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Do not stack Androseries products with any other orals.

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tuRkx said:
Actually I never made his statement until you guys brought it up. IMO its total bull**** marketing technique used to sell this product.Just like the bull**** "first by-pass liver".. LMAO :D :D :D

I dont need any points. Your product is prone to cause liver damage and thats that. You should start looking for a new job soon,dont you know that selling steroids is illegal and considered a felony? :) Goodbye PP. You shouldve learned a lesson from bodybuilding.com.
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WHAT A FKN IDIOT! (with due respect)

making fake claims about a company is a felony, you are a shame, if you keep taking steroids you will need a liver transplant... wait a second you have hep B D: ... good bye turks... ive learned a lesson at anabolicminds.... to keep an eye on my girlfriend (and what she does with another man) or id end up with hep b and blaming GF juice. IMO if you poped cialis instead of steroids, you wouldnt have hep b. just sayin
 
HereToStudy said:
You do realize this is DHEA right?

Since you are finally addressing my statements. Can you comment on how you plan to make this a legal issue, (as you threatened me in PM and now again in this thread), without addressing the fact that you were on Anavar, which, you know, just happens to be a fcking FELONY to possess?
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Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
 
KenTheEagle said:
WHAT A FKN IDIOT!

making fake claims about a company is a felony, you are a shame, if you keep taking steroids you will need a liver transplant... wait a second you have hep B D: ... good bye turks... ive learned a lesson at anabolicminds.... to keep an eye on my girlfriend (and what she does with another man) or id end up with hep b and blaming GF juice. IMO if you poped cialis instead of steroids, you wouldnt have hep b. just sayin
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Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage :D :D :D
 
tuRkx said:
Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
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Now you're claiming that they're spiked with illicit AAS...seriously, kid...just stop.
 
tuRkx said:
Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage :D :D :D
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It was your doctor that said it looked like you had Hepatitis B and that is transferred through blood and bodily fluids. Did you get new information from him that you aren't posting?
 
tuRkx said:
Why you mad bro? I dont have hep b you ****ing retard.


Fake claims? What fake claims? The fact that my liver is ****ed up ?

Totally a fake claim. Those 4 black pills surely had nothing to do with my liver damage. They magically pass through the liver without causing any damage :D :D :D
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This is what happened Einstein:

You took an effective and safe supplement (with tons of studies to back it up, and regulated by safe standards_ along with a METHYLATED steroid, a.k.a liver toxic (most likely from an underground lab, probably made at some punk sink with no knowledge in chemistry) only God knows what was in each tablet you sipped, probably even rat poison for more flavor :D.... you played poker with your health and now your liver is fkd up... YOU TOOK AN UGL STEROID!... and no i am not mad at the end of the game is your liver and not mine, i dont even know you... now heres a tip, you have 2 options:

if you already look like bart simpson (called icterisia) wich is yellowing of the skin due to liver toxicity, you have 2 choices:

go to the hospital ASAP and stop spreading stupid claims at the forum

or wait untill halloween so you can make a custume of your fav simpron character and you will save money on yellow paint.... take advantage of the situation, but that will be stupid, id choose number 1
 
tuRkx said:
Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
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Cigarettes and alcohol exist. And are legal. Point = invalid.
 
Rodja said:
Now you're claiming that they're spiked with illicit AAS...seriously, kid...just stop.
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Did you take the compound to the lab to get it tested? Do you really know what is in there? How do you know that AH does not have proviron in it?


yeah I thought so-You dont.. You read **** and believe it. Just like the problem with our society today. They watch the news and immediately they are %100 sure they are being told the truth ,

Coolazice said:
It was your doctor that said it looked like you had Hepatitis B and that is transferred through blood and bodily fluids. Did you get new information from him that you aren't posting?
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I got my blood drawn for the 3rd time on Wednesday. Its not %100 sure yet. They are doing further testing. I will know after this testing for sure. He said he'll call me within a week.

KenTheEagle said:
This is what happened Einstein:

You took an effective and safe supplement (with tons of studies to back it up, and regulated by safe standards_ along with a METHYLATED steroid, a.k.a liver toxic (most likely from an underground lab, probably made at some punk sink with no knowledge in chemistry) only God knows what was in each tablet you sipped, probably even rat poison for more flavor :D.... you played poker with your health and now your liver is fkd up... YOU TOOK AN UGL STEROID!... and no i am not mad at the end of the game is your liver and not mine, i dont even know you... now heres a tip, you have 2 options:

if you already look like bart simpson (called icterisia) wich is yellowing of the skin due to liver toxicity, you have 2 choices:

go to the hospital ASAP and stop spreading stupid claims at the forum

or wait untill halloween so you can make a custume of your fav simpron character and you will save money on yellow paint.... take advantage of the situation, but that will be stupid, id choose number 1
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Dude chill . Did you even read that whole thread?. Why do they say its safely stackable with any other steroid when Im being blamed here for stacking it with anavar ? Everyone knows var is most mild oral out there.

HereToStudy said:
Dude, no wonder your girl is messing around and passing you viruses. You have serious issues.
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Yea,the products your company makes caused these issues.
 
tuRkx said:
Did you take the compound to the lab to get it tested? Do you really know what is in there? How do you know that AH does not have proviron in it?
yeah I thought so-You dont.. You read **** and believe it. Just like the problem with our society today. They watch the news and immediately they are %100 sure they are being told the truth
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You seriously have no idea what the phrase "burden of proof" means, do you? You're the jackass making a claim, which could easily get you into legal trouble (irony...) with nothing to back up your claim. Also, PP is known to have stringent QC and are also cGMP. If you don't know what that is, then I suggest you look them up.
 
tuRkx said:
I got my blood drawn for the 3rd time on Wednesday. Its not %100 sure yet. They are doing further testing. I will know after this testing for sure. He said he'll call me within a week.
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Why are you fighting this so hard when you don't even know for a fact what is causing your liver issues? For all you know - you could be so far off base with your absurd claims. You don't even have a diagnosis yet, let alone one shred of proof.
 
tuRkx said:
Does it matter what I was on or what I took for the legal case? What matters is that there is a company out there selling "safe,non-toxic" sports enhancement supplements disguised as steroids.Which is totally illegal and considered a felony. It could cause great health dangers to many individuals. Including kids. Im sure no parent wants their kid buying a supplement online that shuts down his natural test production,shrinks his ball and makes his hair fall out.So the law will for sure do something about it. I make great money and would have problem having the funds to file such a suite against a company who most likely copies original oral steroids and uses them in their own formula.
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Do you really think you will look any less stupid in court than you do on either AM or PP's forum? Combined, your thread on PP and here at AM have gotten over 4500 views. How many people have agreed with your claim out of nearly 5000 people? None so far. You think you can go to court and get 12 jurors to agree with you when you can't even get 1 person out of thousands to agree with you? Sounds like the odds are in your favor.

Furthermore, do you think that a lawyer won't laugh you out of his office when he starts looking into the research himself? DHEA is not illegal to sell as a supplement, PP product are properly labeled including risks and side effects possible, and an age restriction is on the label. You can't expect to sue another company, who has gone out of their way to properly label and explain a product, for the poor results of your own actions.

If anything, you should be the one worried about being sued by PP for slander/libel for publicly spreading lies about the contents of PP's products, not to mention alleging criminal activity on their part. Seriously, you should be worried about the legal repurcussions of making such severe accussations.

Throughout all this, you show an extreme aversion to the truth; you are in denial as much as an alchoholic or meth user denies they need help. All you have is petty anger towards those who have been rational towards you. You may or may not be 24 years old, but you act like a 5 year old. Grow up, grow a pair if you still can, and take responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming other's for your idiocy.
 
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yeah i read the whole thread turkx... and you even talked about me (i am that Ippy guy). i agree with you, anavar is mild but i doubt you took a pharmaceutical grade, you took an underground lab anavar (atleast thats what i read)... when you take an underground lab you should know that most UGLs are not regulated so you can have an overdosed-underdosed, fake (even another compound), a mix with other chemicals, and the list goes on. you dont know if that anavar was made in a clean enviorment... but yet you took it, use your logic man.... you took an underground steroid, and you blame on a decent company with zero issues (besides your complain)... yet, you are not sure if you have hep b or anything like that, and before you got your results you start making fake claims?. why dont you blame on your anavar wich you dont even know if it was mislabeled (probably they put superdrol in it or rat poison, no one knows).

another note, this is not your first cycle, and by the way you talk, it seems you abused them in the past, so probably you were dragging liver problems without even knowing, and this undergroun and unclean änavar fkd you up.

we dont know if you are a heavy drinker or not.

you never mentioned whats your liver support supps anytime you run an oral cycle.

but you are here, waiting for the results to come, blaming a legit company, that i am pretty sure that if you were a lil bit more respectful, youd have more validation and they could actually help you (they tried to help you) but you keep this idiocy, and now everyone here thinks you are an idiot.

your post is so contradictory, you blame ALL ORALS, then you blame only on androhard, and then you mentioned hep B, i even wonder if you work for another company and you just want to bring this company down. be a man and act like an adult, you played the cards now pay the chips. just my .02 cents
 
How on Earth did I miss this awesome thread!?!

I don't know if I want to cry for the huge waste of time or laugh out loud at obnoxious interweb claims...

PP's products are sound. Their reps are some of the most consistent and courtious I've dealt with over the years.

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And the Hep B? That's not from orals, that all about body fluid.

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Wrap up the blood work with the good doctor and then try and figure things out before you go completely off the deep end. There may be more to come with the additional blood tests.
 
KenTheEagle said:
yeah i read the whole thread turkx... and you even talked about me (i am that Ippy guy). i agree with you, anavar is mild but i doubt you took a pharmaceutical grade, you took an underground lab anavar (atleast thats what i read)... when you take an underground lab you should know that most UGLs are not regulated so you can have an overdosed-underdosed, fake (even another compound), a mix with other chemicals, and the list goes on. you dont know if that anavar was made in a clean enviorment... but yet you took it, use your logic man.... you took an underground steroid, and you blame on a decent company with zero issues (besides your complain)... yet, you are not sure if you have hep b or anything like that, and before you got your results you start making fake claims?. why dont you blame on your anavar wich you dont even know if it was mislabeled (probably they put superdrol in it or rat poison, no one knows).

another note, this is not your first cycle, and by the way you talk, it seems you abused them in the past, so probably you were dragging liver problems without even knowing, and this undergroun and unclean änavar fkd you up.

we dont know if you are a heavy drinker or not.

you never mentioned whats your liver support supps anytime you run an oral cycle.

but you are here, waiting for the results to come, blaming a legit company, that i am pretty sure that if you were a lil bit more respectful, youd have more validation and they could actually help you (they tried to help you) but you keep this idiocy, and now everyone here thinks you are an idiot.

your post is so contradictory, you blame ALL ORALS, then you blame only on androhard, and then you mentioned hep B, i even wonder if you work for another company and you just want to bring this company down. be a man and act like an adult, you played the cards now pay the chips. just my .02 cents
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Its funny most of you are attacking the anavar. Who cares what was in there.It couldve been winny or epi.Ive done both before.Its not like you guys dont buy from "UGLs" and stack it with PP products. Most of you are so ****ing delusional and buy orals and stack them back to back. Thats why I came to warn you guys.It could happen to anyone. Everyone is a freakin juicehead here and have self image issues. They read and read about roids. When a guy comes around the corner attacking the supplement-telling people to stay away from it I get alot of negativity. You know why? because most of you are ****ing stubborn.

I came here for a reason.

1.Dont stack ANY androseries with any OTHER orals.
2. Dont take overpriced designer steroids that harm your liver.
3. Stick to the real thing if you want to get big.
4. Most people use orals thinking it will "cut" them or give them a "dry" look. In reality,no one gives a **** about how you look. Unless you compete stay away from it.Use it on your own risk.


saludable24 said:
Do you really think you will look any less stupid in court than you do on either AM or PP's forum? Combined, your thread on PP and here at AM have gotten over 4500 views. How many people have agreed with your claim out of nearly 5000 people? None so far. You think you can go to court and get 12 jurors to agree with you when you can't even get 1 person out of thousands to agree with you? Sounds like the odds are in your favor.

Furthermore, do you think that a lawyer won't laugh you out of his office when he starts looking into the research himself? DHEA is not illegal to sell as a supplement, PP product are properly labeled including risks and side effects possible, and an age restriction is on the label. You can't expect to sue another company, who has gone out of their way to properly label and explain a product, for the poor results of your own actions.

If anything, you should be the one worried about being sued by PP for slander/libel for publicly spreading lies about the contents of PP's products, not to mention alleging criminal activity on their part. Seriously, you should be worried about the legal repurcussions of making such severe accussations.

Throughout all this, you show an extreme aversion to the truth; you are in denial as much as an alchoholic or meth user denies they need help. All you have is petty anger towards those who have been rational towards you. You may or may not be 24 years old, but you act like a 5 year old. Grow up, grow a pair if you still can, and take responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming other's for your idiocy.
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:D @ at "DHEA" being safe supp. Its still a steroid retard. Whether if its hgh,test,dhea,isulin,cortisol.ITS A ****ING STEROID. Last time I checked they are illegal to sell. Look at what happened to bodybuilding.com.




Coolazice said:
Why are you fighting this so hard when you don't even know for a fact what is causing your liver issues? For all you know - you could be so far off base with your absurd claims. You don't even have a diagnosis yet, let alone one shred of proof.
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My poor? stack AH+other orals=****ed up liver. Last time I checked-they advise you to stack their supps.

Rodja said:
You seriously have no idea what the phrase "burden of proof" means, do you? You're the jackass making a claim, which could easily get you into legal trouble (irony...) with nothing to back up your claim. Also, PP is known to have stringent QC and are also cGMP. If you don't know what that is, then I suggest you look them up.
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Legal selling steroids online? Oh ok :D :D :D :D
 
You already ran PP products with other orals before and were perfectly fine and you actually recommended the stack to someone else because you were so satisfied with it as H2S pointed out. You're calling us the delusional ones. It also doesn't matter if someone is selling "steroids" if the ingredients in them are LEGAL. It's EXACTLY the same as selling any other supplements until they're banned.
 
This reminds me of the time I was on a cycle of test...

It was a crazy night. I must have don't at least an 8 ball of white to myself just to follow it up with about 150mg of oxy. I went to the hospital because my heart stopped.

The doctor blamed the juice ;^)
 
tuRkx said:
:D @ at "DHEA" being safe supp. Its still a steroid retard. Whether if its hgh,test,dhea,isulin,cortisol.ITS A ****ING STEROID. Last time I checked they are illegal to sell. Look at what happened to bodybuilding.com....

Legal selling steroids online? Oh ok :D :D :D :D
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DHEA is not illegal to sell. You can run down to virtually any drugstore, grocery store or 'super store' and pick up some up without a prescription. It is a naturally occurring hormone in the body and deemed legal and safe to sell OTC to the general public.


tuRkx said:
My poor? stack AH+other orals=****ed up liver. Last time I checked-they advise you to stack their supps.
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This not even a coherent sentence.

Yes, they say that their AndroSeries are stackable with each other.... NOT ILLEGAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
 
tuRkx said:
Its funny most of you are attacking the anavar. Who cares what was in there.It couldve been winny or epi.Ive done both before.
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Who cares?..... I mean I would. For all we know you could have take 50 of superdrol.....and though you already done epi, 100 mg wouldn't be fun for long. You got anavar..... a very easily counterfeited drug. Literally impossible to get legit and certainly one of the most expensive out there. I may not know "personally" what AH contains, but on the same token ; you don't know what any of the stuff you took ( d bold epi winny tren ) is really that. Was your tren legit? This time around was the test base you took ACTUALLY test? Dude, just get your blood test back and try to recover ASAP. And spread your message on stacking orals is bad. Just don't be a d*** and blame AH only. Your 24 and have done a ton of orals before? When did you start? 20 18 5???....... most people on this board don't advise to start cycling until the mid 20s...... and if you started at say 20 or 21..... you ran so many cycles that your body just gave up. If you ran cycles rather young, you simiply f******* up your body while you are still growing. Speedy recovery nonetheless.
 
Coolazice said:
DHEA is not illegal to sell. You can run down to virtually any drugstore, grocery store or 'super store' and pick up some up without a prescription. It is a naturally occurring hormone in the body and deemed legal and safe to sell OTC to the general public.




This not even a coherent sentence.

Yes, they say that their AndroSeries are stackable with each other.... NOT ILLEGAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS.
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Took the words right out of my mouth; couldn't have said it better. DHEA is not illegal, he shows his stupidity more and more each day. Funny how noone believes a word he posts, yet he keeps heading down the same dirrection farther and farther each post.

This really is hilarious and sad to watch all at the same time. Funny how noone believes a word he posts, yet he keeps heading down the same path in the same direction farther and farther each post and keeps wondering why we don't accept his falacious reasoning as fact. Sad that someone is so willfully stupid, but funny as heck to watch an idiot dig the hole he is standing in even deeper with each comment he makes. Comedy like this just cannot be made up; it only happens in real life.

Though doubtful, I hope he is competent enough to understand a cease and decist court order for his slander/libel and false accusations of criminal conduct when someone serves him with one, otherwise it could get even funnier.
 
He has no clue about the interaction with the CYP enzyme, keeps calling andro series Oral's as though they are methylated, and I doubt he understands what DHEA is or what stuff being DHSEA compliant means either. DO SOME RESEARCH, YOUR IGNORANCE AND LACK OF REASONABLE THOUGHT ARE SHOWING!
 
This guy has the same mentality towards Androhard as the people in Salem Mass. who killed women in the Salem Witch Trials did towards women there. If she floats in the water when we throw her in, she is a witch and must be killed! If she sinks... Oh well, she's dead and now can't become a witch! If she doesn't get burned by fire she is a witch! If she does burn, the Devil's power could not save the witch! Look, a mole, she must be a witch! I used Androhard; it must be the witch!

Serious issues with accepting responsibility as well. Keeps projecting anything and everything bad onto PP and Androhard, except they never cause his problems.

Projects Androhard does not contain what the label claims, but used some supposed "anavar" from a "source".

Projects Androhard hurt his liver, not the liver toxic "anavar" he used.

Projects PP made him use it in his stack because they advocate stacking, despite the fact that nowhere does PP recomend using their products along with illegal substances. He decided to stack the substances together; noone made him do so.

People who cannot accept responsibility for their own actions and project them onto others are not only egotistical, but also very insecure. Only extremely egotistical, narcicistic, and insecure people keep trying to convince others who disagree with them about why they really are right, because if others don't agree, then that somehow reflects poorly on them and their fragile ego. They honestly cannot stand such a thnig happening because it hurts them too much inside. Unfortunately, its not our opinions that make him look bad, but his very own words. Doesn't he have something better to do with his life, like fixing his liver, than look stupid in front of the rest of the world? The answer is no, because his fragile ego cannot take the rejection, even in an anonymous world online. Professional psychological help may be the only thing that can help someone at this point who has gone so far down his own rabbit hole that it makes sense to him that it is better down there than the real world. Serious delusion and detachment from reality are dangers for those types of people. Most schizophrenia starts before 30 years of age...

"The truth shall set you free."
 
To summarize, in short sentences for your brain to absorb:

- the Androseries say to stack with each other, not illegal steroids.

- DHEA is sold at Walgreens and CVS, please threaten them too.

- you say not to waste money on expensive products...BUT YOU TOOK ANAVAR YOU FU*KIN RETARD, the most expensive oral.

- your anavar was probably UGL, therefore likely not pure or even anavar.

- you've taken way too many cycle for your age. You say everyone here is obsessed with roids and cares too much about their looks, yet you've done a handful of cycles.

- you can also be counter-sued for defamation or libel, were you to even get this to a court. And something tells me that PP has a lot more capital to make your life a living hell if they chose to.

-burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused.

- you contradict yourself nonstop

- You went full retard, never go full retard...

I wish you luck with your new friend, hepatitis
 
jamesm11 said:
To summarize:

- the Androseries say to stack with each other, not illegal steroids.

- DHEA is sold at Walgreens and CVS, please threaten them too.

- you say not to waste money on expensive products...BUT YOU TOOK ANAVAR YOU FU*KIN RETARD, the most expensive oral.

- your anavar was probably UGL, therefore likely not pure or even anavar.

- you've taken way too many cycle for your age.

- you can also be counter-sued for defamation or libel, were you to even get this to a court. And something tells me that PP has a lot more capital to make your life a living hell if they chose to.

- You went full retard, never go full retard...

I wish you luck with your new friend, hepatitis
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CHECKMATE!
 
KenTheEagle said:
CHECKMATE!
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IMO, checkmate came in the thread over @PP with HTS's post (if not sooner). Yet, he still decided to come here and try to 'convince' another group of people that he was some kind of victim. I guess he was hoping the guys on here would be less intelligent than the guys on PP's forum.... yeah, whatever!

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Really? Are you upset that I broke a rule? We will vote to ban me at once! Invalid Link Removed

Please don't threaten to 'get personal' with me. You couldn't hurt my feelings over the internet if you tried. My ego is bulletproof, unfortunately, not the same can be said for your liver.

You are free to continue to blame Androhard. Lets look at the facts:

1. You used a methylated steroid.
2. Methylated steroids cause stress to the liver.
3. You utilized a UGL for your source.
4. Most UGLs substitute powders to save money.
5. Most UGLs order powder from China and do not run quality control tests.
5.5 Most UGLs do not utilize accurate measuring devices
6. Var is one of the most faked steroids available on the market.
7. Androhard contains two hormones, both of which are non-liver toxic.
8. Androhard contains exactly what is on the label, as testing is performed at multiple stages of the manufacturing process.
9. We have seen literally 100s of postitive reports concerning user's bloodwork after an Andro Cycle.
10. You might have heard 1 or 2 positive reports on your UGL, if that.
11. Your doctor suspects it is Hepatitis B. This thread should be a warning about girlfriends that make their rounds.
12. You demand bloodwork, yet I told you users have posted them across numerous boards. Had I suffered liver damage from a product, and wanted to gather information, I wouldn't be a lazy f#ck and would spend 10 minutes searching for them.
13. Other members have pointed out that there is information available to the public, my guess is you didn't pursue them.
14. You make accusations about bloodwork not being presented, yet we have no seen yours.
15. You claim to have a failing liver, yet 'missed' your follow up appointment. Either you are lieing, or you really are a moron.
16. You were aware of the risks of taking a methylated steroid, yet you took it anyway.
17. 90% of the guys in this thread have run andro products, none have reported ill effects.
18. I would venture to guess 40% of users stack with a methyl, none have reported ill effects.
 
Coolazice said:
IMO, checkmate came in the thread over @PP with HTS's post (if not sooner). Yet, he still decided to come here and try to 'convince' another group of people that he was some kind of victim. I guess he was hoping the guys on here would be less intelligent than the guys on PP's forum.... yeah, whatever!

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Really? Are you upset that I broke a rule? We will vote to ban me at once! Invalid Link Removed

Please don't threaten to 'get personal' with me. You couldn't hurt my feelings over the internet if you tried. My ego is bulletproof, unfortunately, not the same can be said for your liver.

You are free to continue to blame Androhard. Lets look at the facts:

1. You used a methylated steroid.
2. Methylated steroids cause stress to the liver.
3. You utilized a UGL for your source.
4. Most UGLs substitute powders to save money.
5. Most UGLs order powder from China and do not run quality control tests.
5.5 Most UGLs do not utilize accurate measuring devices
6. Var is one of the most faked steroids available on the market.
7. Androhard contains two hormones, both of which are non-liver toxic.
8. Androhard contains exactly what is on the label, as testing is performed at multiple stages of the manufacturing process.
9. We have seen literally 100s of postitive reports concerning user's bloodwork after an Andro Cycle.
10. You might have heard 1 or 2 positive reports on your UGL, if that.
11. Your doctor suspects it is Hepatitis B. This thread should be a warning about girlfriends that make their rounds.
12. You demand bloodwork, yet I told you users have posted them across numerous boards. Had I suffered liver damage from a product, and wanted to gather information, I wouldn't be a lazy f#ck and would spend 10 minutes searching for them.
13. Other members have pointed out that there is information available to the public, my guess is you didn't pursue them.
14. You make accusations about bloodwork not being presented, yet we have no seen yours.
15. You claim to have a failing liver, yet 'missed' your follow up appointment. Either you are lieing, or you really are a moron.
16. You were aware of the risks of taking a methylated steroid, yet you took it anyway.
17. 90% of the guys in this thread have run andro products, none have reported ill effects.
18. I would venture to guess 40% of users stack with a methyl, none have reported ill effects.
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LOL yeah that was checkmate and a rape with a condom full of spikes at the same time
 
I don't get it.

I have beat the absolute sh!t out of my liver and I'm fine.

Seriously like I've done more stupid cycles than probably anyone on this board. Not once have I had any issues.
 
Ultimately, it comes down to an adult not wanting to take responsibility for his decisions and looking to place the blame somewhere else. It's what kids do when they get in trouble.

Never done pp products, never been on their board. But if you owned it, and said you screwed up somehow, and you were working with a doctor to figure it out, people might have taken it more seriously. But looking to place blame and unwillingness to take responsibility is one of the major problems in society today.
 
High Levels of Creatinine in your body:

Symptoms: Generalized
With increasing creatinine levels, some possible signs may include a low-grade fever, fatigue, lethargy or a generalized sense of malaise. Loss of appetite and changes in weight may be identified. Dehydration may be present as well as headache complaints, and shortness of breath or problems with breathing. Also, a change in mental state may be noticed, for example, the individual may appear confused or disoriented.

Seems pretty likely, hahaha
 
schwellington said:
I don't get it.

I have beat the absolute sh!t out of my liver and I'm fine.

Seriously like I've done more stupid cycles than probably anyone on this board. Not once have I had any issues.
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But you haven't done a cycle of Hepatitis B........
 
Hepatitis B stack... yoked liver for life.

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things you must do if you plan to use AAS,
first read, you must know what you are using, the possible sides and what you need to combat them if the worst happens
second bloods, you should always do blood before any cycle to if you have before bloods and you get side you can combat sides easier if they occur. for example, I did blood 2 weeks in and was able to see my AI was bunk and made adjustments to combat gyno.
Third ask questions, if you dont know what you are doing ask some question, yes you may get laughed at but its a learning curve and we all been there.


If you followed these basics you would not be posting this thread, the failure is on your end to research
 
Now that you mention it, something funny about that androhard... Did 8 weeks at 6 caps a day, pct'd, felt off; fever, chills night sweats. Went to the doctor and bam, Full Blown AIDS. It's pretty obvious these products are unsafe and cause viral diseases.
 
etnukekav said:
Now that you mention it, something funny about that androhard... Did 8 weeks at 6 caps a day, pct'd, felt off; fever, chills night sweats. Went to the doctor and bam, Full Blown AIDS. It's pretty obvious these products are unsafe and cause venereal diseases.
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Fixed it for ya
 
Well if this guys liver is shutting down, he is gonna have a little eentsy problems soon-> buildup of serum ammonia. Just like long term drinkers and the cirrhosis-induced psychosis, this guy is headed for crazytown as his ammonia increases in his bloodstream. Turks, do yourself a favor, get the **** off the internet and to a hospital. Oh, and if your breath smells like a combo of rotting fruit and windex, you may have waited too long.

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sae2110 said:
Well if this guys liver is shutting down, he is gonna have a little eentsy problems soon-> buildup of serum ammonia. Just like long term drinkers and the cirrhosis-induced psychosis, this guy is headed for crazytown as his ammonia increases in his bloodstream. Turks, do yourself a favor, get the **** off the internet and to a hospital. Oh, and if your breath smells like a combo of rotting fruit and windex, you may have waited too long.

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Good point on the medical front. Also I like that your avatar is Dr. Cox and the OP name is Turk. Its too perfect.
 
ryansm said:
Wow this thread still going? How do we always end up with the epic troll threads...
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Sig: PP rep


Figures coming from a pp accusing me of trolling to get this thread closed too. Not gonna happen here.

Im not trolling retard.Your products are liver toxic.

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tuRkx said:
Sig: PP rep


Figures coming from a pp accusing me of trolling to get this thread closed too. Not gonna happen here.

Im not trolling retard.Your products are liver toxic.

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Then why didn't you have any issues when you ran AndroHard and Epistane together???
 
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