So there is a bit of a misunderstanding about the purpose of a doctor and steroids. I see this a lot on this and other forums. So I want to set the record straight.
The purpose of medical school/residency is to train and educate individuals to treat pathological diseases, syndromes, genetic disorders, etc. Going to the doctor to advise you on how to enhance your physique to super human levels is like looking for a high quality sushi at KFC, your barking up the wrong tree.
The purpose of being a doctor is to take care of the sick and dying, not to enhance the healthy to individual preference.
People don't go into medical school to learn how to help people run faster and get bigger, or maintain 7% bodyfat year round. That's not the purpose of a doctor. The doctor is there when you tear a pec under the bar, your aging father gets pneumonia, to operate on a strangulated hernia becoming ischemic, monitor the insulin requirements of a diabetic, deal a septic patient who is in shock…and the list goes on. I hope you notice a trend. Doctors treat pathology.
Furthermore, unless the regulations and classification of steroids changes, a doctor can get into serious trouble, and lose his license if he is telling his patients to take an substance like anadrol, with known toxicity to the liver(as well as cause hypertension, dyslipidemia, and a suppressed HPTA), not to treat a disease but to gain some size.
In other words, the doctor would be prescribing something that is doing harm, when one of the tenants of being a physician is Do No Harm(even if the patient is willing to pay the price for scondary gain). So basically they would be prescribing a controlled substance for the sake of recreational use...this is across the board illegal, unethical and a doctor will lose their license. Let me repeat, it is considered unethical to do so as a doctor
Testosterone, clomid, nolva, etc etc are used when there is a pathological conditions that the disease outweighs the side effects. If a patient is already healthy, with no disease, prescribing a drug that induces pathology goes against the purpose of being a doctor. Now, remember, I am talking about the purpose of medicine, not the examples we all know of the doctor who gives the 19yo HRT...or the doctor that prescribe 1000mg of test a week to the professional so and so. These are two difference conversations.
Now the reason why doctors prescribe toxic drugs with known side effects is because the disease is worse then the medications side effects. We all know this well, steroids have side effects(some mild, and some not so mild), and the purpose of these forums is to educate people to avoid many of the side effects, but at the end of the day, we all know there is a cost.
The purpose of these forums is not to treat diseases, but to take the normal and elevate it to supraphysiological levels despite the side effects at time.
A doctor can't advise a healthy, young man, to supress his HPTA, inducing what is known as secondary hypogonadism, for the purpose of athletic enhancement. That’s the opposite of what medicine is about (which is treat pathology, not induce it).
This is why the medical community does not receive training on how to safely use PEDs, because at the end of the day PEDs are meant to enhance not to treat pathology.
And the whole idea of “consult with your doctor before starting….” that's to remove liability, not an honest suggestion. Doctors are not training on the timing of leucine supplementation, or how rotating your macro’s affects your physique. They are learning about the dynamics of physiology in the healthy vs the sick. I mean...they will be lucky of they get a few hours of diet lectures, however they will be in the context of maintaining health or the effects of long term dietary abuse.
This doesn't mean there are NO doctors that know how to use PEDs, or how to diet properly, but this is the minorit. And I would be willing to wager this knowledge was gained AFTER residency, through personal research/experience, or a mix of both. It is possible to understand normal physiology so well, they may have suggestion on how to maximize certain aspect...but again, most doctors are concerned with your A1c, is that heart murmur suggestive of congestive heart failure, whether that broken bone needs surgical intervention....etc etc.
I hope this clarifies the misnomer of the stupid doctor that doesnt know about lifting protocols, or isnt up to date on the current research on mk667, or how stupid they are because they refuse prescribing some test even though such and such pubmed article says xyz.
The purpose of medical school/residency is to train and educate individuals to treat pathological diseases, syndromes, genetic disorders, etc. Going to the doctor to advise you on how to enhance your physique to super human levels is like looking for a high quality sushi at KFC, your barking up the wrong tree.
The purpose of being a doctor is to take care of the sick and dying, not to enhance the healthy to individual preference.
People don't go into medical school to learn how to help people run faster and get bigger, or maintain 7% bodyfat year round. That's not the purpose of a doctor. The doctor is there when you tear a pec under the bar, your aging father gets pneumonia, to operate on a strangulated hernia becoming ischemic, monitor the insulin requirements of a diabetic, deal a septic patient who is in shock…and the list goes on. I hope you notice a trend. Doctors treat pathology.
Furthermore, unless the regulations and classification of steroids changes, a doctor can get into serious trouble, and lose his license if he is telling his patients to take an substance like anadrol, with known toxicity to the liver(as well as cause hypertension, dyslipidemia, and a suppressed HPTA), not to treat a disease but to gain some size.
In other words, the doctor would be prescribing something that is doing harm, when one of the tenants of being a physician is Do No Harm(even if the patient is willing to pay the price for scondary gain). So basically they would be prescribing a controlled substance for the sake of recreational use...this is across the board illegal, unethical and a doctor will lose their license. Let me repeat, it is considered unethical to do so as a doctor
Testosterone, clomid, nolva, etc etc are used when there is a pathological conditions that the disease outweighs the side effects. If a patient is already healthy, with no disease, prescribing a drug that induces pathology goes against the purpose of being a doctor. Now, remember, I am talking about the purpose of medicine, not the examples we all know of the doctor who gives the 19yo HRT...or the doctor that prescribe 1000mg of test a week to the professional so and so. These are two difference conversations.
Now the reason why doctors prescribe toxic drugs with known side effects is because the disease is worse then the medications side effects. We all know this well, steroids have side effects(some mild, and some not so mild), and the purpose of these forums is to educate people to avoid many of the side effects, but at the end of the day, we all know there is a cost.
The purpose of these forums is not to treat diseases, but to take the normal and elevate it to supraphysiological levels despite the side effects at time.
A doctor can't advise a healthy, young man, to supress his HPTA, inducing what is known as secondary hypogonadism, for the purpose of athletic enhancement. That’s the opposite of what medicine is about (which is treat pathology, not induce it).
This is why the medical community does not receive training on how to safely use PEDs, because at the end of the day PEDs are meant to enhance not to treat pathology.
And the whole idea of “consult with your doctor before starting….” that's to remove liability, not an honest suggestion. Doctors are not training on the timing of leucine supplementation, or how rotating your macro’s affects your physique. They are learning about the dynamics of physiology in the healthy vs the sick. I mean...they will be lucky of they get a few hours of diet lectures, however they will be in the context of maintaining health or the effects of long term dietary abuse.
This doesn't mean there are NO doctors that know how to use PEDs, or how to diet properly, but this is the minorit. And I would be willing to wager this knowledge was gained AFTER residency, through personal research/experience, or a mix of both. It is possible to understand normal physiology so well, they may have suggestion on how to maximize certain aspect...but again, most doctors are concerned with your A1c, is that heart murmur suggestive of congestive heart failure, whether that broken bone needs surgical intervention....etc etc.
I hope this clarifies the misnomer of the stupid doctor that doesnt know about lifting protocols, or isnt up to date on the current research on mk667, or how stupid they are because they refuse prescribing some test even though such and such pubmed article says xyz.