is definitely something you'd want after a 14 week cycle.
 
Hyde said:
This is scary but great feedback. It means either that Torem can give visual sides (which I was unaware of) or shady RCs are packaging Clomid as Torem for more money.
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SHaDY RC’s. 😪
 
Renew1 said:
Personally, I'd order some Nolva from a reputable source. A good PCT is definitely something you'd want after a 14 week cycle.
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Just got my eyes checked. No retinal detachment. Dr said floaters are common and everyone complains. Also said my eyes are healthy as well as the optic nerve. Probably just being more attentive to my vision
 
jiu jitsu said:
Just got my eyes checked. No retinal detachment. Dr said floaters are common and everyone complains. Also said my eyes are healthy as well as the optic nerve. Probably just being more attentive to my vision
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I've had more floaters in my lifetime, not on gear, than on gear or SERMS.
 
jiu jitsu said:
Just got my eyes checked. No retinal detachment. Dr said floaters are common and everyone complains. Also said my eyes are healthy as well as the optic nerve. Probably just being more attentive to my vision
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Nice always good to just check, **** can get weird if you don’t know what you’re taking.
 
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