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Do You Have A Band-Aid? KgTomCat's CUT Log

Cub said:
I say scrap all these nasty designer products! They will make you feel like arse.
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didn't you ask me about where to get the feraguno like a few days ago? :lol:
 
I might start the 11OXO tomorrow, just 3x a day...what does anyone think of me using the Novadex XT & Tribulus instead of 6OXO and Tribulus? does 6OXO serve a job nothing else can perform?
 
KgTomCat said:
I might start the 11OXO tomorrow, just 3x a day...what does anyone think of me using the Novadex XT & Tribulus instead of 6OXO and Tribulus? does 6OXO serve a job nothing else can perform?
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Damnit man... GMG already told you.

Trib and XT are both test boosters... no need to run both. XT has ATD for an AI however - much like oxo - just different compound... Use XT alone, or ox and trib... period.
 
Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
 
I am joining this. A tad confused on where you are going, but when you figure it out I am sure it is going to be a great combo.
 
GMG760 said:
Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
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Right, you can use it instead of 6oxo, but I don't think you'll need a separate test booster, especially since you're trying to save money.

From experience, XT is pretty strong. I loved it.
 
GMG760 said:
Actually XT is just an aromatase inhibitor. It really isn't like Trib, it is more like 6oxo. Use novedex XT instead of 6oxo if you want to.
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yes, T-Lake, Im trying to save money, I only have 7 caps of 6OXO left but a full bottle of XT. if XT and 6OXO are like the same thing then should I still do Trib?
 
I might start this tomorrow....I have everything (if its cool to use Novadex XT instead of 6OXO) the furaguno is in the mail BTW
 
KgTomCat said:
yes, T-Lake, Im trying to save money, I only have 7 caps of 6OXO left but a full bottle of XT. if XT and 6OXO are like the same thing then should I still do Trib?
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Oh, dude... definitely don't go out any BUY 6-oxo. Use the XT and Trib... might be a bit of overlap, but if you already have it - by all means.

Oh, and sub to my log you queer.
 
im starting the cycle today, just took Lipo6X...going to eat in about 30 min, then take 1 dose of 11OXO, Ill have 1 11OXO after my mid-day meal and dinner. Ill take my Lipo6X around 5. Might workout today too, not sure. and im thinking about this...
weeks 1-6: 11OXO-may raise dose
weeks 3-7: Furaguno-not sure abut dose yet
weeks 8-11: PCT (6OXO & Novadex XT)

macros for diet will be 3000-3500 cals, 200-300 g protein, 100-150 carbs, 15-30 g fat (depends on how low I go on carbs)
 
KgTomCat said:
im starting the cycle today, just took Lipo6X...going to eat in about 30 min, then take 1 dose of 11OXO, Ill have 1 11OXO after my mid-day meal and dinner. Ill take my Lipo6X around 5. Might workout today too, not sure. and im thinking about this...
weeks 1-6: 11OXO-may raise dose
weeks 3-7: Furaguno-not sure abut dose yet
weeks 8-11: PCT (6OXO & Novadex XT)

macros for diet will be 3000-3500 cals, 200-300 g protein, 100-150 carbs, 15-30 g fat (depends on how low I go on carbs)
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Macros look good, aside from the protein. You'll want that at at least 250 during a cut - not 200 on the low end.

By the way:
300g Protein = 1200 cal
150g Carbs = 600 cal
30g Fat = 270 cal

Total of 2070 calories... Did you sleep through math class in high school?
 
TimberLakers said:
Macros look good, aside from the protein. You'll want that at at least 250 during a cut - not 200 on the low end.

By the way:
300g Protein = 1200 cal
150g Carbs = 600 cal
30g Fat = 270 cal

Total of 2070 calories... Did you sleep through math class in high school?
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:damnit: haha OH T-Lake, you always get me. it seemed a little low, cant take me too many carbs, or can I? maybe more fat...
 
I don't really think 6oxo and ATD (novedex XT) should be ran together in PCT. i cant be bothered looking it up, TG would know the answer, but i think your libido wil be shot to pieces.
 
KgTomCat said:
I thought I was, opps, so then what do you suggest I do?

And my birthday is next weekend. Will be okay for me to have a few drinks?
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I could have sworn you were going to run either with the Trib, but since you had XT already - you chose that. I think I told you 7 or 8 times not to bother buying the 6oxo.

Drinking... :damnit: Yes, you actually can. But stick to 3 to 4 drinks, and drink a water in between. Its not going to help you, but its not going to kill you either.
 
TimberLakers said:
I could have sworn you were going to run either with the Trib, but since you had XT already - you chose that. I think I told you 7 or 8 times not to bother buying the 6oxo.

Drinking... :damnit: Yes, you actually can. But stick to 3 to 4 drinks, and drink a water in between. Its not going to help you, but its not going to kill you either.
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then ill stick to XT, I prob forgot and didn't mean to write it up as I would be taking both. I just do not know how to dose the XT because I haven't found anyone else taking or have I used it. Im going to try to not drink but Ill keep it to one or two :bruce2:
 
KgTomCat said:
then ill stick to XT, I prob forgot and didn't mean to write it up as I would be taking both. I just do not know how to dose the XT because I haven't found anyone else taking or have I used it. Im going to try to not drink but Ill keep it to one or two :bruce2:
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2 caps a night till the bottle is gone. :squareeyed:
 
Subbing in...Is it me or does KG seem to complicate sh/t too much? Russian said to run the 11OXO...I would deffinitely take his opinion to heart. Throw in the Recreate(2/2) and see where things go. Keep it simple KG...you are in school and don't need to complicate things. My 2 cents.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Subbing in...Is it me or does KG seem to complicate sh/t too much? Russian said to run the 11OXO...I would deffinitely take his opinion to heart. Throw in the Recreate(2/2) and see where things go. Keep it simple KG...you are in school and don't need to complicate things. My 2 cents.
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We've been here before too... He doesn't have 6oxo... He has XT... he has no money... I said to run the XT and it'll be just fine. oxo and trib would be fine too.

And yes, he complicates sh*t way too much. I can't believe we are still f*cking talking about this.
 
Just for the record, I think Tom should just be using one of these for his cut.

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Only thing is... He'd be like:
  • OMG WUT COLOR?
  • OMG WUT LENGTH?
  • OMG SHOULD IT HAVE BEARINGS?
  • OMG CAN I PLAY DOUBLE DUTCH?
  • OMG WHERE CAN I BUY ONE?
  • OMG HOW FAST SHOULD I JUMP?
  • OMG CAN I STILL EAT ICE CREAM?

:damnit:
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA! :toofunny:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TimberLakers again.
 
KgTomCat said:
then ill stick to XT, I prob forgot and didn't mean to write it up as I would be taking both. I just do not know how to dose the XT because I haven't found anyone else taking or have I used it. Im going to try to not drink but Ill keep it to one or two :bruce2:
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remember the XT is just ATD and some other stuff so if you want info serach for ATD....butyour not stacking, i thought you were hence my first comment.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Subbing in...Is it me or does KG seem to complicate sh/t too much?
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You have no idea!!!! You're in for a real treat watching the inner turmoil of tomcat's mental musings.
His ADD is at an all time high from what I'm reading.
Tom, get back on the meds. :toofunny:
 
OK TOM. DUDE. BUDDY.

One last time.

Dose the Feraguno at 99mg a day.

YOUR PCT SHOULD BE NOVEDEX XT AND TRIB.

NO MORE CHANGING YOUR MIND DAMN IT!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
:pat:
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You haven't been around for the real frustration from back in the hdrol run.

Tom, you are my dawg, but man I am surprised Timber hasn't reached through your computer screen and backhanded you a few times. :lol:

Best of luck on your cut homie.
 
hahahahahaha, thanks for the support, and who knows me...understands. The main factor causing me confusion is I dont know who to trust, so many smart people, so many opinions (T-Lake, T-God, GMG, Russian, etc..)but I will dose the XT 2 at night and some trib, and the Furaguno will be 99 ED...and the donuts are mine!!!
 
just curious, but when does anyone think the optimum timing to take the 11OXO is? right now Im doing 1 after my morning cardio, 1 post WO, and 1 before bed
 
grila jujitsu said:
correct me if i am wrong, but dont you need like 150-200mg of furaguno a day to see anything? that is what i have read!
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I dont know, ive read that 99 mg ED is sufficient, but ive ordered two bottles so i may go higher...and im bigger than the 'average' male haha
 
grila jujitsu said:
correct me if i am wrong, but dont you need like 150-200mg of furaguno a day to see anything? that is what i have read!
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That's for lean gains.

If he is cutting, it should help him keep some of his hard earned muscle.

Plus the furaza clones are ridiculously expensive to run that high... but yes, for a solo PH run, Furazadrol is almost underdosed by 50-75%. Still, I am curious to see what it does with the 11oxo and Lipo-6.

I won't be dosing my Feraguno higher than 99mg, but then again I am running 3 other anabolics... lol.
 
GMG760 said:
That's for lean gains.

If he is cutting, it should help him keep some of his hard earned muscle.

Plus the furaza clones are ridiculously expensive to run that high... but yes, for a solo PH run, Furazadrol is almost underdosed by 50-75%. Still, I am curious to see what it does with the 11oxo and Lipo-6.

I won't be dosing my Feraguno higher than 99mg, but then again I am running 3 other anabolics... lol.
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lets hope the furaza makes those receptors far more sensitive like it is suppose to!! then the other 3 anabolics will be even stronger!!
 
grila jujitsu said:
lets hope the furaza makes those receptors far more sensitive like it is suppose to!! then the other 3 anabolics will be even stronger!!
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If it really does that, this cycle should be f*cking scary.
 
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